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starting arm wrestling and trying to get as much info possible as i can and oh boy watching your video just cleared so many things in my head thank you
I don't know why your channel doesn't have more subscribers but this is the kind of videos everyone needs to watch I just started following armwrestling and I was confused every move looks the same to me except for the kings move lolll but this video explained everything to me thanks bro
Great content man, this kind of technical analysis is what we need for the sport to grow and develop! It is very helpful for fans to know what they are watching and also for us to practice and replicate moves used by pros. Keep it up!!
Did you ever end up making an inside video like this? This video was perfect and helped more than anything else I've watched. I couldn't seem to find an inside style video. Thanks man!!!
I was thinking the move I started doing 1.5 month ago was some kind of low hand top roll, but I guess its called defensive toproll. But I as cool as it is, it also kind of only works if you are given room to do it for me. Someone who cups well from the start, will eat the defensive toproll because there not compromised and someone that press could out speed you. That why I have begun to do more cupping backpressure, to just have a solid start and that is not a bad idea when I already have a solid cup. But the defensive toproll feels like if it could be used it should be used for me, because now the person has to follow you. Cool video do you have 1 for hook or press?
Thanks for the response! There are definitely gray areas where a move can fall between to primary styles. You'll naturally fall into what works best for you. The "inside" styles like hook and press and something I'm going to do in another video, but I haven't made it yet. Good to know that there's interest
imo the defensive top roll basically is a low hand toproll, if it was a high hand posting it would very quickly become offensive since thats practically king of the hill right there.
@@ryan_turner I am still hopeful that a hook/press video will come. Or maybe I shouldn't? Also, if you have watched the latest video uploaded by voice of armwrestling? (titled: Devon Larratt & Neil Pickup vs Mindaugas Tarasaitis: Part 2) They were having an interesting conversation about what hook is what not (beside many other very interesting topics). I would like to have your take on that.
@@44percentstronger It's still on my "videos to make" list that I keep, but it seems like a better format is the "How to hook/toproll like [insert pro]" videos I make. It's basically the same idea, just a deeper dive on the individual techniques, as opposed to giving each one a quick glance over like in this format. Inside still needs more love, tho, as I've only done Jerry and Artur.
@@ryan_turner I like both formats. With the "A guide to hook/press (inside armwrestling)" you get an organized view of the different inside techniques and how they relate to each other, while with the "how to hook like [insert pro]", as you said, you get a deeper view on a specific variation of each technique. If I could choose I'd like to have them both.
If you watch Hutchings against Corey West or Ron Bath, you'll see that he's actually a hook puller. It's just that against toprollers he doesn't waste energy fighting for his hand and ends up in that classic flop side pressure. I don't really like calling "side pressure" a technique because it's really just a vector of force that can be applied in any style. So to answer your question more directly, I'd say he's a hooker who loses his hand a lot and doesn't care.
@@ryan_turner I actually would argue that he just like Dave Chaffee is more of a pronation side toproller, in the past hutchins was more of a hooker but now since he’s almost only facing bigger taller guys he’s almost always going backwards with his body and driving sideways with high knuckles and pronation
In your opinion, at 16, not being particularly strong in the press is normal? but I'm very very fast, do you recommend me to train this technique? and can it become my strong point growing up?
If you're fast, the press can be an incredible option. The problem at 16 is that your bones and connective tissue still have a lot of growing and conditioning to do, so you're at a greater risk of injury. Find a training partner who will let you SLOWLY train your press in various positions, and SLOWLY pull you out of your press so you get used to that too. Talgat is a great example of what a fast press can be: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-V-fc4IZtejg.html
@@ryan_turner yes, i’m incredibile fast but i don’t have a lot of endurance. Thank you 👍💪 When i don’t have possibility to do table time, resistic bands is good?
what's the difference between a defensive toproll and a low hand top roll? it appears the mechanics of the arm/hand/body are the same. by your definition, is a defensive roll not immediately hitting on "go," rather letting the opponent get the jump, then pulling him to your side with back pressure, a dumped wrist, and pronation; where as low hand is those same mechanics, but immediately hitting with side pressure incorporated as well?
Again, there isn't consensus for a lot of these terms, but you could arguably break a Defensive Toproll into sub categories like "defensive low hand toproll" and "defensive posting toproll". The "Defensive" part really refers to the idea of initially giving the center of the table in order to get more out onto the opponent's fingers. With Low Hand, you don't necessarily swoop to the side like that, and can just rip backwards off the go
@@ryan_turner Just watched your "top roll like Irakli," and "Top roll like Matt," videos. that really drove home the difference. great videos, man. appreciate it. you have a new subscriber.
