@eboston7591Charles was married to Lori for 12 years and helped raise Tylee from the age of 4 years old, of course the Woodcocks knew her. You’re making no sense.
Bagnuolo, this unfortunately has happened too often. Police have been warned in many cases like this, but nothing was done until after the person ends up dead. 😢
Yes, exactly. I felt so upset when I learned how he tried to engage the family and friends and no one gave a damn. They're all at fault as well. I hope they do feel guilty because they are!!!
Yes, for him to be actually denied help from the police dept is so completely astounding to me, they treated him like a 13 year old boy making false allegations about his mother, that was so shocking to me the police were so completely on loris side when y to hey we’re interviewing her it was a embarrassment to that department, those cops were giggling like school girls, if she would have been ugly( which she actually is when she has no makeup on ect…) they would have paid attention to his(Charles) claims of her going to kill him s but more serious I’m sure, but instead they talked to her like she was a good friend and he was a jealous husband, which was so out of line, even when Alex shot Charles the way the police treated that crime scene was a circus, no crime tape , they let Alex sit on the curb, they didn’t even hand cuff him, he could have had a gun on him, they never even searched him, they never even tried to save Charles with any type of cpr it broke my heart, in fact I think the cop kicked Charles with his foot as he laid in his living room to see if he was dead , like he could tell through his f en shoe or something, it was a very disturbing scene , especially when Lori got back and started laughing with the police , that really took the crime to a whole other level, the police in that town are like loris best friends and if I’m correct I do not think they even knew her, Charles did not have a chance with cops like that and he even told the cops a few weeks ahead of time that she was going to kill him wtf is wrong with that picture 🤪is it just me
The Arizona police should be investigated! Watching Charles telling the police his fate and them NOT taking him seriously & they lacked steps to protect him- astounding! THEN BELIEVING Alex & Lori also astounding!! Absolutely incompetency!!!!
I know- I was thinking those exact thoughts as well! It’s just unbelievable! I guess Charles wasn’t a good-looking enough blonde flirtatious woman to get himself heard…. 🤨
@susan lawrence ikr I was thinking the same thing.. like seriously ridiculous and I agree that they should be investigated because that's a big ball to get dropped from a police department
It's amazing this show is 2 years old but depicts the current situation almost perfectly. Good for Charles Vallow for changing his beneficiary to his sister. Best move he could have made. I would have loved to see Lori's face when she realized she wasnt going to be a millionaire! May Chad rest in peace.
Maybe if Lori had known she wouldn't get Charles insurance money she wouldn't have conspired with Alex to murder him in cold blood. She needed money to fund lifestyle with Chad Doughboy. He is certainly too dull to keep her in style C did. Extreme respect for Charles and condolences to his family.
I think Charles wasn't taken seriously because he was a good looking man, fit, etc. Certainly, some little blonde was just mad. Since he was male, he wasn't listened to.
I love that Charles changed his life insurance benefactor at the last minute...I can imagine how pissed Lori must have been when she found out. She was really stupid though, she had been threatening Charles, doing her antics on him, hiding from him, keeping JJ from him, locking him out of his house, etc, and actually thought he would keep her on his life insurance? How dumb.
Imagine knowing you are in danger, the police basically ignored you, and you change your insurance policy to someone else because he knew he was in danger. Rest in peace, Charles. You, Tylee, JJ, and Tammy didn’t deserve any of this 😢 You deserved so much better, Charles. I hope the police who ignored your pleas for help think about you everyday and how they could have stopped this whole thing; had they only LISTENED AND HELPED YOU! 😢 All these lives lost could have been spared! It’s heartbreaking 💔
@@greeneyedsoutherngirl6468 Charles was accompanied by his LDS Bishop when he first went to the home the previous night. We never heard from that Bishop again.
I wonder how those cops feel now. Charles told them he was in danger and next thing he's dead, two kids are dead, a woman is dead. If they had acted sooner, it could all have been avoided.
Repeating her delusional words to the police probably had them seeing him as the crazy one who was out to bad mouth his wife. They had no idea how far this was going to go :( Very sad.
His story made no sense yet they couldn't be bothered to investigate! As a matter of fact Lori had a pool party that same night in the home where Charles had been murdered earlier in the day. They need to explain themselves! Rest in Peace Charles
I wonder if in this AZ county, are there a majority of LDS in LE? Is this why they looked the other way when a man (brother-in-law) goes into his house to retrieve a gun, becuz he claims he was struck by a bat (by sister’s hubby), instead of calling 911. This is not self-defense, it is manslaughter. He choice to leave supposed outdoor altercation to retrieve a lethal weapon from indoors. Lazy AZ LE or complicit.
Exactly!And Charles was a semi pro baseball player,if he would have hit him he would would have at least knocked him out so he could at least get on there.
Casey Anthony, as evil as she is, doesn't hold a candle to this case. The adults that knew what Chad, Lori and Alex were up to, and did NOTHING is absolutely despicable. And although I take comfort in the belief that Charles, Tammy, JJ, and Tylee are at peace in heaven, I still can't wait to watch Lori and Chad pay for this. Alex got off easy, in my opinion. And I surely hope both Melanie's, Ian, David, Zulema and quite possible Lori's mother and sister also see justice in this lifetime.
Definitely Mel p needs to get locked up as she would’ve killed two of her children since she was told by her “uncles” that two of her children were dead... she’s the most involved, her, Ian, zulema, Julie Rowe should all be charged with something and loris mother should be charged with making a false statement to authorities after saying she had talked to Jj after he was already murdered by her daughter!!
@@carlosidk2565 and Mel p she shot at Brandon her ex husband so she tried to kill her ex husband and her kids to and she got married right away after she left Brandon just like lory did Mel almost did it but Brandon was smart and moved away with the kids thank God other wise they be dead as well
How come Chad Daybell’s books can still be bought on Amazon? I don’t think this would be possible in my country. They should be taken off the shelves asap in order not to influence other weirdos.
Well in the US money is all the country cares about. They often even let violent killers out on bond. Even Lori had her bond reduced to 1 million dollars after these murders
Bezos has no morals. The US government has no morals. We encourage people to hoard money by any means necessary no matter who is harmed along the way…this behavior is actually encouraged. You’d be shocked how much money and benefits get made off of cults and murder, yes even by the killers themselves.
So much of the reporting on this case is due to East Idaho News. Y'all have done an excellent job and I am so impressed! Thank you for being integral to seeking justice for Tylee and JJ❤
They have a report and footage of Charles on police cam saying she has told him she will kill him, then when he turns up dead they don't do anything and just take their word for it?!?!? There's no justice in that!!!
That was crazy.. And Chads wife died in her sleep at 49.. Yeah sure.. When he talked with the police, warning that his wife has changed drastic/mental issues and belives he is taken over by Zombies and has threatned to kill him -and nothing is done..!? They obviously has murdered people all over the place and several people involved in theire madness -as her niese and what they did with her husband..
@Boston Gal Hmmmm, I'm not sure you know what the duties of the police are lol. One of the reasons there ARE police forces all around the world is to stop us from killing each other, so yeah, it IS their job to protect citizens from being harmed. Nobody expects around the clock protection but having been forewarned they shouldn't have discounted that he was murdered!! FFS, it's even in their oath - to serve and protect.
@Boston Gal Then what does it mean? "We believe that mainstreaming human rights-based approaches in law enforcement is the very embodiment of the PNP Motto, “To Serve and Protect”. More than just being enforcers of the law, we in the PNP are duty-bound to respect, protect, and fulfill the rights of citizens." I don't think YOU know WTF you're talking about!!! I do believe it is the right of every citizen not to be murdered, is it not?!? Irrespective, there should have been an investigation and there wasn't. The police dropped the ball on that one!
The police were so lazy in this case, it's so disgusting, they let Lori get away with what she did it is unbelievable. Three people are dead because of the incompetence of the police.
Why did you just say Charles Vallow died? He was murdered. It truly makes me cry seeing Charles trying to get help from law enforcement. Maybe if they would have believed and helped him the kids might still be alive.
Idk if you heard the phone call between Lori and her sister Robin,… but she completely handed it to Lori,… and was screaming, “You’re in Hawaii on the Beach? While you’re kids are missing!?” Literally. Her sister seriously said everything we all wanna say to her. She spoke for everyone
This case is a great example of the adage, ‘The truth is stranger than fiction.’ It’s so strange no one would think it possible if it were a story. I can’t wrap my head around the things these people did, especially to the kids. The are beyond evil.
The devil got inside them. He played too much with the near death experien e and veil, god dont like ugly and liars, and he got punished and everyoke else too.
I read his Grave Digger book and by the writing in it he was not very smart. That’s why I believe Lori was the mastermind of this whole thing. And with all probability Chad would have been killed eventually after she got a huge insurance policy on him. I still expect Lori to throw Chad under the bus and claim him and Alex killed the kids without her knowledge. Mark my words she will claim she thought they had hidden the kids for their own safety and she didn’t know they were dead.
Terra Riley It’s about when he worked as a grave digger. Some pretty telling stuff about burying bodies. He had experience. His other books were pretty juvenile stories, like religious romance novels. I couldn’t read those even though they were free on kindle. It’s called One Foot In The Grave. Even more creepy now.
@@FloraDubya Wow. He worked as a grave digger. That's gotta come up at trial, no? Unless they're focusing on Cox as the killer. That seems to be the thread. They don't have any hard evidence of how they died, but if they can pin them as influencing/manipulating Cox into it, they're as good as done. What do you think? I really worry about the state being able to get them for anything that would be judicious.. murder would be justice, and they don't have it. It's so frustrating!
I was once convinced I was a mighty barbarian warrior from ancient, forgotten times. Them I turned 7 and wanted to be a Transformer. I guess Lori and Chad never stopped pretending?
Charles was MURDERED! Why do people always say he “died” 🤔 If these people don’t get charged them our Justice system is a complete sham!! They murdered 5 maybe more people including 2 precious children!!
I hope the lifers have a plan for theese two. Even prison inmates dispise this type of person. I'm SOOO glad that she didn't get the million dollars. What a witch.
Don't forget the other possible victims who died under suspicious circumstances like Chad's neighbor who saw the bonfires in the backyard died of PE like Alex and Tammy plus Lori's child custody attorney died unexpectedly when Lori got mad overJoe Ryan getting partial custody of Tylee. I would loke to know the circumstances surrounding his sudden death and autopsy results but I dony know how to get that death certificate and cause of death. Then Loris oldest sister Laura died as an infant and Older sister Stacey Cox who died an early death and afterwords Alex stole her deceased sisters bank card and emptied out her bank accounts and credit card too. Theres also a girl that disappeared who Chad went to h.s. with her name is Kyplin Davis missing at age 17 when they were going to same school. Chad was a cemetery sexton at that point, so he knew how to dig a grave and maybe dig it back up and put her body in a pre- dug grave? He could hide a body in one of the graves if he was smart enough to cover it up well. Just a thought I have had early on in the case. Investigators are looking into Joe Ryan's death as a homicide and not natural causes especially since Lori was heard saying on a podcast she wanted to murder Joe but that she didn't want to do anything wrong and that she didn't have a murderous heart, when we all know Lori had a malicious, murderous heart, when we know Lori, Chad and Alex were all on a murderous heartless rampage to rid the world of all the zobies. However, his 5 kids were fine not dark like Loris kids. Chad gets visits from his kids they are alive, but Loris family are dead at her doing. Now no one but Janice her mom and Summer her youngest sister, who knew almost everything about the murders, especially Charles death; Summer offered to kill Charles if Lori didnt! Quote en quote, and Summer may have been next to get a pulmonary embolism!
@@vanceriddle4191Chad and Lori conspired to have Brandon Bordeaux murdered but Alex Cox and Melani Bordeaux attempted to shoot him in the head, but missed, thank God! I still think Alex drove and MB did the shooting. After being shot at, BB took off in his Tesla and they chased BB for a short distance, possibly trying to shoot him again. In my opinion., either of them could have done the shoo but it doesn't matter! Why is LE not enforcing the law with the murder attempt on Brandon! I still can't believe he let Melani have shared custody of their kids who were rated dark. These other children were on Chad and Lori's hit list as well. Melani was going along with these killings while aiding and abetting in these horrendous crime's! I hate that LE adds insult to injury letting another pretty blonde get away with attempted murder! This makes my blood boil and Melani could have stopped the kids and Tammy's murders! She should serve jail time for her crimes I won't put my lit torch, or my pitchfork down until MP is in prison too. Arizona LE don't act like they know how to do their jobs effectively. Either they don't get paid enough to care or LE is just lazy and don't care enough to investigate and do research on people involved in a homicide where no one vouches for the dead man on the floor, Charles! It's infuriating the cops just went along with the stories and all the inconsistencies.
The freaking cops who did NOTHING about Charles being murdered just makes me sick!!!! This whole story makes me sick!!!! If these two don’t get convicted I will have lost all faith in humanity 😣😔
I Totally agree Charles was on Police Body Cam Begging for help saying his and the children's lives were in be Danger But No one listened or helped And now they are all Dead Pure Evil is what Lori and her False self proclaimed prophet are
I agree..if ever a murder was preventable..also if the police would have taken this threat seriously it is very likely not only charles but tammy, jj, and tylee would be alive right now..I found it more that odd the man charles called bishop was the best friend of jason mow... the same mow that spoke at those preparing of people events and also the same jason mow be seal lori and chad ( 2 adulterers) in the temple claiming to be the reincarnated maroni...
or, that a child that he helped raise showed 0 emotion when killed....wife of over 10 years throws pool party on day of murder at crime scene....they had not lived there that long.. do not think any neighbors are going to go to the new murder house...wonder who was in attendance..
My heartbreaks for Tylee and JJ , Tylee was just starting to become a young woman of 17 .. she was beautiful and had her chance to rid herself of her evil mom and help JJ .. I believe Tylee knew the truth about Charles murder .. God Bless the children. 💕
Mother put tylee against charles talking about how he cheated when he didnt, when she was already cheating with chad. Didnt tylee notice how her mom got together with chad, so she mustve found out she was the cheater and to a married man. Lori thinking chad had money qith his fake novels. Why would a near death experience come out with fake novels about near death experiences...thats why the devil went into him and lori.
Leann Wilson I believe Tylee saw her mom and Alex kill Charles that’s why Lori had to have an alibi as to leave and be returning when the police were there , to look innocent , also why she had to get rid of Tylee , the poor girl , she was in a den of iniquity and couldnt get out or away from all of the evil. I hope that woman never sees the light of day!!
The husband before (Joe Ryan) died in suspicious circumstances and his insurance went to Tylee his natural daughter. Which means the money went to Lori. 6 deaths. Two husbands, two children, her brother, and Chad's wife. She's a black widow.
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I don't understand how they didn't arrest Alex after he shot Charles. He shouldn't of had a gun due to prior jail time. The police messed up. They acted so strange and yet they didn't take them into custody. Such craziness.
The terms of his plea sentenced him to 90 days and several years of probation. If completed with no issues, the charge would be wiped from his record. He can now live as if he was never charged. As far as not being arrested, you can’t arrest someone for being weird. There was zero evidence the police could go off that countered Alex’s statement. Lori & Tylee even vouched for the earlier fight so there was little the police could actually do. And if you know anything about AZ, it’s very pro-gun.
the 4th husband, Charles, been pleading with the cops for help. Yet, after his dead, no investigation of foul play. They believed his wife because she was a woman. Hope there's another lawsuit coming to the PD.
@@thedeepfriar745 They didn't, but they were still incompotent because a. they didn't take Charles' claim that she threatened to murder him seriously and investigate it and b. that they didn't look any further into Lori or Alex right after the murder when there were so many signs in their behavior that something was off. Even as a layman myself I could see that. The fact the cop just laughs along with Lori in the full clip is insane.
What a great news station. East Idaho is very fortunate to have the coverage of news that you supply. So thankful that we out here in Michigan (and the rest of the USA) get to see the coverage you supply. Thank you for such comprehensive coverage.
They have done great coverage, I agree. It amazes me that these people thought they could really get away with this evilness. Hey from Michigan too...✌
Charles: My wife is nuts , she wants to kill me Alex : I shot Charles in the head Lori : Ha ha - wanna come to a pool party? Police: Nothing to see here
This is horrible and how the case keeps dragging on and hasn't started yet . the one thing that was good was Charles removing Lori from his life insurance . i heard the phone call she made& the shock in her voice! loved it! still doesn't make up for him being dead but he knew something was up!
I believe that's part of the reason they murdered the kids so soon. Maybe they would have kept them alive longer if they had gotten the insured money. 😥
I have a lot of trouble with how Charles is described as having ”died”. The truth is that he was shot to death by Alex Cox. Call it what it is and stop covering for Lori’s involvement. It is like tossing sugar in to the sewer to make it look and smell a bit better.
I believe Court TV has a legal obligation in that they cannot say Charles was “killed” or “murdered” because it has not been proven in a court of law (Y E T).
My heart hurts each time I see Charles Vallpw talking to the police. I know police officers see and hear all kinds of things, but that one officer sounded like he couldn't have cared less and indicated that one of his statements was not a threat. Also, Laurie, with her cavalier attitude after a death, is so concerning that it's ridiculous. I wonder if we will ever see a conviction. It seems to be taking forever. RIP to those whose lives were taken in this horrible egotistical ideal.
I don't know why she's been married 5 times! There's nothing about her that's attractive! She is so ugly! They won't live very long in prison! If they do survive, they will have a miserable, existence!
I don't know which death was the most heartbreaking. It started with poor Charles, who couldn't get the help he was crying out for. That hurts. But then, the innocent children, and what they did to their bodies, unbelievable. Then poor, sweet, unsuspecting Tammy. I'm in shock over all of it. I pray for justice for the four wonderful souls that were taken by the real demon zombies.
Death is too good for Lowry and Chad. They need to be tortured like they did the 2 children. They need to feel every bit of the pain those children felt.
I'm thinking it's highly likely that she killed Joseph Ryan too. Or Alex did for her. He was Tylee's father, who was a healthy young guy who suddenly died of a apparent heart attack. Seem super suspicious to me. If he was embalmed and buried they should exhume him and see if they can get a pathologist to find out exactly how he died. especially considering how many other people have died that are connected to them.
@@loriburnip Yelp, I agree girlfriend. They need to exhume Tylee’s dad’s body and let the pathologist do their thing. Yelp, Lori was in on this whole saga of murders in the name of Jesus. I heard that Lori got away with stuff b/c she was pretty. I saw the bitch! She wasn’t pretty in the face at all. She probably had a killer body and knew how to flaunt it. That’s my take on that. Just think, the bitch was in Hawaii shopping for a wedding ring and wedding dress while Chad or Alex or both murdered her kids. I was tickled pink that Lori never got the money from Charles’ insurance policy. Charles left it to his sister. Lol! Smart move! For some reason, I kind of wonder how Chad’s children were treated. I think Chad killed Tyree and Alex rotisseried her putting her parts in a bucket. Makes sense Chad and Alex buried Tyree’s body. Yes, no doubt, Lori was in support of all these murders. Chad and Lori couldn’t wait to jump in the sack freely once his wife was murdered. This woman was perfectly healthy! What folks won’t do for money, sex and greed!
@@barbaramorgan5992 Yep I completely agree. As for Chad's kids they must have been treated ok by their dad because they're still supporting him and saying he's innocent. They think he was taken advantage of by Lori (god I hate sharing my name with that bitch) & they're claiming he was framed 🤦🏼♀️. It's sad that they're in denial, but I can see why they wouldn't want to believe it, he's their only parent left & they don't want to believe he's a murderer. They especially don't want to believe he murdered their Mom.
Another example about police not being trained to help... If Charles would have been upset and talking loud the cops would have done something to him, not for him.....
@First Last what the hell are you talking about? have you never heard about that oath they take to serve and PROTECT? the fact that, more often than not it seems, they DON'T honor that oath doesn't mean they aren't OBLIGATED to do so. it is supposed to be like, the MAIN thing they are obligated to do. unfortunately, they would rather abuse, extort and kill.
And to this day she has also shown zero emotions about her kids getting killed brutally and buried in her new husband’s yard - still insisting on being addressed as his wife.
they should have mentioned the fact that later that day Lori had a fplanned pool party at her house! YES! a couple hours after Charles had just been shot dead in her living room. unbelievable...
Not.aiding with her, but if she plannednthe pool.party..then it qas.planned.before that..if it.was earlier then charles wouldve.died. ormmaybe they.were.telling.charles. there.was.a.pool.party.so.he.think.peoole.were.going .to.be around.cuz.nobody elsw.was.around.
As they say, though...we cannot investigate until there is a crime. Charles said he was afraid "she planned to kill him". Once she did it, they could investigate....but not before. So sad and crazy that it could not have been prevented.
Lori and Alex switched the beneficiary to Lori and Alex acted like he was Charles. Charles got an email from the insurance company informing him the transfer was made. Charles had the heads up and switched it to his sister.
@@laurawrld2097 yes and I've always wondered if hed told her, he and the the children would still be alive - not with her -of course - she'd be so pissed she just might have given JJ to the Woodcocks and thrown Tylee out, but we'll never know.
She not only allowed it. I believe she instigated all of it! She had her hit man brother & devil-driven husband doing all her dirty, evil deeds. 🤦🏼♀️ Colby is the sweetest! It breaks my heart for him & his little family. He wrote a tribute to both JJ & Tylee that is heart crushing.
Thank you so much East Idaho News. Excellent documentation and an in dept coverage of this heart breaking story. It is a COURT TV Special indeed! May the two children and Tammy R.I.E.P.!
Imagine for a moment the kind of family you'd have to be a part of when one of the members is accurately referred to as 'the family hitman'. It's so terrifying that those poor children wound up in that whirlpool the adults around them created. Awful.
So I have a question,,, Alex was a FELON, he done jail time for shooting Joesph Ryan in the Private’s, a convicted felon,,, when he shot Charles Vallow, WHY DIDNT AZ LE CHARGE HIM FOR OWNING A GUN????? Isn’t that illegal to own a gun when you’re a felon???
Unfortunately, he was legally able to carry. He was able to work out a deal following his parole...or some such legalese that I cant recall now. You'll have to look it up if you would like a more specific answer. Believe me, I asked the same question!
The terms of his plea allowed for the conviction to be dropped from his record after completing his jail time and parole. It was as if he never had the felony.
Excellent accurate report. Thanks to Easy Idaho news. Nate was irreplaceable in his intervention reporting Thanks to both Nate's for that. Karen Morente
Charles is lying dead on the floor and she's joking and laughing with the cops. She's sick and heartless! I hope they find her guilty of multiple murders!
Cold blooded. She could have at least acted shocked that a killing happened in her house. That was pretty abnormal. Even if a stranger got killed in front of my house I’d be freaked out. She didn’t even seem concerned her daughter was going to have to see the body or the aftermath. What normal parent or even the Uncle would not try to shield a 16 year old child from a death scene? And it’s the child’s step father lying dead. Too cold all around.
That shows what a true narcissist this piece shit is., married for how long, raising kids, and sends her brother in to do her dirty work for while she’s standing outside joking about the neighbours to the cops ! Doh 🙄 absolutely disgusting. My heart 💖 goes out to all the innocent victims in this sad story !
She thinks her plan succeeded, that's why she's laughing with the cops and had a party that night. It must have been before she found out that Charles had changed the beneficiary on his life insurance.
@Boston Gal It is the job of the police to at least be competent, and they couldn’t even do that. It would help if they had a minimum baseline IQ of 75 to meet employment qualifications, but fell at least 10 points short, OBVIOUSLY. That’s all people want from law enforcement - basic competence. Charles didn’t get that, so more had to die unnecessarily.
@Boston Gal That explains your reflexive defense of cops who come from the shallow end of the gene pool. Not sure what the qualifications are in your part of the world, but in Chandler AZ brain damagd gets a pass.
That's a stretch! The children were already dead when the kids were reported missing. How is anyone to prevent something after the fact? Charles reporting the crazy religious threats, Lori was checked at a mental facility and I'm sure she manipulated that encounter. She obviously didn't tell them she was threatening to murder hubby or planning to murder children or anyone else. So many want to blame police for everything. Maybe you just have a problem with law enforcement.
@Christina, if a man reports people are threatening to kill him and then he winds up dead six months later, why should the police just take the killers’ statements and do no investigating? Especially since Alex had already tried to kill Lori’s previous husband? Had they investigated Charles’s suspicious death, there is a shot the kids would’ve at least been taken away from Lori before she could have them killed.
It's not fair to compare reporters to police. News employees have a huge advantage that cops simply cannot overcome during an investigation: news employees tend to be at least somewhat intelligent.
Wait, so she got rid of the kids because she was mad Kay got the $$? There are no natural deaths in this story. None. Lori’s behind it all! Joe Ryan supposedly died of a heart attack just like Alex. Tammi Daybell “Just died🤷🏾♀️” per Chad. He also claimed she was having “heart problems”. So we’re to believe Joe, Tammi and Alex all coincidentally died the same way? You can bet your bottom $ there are no coincidences in this story. Alex had to go because he knew too much. Alex died the day before Tammi’s body was to be exumed. Coincidence? Not!!! Tylee was there when Alex killed Charles. Just listening to Alex explain what happened with Charles made no sense. Like why wasn’t he arrested? Then Lori and Tylee casually roll up like they just came from getting some Icecream when they were there when the shooting happened. Where’d they go? Oh aaaannnddd they tried to kill Melanie’s husband, Brandon. Melanie doesn’t seem right to me either! Lifetime is PISSED they didn’t come up with this story but are likely putting the movie together as we speak.
Monisha Rogers Of course. She obviously wasn’t interested in caring for his special needs. She even got rid of his therapy dog & took him out of the special school that he so desperately needed. There is also evidence she stopped giving him his medication & THAT’S why he was acting like a “zombie” that day in front of Melanie Gibb! What kid WOULDNT act out after she had his father killed, his big sister just up& vanishes & then she cut him off from his loving grandparents, as well!! She completely uprooted him, sabotaged his special care & then killed him when he started acting out because of it ALL!!!! It was ALL deliberate to either spite the Woodcock’s over the life insurance or to convince herself & her fellow cult members he had to go!! Whatever her reasons were, they were ALL evil intentions. It makes me sick to my stomach that they STILL haven’t been charged w/ murder. Even if she had her dead brother do it, they are STILL culpable as if she did it herself. This is ridiculous.
I read Chad upped Tammy Daybell's life insurance before her death. And listening to the phone call from Melanie Gibb to Lori & Chad Lori mentions not getting Charles Vallow's life insurance. You can hear Lori's bitterness in her voice. I took interst in this case listening to the posted video readings from Rev Donna Serafina. Chilling and accurate. #JusticeForTyleeAndJJ
@@denisehood958 When a religion has a tighter control on the community, than the local police, many horrible things are swept under the carpet. The LDS Leaders told their members to not discuss the case, or watch anything online about it. That shocked me.
We agree😥💔 And please don't listen to liars who will say LDS people are this way, I promise we are not.❤ We are just as appalled as everyone else, perhaps more because it's so close to home for us. This tragedy hurts my heart terribly.❤
What is sooo sad is that if it’s true that JJ climbed up on to the cupboards and then the top of the frig, he was probably trying to get away from Lori because she was trying to force medicate him and kill him, he KNEW, and he was trying to get AWAY to save his own life. 😭
I didn't realize Melanie Gibb initially lied to the police. She doesn't mention that in the extensive interview she gave with Nate Eaton (who is such a fantastic investigative reporter, fighting for those kids!). I wouldn't lie to the police for my family, let alone a friend - and the fact it was regarding the whereabouts of children makes it especially heinous. I see now why she worries about how people may perceive her. My opinion has certainly shifted.
She thought at the time Lori was hiding JJ from Kay! She eventually figured it out and talked to LE and told them the truth. You should watch her testimony it’s very informative
I think it's weird she initially lied in her Dateline interview and her interview w/ Nate about this! She's so sketchy to me. I am grateful shes testifying though cause they probably wouldn't have enough evidence to keep her in jail without her.
I think JJ's family should sue the police department that took care of his father's death. How could they rule his death self-defense so easily. With so many thing happening. JJ and Tyle might be alive if only.
Apparently Alex was under investigation from the day he killed Charles..easy for LE to say now..in my area Alex would've been arrested then the investigation would go on..I totally believe the kids and Tammy would still be alive if Alex had been arrested that day..
@Tiny Princess When a cop violates your civil rights they lose qualified immunity- it happens all the time and people win thousands, tens of thousands on the reg, but it's the city not the cop that has to pay- It takes a year or 2 usually, but watch any cop watch video on here you'll see. Now regarding this case, idk how that would apply, seems like it was obvious the Varrow husband was murdered, of course the dumb cops went w it was justified- they're lazy af...I know, I have a few in my family. I also have a cousin who is a prosecutor in Chandler AZ of all places !!...crazy, I'll have to get some details from her.
@Tiny Princess Um...YOUR statement "Police have qualified immunity and you can't sue"...is what I was responding to..so you would be Wrong on that statement, absolutely incorrect. So, when proven wrong, you just change the topic?... Let me guess, you're a cop, or married to one- the cherry picking of points or facts when you're proven wrong, how cop like.
@Tiny Princess Married to an attorney-the experts on the Law, then misrepresent Constitutional Facts, and I'm the insulting one?...keep moving the goal post. You're Welcome, any time.
“He switched his life insurance from lori to his sister” sister:”he did that cause he knew we’d end up with jj we didn’t ask for it!” No hun, he did that cause he knew what Lori was gonna do to him. She killed her ex husband and I hate how it gets looked over that the poor guy knew she was crazy and the little things like switching life insurance from the person you are suppose to love and take care of to your sister? I’m not buying it man.
If it helps, Ashlynn, I feel the same frustration. Charles tried raising alarms. He sent a link to Tylee by text that told about the dangerous religious sect her mother was in. He got Lori's other brother to try to talk to their church president to get Lori some help. He tried to get a psych eval for Lori and police told her how to get out of it. Lori is a beautiful narcissist who had many people in her control. If she hadn't had the children, maybe Charles would've walked away clean, but he wouldn't desert the children.
@@emilyrose8576 Lori said her friend had J.J., in order for her friend to be the last known person with him. Then her friend would have been on the line for answering the question where was he. She would have been blamed for his disappearance,
@@loisdavis4926 I agree Lois Davis, LVD seems like she has a plan to set up all her friends now, using the Religious card by using the terms dark spirits and zombies. She will throw everyone under the bus that she is allowed to. Horrible, Evil Mother From Hell!
Excessive agreeableness. Watch her interview. All she could say about the crazies' latest assertions was: "That's different." She even explains - You know how you want to believe somebody but you really can't even though you really want to? (No.) The first time she stood up for the truth was when Lori put her directly in harm's way. Even then she lied to police before deciding to get evidence to save herself. (Having had a 5 hour conversation with a relatively sane 'friend' - David Warwick? - which stiffened her resolve.) Note to self: Stick with the Gospels. ✝️
Well, look at the whole picture here. What people down there define as a "friend" is just another lost soul with kooky twisted religious propaganda determining how they lived life - twisted to suit each person's agenda. You wouldn't know if you were someone's friend one day and their murder victim the next day. We don't know what Lori said when she asked the friend to cover for her. Maybe she told her that JJ's grandparents were coming tomorrow and going to demand to see him so she wanted him safely out of the way for a few days. Who knows. Her whole life was a series of lies and deceits.
@@dawndow6650 other countries to it sounds like... and I actually have a justice for Tylee and jj sticker on my back window.. this case has hit my heart since day1
I always appreciate your videos and coverage of this case. I still want to know Tammy Daybell's exhumation autopsy results. I don't understand the hold up. It's been so long since she was exhumed. On another note, Happy Heavenly Birthday, Tylee. 💔
@@gsmith6026 I dint know how but I doubt luck killed Alex. Though if Lori was still considered his next of kin.... At the time they were not looking at it like Lori did....
My brother has beliefs like this. Space,end of the world...he said he heard demon's in my voice. He is an alcoholic. He says he has powers. He says he has been chosen to fight the apocalypse. I don't feel comfortable being around him alone.
This has nothing to do with alcohol. He is mentally ill . Needs a mandatory psych hold . Stay away from him report it and don't mention alcohol. He is a threat to your safety and is in desperate need of a mental evaluation. That has zero to do with his addiction. When you mention alcohol to police they won't take it seriously
Thank you for the coverage of this case. The loss of all the lives in this case is heart breaking , all the victims , Tylee and J.j , may answers one day bring them some peace . May justice ( as much that could be) come.
Julie Rowe is my aunt and I am laughing so hard at these comments about her, she’s so creepy and so weird and talking to her in person just makes you wonder how she can possibly be so delusional and messed up in the head
The grandparents are the best human beings in this family. Colby is doing his share and one can see the pain that he is going through. Lori and Chad are very sick people and they thought and think? they are above the law without any love, care and/or respect. Now, they have to face the music.
Poor Colby. Poor guy has to really be going through it. He has to deal w/ the fact that the mother he loves is capable of doing such evil things to his own brother & sister. Not too mention the man who helped raise him has also been murdered by his own uncle at the behest of that same mother. I can’t imagine what he must be feeling. At least he has a loving wife & child of his own now.
Obsessed with worldly desire and own judgement lead to self destruction and sadly the consequences involved others. Killing innocent people and claiming it a vision from God was blasphemy. RIP JJ and Tylee.
That's because it isn't god's word. If there was a god, there would be only one holy book and it would be clear as day and would never be up for interpretation or, this god does exist and he/she/it is a douche bag, not worthy of being followed or worshiped for allowing not only these two but all the so called evangelicals in Murika who are sexist, racist, bigots who have polluted and corrupted the US founding fathers vision of a country not bound by or forced to follow, stupid, ancient middle eastern myths and fairy tales. They were smart enough to realize that if they did not put into the constitution that the state and church should be separate because if it wasn't, you would get, what you have now and have been getting since and including Nixon, Reagan, the Bushes and finally, The Mushroom Dick-tator with the Jim Baker hair cut, who wears Tammy Faye make up, who seemed to have 100% support from the religious, evangelical, Christians !!!! If you still insist that the Bibble and/or all the other holy books were inspired by if not written by your god, then to all of you but more specifically the women who commented here and all those reading this, listen to your god ! And I quote from 1 Timothy 2 vers. 11 & 12 : 11..." Women should learn in silence, with all subjugation" 12..." I suffer not a woman to teach or to usurp a man's power. Women should remain silent". If that's to hard for you to understand, let me make it really simple for you women. That is your god, telling you, women, to " Shut Your Mouth and Know Your Role !" and since the Bibble comes from the Jews or inspired by the Jew god. Jews say that a boy, becomes a man at 12 to 14, so any woman who speaks or dares to teach a man 14 years old or older is committing a sin and will burn in hell for eternity, which brings us to my last point, at least in this comment. Why would anyone worship, believe and pray to a god who says love me or be tortured for eternity !? The only sin which is unpardonable is the sin of non belief, all other sins are pardonable or forgivable but not believing and not worshiping this god of yours is punishable by torture for eternity and you can never be forgiven !!!!!!
These whackos will indeed get their judgement day and their HIGHER POWER won’t be God!!!! It will be the JURY AND JUDGE!!!! Hopefully after the JURY selection we will hear tons of info that LE been having to hold back on. I truly believe it will explode 🧨🧨🧨 with the different answers that we all been questioning and more.
Tylee was killed because she knew too much and threatened her Mother & Chad's plan, poor JJ was autistic and she didn't want to be bothered with him any longer but was so selfish she wouldn't allow the Woodcock's custody. Sick, vile, evil people. RIP JJ & Tylee ~
the world is often taken-in by "optics" rather than by what is being said, what makes sense. Humans are social and so easily swept up by emotions. Is the main point of countless folk tales, etc. Individually we can rationally support those who are being rational and objective.
I truly Believe that the Arizona Cops are totally responsible and should be held accountable for Charles V. Death. This situation reminds me of the Gabby Patito's Death. The Cops were called it was apparent that Gabby P. was being abused and threathend and the Authorities chose not to do there job and ivestigate Gabby's situation and she eventually turns up murdered.
Oh the Gabby Petito footage infuriates me. You've got a girl who is so upset with scratches/marks on her face and a guy laughing away to the police and the police officer joking about how his girlfriend gets "emotional" too. No, just no.
Why is Julie here ? She is just jealous that Chad choose Lori over her . She knew they were planning on killing Charles Vallow and left a weird coded voicemail for Alex Cox.
In her words "that's nice" like r u kidding me ????? Lori,Alex and. Chad NUTS I would of took those kids if I was grandparents or aunts stating unstable and kept fighting for them
Bothers me so much that the Daybell children support their father. Denial is one thing, and they’ve been through it, but why can’t they see what he’s done? Their own mothers death!
They were gathering together as saints to prepare for doomsday by dispatching anyone who stood in the way of their future together. And they needed insurance money to live well without having to work for it.
