The idea that Phone Dude went from a guy that built a haunted house attraction making fun of Freddy’s past into someone who helps rebuild Fazbear Entertainment by making fun of Freddy’s past is probably the best use of a one off character having a role in the modern storyline
@@smt64productions40recently I came up with a random idea Freddy Bully is Phone Dude, there’s barely anything backing this up besides one comic strip in the Security Logbook with Foxy and Freddy talking to each other in the FNAF 3 office, which the connection only works if the FNaF 3 guard is Michael.
The idea of the books literally being in-universe fanfiction tickles me because it's such a Fazbear Entertainment move to turn the real-life tragedies into Goosebumps/Creepypasta rip offs.
It feels like what the MCU kinda had to do post Endgame: make sure the fictional general public has a base level knowledge of what happened so new characters can be better connected and storytelling doesn’t have to be danced around. I like the concept, much much more than the stitchwraith story being canon as I’ve never thought that made much sense
I always thought that the name "Tales FROM the Pizzaplex" sounded like we could be missing a double meaning, like Sister Location, Pizzeria Simulator, Help Wanted, and to a lesser extent Security Breach. These would be tales *from* the Pizzaplex, as told by them.
I really love this theory, it cleans up a lot of messes that both other theories have Plus, it's kinda how they're written irl. The writers aren't familiar with the game lore and just make stories based on what Scott tells them. The hypothetical in universe writers don't know what really happened and just make stories based on rumours (that their bosses told them?)
The biggest mystery for me was the arcade mini games referencing the books, that’s always had my cogs turning. The books being written in-universe certainly would make the Frights more appealing to approach. I’m just feeling like there’s a massive reveal that we haven’t been given yet in order to make some real progress with the current lore. Edit: I’ve let it simmer a bit, and this theory’s only gotten more appealing. Once again I’ll state that there’s still one linchpin that we haven’t gotten yet that can definitely confirm this theory. Despite this, it’s a massive breath of fresh air to get after dealing with the oddities of Frights over the years. I’m rooting for it!
Ok but the idea of elenor being fake and badly written is hysterical to me. Like dang I bet people talk about how shitty elenor is in the fnaf universe too lmao
what a magnificent "byeeeee", having it cut out twice before ending it makes it really unique, and it is decently long as well to the point where it is satisfying even without considering that, truly amazing
This is my personal headcanon, not necessarily because I believe it, although I am on the fence. It's because it would be so funny to see the chaos it would cause if it was ever confirmed
I really like this theory a lot. I'm not entirely sure I think it's the intention or anything but it's a very cool idea. I like this idea that these are sort of interpretations of real world events but just getting some details slightly wrong.
Is this going to mean that the Character Encyclopaedia is an in-universe text as well? =( But yeah, this is a much better explanation than any of these stories actually being 100% canon tbh. They do read like the wild elaboration of urban legends and fan fiction, so I guess it's possible that that's on purpose.
I like this one. I’ve never been too much on one side or the other on StitchLine vs Parallels (mostly cuz I still need to read the books for myself), and I think a big part of that was neither end really felt fully satisfying. Not that it’s perfect, but this in-universe fiction angle definitely clicks in my brain better than the alternatives. Good stuff!
I have always been a FrightsFiction fan, but kudos to you for elequently putting into words why it works. It's not something that has a ton of hardbacked evidence and is more a dawning over time. A very different sort of theorizing than most of FNaF. Even if it isn't your personal favourite theory, you did it more than justice. You put in your 110% and I really appreciate that. The rogue indie developer is actually what sold me, it read like Lemony Snicket to me. I personally think all the books are in universe books by different authors and for different purposes. Frights is a collection of rumors over time, published by Fazbear LLC as a smear campaign of sorts, to make light of and cash in on real tragedies. Tales is a purposeful cover by Fazbear to create incongruity. I don't know for sure if TSE fits (or if I want it to) but maybe it was written by one of the Emily's to show just how horrid Afton was. Maybe Sammy wrote it after his sister died as a way to cope. Then it would be an in universe what if. Which is just a fun angle imo.
Yes! This is what i was thinking too. I havent looked into evidence or contradictions but my interpretation of scott saying they were all canon was that it worked kind of the x-men comics in the movie logan, or "Wes Craven's New Nightmare" which is a movie about the actors that made Nightmare on Elm Street being haunted, or the "Stab" movies in the Scream franchise's universe. Even in the marvel comic universe, marvel comics exists. Like in universe they make spiderman comics, but obviously they don't know hes peter parker so they have to make thag stuff up. In the marvel ultimate universe, they released an iron man origin comic, but later when the universe was more developed they decided they didn't like that origin so they said it was an in universe comic. Or in the DC universe when they started a new universe they said that the golden age comics were all comics in universe so that they "still counted" Idk why this happens in comics so much. Im really glad you made this video. I havent read the books and im glad you covered this.
Gibi I am so happy to hear that this is your take on all of this as well. Your timeline is by far my favorite and I can’t wait for part two (in however many years we will need for the current story to finish lol)
The thing that always stuck out to me is that Fazbear Frights is named after the location in FNaF 3, the location based on the stories and myths surrounding the Freddy's brand.
Faz Goo and Sea Bonnies are canon. Everything else is in-universe fiction. Edit: Unironically, under this theory, Faz Goo and Sea Bonnies become excellent merch opportunities. If Bonnie themed sea monkeys just showed up one day at the Pizzaplex gift shop, would anyone buy them if there wasn’t a horror story attached?
Scott seems to like to poke fun at corpo-speak, marketing and a lot of aspects around how companies run. Pizzeria Simulator and all the phoneguy calls really hint at this; so I think it's not bad to explore how far the rabbithole goes with Fazbear Frights. I really like your theory because it makes FNAF3 make more sense; it puts more meat on it's bones and legitimizes it more, instead of it feeling like a flimsy or unrelated speedbump in the greater narrative of the story. When writing fiction, a good rule is to actually only introduce as many new things as are absolutely needed; if ideas/concepts overlap it's always advised they get folded into each other to make it easier for the reader to keep track. I think the survival log book could even add to this; imagine if the log book is an activity book next to the fazbear frights books... In the gift shop. Like, you go to the Fazbear Frights horror attraction and then afterwards the path through the building leads you right to a cheesy gift shop full of "spooky" merch themed around the attraction? And then, wouldn't it be in-character for Mike on that long first night of FNAF3 to end up grabbing one of those and start doodling in it, because there's nothing else to do.... And then after Springtrap is brought in "someone else" starts leaving messages in it?
Oh God, someone else Gets It. Like, we already established in HW that Fazbear Entertainment was presenting fictional versions of events as the previous games Why WOULDN'T they make Goosebumps styled cash-grabs as further propaganda/misinformation for that campaign??
my theory has always been that MOST stories in frights + tales are often like...urban legends/campfire stories being told in the fnaf universe. especially with frights. glad to see somebody actually explain why that theory could work lol
The positive to this is that "canon" in quotes remains "canon" in quotes. Everything is just a rumor so it can be questionably canon, but still canon as much as a rumor can be. There's a stroke of genius here somewhere; where we know that they have, more than once (Fnaf 3 and Steel Wool in-game referenced games) that Fazbear Entertaiment has profited off of scary stories and horror, and it's reasonable to assume that producing short tales and books in the same vein could be a legitmate business opportunity, since they already have games and cartoons in-universe. And I think it also can be assumed that the jump from Frights to Tales is also interpretable as "Fazbear Entertainment has made so much money now that they are rebranding alongside the rest of the franchise", meaning it even gives us a point in the timeline where they get more hands on and the "ownership" would change hands and they actively decide to stay on with this "discredit all rumors" approach in business. It's an interesting exit that allows everything to be as canon as they can be and still push one single narrative. I think this is a better answer to paralels because it's still paralels without discrediting the stories as stories, if that makes sense. The negative to that (still assuming it is true), is that it's even more unreliable narration that makes it so much more difficult to dig through things, and it gets sort of meaningless after a while. Like, sure we can get clues and interpretations for things, but in the end if they are all rumors dressed as something else, you have to take absolutely everything with a grain of salt and wait for confirmation of it in the games anyway. They are breadcrumbs that are worthless until confirmation that feed nothing but speculation.
I really love this because it answers my biggest problem with TalesGames/StichlineGames. Why would they never reference any of them in games, obviously because Steel Wool doesnt know what Scholastic is writing but in Ruin theres no reference to the Stichwraith or Andrew. While ive always been a fan of Paralel, this feels like something that Scott would try and set up
i LOVE this theory. i honestly feel like this is as close to solving fazbear frights as you can. the fact that the story characters exist on the arcade cabinets is such a good point. i also adore the idea that the group that started fazbear's fright in FNAF 3 became the new fazbear entertainment. it just makes so much sense.
Honestly I like this most because it does the one thing I so desperately wanted from the books back when it was just The Silver Eyes - to have them completely separate from the story of the games.
This does work in an intersting spin. Why do the books feel weird and take bits of canon without seemingly fitting? Well they're written in universe on rumors and speculation. The Silver Eyes trilogy is in my eyes a seperate canon. But the Frights books work well in this. They are fragments of rumors people heard and how Fazbear could make light of it all but keep the games canon. As it's weird the strange things like Golden Freddy never appear in the mini games in Help Wanted but Ennard does. Ennard is simply found out by maybe security footage where GF is it's own entity not haunting the game. It all blurs the water without needing to exactly retcon. Is it messy. Yes but maybe that's the point. So the games 1-6 are all canon and the books are a spin on all this. Frights being the post revival rumors and Tales the rumors to hide it all. Hide in plain sight so if people ask or bring it up 'well that's these stupid books, can't take it as gospel'
I think I prefer this option over The stories being 100% canon or not canon at all. The series already went “the games you played before are now canon in series” with help wanted, so why not have these books be similar
I love how you end the videos with a random noise 😂 The train of thought in this video would also explain why illusion gas was thrown in that story because the writers would know nothing about illusion disks, just go off of the "gas leaks" in the news and the fact that there are gas canisters in the back room (I always felt like they were helium tanks for balloons).
imagine taking over a seemingly harmless defunct pizzeria company with a dark and ambiguous past for the sole reason of making money, only to later realize you're sitting on a landmine threatening the entire operation you've built up around it. no wonder whoever's in charge would try to collude and misinform the public about their past while simultaneously pushing forward into the future with the rockstars.
Also under FrightsFiction and especially TalesFiction, Fazbear Entertainment could basically outsource their suppression of information through the guise of leaks. "Hey, I heard some rumors that there's this robot under the Pizzaplex killing people." "Dude! Spoilers! Next Tales book isn't out yet!" All actual stories getting out can be treated as leaks for the fictional stories.
this is my favorite theory of modern FNAF media ever, it's a genius idea that fits Fazbear's tendencies so well and makes them even more reprehensible, i love it so much it may as well be 190% canon to me
I remember MatPat kinda alluding to this idea of the fazbear frights books being sorta incomplete retellings of in-universe events, in-universe like a few years back. Don't know who came-up with the exact "frights fiction" theory tho.
the FNAF cinematic universe is becoming real in 52 minutes... this is why i love your videos so much, cuz I've never even heard of this theory before, same with molten MCI (and alter S). everywhere i go, people are talking about the same few things but you actually put out theories i don't see often and that are worth discussing and talking about. soooo thanks for that! it's always a good time when you upload something lol
As someone who believed FrightsFiction before the shortened theory name existed, thanks for covering the theory so beautifully. I know it has snags but overall I still think it explains discrepancies/different continuities nicely. It feels very in character for Fazbear Entertainment to produce a load of goosebumps style theory.
I definitely think that the theory has much weight to it but there is one problem I can see that sort of deconfirms this and ill try to explain why in my own theory. I have a theory that the Tales books and Security Breach games are telling the same story but in different perspectives. Here's my evidence and thought process: Eleanor from Fazbear Frights is referenced in Lally's games meaning Tales is canon to Frights and Security Breach happens in the books but with lots of differences. We all basically agree to an extent that Frights is primarily just to provide hints as well as to pave the way for the future of FNAF and that everything isn't 1 for 1 in the games. To me this implies that the Tales books aren't telling the exact same story as the games either but rather are instead telling the same story with the events that follow the Frights version of FNAF. So if we really have to follow the books we should only take the books as fact and reference the events of the games, *not the points or timeline*. Think of it this way, the Tales books are focused on primarily the Mimic while the games up until Ruin were focused on Glitchtrap which evolved separate from the Mimic code from HW with William's agony/spirit taking over it. This seems like common knowledge now but what I propose is that the events in Tales/Frights happened in the games but replacing the in game events with the book (Frights) versions of them and don't relate to the game characters. For instance: William's agony being spread to all the Fazbear Entertainment property in the warehouse in the Frights version parallels the Mimic code spreading throughout Fazbear Entertainment then being taken over by Glitchtrap. The Mimic Endo being taken to the Pizzaplex by the workers is the book version of Fazbear Entertainment not only using the animatronics for code but literally using everything in the FNAF franchise to make the Pizzaplex. What do you think, and please be respect and constructive 🙃
See? Someone agrees with me! It all makes sense! Even the fnaf encyclopaedia could be an in universe marketing strategy or coverup! Notice that the key information about the main characters are wrong while useless characters like helicopter radioactive glow up chocolate bonnie (idk) has a dedicated page. Almost like a catalogue for merchandising Fazbear Entertainment toys and merch...
This makes things SO much easier lore wise. Moon acting weird? Ahhh shit we need to deal with this... uhhhh. it... was... intentional? Oops? hahaha. I also like that it makes the weird creepypasta setups for the stories make sense.
I’ve never thought of this. This is great! My only question for the Tales portion: how does GGY play in? I feel like that story throws a wrench into it
Kid named Gregory goes missing in the pizzaplex (it's public information as we see with the posters in RUIN) So Faz Ent or Vanny or whoever makes up a story about it? We're not sure if he had a family before this, so I doubt the rumor was THAT big, but something along those lines could work just in case somebody (like say, Cassie) did realize he went away and started looking.
As I said it's a coverup. A story based on the legendary GGY who hacks arcade cabinets lumped in with ridiculous stories to make it seem completely fictitious. But you're right it still is weird.
Wow, I've never had a strong opinion on any theories before but man, this theory was so good! It would explain so much and make a lot of things a lot less confusing. Such an interesting meta take on things
I REALLY like this theory. I remember i heard it when SB came out, but i didn't actually saw a lot of evidence to it. Now with your expansion on the theory, i find it more compelling. Likewise, i'd like to add MY vision of it. It comes from my believe on TalesGames, but i don't think they're in-universe book, neither Tales, nor the Frights, i rather think Frights are the rumors that people in-universe have. All the connection between the characters from FNAF 6 and the characters from the FF make a lot of sense, but... i believe that they're enough divergent to be just ghost stories in-universe. As you said, the books share name with the attraction, BUT, what if, instead of being books based on the narrative of the horror attraction, the horror attraction is made from the rumors that those books are (Like, the FF are just hearsays, and from those hearsays, someone had the idea of making a horror attraction BASED on them). Because, people KNOW about the MCI, people COULD have seen Scrapbaby and Molten Freddy, its just that maybe, the story might be told different by each person, like myths, and it ended up like the Fazbear Frights we know today (You could also make the theory that the Fazbear Frights are a compilation of ghost stories in-universe made by FE or the horror attraction's owner, which would also be fair). I say all this because i believe that, that role of telling the dark history of Fazbear, but also end it with a happy ending with all the "all monsters are gone" fits better with the in-universe FNAF games. We know that Steve Snodgrass (just a random indie game developer If you don't believe TalesGames), was hired to make ONLY 4 games, but later on, in The Monty Within, we are told that FE continued this horror games franchise, and made Pizzeria Simulator, which need SL to happen (If you don't believe TalesGames it also works as a "detail for theories" that's worth mentioning), so it also works for THOSE GAMES to give a happy ending and keep both skeptical and believer audiences under control as you said with all the "all monsters gone, now you don't have anything to worry about" (That's something i've always said about the in-universe FNAF games, that they give a happy ending so people don't worry about those stories, thanks for saying it!). So, as a summary, i don't think the Fazbear Frights are ACTUAL BOOKS, but rather rumors and hearsays that people have, that inspired the horror attraction from FNAF 3, AND that FE referebces in the arcades. It's a very compellig theory, and i think it's better (100 times better) than Stitchlinegames, and that also works to make "parallels" between the games and the FF, due to those rumors being based around the ACTUAL events...
Just as a side note: i don't think Funtime Foxy being crumpled against the wall is an inconsistency. In SL we are told that the Scooper is used as punishment for the animatronics, probably, the employees "punished" Foxy with the Scooper, and put them against the wall some time, just for repair them at another time.
Wouldn't surprise me if Fazbear was covering up the *actual* supernatural and grim happenings hiding it among outlandish tales of "Faz-goo" and kids getting their bodies replaced by scrap.
I would rrather keep all the books separate from the game timeline with some minor cross pollination in terms of general plot and maybe a few ideas. I don't want to have to buy 9,007 badly written books to have to understand the plot in the current games. Let them all be their own timelines.
I've always liked this theory solely because of how deep it goes and how many layers it has, glad to see some coverage! Also, will you ever explain what you think Burntrap is? Watching your vids it's kinda confusing trying to understand what you see him as.
This does sound like something Scott would come up with. I've been trying to figure out how the new game world fits in with the 1-7 story, because he seems to talk about them as separate despite them being in the same continuity. This would be an explanation.
Yeah, I'll incorporate that into my interpretation of the lore. 20:34 RWQ appears as a cut-out in the corn maze, but I guess that could fall under the Hide-and-Seek thing.
God I love this theory so much. Though it also makes me wonder if in universe with the popularity of their vr game and books, would they go on to make the FNAF movie?
Your FNaF Theories are always great because instead of pies in the sky you actually use Logic to try and make a case for certain things, even if they then end up not being "the actual true thing".
I proposed a similar idea (doubt I was the first) when people kept bringing up the storyteller, from what I got from the hear say is they feed the tree information of the company to make new stories, but someone instantly shut it down with a “It doesn’t work like that”. Though I have not been able to get a clear answer other then what I got through hearsay, so I keep circling back to the idea but know it’s just gonna be shot again.
I thought of an explanation for why Theodore the rabbit and Stanley the unicorn(Hope I got the names right) are on the arcade machines. Let's say the first books are still in an alternate universe. There are still parallels, like Charlie existing, so maybe in the games, Charlie had the same toys too. Since this theory mentions that the new Fazbear's company might find the correct information with their resources, maybe they found something about Henry's toy designs, and they thought it was supposed to be animatronic character's that never made it to the public, so they used them.
1:18 wooooooooow i didnt even think about it. the fnaf 3 location is called fazbear frights, an in-universe horror attraction made to capitalize on the horror stories from long ago. a book series being named the same thing only confirms (imo) that the books are meant to be an in--universe horror story collection made to capitalize on the horror stories from long ago. ok lemme actually watch this vid lol
Great theory, this could also explain why mangle is not in the books at all, as the bite of 87 is too well known and so cant be swept under the rug like the rest of the events. And so is never used. Because while mangle is a popular character In real life, they would have too much bad press
That's a very good explanation for the books' canonicity in the games, but the problem with putting that also as an explanation for the HW minigames is that while, as you said, the books tell the deformed beliefs and legends of the events, the HW minigames portray directly the exact same POVs of the events that happened to Mike. It would be extremely hard for any outsider to be able to get right THAT well what happened. Unless, they were present. So this is my theory, kind of unrelated to the video: I know Cassidy has been used as a tool to explain multiple theories, but listen: Let's first consider that Cassidy was present in EVERY OG game. (At least if you believe in MoltenMCI, which I'm also confident is true) In fnaf 1 and 2, they were Golden Freddy. In Sister location and fnaf 6, they were in the funtimes. In fnaf 3, assuming Mike got injected and regenerated by the remnant of the 6 kids, Cassidy was in his body and mind. But with fnaf 4? well, while Cassidy wasn't relevant to the lore back then, they did get in Mike's mind at one point as I said so they met his memories. (which kind of makes the other Cassidy apparitions pointless to mention but you get what I mean) It may seem stretched at first, since you could say the same about any of the other 5 spirits. But, the big difference is that there was only 1 spirit who we KNOW collected the animatronics' identities, voices, and personalities. "The one you shouldn't have killed". (Assuming it's Cassidy which I very much think it is) I mean, fnaf UCN is pretty much LITERALLY non-VR HW. And we know Cassidy is the only spirit kid from the 7 who wasn't in Happiest day, who didn't choose to move on and rest their souls, and set themselves free. They wanted to stay and torture Afton, so they tried. And the information from the memories they used to make UCN got in Fazbear's systems. Now, this might sound somewhat "headcanony" but I personally believe this is an explanation of how it could have happened: They were in Molten Freddy's body when their AI burned in the fire, but the body was still there. The spirits were free but one chose to stay. They tried to keep themselves alive, in what was left of the killer robot, using the rests of animatronic parts that were around. Tried to keep HIM alive. And when the fire was over, they kept his spirit in them, and turned the mind in his soul into a nightmare (And that is what I believe is UCN). Then HW happened were Fazbear's tried to recycle old animatronic circuit boards, and one of them came from the mangled amalgamation that had Afton's spirit tortured (Which I believe is the way Glitchtrap happened). At the same time, Golden Freddy's animatronic was still existing, since William got their remnant through the pieces that were used in the Toy animatronics, he didn't find Golden freddy before he got springlocked. So Fazbear's found Golden Freddy and used their old circuit boards to design the animatronics in the delivery system from fnaf AR, and all the data from UCN, the memories and details of each animatronic character and mechanic, got leaked into the system, giving enough data for the Silver Parasol team to make an entire VR game out of, and for Fazbear's to make an entire animatronic delivery service out of. And the amalgamation with the vengeful spirit still inside is what became The Blob. While, as I said, this could sound very stretched and pulled out of nowhere, there is evidence for many of the weirdly specific details in the theory, connections to other theories, and more reasons why I believe that explaining it in another less weird way doesn't really work without leaving holes. But I just think writing it all down in 1 comment would be too tiring to read. xd I'll answer any question.
Biggest problem with parallels for me is... why? If the answer is "to not give too much away", well, they don't really give anything away, and that would be equally true if every single character was renamed "Michael Cassidy Afton (henry x william's son)".
It's an interesting theory, but I like the idea that the books and games are strictly separate for the most part. That way stories can be told in the books that are different from the games, and the simple solution to this is that it's just an alternate timeline. So when things don't line up it doesn't matter, because they don't have to line up. But that's just me.
Fantastic video! I adore this theory a lot. It answers so much and I definitely see it being in line with Scott's thought process. But now the new question is... are the movies in the games too? Maybe that's how Vanessa can appear in SB, because the mimic learned about her from the movies. idk, just a thought.
