I've watched every interview this guy conducted and how he has followed and reported this story. I'm impressed. Investigative journalism at its best!!!
@@klee5204 Another example of cult brain washing...If anyone seeks counseling it is best served using a therapist that has never met you or any area in your past who will help you by giving you advice not solving your problems for you.
@Deja VaCu You are absolutely right! I was raised mormon and barely got out with my life. But you forgot to include the suicide rates ... The higher the percentage of mormons in a county, the higher the suicide rate is (especially for teens).
Beverly, there are good pastors out there who care and who follow the tenets of the church - not religion - and who honor God. Your comment, while I completely understand where you’re coming from, is not fair in it’s totality. Just like saying all cops are evil and murderers. They’re not all that way. A few bad apples, ie. murderers, don’t ruin the whole bunch thank God.
I was brought up in a strict Catholic home, going to church every Sunday and any Holy Days. When I finished college and moved out of my parent's home I still went to church but when I was in my late twenties I stopped going. I became very disenchanted with the Catholic church due to their handling of the child sex abuse cases but I didn't lose my faith in God. I am against organized religion but not against faith in God. To my surprise, my very devout Catholic parents completely understood how I felt and agreed that I didn't need to go somewhere specific to pray.
I must commend this reporter once again-I’ve commented before on his interviewing skills-for his pinpoint focus throughout all the interviews he’s been conducting on the Vallow-Daybell case. I’m a former reporter and believe me, people can be squirrelly, which makes investigative journalism a challenge. It’s obvious he’s done a lot of background research and is confident with his knowledge of this cult and its tenets. He knows how to keep his interviewees comfortable and on track. I love this guy. He’s smart and sensitive-a superstar in the making. And ... he’s rockin’ those socks!
Nate is excellent at concealing his own opinions on his quest for the truth. National level reporters, in my opinion, would be much more watchable if they adopted Nate's techniques.
So true! If you read the comments on all of his youtube interviews everyone has the same reaction - great work, keen intelligence, but also incredibly compassionate; that's what is so often lacking with many journalists working for high-profile media channels.
nobody MADE Lori believe anything. Lori wanted to believe it. she wanted to believe certain things to justify her bad behavior for ulterior motives probably... Like in the book of Judas.. Judas claims he was the most valiant of the apostles because he was given the most difficult task of betraying Christ(Jesus did say one of the apostles in the room would betray him, Judas took that as an assignment?... why?).. Judas I don't think believed his own argument as much as he just wanted to believe it. the motive for Judas was probably money.
I feel so sorry for Tammy, Chads ex wife who “misteriously” died in her sleep... it’s all so obvious! I’m praying for the autopsy to bring results to lock Chad up
@@Hamigal Yes, she's been exhumed and autopsied. AFAIK, results are still pending or the investigation has them but hasn't made them public, I'm not sure which.
I am praying for justice whatever that looks like in the autopsy. It is never ok to celebrate the punishment of the wicked. The main focus should be to pray for justice that the kids are found & hopefully alive.
Spiritual illnesses (enemies of Spiritual Life) are not gifts, and spirituality does not require intermediaries, much less to guide people to filicide and homicide. Each person can talk and listen to God in their conscience, cults are just ignorant and vulnerable people who fail to dig deep when following criminals who call themselves 'visionaries' and 'prophets'.
@@darknessfadestolight4312 narcissistic personality disorder and borderline personality disorder are two different things they can coincide but they are different diagnosis
Watch TV. Half the programming consists of evangelists conning their flock into believing that eternal salvation is achieved by giving their money to the preacher. Did someone say CON???
@@noeldee9236 Agreed~Plus, Miz Evil also tried to collect from her 3rd Husband's 500K life insurance policy, after her Brother, Alex, shot him💔... Thankfully, her Ex had feared for his life and changed the Beneficiary to his Sister, which Lori found out afterward:) Now, the Authorities have also exhumed Wimpy Chad's wife's body for a belated autopsy since he would not allow it before back in the fall when she died in her sleep suddenly at only age 49~ I am wondering about poison🤨:(
Every student journalist should study Nate because he is phenomenal and he engages with the people he is interviewing and always seems to put them at ease. He is a fantastic people person.
🔴The second I hear "tent cities" I think of our homeless problem in this country. Wow, your boss sitting in on your counseling sessions isn't only illegal and inappropriate... it's downright creepy!
I’m happy this woman has found her way/path in life, she’s obviously very intelligent; not many people are able to step away from that type of abuse once it takes hold.
@6:25 when she talked about the Tent Cities and, on a random Sunday, a figurehead will say to the congregation, "It's time. We've been called out to go". I had flashbacks of Jonestown!
It's a delusion to believe in spiritual gifts at all. Jesus never said one word about that. He is the only way to the Father and needs no intermediary. #JesusWordsOnly
I really like Nate. He is kind, respectful, actively listens to those he interviews. I've never seen a reporter like this in my 59 years of life. He deserves a huge pay increase. Without him, I would not watch this new channel. I have never liked to watch the news, but he has such a calm spirit, I enjoy watching this news channel.
Agreed. Everyone really likes Nate. I’ve seen numerous comments about how good a reporter he is. As you say, he is also a person of truth, respect and kindness and an example to us as to how we should interact with each other.
@Bobbie Mead that's the FLDS, not the mainstream LDS Church. The mainstream church DOESN'T practice polygamy. She's talking about the mainstream LDS church AND the Daybell cult, which is a break off of the mainstream LDS church. Polygamy has nothing to do with this story.
I was a little unsure about what she was talking about there. I think she means she's no longer a Mormon, but her kids are; not that they're in that cult. She didn't talk specifics about her family, which is totally understandable.
@Bobbie Mead Warren Jeffs group broke off many many years ago. This daybell group is more of a bad thread running through the main church, taking advantage of church members.
Those poor kids.....it's hard to believe that they are still alive. I just hope and pray that the Daybell's will pay for what they've done. Amazing job reporting and pursuing this story to get justice for these kids!!
Amy Fender They are not still alive. Look at all the dead bodies piling up in their wake. Guess what! Killing people is not the way Christians prepare for the 2nd coming!
@morrismartialarts - Wow. I sure appreciate you sharing that information with us. I guess I was mistaken, not you. lol It would be wonderful if the children were found some place like that. With all the other deaths though, it is worrisome.
I truly appreciate and applaud this gentleman for how respectful, non judgemental he is and how well he actually listens and does not put words in the mouths of interviewies.
Canis Amator Let's go ahead and shorten that. Religion is so horrible. If you don't believe me, research literally ANY religion- you will find liars, manipulation, ignorant delusionals, systemic abuse of children and murder after murder not to mention mass exterminations...
Out of all the comments I read about this tragedy your few words in your comment are SPOT ON , THE DEVIL IS WORKING OVER TIME THESE DAYS ,CAUSE HE NEEDS TO STEEL THE SOULS OF AS MENY PEOPLE , FAST , CAUSE THE ONLY TRUE THING IM HEARING IS WE NO THA JESUS IS COMING BACK , ....
This sounds eerily similar to the cult of Scientology. Although they don't go for the "God" stuff etc, they also believe in "healing in the spiritual realm", "getting rid of spirits" and other weirdo stuff on their upper secretive levels (which cost parishioners upwards of $750,000 to achieve). I was born into the cult and leaving it was one of the hardest things I ever had to do in my life. I lost every single friend I had - including family members - they utterly "shun" you if you leave and in fact will come after you in a terrible way if you dare speak out. "Total disconnection" is the only way you can make it out - including running the risk of losing your children - forever (thank heavens my own children all left with me). I feel for this poor woman - I know what she went through - and I am so glad she escaped. Good for her!
@@Lauren-vd4qe - 100% correct. I went through absolute hell when I made the decision to leave. I was branded as a virtual "psychopath" and all my lifelong friends and family members were forced to "disconnect" from me. To this day, I have not seen or spoken to my sister since October 2013. They also tried to force my mom to disconnect from me - she refused - the stress of what they put her through and threatened her with resulted in her dying from pure emotional trauma in 2014. I will NEVER forgive them for that.
@JaneyAnimal rescuer P247 - Thank you. I see you know a bit about the loony-bin of it all. The worst part of it all is that it cleverly gets one to "self-brainwash". That is VERY hard to undo. 6 years later, I STILL sometimes find myself thinking like one - and have to consciously "unthink" stuff.
“I feel an enormous amount of shame for staying in a dysfunctional relationship...” No, you left! “... for staying in an unhealthy marriage...” You were brave enough to leave! I hope you see the other side of this coin. You are incredibly BRAVE!!!!! You left some really hard to leave situations. It’s more comfortable to stay than leave. It’s safer to stay than leave. You are brave! Put that shame away! Never look back!
Nate Eaton has followed this case from the beginning and I'm truly have the huge RESPECT for him. He's been with Idaho News for years and years and has a part of his life is to show beautiful people helping in the community. He's so, so AWESOME. ✨✨✨
To think that her family is still.there in that religion. Im.glad that at least they still love and care for each other and ahe couks be at their wedding..thats if things dont change. Maybe with this news they may wake up. But then again they dont qatch rv.and or are told not to watch tv or i guess even listen to the news. Or the preachinga will tell them, they were killed to saved their soul.
One of my siblings is in a kind of prepper cult. I have walked in on her while she was obviously lost in a daydream and when I asked if she was ok, she dreamily looked at me and said some very strange things. She was obsessed with finding a certain style of suitcase that can be brought to their meeting place on the day. My point is, she literally lives for the day when this world will end and her new life will begin in the new system of things, as she calls it. I understand just how far down the rabbit hole some people can go when they are caught up in a group mentality of being special and chosen. I cannot even be around her now for all her death mongering. Their thoughts are not the same as other people. Its total brainwashing.
@The Vagabond Sage in the Woods how long has your sibling been prepping? I wonder do they finally snap out of it eventually? Sorry to hear that btw, it must be hard for you. Take care
@@disappear_here82 thank you. She has been into it for years. She is so far down the rabbit hole, I doubt she could be snapped back. She has lived most of her adult life prepping for “the new system”. She calls people of her organization her brothers and sisters and we are just her “wordly siblings”. Its crazy how far some people take it.
1 John 4: 1 Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world.
1Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God. For many false prophets have gone out into the world. 2By this you will know the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God, 3and every spirit that does NOT confess Jesus is not from God. This is the spirit of the antichrist, which you have heard is coming and which is already in the world at this time.…
One momma Lisa 713 Yes! It takes over, progressing kittle by little til your head is so messed up, it owns you and you don't even realize it. Bless this girl's heart.
Jesus has said...there are no 'religions'. Religions are 'man made'. There is only the 'word of God'. God's word is 'love'. Not fear and hate. Jesus has said he was a teacher of the 'word of God'. Not a particular religion. I believe just because Jesus was marked a Jew by 'man' doesn’t make him necessarily a Jew. Following any 'man made' prophecies is going against the 'word of God'. Putting any 'man' on a higher realm even close to God is wrong. Man, for some reason, needs a 'place to belong'. So, man has created all these different religions and big ass churches in order to belong somewhere. Some of these 'men' have personally benefited by speaking out and gathering groups to follow their word. Not necessarily the 'word of God'. These 'men' are often charismatic and are able to get others to follow. There are these type of 'men' in every religion. Through history there have been some 'men' who have risen to such a high status in their group the followers loose site of God. An example is Joseph Smith. The Pope. Jesse Jackson. Jim Jones. L.J. Hubbard. The list is endless. They exist in every organized religion on earth. Some have done good, but most have not. No one has to belong to a 'religion' to believe in God. Following any word other than Gods true word is wrong. Take all the 'rules', which are all 'man made' in the various religions is not following the 'word of God'. Not eating meat on Friday is an example of a 'man made' word. There are millions of these man made rules in the various religions. They are not the 'word of God'. People who follow any word other than the 'word of God' are truly 'sheeple'. These men who get others to follow their word are doing so for other reasons than to spread the word of God. Greed and power. The followers are people who have lost their way and are looking for something or someone to tell them what to do. It is baffling why anyone would follow another man and give that man all their money so that man can become rich and tell you what you can think and do. But it continues to happen. As far back as written history goes, there have been 'men' like this. Is it possible God will come again one day and give earth's people another good thrashing? Definitely. Is it going to be July 2020 as the leaders of this cult in question have claimed? I guess if July comes and goes the answer will be no. 🤦🏻♀️ from what I have read and believe things will get much worse than what is happening now for God to return. Are things on earth getting ugly? Yes, most definitely. I think God is testing us and if we can’t turn things around then he will have no choice but to re-start things again. All he asks of us is to 'love'. Stop fearing and hating. Stop destroying fellow man. Stop destroying earth. Follow the Ten Commandments. Stop false prophesying. Stop following anyone but God.
When they make it big they're almost dictated what they have to do what they have to say I think he's as good as he is because he's with someone that's not doing that the big networks usually are all in your face about everything and they don't let you have your own style
I'm watching this interview in 2023, just after Lori Vallow Daybell was convicted - Chad Daybell is in prison, awaiting his murder trial. Fascinating interview. Noticing lots of compliments about Nate's interviwing skills - he's reported on this case and the entire Lori Daybell trial and I couldn't agree more. Nate has phenomenal in his incredible reporting. He's become beloved by so many in the true crime community!
I hope people are learning that Jesus is all we need. We don't need these manmade religions as they are more dangerous than we thought. Jesus said that He is the only way to heaven not some manmade religious belief system.Thankfully the children are with Jesus forever in heaven.
I went back to listen to this again more closely, today. Greetings from England! This lady is credible.. For an LDS doctor to tell her she was in a cult is powerful. I recommend everyone still in Chad’s cult listen to her again and let that sink in…. Well done Nate, excellent.
Very interesting how she points out that the church is a wonderful part of many lovely peoples' lives - but not everyone. From her description of her past trauma, there's a very loud theme of preying on vulnerable people coming thru, in light of the trials.
People who say “You didn’t have enough faith to be healed” just irritate the hell out of me. I had a son pass at age 6, his name is Jordan but we called him JJ and he passed from complications from being born at 27 weeks. A lady from my ward said to me “Jordan never got better because you didn’t have the faith to heal him” I just stared her down and said “No I have so much faith God trusted me with a perfect Angel!” My husband is the only one still in the church. I walked away years ago and have never regretted my decision.
When Joni Erackson Tada was first paralyzed she went to a few “healing” worship services. More than one person told her she was not healed because of her lack of faith. God has used her in magnificent ways to touch the lives of others. And it is because of her paralysis not in spite of it. Paul prayed for his own healing and was never healed of his affliction. Would those self righteous people say he lacked faith? People like that absolutely infuriate me. Gods people suffer. Jesus himself suffered. It is completely unbiblical to say suffering is due to a lack of faith
There are three things that work against human beings. The flesh, the world, and Satin. Being born into an unperfect world is a true physical challenge. Some children do not make it and end up in the arms of Jesus sooner than others. It has nothing to do with how much faith you have. God bless you so much.
I have no faith dont believe in god and am very happy ! so weird that people think that you need to have faith to heal ?.or if you pray it can enough "god" will do "something".I just do not understand why others think they can pass judgement on other people and to voice there beliefs it is so strange to me ... live your best life !
This is the second interview I have heard Nate Easton (I believe that's his last name) conduct. I feel he does a phenomenal job and should go national. Which, in a sense I guess he's doing, being on You Tube. Way to go, Nate! (By the way...I do not know this young man.)
He is a great journalist...I don't know him either, but I certainly feel like I know his guests, he does an amazing job disarming and interviewing. Cant wait to see his work when he makes it National. (I'm Canadian so I'm hoping he works with Dateline, I get to watch dateline)
@@Docrocks437 The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints does not fit the definition of cult. Look it up for yourself, please. Most of the members across the world (more than 17 million) are converts (just like the Jews who were converts to the Church of Jesus Christ in the Holy Bible (which we LOVE). The early Jewish converts in the Holy Bible who followed the Gospel of Jesus Christ were called Saints. It's very easy to look these things up. Some groups of ppl SAY they're members, but they are NOT. Respectfully, you judge without all the information about the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.
Lori Elizabeth Wade it does indeed follow the definition of a cult. I think most LDS people are very good, some of the best! But the a lot of the beliefs, organization, and doctrines do fit under a cult definition. -a misplaced or excessive admiration for a particular person or thing-
@@TheBALLER999999 I will tell you as a convert in 1980 at the age of 19, I became a member. I, like most people, have my spiritual ups and downs. So, I've been an active and non-active member. I can say to you this, we do NOT worship the Prophet nor Joseph Smith Jr. We love and worship our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ. Just as the Churches located in family homes, etc in the Bible (we use the KJV), those early Saints (all converts) respected the representatives of Jesus Christ, His Apostles. I love the writings of the Apostle Paul. He spoke with authority to say, "if you don't learn the Gospel from me, it is not truth. (paraphrased, of course.) I think he was speaking to the Saints in Corinth. Please feel free to look up what Paul spoke of when a few men of that Church tried to add Gospel doctrines of their own. He was VERY clear in his letter to them NOT to accept ANY other teachings but from HIM. Paul knew of his authority to represent our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ. The Church belongs to Him, and He guides us thru our Apostles thru the Holy Spirit. Hope this helps. God bless you, especially in these difficult times.
How come you never distort the voices of these people who are supposed to be undercover and protected?? This is the third person you do this to. You can easily know who this individual is if you knew her.
I mean is just bizarre cult BS... is not like they are a royal family or narcs to actually blur all of it including voice, that woman should have shown her face, it’s just silly not to do so, what a circus
@@Plantmermaid so her life means nothing ? She has a right to protect herself and to have her face blurred . 3people have already lost their lives and 2 young kids have most likely have succumb to the same faith . So why are you hiding your face ? You talk big but yet you hide your identity.
She was killed the same way JJ was... first she was sedated (date drug) then a large kitchen trash bag was placed around her sleeping head and secured with duct tape. She died of asphyxia; the timing had to be just right, so that a hurried autopsy would fail to find the asphyxia... depending on the sedative used there may not have even been a trace in her dead body. Alex was probably killed the same way. The clue is the way they found JJ. He wasn't supposed to be found. So, they didn't remove the 'weapon' bag from his head; rather, they just wrapped the body (and the murder weapon) in the second black plastic trash bag. With Alex and Tammy, they had to make the murders look like natural causes; It is unconscionable that the coroner would rush the autopsies for burial; the coroner may be complicit too-- who knows. I am 97% sure that these murders were committed with kitchen trash bags and some form of "date" drug as a sedative.
@Valarie Parker The family reported pink foam on her mouth. When the body runs out of oxygen it burns sugar; which causes the lungs to bleed. If they had done an autopsy, probably would have found fluid (water) in the paracardium, and blood in the lungs. Asphyxiation. Also, Chad is an acute pathological liar.
Sadly, I think her laugh is a bit self-deprecating (in a way) still. The interviewer did an excellent job here and when she laughed, he comfortingly told her she didn't have to laugh. They'd obviously had in-depth discussions before this interview - I'm guessing she may have had a say in editing as well, or at least authorizing exactly what bits they could use. She's struck by the absurdity of how she got sucked into it and nervous laughter came up at moments like this. I agree she is incredibly brave to speak so openly and honestly about her own experiences when she's obviously still healing - as one would from any abusive relationship. I also think this will be incredibly valuable for investigators. She may have spoken with them too. It seems likely.
@@nifflofair6685 I didn't think he was rude. She was laughing at something she thought was going to sound ridiculous, i.e. she thought _she_ was going to sound ridiculous, and he told her not to laugh at herself. They'd clearly spoken extensively before she was on camera.
I’m glad she stepped away from this “religion”, however, two things: 1. She doesn’t mention she has found a true Christian following in order to fully come to know the Lord and His saving grace. 2. She fully intends to be present and celebrate with her children as they continue to proceed through this false religion, rather than lead them to come to know Jesus Christ as their Savior. I pray she , personally, comes to this understanding and that she also shares the love of Jesus Christ with her children.
God bless this lady for being brave enough to share important information and being strong enough to share her own personal testimony. She's a survivor.
@THE TRUTH I don't think she is stupid. She sounds very articulate, coherent and intelligent. I have thyroid issues and I know if I was to be taken off my medication, I could be very susceptible to manipulation.
@@irmajgarcia6009 What he's doing is not witchcraft. I'm a Pagan I practice witchcraft. This man supposedly casting spirits out of computers. It's just a bunch of Tom Foolery. Cults related to Jesus. They just use brainwashing and lies to make their members bend over in submission without a mind of their own.
I agree I’m a member of church of Christ and uses the priesthood in a evil way it’s so not right and makes our church look bad we do teach those things and he’s healing people for control and manipulation that’s not right
These people and their crazy making have absolutely nothing to do with The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter day Saints just as the interviewer mentioned. They have free agency as any other human being to be "crazy" if they wish to.
This woman is a good example of how very brave, genuine, incredibly intelligent people who mean well often can believe the dumbest bullshit in the world. Much respect to her for facing that and working through it. Takes a lot of courage.
The thing is, even "normal" LDS has very strange beliefs, and is a high-control religion. It primes people for even worse cult-like behaviors and beliefs. It's not an accident that there horrific stories are from Utah and Idaho, and among people raised in that church.
Okay I heard this interview and feel like this cult really did pray on vulnerable people. I wonder if Chad ever took life insurance out on any members? It's sad to think people can be so manipulated. Great job on the interviews
Watch "Hidden True Crime" with Sharie Dowdle. She will tell you how Chad cheated her out of money for the books that he published and used her near death experience and embellished it into a book.
This interviewer is brilliant, he misses nothing out, he remembers everything said and works on that, he gets everything out of these people, he should be on Prime Time TV
This is EXACTLY the same kind of people who Karl Marx called "useful idiots" and were essential in pushing forward his Socialist/Communist agenda. Knowing this I now understand why there are so many similar minded people populating the far-left in America. I couldn't understand how they could be so blind when it comes to bringing down all that is good about the US, working feverishly for it's demise! (not that the rest of us are perfect, far from it).
This lady is so impressive and inspirational. She seems so normal mentally having gone through all of this. I know she feels shame and guilt etc. (she mentioned that), but she really seems like she's finding her way out. It's so encouraging to see this because it shows how someone so deeply emotionally abused by the dark side of religion and people (which can be counted in the millions across the world) can get themselves out. Kudos to you young lady. I get why you would cover your face, but I wish I could see it. You are truly inspirational.
LOVE your interviews Nate. Miss Linda of It's A Crime is as you know a big fan and I'm so glad she's talked about and recommended your channel. This insanity aka the Vallow Daybell Horror Show has me totally immersed in what seems like a script for a really bad movie. And the fact that it's real is so far beyond anything in my lifetime, that I find myself literally obsessed with every detail and terrified those monsters will somehow go free or accept a plea deal for a lighter sentence. I can't imagine how it is for you, being on the front line and having to interact with some of the "players". I could never do what you do and I'm thankful for your insight into this insanity. Bravo! 🙏👏👏👏🙏
I hope they've been in the care of some kind of cult, rather than the calamity we have already imagined. It kind of makes Lori's smirk seem less heinous, if her kids are just being fostered by some members of their community...while she and the dude partied in Hawaii. ;( ( better than if they were harmed)
So her ex boss would spend time in Wyoming filming something..Didn't Lori take her children to Yellowstone ? Wonder if this is connected to their disappearance...
I was born a poor black child - Navin Johnson Wow, I was blown away by this “loophole?!” How do you know that they traveled to this location? I know it’s been reported that they went to Yellowstone, are you certain they were within this area? Really curious! I’d really appreciate it if you could send me a note and help me document that they traveled to this particular area in the park. Thanks 😊 a bunch!
That's what I thought. Last time her boy was alive. She had his service dog returned had his ipad in her car didn't collect his Meds and had the daughters phone and bank card in her car. She obviously did something if they no longer needed their things and Meds.
Wow, she was so introspective and eloquent. You can tell she has a good therapist. Ma’am, if you’re reading this: I’m proud of you for leaving your abusive husband and getting out of that situation. That couldn’t have been easy. I hope you’re well.
Cult Member: The computer is acting up again! Chad: I shall pray to cast the demons out of the computer! *Reboots Computer Chad: Behold! The computer demons are gone!
You missed the point. She’s well healed and very brave to share her story. Very generous on her part to want to help others! It’s not easy admitting you’ve been bamboozled.
Lori's beliefs are not a religion, nor do they represent any christian group or practice. They claimed to be religious to get followers, in order to have them give false alibis when the bodies startted falling and polica asking qurstions (insurance money was their religion, no doubt here, anything else was a façade) but only Lori's siblings and Chad were stupid enough to think their ideas had anything spiritual. Any practice that goes against the 10 commandments is false and brings ruin because it lacks spirituality, case in point.
You cannot blame religion. If a person chooses to be a bad person, it's on them alone. They may choose to hide behind Religion, but in the end it is only them incarcerated or in the grave and only that person's spirit that makes it to Hell.
@@veritasvosliberabit5464 not to sound confrontational, so please don't receive it that way.. but the sacrifice of Christ meant we are no longer bound by the laws of the Old Testament. We are not saved because we are sinless, we are saved, because we serve a sinless creator. We are saved by GRACE! Unmerited Devine assistance. We no longer have to sacrifice the firstborn, flawless of the stock and put blood on the doorpost, so the angel of death will pass over us. Jesus took care of all of that. Don't get me wrong, the Ten Commandments are very good reminders of things we should not do. Kill, steal, lie, etc. I hope I haven't offended you, if I have, I do apologize!
Dear lady, there is nothing to be ashamed of. We all make mistakes in life because we're all imperfect, nothing wrong with that. The fact you chose to open your eyes and ask questions is a miracle in itself. And the fact you put yourself out there with such humility is admirable. I do hope Melanie Gibb watches this and follows your examples.
Jesus, had and has nothing to do with religion. Go directly to him. You don’t need a “middleman” Go into a closet or quiet place and meditate (meditative prayer) get to know HIM on a personal level... The wonders that await you... Matthew 23:9-10 Do not call anyone on earth your father; for One is your Father, He who is in heaven. 10 And do not be called teachers; for One is your Teacher, the Christ.
@@kristinajakakas9068so sad, any knowledge of the Lord Jesus? Or just common core, God hating liberal propaganda BS? 5 lies of the century David Moore Case for Christ Lee strobel Jesus: Legend or Lord 3cd set by Paul Maier PhD 20 most asked questions about creation, evolution & the book of Genesis, Answered Ken Ham & others
Man made God in his image and it's been a disaster for humanity. You use your vain imaginations and a book written to enslave you to claim you know God. Lmao, suckers! Stop the madness!!!
The poor woman still talks in complete "cult speak" and code, as if everyone knows exactly what she is saying. And they did, in her core group. It's wild how far down a hole a person can be taken by a group like this.
@@dreaminlayers - I wasn't talking about hiding names or things like that about her boss etc.. I understand the need to be ethical and protect the people in her life.
I'm so glad they covered her face ... she's so messed up. It was hard to follow her word salad. I hope she stays in counseling and finds a relationship with Christ. There is hope in Him. God help her and bless her.
I give this woman tremendous credit! It’s extremely difficult to leave a cult. Steve Hasan wrote a book on cults using the B.I.T.E. Model (Behavior Control, Information Control, Thought Control, and Emotional Control). Many people are waking up to organized religion and leaving the churches.
I had a run in with these people too. They are super “spiritual”, and you start to get jealous of all their spiritual experiences. You start to think there is something wrong with you that you aren’t seeing things like that. I learned pretty quick that trouble was brewing and cut off ties.
It honestly breaks my heart that any woman could be emotionally hurt and manipulated like this. I’m so glad this woman has gotten away and is doing so much better. This spiritual warfare and prepper stuff is really scary. I don’t think there is anything wrong with prepping for an emergency, emergencies happen, but building your whole world and life around it gets very very sick. Wishing nothing but love and healing for this amazing, strong woman!
Thank you for stating the truth that this is in no reflection of the Church. Lori and Chad are not practicing LDS beliefs. Chad and Lori are very strange and started a cult
@@VeeAmericanEagle😭 she spoke to people about wanting to drive off cliff with kids & kill them 😭2 of her 4 husband's have died in last 2 years, she told her latest on she would kill him 😬2 family members died last year 😭The was an attempted murder on her niece's husband linked to a man in her life, now him & kids are in hiding ! 😭Wife of current husband died in fall & this woman married the widow in under 2 weeks 😭And the current husband told a woman he worked with his wife & mother of their 5 kids must die, because she's no longer part of the plan
Maybe if she had a little more than a little religion she could have recognized everything wrong with what he was saying and doing and how that it could not be anything but deceptive and evil
