The introduction of Charlie being a robot was probably the worst thing for the theorizing community because now no human can exist without being a fucking robot 🙂
@@Wizardjones69 Baby (the animatronic) that was originally a Charlie bot, is a robot representing adult Charlie. Not even mentioning the fact they're fucking fictional.
Title sums it up real nice. MatPat really could NOT go through one video without talking about robot kids. 😭 His only evidence was a prop that wasn't even used in the movie!
To be honest, I feel like Mat doesn’t actually believe that Garret is gonna be a robot, he genuinely thinks it’s gonna be a puppet, but he only put that at the end just to piss you off.
@@galaxyrendtbf I don't think it's that uncommon for a kid to not really know or care about what their parent does for work, at least I didn't aside from vague things
Matpat just really likes Gregbot for some reason is it genuine? Is it Spite? Or is it just Matpat losing their sanity from talking about Fnaf for nearly half of his adult life as a job? We will Never know why
honestly i think him and fhunaff meting just made him start taking even bigger leaps because when they met is when mat started to double down on gregbot
I think at this point he just makes it for the views. His comments in all his theories are pogging and telling him how smart he is. The fandom has become too young-centered.
@@KumihoMahao While 5 year olds are certainly a problem for this community I don't think it's the reason. He genuinely likes Fnaf, I just think he legitimately likes Gregbot so much he will never admit it was wrong its like Mario is mental v2. To be fair it's lore for the spooky bear game so I don't really care, it's a annoying and certainly a lazy and overused conclusion but it's not offensive.
@@maxwellattacks6645 Another one is that he has to come up with outlandish theories now that there are many more theorists other than him, so he just throws shit at the board for content's sake.
Re: what you said about VanessaBot not making sense with her in the hospital, this is even a minor implied thing in the novels. Characters keep bugging Charlie to go to the hospital for her wounds, but Jen has raised her to be super self-dependent and resistant to that, presumably because human medical equipment would indeed not work for a robot no matter how much fake blood they have.
@@loganisanerd5566i think i have a explanation: scott just planned silver eyes to be one story without sequels, but the book made so much money that it made the twisted and the fourth closet (i hate tto and tfc, i just like silver eyes)
@@Wizardjones69 I agree, Scott has stated many times he doesn't really plan anything in advance. Honestly the movie becoming a trilogy might be the only time he's ever known he was definitely setting out to make a story of a specific length.
@@Wizardjones69my understanding of the publishing industry (which I’m sadly connected to at a non-author level, but the back end) is that Scott wanted to craft/write _The Silver Eyes_ , and because trilogies in “children’s media” (which this was, iirc, marketed as and published by Scholastic) have been a rage for… oh golly, at _least_ 20 years, if not closer to 25 or 30, when _The Silver Eyes_ did _remotely_ well, they pushed for the two other books. This is also why a lot of people have a rightful issue with TTO and TFC: character development had to be walked back, and some characters just got kicked back to their pre end of TSE state. Even the fact that I can’t _actually_ remember why Charlie was worrying her friends with the smooth plastic robot faces who mimic each other (I’d also guess this was a concept idea for what we have now in the Mimic1 program story line) and herself being more cold and distant and nearly robotic… and I can’t remember why/if Charlie was worried being too much like Afton, since she was basically using blank plastic masks that could articulate and Henry had always made soft plush shells for the endos, I only vaguely remember it, because it made me wonder why Charlie’s actions were so worrisome. She wasn’t an Afton. Everyone knew Henry was her dad. Why were people (and I swear even Charlie herself) so concerned she was “becoming” like Afton? This isn’t nature vs nurture. Afton was not involved in Charlie’s actual robotic-existence. And if memory serves, Henry didn’t make the Funtime equivalent animatronics in TSE that are the bad guys, if memory serves. I legitimately, based on the character development that got yeeted out of existence, and _absolute_ wacky nonsense of an underground Pizzeria that getting to the other part of Pizzeria Simulator’s Freddy’s shows in SB: Ruin, (especially that cave bit, it’s one-to-one for the first trilogy’s underground bit in my memory ((aka: I haven’t bothered to actually compare screenshots and prose but at the time of Ruin, I couldn’t help but feel like it came slightly less out of left field since the Pizza Plex is built on FNAF6, than the absolute whiplash inducing introduction of it in, I believe, _The Fourth Closet_ ). And because I know trilogies are still _very_ popular with publishers of kids media, I think the novellas/short stories in Fazbear Frights and Tales from the Pizzaplex are a rebuttal to not lock anyone down to either actually plotting a trilogy again, or trying to write a one off and getting tied into an unplanned extension of a story that had already ended. I _believe_ Scott and Co went into the movie(s) knowing that trilogies/sequels are just how movies operate currently so the first _movie_ is actively set up to be the first of three. No need to walk back character development. No need to come up with a new plot and then justify it via a game’s DLC 8 years later. Just “this is gonna be three movies, let’s write the first one as an intro for new fans and old fans alike, and know that this will not be a one off movie.” Even if it hadn’t made bank to secure those two other films. Which means, none of us will have the same Bad Time with the movie being a trilogy that a lot of people (rightfully have) with TTO and TFC from the perspective of TSE being a cohesive story, with most/all ends tied up and then forced into two more stories by the Publisher via the main Editor/contact basically voluntelling Scott and co-writer to make two more books out of actual thin air, and connect them to TSE.
29:33 How do people think the Funtimes are springlocks? We literally see their blueprints, and there are none! Nor is there any room for a person, outsde of the child tanks! And Baby specifies that the springlock we do see in game is a prop from Pizza World, likely the one responsible for "multiple, simultaneous springlock failures at the sister location" mentioned in fnaf3.
i do agree that it makes no sense and is definitly wrong, but i think the idea comes from a mix of the jester springlock suit in tales (has different colours btw, looks nothing like baby), the pose that baby has in parts and service (it is similar to golden freddy pose, but theres a very obvious ingame reason, which is that baby's endo is in ennard and the suit is mostly empty because its to trick mike) and smth about the mimic being related to baby in some way which already doesnt make much sense on its own
I was literally going through the theory with a very growing sense of “Yes! This all makes sense! It’s what I’ve been thinking! Garret is the puppet. It all lines up, the voice at the end, the music box, the timeline, the connections to the family, yes!” But no… “Garret will be a robot child running around.” Did you forget what you JUST said??? Did they record up until the ending, leave, and come back to it a week later while sleep deprived??
I dont… It could fit, but at that point it’s just trying to draw connections with the oldest of material to try and find a way where it could work narratively after it’s been done already in the silver eyes books.
I get the feeling that MatPat is so desperate to prove that robot kid isn’t a book only concept, that he’s now trying to prove that it will be in the movies.
If anyone's a robot according to similarities with the novels, its Abby! The parents made a robot to make up for the lost child, offed themselves, and another relative is left raising them. Not that I want that, but I feel like Mat should havd a bettet grasp of the robot story by now.
While I was watching that video about MatPat started talking about that, my immediate first thought was “It looks like we need another robot kid intervention”
Completely agree on Mike Schmidt (Movie) being a mix of Michael Afton, Charlie (Books), and his own character. Mike Schimdt's obsessive drive to find Garrett really reminded me of Charlie's obsessive drive to find Sammy in the Twisted Ones. I think Garrett isn't a false memory though because there was a deleted scene (from Entom's source) where Garrett's spirit would show up before the Yellow Rabbit appeared. Deleted scene, but there seems to be some intent that Garrett is a spirit since that was filmed, but cut in editing.
Haven't finished yet, but hearing your pure exasperation with Matt when he brought up robot kids again was hilarious. I completely agree with the thought that the "humanlike endoskeleton" is just an early design for Springtrap. Nooo, not another robot kid. I mean seriously, robot Garrett!? THere is literally no connection to anything, how does he come up with this stuff? Him and his team is on something STRONG for it to have been lasting so long, and i want to know whatever the fuck it is. Holy shit.
We DEMAND explanation for all this bullsh*t happening for almost two years by now since the release of Security Breach when he first began coming up with this nonsense!
I’m convinced he sees anyone with a striped shirt ( Greg) or a connection to BV ( Garrett) and starts calling them a robot or just every Afton ( that’s not hyperbole)
MatPat is OBSESSED with the robot kids theory, no matter how many times he is proven wrong he refuses to accept it. Hes never been able to admit when hes wrong.
When has he been wrong though? Don't get me wrong, I hate Gerret being a robot just as much as the next guy, but I do think that when it comes to Gregory, it could make sense. Do you actually have any evidence that disproves Gregory being a robot?
@@fnafboy0555GregBot doesn’t have many evidence and Tales from the pizzaplex doesn’t support it aswell. The problem is the lack of evidence for he being a robot.
@@juliabp6057 then how do explain Gregory’s vision being glitchy when he’s near Vanny? GF (Glamrock Freddy) only sees Vanny once he changes his eyes which suggests that Gregory’s eyes are fundamentally different from GF's. This could also mean that Gregory is a part of the Glichtrap virus in some way.
@@juliabp6057 Although there hasn't been any direct evidence for the Gregbot theory, there have been a lot of fnaf books in recent times about robot children (such as To Be Beautiful). I’m not saying that Gregbot is bullet proof, but there certainly is a few chips in it’s favor.
It was mentioned in one of dawko’s Ryan’s baz’s or razz’s videos visiting the set that some of the props are Easter eggs to Jim Henson shop’s work…so there’s a chance the human animatronic could be one of those.
That is fair, but I dont think thats a good enough reason to write it off unless its made pretty explicit that is isnt related and is just dressing. Im open to it being either or. Were just gonna have to wait and see.
The theory is honestly pretty good and based in reality besides the robot kid nonsense, the stuff about the town being called Afton is actually pretty cool, and I actually missed the "Come Find Me" at the end of the film, which is a neat callback to "SAVE THEM". I kinda feel like that was just thrown in, like at the end, because other than "this is kinda like the silver eyes" there is no plot reason for Garret to be a robot, like, imagine Mike's dad coming back and saying, "Mike, your brother's a robot." ... Like ok? Lol, it doesn't change anything about their relationship, Mike just wants closure, and Garrett being a robot is just kinda a random addon like saying his middle name is actually Freddy or something.
On "how did William know Mike had a brother" point I would like to propose that William Afton looked in the rearview mirror and noticed a kid watching him get away. This would also give him motivation to offer Mike a job he otherwise wasn't interested in giving Mike. He was worried Mike might remember him from all those years ago. William could've just asked Garret his last name. Either through coercion or duress, so he knew which families to avoid. Even if that didn't happen. I don't believe for a second there weren't at least missing posters going up in the area. And Afton would definitely see those and recognize Garret. I would also like to voice the opinion that the kidnapping didn't happen in Nebraska. Mike got the picture cause the trees looked similar to the park in his memories, it's more than possible the park they were at just had a generic treeline like in the poster. Especially since they never say he was kidnapped in Nebraska and Mike never answers Vanessa's question about "why Nebraska". This would also explain why William would grab this kid (assuming he's not Henry's) and he and Mike would just so happen to meet each other again almost 20 years later.
I think we're all kind of forgetting eith that "Movie 2 will probably follow along with Game 2" statement is that it implies movie 2 could very well be a prequel where we will see the MCI maybe Garret being put into the puppet. And potentially confirming Mikes dad as having worked at Freddy's. It also gives them a chance to bring William back right now without instantly having the springtrap reveal which they could save for the third movie.
I could see Mike's dad being an insert to represent Henry, but there are basically zero reasons why there should be robot kids in the movie. Like maybe Mike's Dad kept his kids away from Freddy's. How many times have your own parents taken you to work when you were little?
Counterpoint, how many people who work at Disneyland bring their families there using their discount? Plus, small town restaurants like that often act as a daycare for employees sometimes, sit the kids up in a booth while you wait tables etc.
Mat changing his mind about things is something he said a long time ago, he rather find truth than be right, he rather make mistakes and then change angle than refuse to drop a theory... Is not only something he said in a theory as a joke but something he talked about seriously in his "couch mode" so changing from who stuffed the animatronics, is not making his mind but what fits better to him as time moves on
The thing with Vanessa is that her stab wound isn’t bloodless. When Mike and Abby carry Vanessa out of the pizzeria after Afton gets springlocked you can literally see that her shirt is covered in blood right where she was stabbed. Also robot people can bleed in the books too so even if it was a bloodless stab it still wouldn’t really mean she’s a robot.
Is he really? I always thought he only said WillStuff, but used the Puppet as a way to give those stuffed kids the power to fully possess the animatronics.
I don't think he really leaned into "PuppetStuff" except maybe _very_ early into FNaF 2. It seems to me like "giving life", in his mind, isn't the Puppet stuffing them, but it allowing them to properly inhabit their suits, or in some other way stabilizing the spirits.
Something important people never mention when they try to make the connection between Mike's dad and the guy in the tape: That's not a background actor or anything, that's a guy who helped make the costumes for the animatronics used on the movie. It's a cameo for HIM, not some lore thing or "Let's use an actor who looks like Mike's dad"
The technician in the background of the tape is a different actor and actually a cameo for Robert Bennett who was one of the main people behind the animatronics for the movie
@@siresquawksScott himself, even though he publishes more books and more games are coming out, like many other authors and creators of franchises, sagas and series. Leave it a mystery and that's good because they want to keep it for us. To try to solve it using our own imagination, theory, ideas and come up with our own Head Canon. -------- We all know MatPat from Game theory and John from FuhNaff this two are mostly closer. But we also know Scott himself, even though he publishes more books and more games are coming out, like many other authors and creators of franchises, sagas and series. Leave it a mystery and that's good because they want to keep it for us. To try to solve it using our own imagination, theory, ideas and come up with our own Head Canon.
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You know Garrett being the Charlotte Emily in this world reminds me of the theories of the crying child being the marionette because the tears running down his cheeks and save him .
I really wanna see ur own take on the timeline, seems like everyone’s making timelines or guides rn and I’d love to see ur thoughts! Love the video, always nice to have another perspective 💯
Watching MatPat do FNAF theories and try to find ways to fit in robot kids is like watching a carpenter hammer his thumb hoping one day he'll hit a nail.
If I recall the humanoid robot is just another robot that the people who made the animatronics made for a completely separate project unrelated to fnaf
Yeah, it’s a pattern I see with most of Game/film theory’s video. For the grand part of the video the are mostly correct then in the last minute they have to do at least one stretched theory.
And then have him and his fanboys have an audacity saying after people having the righteous backlash: "BUt iT's jUsT a ThEoRy, dId yOu eVeR wAtCh tHe ViDeO???"
47:58 one guy behind me while I was watching the film wouldn't shut up about it since we see the guard before Mike going into the vents and he kept expecting Mangle to come out
If you watch movie easter egg videos, most of them will point to that robot and say that is just a references to the movie leaks from 2014-2015, and that the mechanic is one of the animatronics engineers of the jim henson company
iirc the jester costume in tales is stated to be pink and lime green. so it *cant* be baby, but if matpat thinks the jester costume is proof for baby being a springlock suit, it wouldnt be the first time he threw out a character description to fit his ideas (he did the same thing with coils the clown = puppet and stitchwraith = ennard) also did matpat just ignore the part of the behind the scenes vid where it was stated a lot of things in the room were just old creature shop props??? AND when mike and abby are taking vanessa out of the building, she very clearly has a lot of blood on her shirt :/
I can't believe matpat and fuhnaff continue to believe that fabric jester suit is in any way baby. It looks and acts nothing like the 7 foot tall red tutu wearing metal voodoo doll toddler with pigtails, helium tanks, and an ice cream maker. There's no room for a human, as Elizabeth proved!
if he really wanted to make the baby comparison he could have just said book elizabeth posses silver eyes baby and silver eyes ella is technically connected to baby that way
@@loganisanerd5566 I don't think they believe it's literally Baby, but because her design is based on a Jester it's easy to make the connection and it implies that Baby could potentially be a Springlock Suit, which could make some amount of sense because we know for a fact she was built prior to Springlock Suits being decommissioned Of course we don't know what exactly that might mean
Maybe the "Robot Kid" endo IS the Puppet. It absolutely makes sense that it is the close-up model for Spring/Scraptrap [just put the withered Spring Bonnie costume on it], but if you follow the fallacy of "they wouldn't show incomplete bits in a tour" [the only way I can see it argued that skull endo isn't the Spring/Scraptrap endo], then if you bang your head against the wall and squint, it is not impossible that it is the Puppet's Endo, possibly with bits of Garret? Not at all likely, but not impossible.
Can't it be both william and the puppet? So william killed the kid and placed them in the suits. But the kids aren't able to do anything. They just linger as spirits, but can't manipulate the suits. Then puppet comes along to help the spirits by teaching them how to use the suits. The puppet has the knowledge on how to.
But then how did the puppet learn to manipulate her suit? Or Elizabeth? Or hell, even Afton? If they can possess animatronics just fine without help then why would the MCI be any different?
@@qualitytimewithted5160 so, there is the way she died in tandem with the suit. The puppet was built to protect her and laid next to her as she died. Charlie was not stuffed like the rest of them. Also henry states charlie was also a helper. A good soul. The nature of who she was and the fact the animatronic was built to help her could be why she was able to control the suit so quickly and like in ucn “the others are like animals. I am fully aware”. Charlie’s death and haunting / inhabiting is just different than the rest.
Imagine if the FNaF movie timeline is an evil alternate universe where Henry became the serial killer and Steve Ragland is actually Henry Emily and Vanessa is Charlie.
I agree with Garrett puppet, but i dont think we have enough information about WHO Garrett is/was to create an arc for him. His only lines are airplane noises and from a scene where it's not REALLY him speaking. As of now, he has less character than the other nameless, voiceless ghosts because at least they play with Abby. All we know about Garrett is that he's Mike's younger brother, he likes airplanes, and he was kidnapped/killed by Afton.
I think people take "give gifts, give life" game too seriously. I never thought the puppet put the bodies in the suits. Vanessa also says William did it
ever people have probably asked but have you seen GiBi's Good Idea Bad Idea's 8 and a half hour vid on FNaF, I think it was really good. His timeline placement of FNaF 1 being in 1992 and FNaF 3 being in 2015 makes a lot a sense. he's also one of the few people who knows your channel exist. also isn't the guy working on the animatronics just a cameo from one of the guys from Jim Henson Productions also, also ad nauseam has been working for me to block ads.
It could also be one of Blumhouse's other animatronics. They out right stated they used some of the spare Animatronics from other movies they had for background dressing of parts and service. Hence several irrelevant animatronics. Not to mention we have other humanoid animatronics cas ein points Balloora. Probably butchered that name.
17:15 Give Gifts Give Life does not immediately equal Puppet Stuffed, which might be the logical difference here. "Giving life" could mean reminding them of who they are, in turn allowing them to possess the animatronics, "putting them back together" like in the novels. 27:10 Happiest Day? He's done so many theories and videos at this point that some concepts might have just blended together in his mind.
I think he's talking about happiest day but the way he presents it is weird. Like Mike personally freed the BV when he's more a piece in the domino chain that leads to it. While I know the community has made versions of GGGL that have the puppet playing some role other than stuffing them, Matpat has never to my knowledge had a version of GGGL where the puppet isn't stuffing the kids to give them life. He's had moments where he states William stuffs the kids, but he's never explained what the puppet did there if that's the case.
Btw at the end when mike is tahing vanessa out of the pizzeria you can clearly see a bloodstain on her sweater so... yeah average matpat mistake at this point
I don't think the FNAF movies are going to incorporate robot kids into the story. The concept is too outlandish for people who don't know FNAF lore. Murdered kids possessing animatronics after their corpes were stuffed inside? Sure, that's horror movie logic. But robots who pass off as realistic humans? That's stretching the audience's suspension of disbelief a bit much. Mat's theory that Garrett will turn out to be the Puppet is really solid, I don't know why he just derailed right at the end.
When did Mike release his brother's soul? Easy, it's when he karate chopped those wall tiles to input the hex code for purple backwards, duh. But in all seriousness, I have no idea what the scriptwriters were doing there.
26:30 He said that a few times, the most explicit time was during the 3rd part of the Ultimate Timeline, or second part of the Afton Era. Either way, it's during Happiest Day.
for 17:00 i think he believes in a mix of will stuffed and puppet stuffed. ie: william stuffed the kids in the suits and the puppet brought them to life inside the suit
44:42 I think your miss understand Mat. I think he is trying to say "If Henry is Garrets dad, Henry made a robot Garret, meanwhile the real Garret becomes the Puppet."
The thing about the "Human Endoskeleton" is that I'm 99% percent sure that's just something that the Jim Henson Creature Shop folks had laying around and used as Set Dressing. IIRC, they've admitted to using random stuff from their storage to put in the Parts and Service room in the movie as both easter eggs referencing the Creature Shop and to sell the Robot Workshop aesthetic. I don't even think it's SUPPOSED to be Springtrap or anything, I think it's just There, so for MatPat to be like "THIS ROBOT GUY THAT YOU NEVER SEE IN THE MOVIE ITSELF AND ONLY IN BTS FOOTAGE IS PROOF OF THIS" is extremely funny.
32:30 I’m pretty sure that the guy in the tape was confirmed to be one of the Jim Henson’s Creature Shop employees, who worked on the animatronic characters for the movie, so if they were to make him Mike’s dad it would mean he was played by two completely different people in one movie.
the one thing i dont get about mikes dad in the movie being henry is why doesnt mike seem to know anything about freddy's before he goes to work there 😭😭
I loved the theory, but the part about human robots is where it threw me off. While yes, the idea is interesting, it’s not the best to jump to this conclusion. We’re only getting 3 movies, so unless we’re somehow gonna get a mix of the first 3 FNAF games and a mix of the FNAF book trilogy, I don’t think that’s the case. I think we’re mainly gonna focus on the games itself, while borrowing some elements of the books. For all we know, the robot with human like teeth, human shaped head, and the arm could just be props for another movie, or is just an Easter egg. Hell, we had a Shadow Freddy suit Easter egg in the Fnaf game that Scott made, and we only see him when we see Max’s dead body inside a purple suit. I’m excited to see Shadow Bonnie in the next movie. Overall, I enjoyed Matpats theory on the FNAF movie, but like I said, the end is where Mat lost me.
You're the most based fnaf theorist. you don't have a biased or clingy view to something you come up with like Mat or some other big theorists, and I don't feel frustrated trying to pretend to get what I'm hearing
40:19 I'm sorry, but personally, that doesn't look like Springtrap either. It's not a springlock endo, and Afton's head wouldn't be infused with an endoskeleton head like this clearly is. Admittedly, if it is a robot kid, I think it would be a Henry built one and not, and Afton built one.
41:16 wasn't Afton in Spring Bonnie played by a suited actor (and I don't think there's a point in the film where we dee Afton at that point of decomposition)
@Sire Squawks 39:16 I SAID THE EXACT SAME THING! Seriously, Springtrap is practically set up at the end of the movie. I don't know why Mat is SOOO insist on robot kids every time.
just imagine if the movie is supposed to be a universe where the theories that are not canon go to, and Elizabeth being Vanessa is just meant to call out matpat's theory that they are the same
the humanoid animatronic was probably in the jim henson warehouse and used as set dressing like the gillions of other animatronics lying around. needless to say i dont think it has any bearing at all. throwing this in here too, personally, i think fnaf 2 is gonna be about worldbuilding and have the basic bones of twisted ones in overall structure. i think we're gonna get background on henry creating the fnaf 2 location to prevent murders, and William creating the sister location bunker for killing kids/experimentation.
You know... I kind of have to guess, if you can't even see it in the movie, is it really canon? It's almost like while we have the deleted scenes of Shak-Ti dying in Star Wars during Order 66, as with Legends continuity showed when that was still canon... it didn't happen, it wasn't in the movie and thus she was able to be at Felucia to fight Galen. So... is the "human" endoskeleton really a valid piece people can use if it's not actually in the film? I swear I remember Matpat saying he doesn't like to use cut content in video games to base theories off of. I think I remember him and other theorists straight up ignoring dialogue script files because "We don't actually know that info in game, only meta-wise do we know, not actually in-universe", so... I question the seeming double standard here of just "We'll ignore this stuff when it suits us, and we'll readily acknowledge and accept it when it suits us.".
esponding from 9:51 about will stuff. People are using this as evidence for it while still saying "they animatronics wouldn't Brutalize a kid like they were." and yet we see the animatronics (!!!Warning!!! Movie spoilers for any one who haven't seen it, this is the no return point. !!!Warning!!!) try and stuff Abby in a springlock suit just thought its an interesting cherry pick with both these combined we do have evidence for both stuffing possible as this will show the animatronics are indeed willing to stuff other children into suits and make them one of them. Edit: thinking about the humanoid robot, didn't William have a bot pretending to be scraptrap in "the forth closet?"
How has nobody accepted the obvious theory that William is Michael dad and the reason why they don't know eachother that well yet William recognizes him is a messy divorce, giving the killer at least a catalyst and why he kidnapped someone instead of just killing straight up
Matpat trying to NOT include robot kids in any FNAF theory (Impossible) In all seriousness, what's more likely: That the animatronic with realistic adult male skull and eye proportions and literal phalanx bones for fingers is a prototype Afton prop, or that it's a child robot?
Also that guy is not Mike’s dad it’s a Jim Henson’s employee who was the lead designer of the animatronics Edit: also By “FNAF 1” in every universe Afton knows
I do agree with the complaints made in the theory, Mat Pat does sometimes does make claims with no real evidence behind it. And why does MatPat always talks about robot kids in fnaf videos now?
You know when he started the talking about the endoskeleton I thought he was going to talk about the funtimes but then he brought up Robot people AGAIN and I was like "Oh ok so I can just ignore the last bit of the video"
NOT THE ROBOT KIDS THEORY!!!!!! All honestly: This is why I hate the books so much! Because it leads to thigs that are stretch or something! Sure....The movie did follow sort of close to the trilogy but it wasn't canon! Frights and Tales doesn't have Robot kids like he exactly said! Is it possible for there to be robot people in these games? Probably! But not everything leads to that! Matpat was so close with his theory until he brings up the robot theory all over again! It's like he can't let it go! I love his videos. But sometimes I just want to say: MATPAT!!!! LET IT GO!!!! Because as far I can tell....There's no signs of robot kids in the movie!
Mat needs another robot kid intervention. It genuinely seems like he won't be satisfied until he finds another robot kid somewhere. Other than that, good theory though.
Why would it be springtrap? It’d be one thing if the animatronic was out with the Ella robot and the shadow Freddy robot. But it isn’t. It’s on the set with and therefore it’s susceptible to being filmed and made canon. As soon as I saw that in dawko’s video I knew Mat would try to link it with robot kids. And I think that idea is stupid. But his theory isn’t unfounded
Some people say it was just an extra project the prop team was working on or something, like a spare animatronic from another film (though I don't know if this is correct). The fact that it doesn't appear to be used is a complicated factor. Also that isn't how canon works. If it isn't in the movie but was made that doesn't automatically make it still canon somehow. If it was cut it was cut.
@@siresquawksHello there As a someone who has born Long-term memory = episodic memory and a lot of emotionally empaty i was looking on everything from both sides like coin has it. Evil is not born, it is taught. Many fantasy, sci-fi, horror charakters even real life people. I started from year 2010 as master of lore and lover of the lore of many sagas, franchises series and universes. From books, comics, movies, shows, games and other projekts. I am known across the internet by many people as well as RU-vid&Twitch creators as someone who writes these messages as vouchers and suggestions for people who are interested in a given topic, saga,... and know little about it or are new to it and do not understand it. Still that is beauty of theorising, with original story bring something new and created your Head Canon. :wink: May the force be with you and may you lead the force. :raised_hand:
@@siresquawks Looks like another RU-vidr has a Goldfish Memory. Damn, this disease of Dumbs, Idiots and Hottentots was first among the gaming ones and now it's also spreading to the editorial RU-vidrs, but you're still just at the beginning, so please, you're not as good as the already changed individuals. ;) Sorry man. But someone who has a problem with schizophrenia since childhood and has learned to live with it under healthy controls. So I see things, events and the like more and more clearly than you. I literally saw your reaction to the UFT game theory and you literally don't remember what was literally in front of your face. Normally Asmogold and his memory is still in better shape than yours. I have no words, I understand that you are such a little fnaf troll, but you should think about yourself and what you are doing. ___________ With my Long-term memory = episodic memory and emotional empathy. It's so much my mind Fnaf,MC,LOR,... I started planning something for storage all lore/theory information in some a project. --------- Yeah fair enough. But still that is beauty of theorising, with original story bring something new and created your Head Canon. ;) May the force be with you and may you lead the force. ✋
