I totally know about him. He's the gent that made Japanning possible. If it wasn't for Commodore Perry we wouldn't have some FINE lacquer products from Japan around 1880. If it wasn't for these valuable products we wouldn't have Americans trying to counterfeit them cheaply to make a profit. Japannning... making cheap shit look like a fine import from Japan because Americans are idiots.
So I guess I am the only American who went to a school that taught us about Perry. You have to admit, sailing in with guns pointingh at a whole country isn't the best way to make a good impression. Kind of makes sense why we were called hairy barbarians... Fun fact: even during the closed country period, the Shogun was actually pretty well informed of world affairs. He was following the American Civil War closely and knew it was about slavery. Meanwhile nobody in Washington DC or Richmond knew anything about events in Japan. Except they wanted to show off their gunboats.
America really did plan to drop the bomb on Germany but they ended up defeating them without it. They wanted to show that they had it so that the USSR would be scared so they dropped it on Japan instead of hopping the many islands that Japan has until they get to the mainland.
The U.S. gave Japan many chances to surrender before dropping the bombs (Japanese military started believing its own propaganda). Hell one of Japan's response was a poem that could be taken as a yes or no. Also don't forget the U.S. was in a time crunch because Russia was preparing to invade Japan with the plan to wipe out majority of the Japanese population (future staging area for WW3).
Maybe Germany as a target was discussed but there was no viable plans for the nuke to be dropped on Germany. The Trinity Nuclear tests for the possibility of making a bomb didn't even take place until after Germany had surrendered
@@Donbett1974: There was and will never be a reason to launch an atomic bomb - in this case: two. Atomic bombs are a combination of mass destruction and long-term poisoning because not only causes the explosion and radiation wave an immediate or accelerated death to people, nature and its other inhabitants, it also causes severe damage for decades such as genetic deformities, mushrooms carrying the poisonous radiation, etc. Also, the ones involved in war is the current government and its military - but the US threw the bomb on civilians twice, and that is unacceptable no matter how problematic the country's current politics are.
From what I’ve read about Truman and his decision to use the bombs, it seems that he was most concerned with ending the war as soon as possible and with as few American casualties as possible. It was a hard decision for him to make, stating how he regretted the necessity of using the bombs. It doesn’t seem like he would sacrifice hundreds of thousands of people just to scare the Russians. That along with the fact that I haven’t seen much from Truman to suggest that the USSR notably influenced his decision makes me believe that it wasn’t primarily used to intimidate them.
@@akumayoxiruma The population of Japan at the time was 16 million people plus the amount of people who would have died in Russia's war with America. You may be thinking that Russia wasn't going to attack America well they built over 90k tanks for the attack on America and if it wasn't for the B-52 bomber it would have happen. Russia sold half of the tanks to Iraq.
If you've ever played a Paradox game; "Conquer the north, get that squared away" really hits home after hundreds of years of letting that one tiny northern country stay independent in your realm. Sometimes I just treat them like a city state, till the foolish AI makes one alliance and declares war
8:48 No they weren’t just curious it’s just the dude talking in the video is being vague Harry Truman (USA president) told japan to surrender, if no, they nuke Japan refused They nuked Hiroshima Harry Truman then said surrender or we nuke again Japan refused Truman nuked Nagasaki USA said “surrender or we nuke Tokyo” Japan surrendered True story
Black Adder Goes Fourth has a great way to describe WW I "I heard that it started when a bloke called Archie Duke shot an ostrich 'cause he was hungry." "I think you mean it started when the Archduke of Austro-Hungary got shot." "Nah, there was definitely an ostrich involved, sir."
8:48 i think the current president of america that time want to counter attack japan after pearl harbor attack but he cant. and someone proposed the bomb. they know its a strong bomb but they don't know the full effects ... even the pilots. i think i saw the interview of the pilots, they looked down to see the explosion, but they could not see anything, coz everything was covered by dust and debris. they where shocked
No no, they tested it in New Mexico then (not wanting to drag out essentially a siege of Japan) they dropped one at at time to push Japan to surrender. Yeah..... that is History for ya.
I mean I'm pretty sure he said curious asa joke becaus it downplays the reasons just like how he joked about hitler having acool mustash and juapanagreeing to join since they have alot in common
There is no one real reason the US dropped the bomb on Japan. It was a collaborative decision and nearly half of the US War Cabinet were opposed to the decision--advocating for a land invasion. Also, the US used their last two bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki. So it's safe to say that if the Empire of Japan did not surrender, the US would've either invaded Japan or blockaded Japan by invading occupied Korea. The decision was probably a desperate last attempt to end the war without a prolonged military deployment.
@@SHOfromJapan I believe it's less about Japan in 1945 and more about the USSR. It was our mission in 1945 to stand against the USSR without outright war. Keep in mind bomb 1 resulted in "the US only has one" and bomb 2 was "we can hide underground". It wasn't until the firebombing to Tokyo AND the USSR invading Manchuria the Emperor stepped in. Even then there was a bit of a dispute. While I don't make excuses for our behavior in 1945 we do have to say the ONLY divide in Japan today is 50hz power in the North and 60hz in the South is reasonably good. And Japan today is pretty awesome. Hurray for under estimated Japan.
There's a very detailed (and very long! over two hours!) video by youtuber Shaun that explores all the reasonings and back and forths leading up to the deployment of the nuclear weapons in Japan. It is both interesting as well as frustrating, as it gives insight to the nature of humanity, in particular the darker aspects like pragmatism and cynicism in war. It gives no easy summary, no easy answers - which may be off-putting, but is at the end of the day the most informative way to explain a situation, mostly through examination of documents and comunications, and mainly from the American side.
Is it true that the US military forces did more damage on the other parts of Japan using Napalm rather than what happened with Hiroshima and Nagasaki or was it equally devastating? By the way, thank you very much for posting this video and opening up the comment section for questions. I humbly thank you.
No no no we didn't drop it because we were curious. I'll happily give you the American side of that choice since I had to join a historical debate team for that choice. It was... A very rough and very solemn decision
Hi, new sub here in California ^_^ - enjoyed your reaction and I totally agree, no more war would be great. I noticed your reaction to the USA dropping the bombs on Japan because they were 'curious', and just wanted to mention that's still controversial for a lot of Americans. One side thinks the bombs were necessary to end the war, but regret how many innocent civilians were killed. The other side thinks the bombs were NOT necessary, and we just did it because of curiosity and/or warning to the Soviet Union and/or ego, thinking America should be the world's police (which I think we have NO right to do with our ugly history of war crimes). Anyway, Americans are generally VERY opinionated about everything, and this is still a sensitive subject here which people do fight over if it's brought up. (Mostly we avoid sensitive subjects in order to keep the peace @_@)
Thank you for your subscribing! and I'm glad to hear that some Americans think the bombs were NOT necessary. I guess American military should've taken another way to end the war.
@@SHOfromJapan thank you for your swift, kind reply ^_^ - just want to emphasize, it's not just *some* Americans who think dropping the bombs was wrong; it's a LOT of us. Most people who still try to say it was the right thing to do for *any* reason are Trump supporters who think anything white America does is automatically right. I married a guy from Yamaguchi Prefecture almost 8 years ago; both of us love our own heritage (mine half Irish, half French), but we both also love other cultures. We watch WWII documentaries together sometimes, and it's difficult, but we cry and discuss it, and it ends up helping us grow as people because humans are genuinely one gigantic stupid race, one idiot family that can't get along. If we just figure out that we're all family here on this tiny spinning rock in a little unimportant galaxy in the big universe, it might inspire us to real 'Unity Within Diversity': We can love each other's differences while also still loving our own culture - it's hard, yes, but so worth it. ^_^
@@SHOfromJapan To play devil’s advocate I’d add that it was abundantly clear from Okinawa and the other islands that the Japanese military had no intention whatsoever to surrender. That to take Honshu would have taken hundreds of thousands of American lives. How can the leaders of the USA justify this loss of life when they have an alternative, regardless of the rest of the reasons the bomb was dropped? If the roles were reversed, and Japan had the capability to end the war without losing hundreds of thousands of Japanese lives, would you do the same?
@@aichanbainsidhe33 You say that we should all get along but earlier you grouped people into a category that you can hate. I should probably talk to some more people outside your bubble.
Obviously you wouldn’t want to talk about it, and you weren’t alive when it happened, but I’m curious if you know about Nanking? And if so did you learn about it at school?
