A LOT of people WILL buy this // WALKSNAIL VRX REVIEW

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00:00:00 - The big problem with Walksnail
00:03:04 - Get rid of this ONE thing in the box
00:04:08 - Mounting bracket not included.
Some useful 3D prints for the Walksnail vRX:
* www.thingiverse.com/thing:577... - Replacement mounting bracket for the vRX, which can tend to break.
* www.thingiverse.com/thing:573... - Mounting bracket for Eachine EV300O. May also work on Skyzone.
* HDZero goggle slider mount for Walksnail vRX - www.thingiverse.com/thing:571...
* Sky04X mount for Walksnail vRX - www.thingiverse.com/thing:494...
00:05:04 - Differences between the vRX and the goggles
00:06:32 - Let's plug it in!
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00:07:44 - Firmware for vRX is NOT the same as for goggles
00:08:10 - Walksnail OSD support is AMAZING
00:09:11 - If you lose picture and can't get it back
00:10:52 - Let's put it on HDO2 and Orqa!
00:12:23 - How your goggle screen will affect the experience
00:16:28 - The biggest problem with the vRX is latencyv
00:20:04 - Walksnail reported latency is not accurate
00:21:30 - Why the vRX has additional latency (usually)
00:23:42 - Have I earned your support today?
00:24:52 - Antenna performance test
00:26:42 - Can I freestyle it?
00:28:55 - It's good. but it isn't for everybody.

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@fettmoss Год назад

Thanks Joshua! As a first foray into digital, I was stoked that it works on my Eachine EV200D goggles. It's not a top of the line goggle but does have an HDMI port so I was relieved that there was very little fuss hooking it up. Thanks also for the tip on the lower profile HDMI cable. As well, I have right angle barrel connectors on the power cable, that also cleans up the look.

@kandredfpv Год назад

Oh JB, I can kiss you for being one of the first reputable FPV reviewers to test this system, cause I've been eagerly waiting for this. Firstly it should be noted that Chris Rosser did latency testing of the WalkSnail goggles and got better numbers, because his tests used a 960FPS highspeed cam, whereas your 240FPS GoPro can be off by up to 4ms. IMO, these tests prove that the HDMI/display refresh rate (which adds about 16.7ms of frame latency @60Hz) is not as significant as the HD encoding/decoding latency. After all, the HDZero VRX achieves an average 20 ms latency when paired with same 60 Hz HDMI/display goggles. So I highly doubt that using this VRX on the HDZero goggles with its 100 Hz refresh rate would make more than a 6.7ms latency improvement. It's also worth noting that Chris Rosser also found the latency WalkSnail reports wasn't wrong, but rather the extra latency came from the way the goggle display updates, i.e. one scan line at a time, which introduces anywhere up to 1 frame (16.7ms@60Hz or 10Hz@100Hz) of latency depending on where your LED is located.

@Mike0193Azul Год назад

Fantastic testing and explanations! Would love to see further tests comparing O3, hdzero and walk sail regarding features, video quality, screen quality, and latency with all goggles (and walksnail vtx on hdzero goggles as well as using the avatar goggles). 💚

@IDriveAnAudi Год назад

Got my preorder over the weekend but haven’t fiddled with it yet. Glad to see this review to better understand what to expect!

@MachuPichuu Год назад

same, now i have the issue of trying to fit it in my quads and its basically too thick to fit in any of my stacks unless i zip tie it. I actually cant even fit it in my racing quad.

@badipaddress Год назад

Thanks for the review, fantastic as usual.

@udidroneracerfpv2745 Год назад

It's a good system for a good price. Ideal for those who continue to use the analog system but want to have a digital drone for some types of flights.

@tstepien Год назад

It's possible to attach Walksnail VRX onto HDO2's (Sharkbyte) bracket. All you need is to remote little screw at the back of the Walksnail unit (the one in the top middle) and then once you remove a piece of bracket plastic, screw it in using (Sharkbyte) screw then attach Walksnail device (at max angle) and put the little screw back in and...job done, perfectly attached without any tapes, same as FatShark VRX :) Good luck FPV friends!

@tmdhvn Год назад

This is a top tip! Works for the HDZero VRX bracket (not sure if that's different to the older Sharkbyte bracket, but just adding for anyone else who might be reading :) )

@miquelmarti6537 Год назад

This VRX is a step in the right direction, but I doubt its commercial success after seing so many cables hanging from your head, especially now that HDZero googles are out. Thinking about DJI: If any digital system wants my money, they will have to support analog also. There is no way I throw out all my analog quads, or that I have to play with 2 different googles.

@owensspace Год назад

2 different goggles is the way.

@KrotowX Год назад

Same thing if you want to run analog VRX on DJI v1/v2 googles. Otherwise this is a way how to get Walksnail support when you have good analog googles with HDMI input and are not so picky to slight latency. Pity that Walksnail googles and VTX-es wasn't available at last autumn - I would bought them instead of DJI googles.

@simon-fpv3d Год назад

I start FPV now again (I flew 2020 with HDO) and for me the one and only is analog at the moment, because I like the "open" system. HDZero is to expensive and the VTX is really big. But I am thinking about to build a DJI Quad too. Then I will use analog for fun, freestyle and Tiny Whoops and the Digital System for great shots of landscape, etc...

@KOrnhOliO1 Год назад

@@owensspace No, it's not. We can sell those analog goggles and they help pay for the digital ones! In the case of the V2 DJI goggles, more good analog goggles will sell for within a 100 - 200 bucks or so of the $429 price of the V2's! Some of us don't have the money tree growing in our backyard!

@MachuPichuu Год назад

if only the goggles 2 supported the mavic 3 i would be getting those as a second set of goggles. DJi just is too expensive to try and put it on everything and you cant really use it on small quads. why cant companies just make what people want? i suppose HD zero is doing the best they can at this.

@scottyd035ntknow Год назад

Got the shipping notification for this a week ago from the $200 preorder with the 1S camera. VERY excited. Will be pairing with the HDZero goggles.

@muchthump Год назад

More and more, I'm glad I waited on ordering goggles till I got a set of HDZero on the way and pre-ordered one of these Walksnail Vrx to use as well. Looking forward to getting back in the sky and in HD :)

@dirtfpv Год назад

Something I would have loved to see here is what's the equivalent analog latency, just as a comparison. I really love how in-depth you went there.

@scu-dub Год назад

Awesome Awesome Awesome stuff! I'm still learning stuff today😁 and I STAND BEHIND MY WANTING THE HDZERO GOGGLES SINCE THEIR ANNOUNCEMENT way back when!👍🏽they will be my first hd gogs/analog/whatever I want them to be😁.....I dont race but why wouldn't I want the most versatile gogs out!!!!! I can't wait for your review on em JB✌🏽

@rumpelst1lzk1n Год назад

Note on the Sharkbyte/HDZero bracket: it doesn't work on the HDO2s, but it works with the likes of Skyzone Sky04X. The reason probably being, that the bracket for the original Sharkbyte RX was designed so that the VRX sits pretty flush on the HDO2s. On the Sky04Xs the very same bracket leaves a gap between RX and goggles. This is enough space to that you can mount the walksnail VRX with that bracket.

@josiahmos5880 Год назад

The best thing about this is that people that get motion sickness like me can fly it with a tablet. Finally!

@easyefpv6609 Год назад

You can do that with hdzero too

@eatyourvegfpv Год назад

Latency it's a huge contributor to motion sickness so I wouldn't be too confident about that, sorry.

@MrStevegibb Год назад

sit down and use analogue or hdzero.

@abertheham Год назад

Yeah you’re gonna struggle to use a proper tablet like an iPad or android, but get a 7” HDMI monitor and you’re good to go. Just make sure you have a shade for sunlight etc etc…

@josiahmos5880 Год назад

@@eatyourvegfpv I can fly sim practice runs on a pc screen, but not with a headset. I think for me it's about having enough stationary objects in my field of vision. I will keep latency in mind when buying a tablet/screen. Thanks

@johnkurpiewski3996 Год назад

I just got mine today!!! Probably won’t try it till spring I’m looking forward to your testing on the Cobra X V2 if you get a set.

@WickedWaysfpv7087 Год назад

at this point the hd zero goggles sound like the ones to role with. They can do walksnail, analog, and HD zero all in one goggle. I currently run caddx vista with the dji goggles so if I bought the HD zero goggles it opens me up to all other systems out.

@carmellight8595 Год назад

Thanks for your experiment, Josh. No differance latency with Avatar goggle is meaning quite lots of possibilities. Even you could fly with that more higher latency performed, Orqa goggle. Expecting results with other subbies.

@MCsCreations Год назад

Fantastic flying and review, Joshua! 😃 I hope your HDZero goggles arrive soon and you do the testing again! (Oh, you will! I just got to that point!) Anyway, stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊

@freemandrew Год назад

He showed the HDZ goggles in his hands during the News this week. And now everyone will be mad that a WS review came out while we know he has the HDZ goggles 😛.

@TheEviling Год назад

Cant wait for mine to arrive, i got a set of FXT Vipers that this VTX should fit nicely. Although i for sure will drag my television out on the porch and fly that way too. Just gotta find some 220v mains adapter for them, so i dont have to use batteries.

@835FPV Год назад

I’ve been getting into Fixed Wing fpv and this would be great for a digital ground station as an alternative to goggles.

@hoagietime1 Год назад

Yup, same. These are going to be real popular with the Inav crowd

@grapedrannk Год назад

Thank you for this Video! I Appreciate you!

@freemandrew Год назад

For the best possible WalkSnail experience, choose HDZero. Heh, you can't beat the irony. You even get better DC and HDMI cables from the HDZ VRX.

@20basty Год назад

I have dji on quads now and also use analog on my planes(range and osd options). I got this for my planes because I can easily put it on ground station. Something that is paint with dji if you also use headtracker

@istim Год назад

Something from my own useless expertise for a reverse “you’re going to learn something today” To stop excel being helpful with sequential numbering hold ctrl while dragging. Great review as always, especially the interesting section on latency!

@calvintraviserickson Год назад

Years out from flying personally, everything has changed. Still love ya JB. Thank ya for all you do! Watching ya makes me wanna fly again. Maybe it's time to fix all the broken quads and mess with betaflight again. Keep going bro

@wrstew1272 Год назад

Calvin- things have really ch, I have been following and trying to keep up, can’t.

@Fly_High_FPV Год назад

Thank you Joshua! Looking forward to watching the HDZero review next. Hoping you'll make a digital roundup after that, so we can see image and latency comparisons for all the new systems in one place. I really want to see DJI vs Walksnail vs HDZero. Ive been loving 03 for everything but low light (seems more consistent frame rate than vista), goes further on the same amount of rf, but sucks in the dark...not to mention the weight savings from losing the action 2 and gopro for freestyle (I still fly a heavy gopro for 107 gigs)

@KOrnhOliO1 Год назад

That new update DJI came out with a few days ago pretty much fixes most of the low light issues with 03. RCSchim adjusted the EV up 0.7 and it really made a huge difference - pretty much fixed it completely. Watch his latest video...and do the update. :)

@Fly_High_FPV Год назад

@@KOrnhOliO1 ive done the update. Just havent seen a dramatic difference yet

@zachmachina Год назад

I use the same mounting for my walksnail vrx as I do my Hdzero vrx. It’s a Tpu 3D print for the skyzone 04x Also the Hdzero goggles are being updated (are updated?) to support the high frame rate from walksnail (edit: you did eventually mention this point. Nice 👍) Also, the Hdzero hdmi cable does not work with the skyzone 04x. The way the port on the walksnail vrx is forces the right angle to go the wrong way and makes the hdmi cable too short to use on the skyzone 04x

@00fluxone Год назад

system looks great - I think the uncelebrated benefits going to one of the new hd systems is ending the hassel of debugging your analogue vtx install - i may have been jinxed but i always have trouble with noisy vtx in my analogue builds (yes i use caps)

@DeimosTV Год назад

Good morning Joshua, I really liked the video and I'm in the process of setting up my Orqa One with the vRX. Currently I only have the original antennas here, but I will purchase better antennas (via your links). The question would be whether you can expect another video on how we can exchange the patch antennas for better ones and whether it makes sense to exchange the antennas on the transmitter and whether you also have any ideas there that are suitable for this? Thank you very much for your fantastic videos! Best regards from Germany

@BrainDeadEngineering Год назад

Outstanding show ! All I own is cobra x and a dock-kink . The DK has a HDMI port , different kind looking plug though , Hmm. I'm just a old man cruiser so latency I don't mind. I may pull the trigger on this.

@EnglishTurbines Год назад

I have this VRX on my old 10 inch Monitor...for my FW flying stuff. Looks really good TBH. I also have the Walksnail Goggles for my quad fleet . Cobra's for analogue rigs and 1.2g...🤔😳😏🇬🇧

@syntaera Год назад

FYI HDZero goggles have introduced support for 720p100 mode from the WS VRX. As far as I know, they are the only goggles that support this on HDMI input.

@jamesroberts8971 Год назад

Great video 👍 I pre-ordered the Caddx Avatar VRX before Christmas but haven't had a chance to build my 3.5" quad that it's going to be going in. I also have some Eachine EV300o goggles. Other than the screens (and FOV) are meant to be the same as the SkyZone 04x. Could you possibly source a pair of these for testing alongside the others you get?

@bren42069 Год назад

When I get around to this I'll be running it with my fxt vipers which I will hope should work fine

@airplanenut6242 Год назад

Not sure if you’re looking for a latency measuring upgrade, but the Sony rx100’s support 1000 frames per second (looping buffer but still). Also, the latency here seems comparable to the old Runcam Split cameras which were flyable if maybe not enjoyable. At least that was my experience

@slappomatthew Год назад

I’ve had mine for almost a week. I’m using with hdo1 and I’m pretty happy. This is my first entry to digital and the video quality is amazing. Latency hasn’t been noticeable/an issue although I do get occasional stuttering and it’s very annoying. I used a 3d printed mount, but my fan standoffs broke and then my printed mount broke. So I just used double sided tape and imo it’s better and more solid so I don’t plan to pursue more mounts.

@MKultrapdx Год назад

I was curious if it worked and made a difference on the HDOs. It's my only goggle and purchased weeks before dji dropped their first set. Been kinda jaded on them ever since.

@velkrofpv6654 Год назад

I've been using the VRX now for 2 days after flying analog for 2 years. I have NOT been poorly impacted by any latency. It is there but easily workable. I love the clarity and range. Using on Skyzone 03O

@dcvshambhu Год назад

Does it display full 4:3...or any letters boxing??...how is the image quality??

@velkrofpv6654 Год назад

@@dcvshambhuthat's the only issue. My goggles are 4:3 and the VRX does try and make it work but there is a bit of fisheye. I'm just gonna force myself to get used to it. Hopefully they will release a 4:3 camera. The image quality is still amazing and I'm hooked

@Catiadr Год назад

The latency that limits me most is from my paycheck to my hobby, and in second place is from my eyes to my reflexes! I decided to save my lunch money (literally) and buy this system because my response times are such that I can't push the system that I have (analog) anywhere near its limits, and I want to eliminate the snowy breakup that analog does to me in order to eliminate the weight of my GoPro. That way I can fly under 250g yet still record something of higher quality. If HDZero had eliminated 'snow' and gone the pixilation route in their firmware, I would have gone that route instead. No matter which route I went, it was a gamble, so I just reasoned it out according to my specific wants.

@RonaldHabermann Год назад

Hi Joshua! HDO2 shows a clean 16:9 image when VRX is set to 720p. The goggle does no scaling or distortion on a HDO2 for the hdmi input. ;-) The image is crisp and sharp! As others already commented the HDZero Bracket can be used by opening the little screw on the backside of the walksnail vrx.

@tstepien Год назад

What does it mean to turn off scaling and where is it? Can you get 4:3 in HDO2's? Thanks

@RonaldHabermann Год назад

@@tstepien HDO2 accepts only16:9 1280x720 input. That cannot be changed but there is no deformation, no cropping at all with 16:9 signals as it comes from walksnail VRX. Just black bars abouth and below the image. I have to revise my comment, nothing can be changed with walksnail VRX. Hdzero VTX can be set to send a cropped image to the goggle as i know but I never used it.

@adaniel2224 Год назад

@RonaldHabermann any issues with hdmi input? I've read people had them fail and had to replace. Trying to find out if it's a regular thing. I toomhave hd02s and want walksnail.

@visioneerone Год назад

I have a set of the OG Orqas as my standard analog goggles. I considered the add-on VRX as they'd be mostly compatible but in the end decided to just get the Walksnail goggles. Looking at the cable-clutter demonstrated here just about justifies the extra cost. I like being able to just pull my goggles out of their bag, power up and go fly... no fiddling with brackets or cables etc. I also considered the HDZero goggles but was in the end was unimpressed by their image quality. I'm not a hardcore racer of freestyle pilot so their super-low latency wasn't a major selling point. My whole reason for adding HD was centered around getting the best image possible without giving DJI any of my money :)

@MachuPichuu Год назад

So i assume your just going to keep your original goggles and just use the orqa for analog?

@visioneerone Год назад

@@MachuPichuu Precisely.

@ChainsawFPV Год назад

As a owner of SkyZone 03O's with no module bay, I almost bought this on preorder. I hesitated wanting to see if the system was actually going to catch on, because I cant afford to take chances. If this system can be used to race with, I would be more inclined to purchase it (for whoops)

@ChrisHarmon1 Год назад

I just got one of these and the omni antennas look a bit different from the ones that come on the Avatar goggles. Not sure if they improved them at all but the dimensions and lack of logo do indicate some changes.

@madman216fpv Год назад

Just got my VRX kit with the Micro cam. Gonna pop this VRX on my SZ o4x's and see whats up.

@akeeleferris Год назад

I got a pair of the regular first version HDOs, I'd love to see how these work with those.

@KCQuadTronX Год назад

OMG!!!!!!! THE HDO 2 GOGGLES YOU HAVE IN THIS VIDEO ARE MY ABSOLUTE FAVORITE COLOR!!!!!!BLUE!!!!!! i WANT THEM SO SO BAD LOL.....LOVE YA BUDDY JUST JOKING BUT i BET YOU SMILING RIGHT NOW LOL....Thanks for the video its awesome like always

@661FPV Год назад

Definitely need to test this with HDZERO goggles in 100hz.

@peteroman4297 Год назад

GoPro extension brackets will work. They’re sold in all different lengths. I have a box of different lengths of the extensions and I use them for all kinds of goggles, cameras, night vision, and monitors. 🤷🏻‍♂️👍💯

@benjaming9835 Год назад

Seems that this would work great for a person flying a wing with Inav / Ardupilot.

@crisnmaryfam7344 10 месяцев назад

23:03 The monitor / screens they use, li8kely could be overclocked to run slightly higher. This is pretty common practice, a lot of those super high refresh rate monitors now advertise their highest refresh rates on the box, that are ONLY achievable BY overclocking the monitor. They will say like "165hz!" but its really 144 native or something to that effect.

@madscientistlife Год назад

What happened to that cool ass retro esk intro thing you used to do maine?! I loved that intro!

@chilloutfpv991 Год назад

A small screw will fit through the hdzero mounting bracket to hold the walksnail vrx

@gmivisualsjason3729 Год назад

This is a brilliant VRX..... Can't wait to run it on my hdzero goggles. Currently running it on the Cobra X. The latency is perfectly fine until I start picking up the speed and flying in and around things. Defo need to get the latency down imo

@ranzwocket3119 Год назад

how do you mount it on the cobra x?

@gmivisualsjason3729 Год назад

@@ranzwocket3119 3d print on thingiverse or double-sided tape

@DiraPictures Год назад

I have the VRX and tested it with the Skyzone SkyO4X. The latency was not flyable for me . But i sold the googles for the hdzero Googles.

@noobfpvideo1597 Год назад

I mounted my VRX to my Aomways with Velcro. Worked surprisingly well

@KOrnhOliO1 Год назад

I loved my Aomways, they have a very clear image, but the sliders underneath for pupil distance never went out far enough for my eyes! They worked, but not as good as perfectly fitting goggles would have. Great goggles though!

@noobfpvideo1597 Год назад

@@KOrnhOliO1 yeah I know what you mean, and they’re only 480 lines, but I’m happy with the penetration and a little more for now. Planning to get the hdz goggles later in the year

@karacsonymate Год назад

Hello, your google is V1 or V2 (aomway?) Aspect ratio is perfect with? Thanks.

@KOrnhOliO1 Год назад

@@karacsonymate V1. Yes, aspect ratio is fine. They are great goggles, especially for the price! :)

@noobfpvideo1597 Год назад

@@karacsonymate mine are also the v1

@Crusader4633 Год назад

I got the VRX. It's the only real way I can go digital, since I have a lot tied up in my 04X goggles. (And HDZero is mainly for racing, honestly.) I only wish Walksnail included a better mount - most people are saying the included one breaks if you look at it wrong and I can confirm that's true.

@Tokyo_Dom Год назад

Hdzero is a fair bit more actually - $220 for the VRX, $100 for the vtx/camera, and then you will have snow city unless you buy $50-100 worth of antennas. The walksnail vrx at the introductory price gave you everything you needed for $200... Almost half the price. That's why I jumped!

@Tokyo_Dom Год назад

@@catch22mania I've not flown either, but I did try my friends O3 system the other day and I didnt have any issues (I believe that has higher latency than WS). I wasn't flying anything too technical, but I'm pretty sure it will just be like switching between a whoop and a 3 inch. Different, but doable

@thercdude 14 дней назад

Hey, great video! I'm intrigued - will this setup (Walksnail VRX + Accsoon Seemo + iPhone) actually work? Could you share more about the connection, battery life, HDMI quality, etc.? If it pans out, it could indeed be the ideal minimal setup for those without goggles.

@ludovicstebler1752 Год назад

I use this vrx on my old fatshark HD2 from 2018, a big step up in quality compared to the hdZero vrx, awesome! and didn't feel the latency thing. Don't regret at all

@recon_fpv Год назад

Thank you for saying this! I'm stoked to hear it!

@kd9432 19 дней назад

What effects did it do screen wise? Is it comparable to plugging them Into the computer fpr a sim?

@AllinFPV Год назад

Want to know which RX/digital video ecosystem to go with for my Cobra X goggles, either Walksnail or HDZero. I'm leaning heavy to HDZero but I cant wait to see what you discover.

@kevinjulievan Год назад

Good video. Great info .

@theflyingsandalrc Год назад

Interesting that you were asking why the HDZero VRX was not as popular as this Walksnail VRX is now. I'll tell you what did it for me, was Wezley Vartys video on Walksnail LR test. Walksnail did amazing. However, I don't want their goggles, I think the fact that HDZero came out with their great goggles made it so I considered getting a system that would do everything other than DJI. So I will probably not be buying into the DJI O3 and instead go for mostly Walksnail for fixed wing and cruise flying and HDZero for my racing quads and that's it.

@MrMacBinary Год назад

the main reason for me in HDZero VRX vs Walksnail VRX was HDZero VRX was 200$, but Walksnail was 200$ inklusive VTX and a camera, so you are basically good to go for 200 bucks

@MachuPichuu Год назад

Yeah i have the same feeling. I think Walksnail and HD zero goggles is the best combo. You can use HD zero for racing and whoops and Walksnail for everything else

@stephenmutch4034 Год назад

I have HDZero Vrx on my Skyzone 04x goggles. I don't like the way that HDZero video instantly drops out when the copter gets too far away. Using analogue FPV at the limit of range the screen becomes black and grey rather than colour but you can still fly back into range. With HDZero there is no alternative but to drop the copter and go find it. If Walksnail fades to B & W I would buy this unit and sell the HDzero system to someone who races or never gets to the limit.

@MachuPichuu Год назад

@@stephenmutch4034 typically walksnail will get better range than analog in normal situations. At the limits you will get lots of latency and bad image quality but it should still be flyable. especially in 720p 25mb mode on walksnail.

@wattage2007 Год назад

Absolutely. Compare Wez Varty’s long range tests of HDZero with Walksnail. HDZero is a snowstorm of interference by the time he gets some range. The resolution of HDZ is also terrible, looks like upscaled 480p to me. I’d quite happily put up with some un-noticeable latency in return for an interference free high resolution image.

@661FPV Год назад

I think alot of people will start with this module, then get a bunch of vtx's on their quads, and then end up buying the Avatar/Dominator HD goggles soon after that. So this VRX module will end up selling more Avatar goggles in the long run.

@simon-fpv3d Год назад

I think too. The guys who are interested in this system will buy the cheap VRX to test it and then buy the google if they’re going with the system

@zaccheatum2786 Год назад

It's exactly what I have planned.

@fearlessflyersfpv420 Год назад

I don't think it will sell a lot more goggles. The goggles are not much of a step up for the buck at that point.

@DiamondbackDW406 Год назад

Finally! Still haven’t got my VRX though sadly

@shiggzitiz6463 Год назад

Wicked, got mine a few weeks ago and its still in the box waiting for my next 5" build. Going to be plugging this into a sky 02X lol...

@shiggzitiz6463 Год назад

and to answer your question at the end RE HDzero from my perspective; im yet to actually hear a good reason for my use case. Your video comparing dji/analogue/HDZ made it clear to me that HDZ is more expensive than DJI while having worse output at range/penetration. The only good use for it over DJI that i can tell after watching a lot of your videos is that its only good for latency/racing. Honestly, yours and the communities passion for HDZ baffles me a little, im not against it, i just havnt heard a good argument to go with HDZ over DJI for general flying... Im not Vanover, a split second of difference in latency doesn't win me over. I hope my perspective helps answer that.

@aln4774 Год назад

You running it at 02x? Its okay?

@shiggzitiz6463 Год назад

@@aln4774 VRX is still in its box, not even bothered to try after seeing a video on latency across goggles. Probably going to wait a decade for HDZero goggles to drop in price so i can run my whoops on HDZ and the walksnail on a cinematic quad.

@maikwerner7325 Год назад

Great review, JB I was hyped in November, too, but decided not to get on the bandwagon. I am still debating if it was a good decision or not. I have the EV800D box goggles and fly sub 3" drones, which are analog. It would be great to convert them into a proper HD system (which Walksnail would be perfect for), BUT I don't have a proper way of using the VRx to fly FPV (don't want to connect to my 65" TV to take tothe field ;) ) I would have hoped the Walksnail goggles (box and avatar) would have the same feature set as the HD zero goggle. That would have been an easier pick on converting drones,but still be able to fly older and other systems. Maybe this year will bring some more interesting stuff 🤔 🙂

@KOrnhOliO1 Год назад

That's one reason, besides best image clarity, etc....why I went with the DJI V2 goggles. At $429 with good antennas and a battery is impossible to beat. They do AWESOME analog, with URUAV V3 adapter and V3 metal case (both are super cheap too and work great!). Take it on and off in 3 seconds! But, still solid as a rock. I really like this set up, and the image clarity, penetration, range with a clear picture, durability, and reliability is TOP OF CLASS! 😎🤘 The 03 air unit and camera pushed it way over the top! Nothing is remotely close! Imagine... you can pop an 03 air unit into any drone you have that it will fit into, or mod it to fit with a 3D printer, and you can record 4K / 120FPS crystal clear HD DVR video from your favorite drone! 🤘

@Mambafpv Год назад

I have a WS VRX on the way 🤩

@steelssstu6515 Год назад

Hdzero goggles are now the king of all options, seriously it's a no brainer

@bitterrootfpv2207 Год назад

I got one. Have not installed it yet. Hope it's good with the O4X. If it sucks I'm afraid I will buy the hdzero goggles and sell the skyzone pair.

@philthayer4087 Год назад

Waiting on my pre order placed mid November

@joesollecitojobe4636 Год назад

I'm using it with the cobra x and they work well. I fly like a maniac and don't notice the latency.

@andyroman8223 Год назад

Do you know if I should get it for my Cobra S, or will it be bottlenecked by the resolution

@joesollecitojobe4636 Год назад

@@andyroman8223 not sure gonna have to check the specs.

@joesollecitojobe4636 Год назад

The difference is 480 screen image to a 720. With older eyes like mine it's probably still worth it considering the vrx is on 70 bucks in the the kit.

@cccagley5276 Год назад

@Andy Roman The cobraS only does 480p, so pretty sure it's a no go. Sorry.

@jaysonrees738 Год назад

I would've been testing one since yesterday, but the USPS decided to send it to Maine instead of Nebraska.

@OdysseusVrakas Год назад

On behalf of everyone, we've been waiting on this video.

@sams9716 Год назад

Thanks for the video! I would love to see these on the Skyzone O2C/O2X goggles. They do have mini hdmi in. I was planning on swapping over to walksnail but now worried about the screen size. On the topic of HDzero. For me its what happens when the signal gets low and all that nasty looking static starts coming. Never seen that on the walksnail.

@aln4774 Год назад

You runnning on 02x? It okay?

@carlc.472 Год назад

I personally was impressed with the system, after I figured a couple things out to get it working. (my first experience with HD) I was also impressed with how the stock antennas worked around my property. I to had a big wad of wires hanging off my face, LOL. I personally Want to know if the VTX can be unlocked to 1200mw like the DJI VTX Can.

@KOrnhOliO1 Год назад

Don't strangle yourself! lol

@ikerpere9225 Год назад

I think it can be unlocked in the same way as the walksnail goggles. Joshua has a video on it

@carlc.472 Год назад

@@ikerpere9225 Thank you, sir

@Fast1Guy Год назад

As a fixed wing/monitor flyer this system is perfect. Too bad it doesn't have sound.

@fpvdotkiwi Год назад

Appreciate all the content, excellent as always 👍 but.. I'm sure you know that hdz has a 100fps mode niw.. anyone who watches your vids knows you have the hdz goggles... Was it just that the vid was complete that you didn't mention this (unless I missed it in the vid somehow)? Anyone who watched this and didn't know,, hdzero goggles have a 100fps mode specifically for the walksnail vrx so they are (currently) the best option.

@afcl1984 Год назад

Thanks for the video. But the latency measured on the Dominator HD is in 60fps right? It would go lower in 100fps, I guess...

@KaminKevCrew Год назад

The HDO2 is only capable of taking a 16:9 input. If you’re seeing an image that takes up the whole screen in the goggles, it’s because they’re scaling the image. If you turn off scaling and pass a 4:3 aspect ratio image to the goggles, it will be both letterboxed and pillarboxed - which is why I bought the Sky04X once I moved to HDZero. I suspect the reason the Walksnail receiver module doesn’t have any more latency on HDO2s compared to the new Dominator HD goggles is because the Dominator HD goggles are literally just using an internal HDMI connection to the screens. The HDZero goggles had a huge amount of work put into them in order to eliminate the typical 1 frame of added latency that HDMI introduces. I hope that you will do latency testing with the HDZero goggles when they come in because I’m curious if their HDMI input also eschews the 1 frame of latency like the internal HDZero module does.

@JoshuaBardwell Год назад

Ok that's true but it's also dumb. 1280x760 is a 16:9 aspect ratio. The idea that you would need to re-scale it to 4:3 just to trick the goggles into scaling it back down to 16:9 is stupid. This is something that Fat Shark would fix in software, if they actually gave a crap about extending the life of their analog goggles, which I suspect they don't. PROVE ME WRONG FATSHARK.

@RonaldHabermann Год назад

@@JoshuaBardwell I dont know what your HDO2 is doing here. Mine in showing a clean 16:9 720p image with the walksnail VRX. You can test it if there is some cropping by connecting the HDO2 to your pc via hdmi. A 1280x720 screen should be appear in windows and you should get a clean image in the goggles.

@BabaBlacSheepFPV Год назад

Curious and worried about the distortion on the HDO2s. Mind if you can make a short video on it. Wanted to Try this VRX as intro to digital with my HDO2s

@jackw2 4 месяца назад

As always, great video and analysis. I've spent a lot of my career working on video latency and I'd love to chat with you about it. *This applies to digital video only*. I suspect what they're measuring the timestamp delta between when the frame was displayed (DTS) versus when the frame was encoded at. While that is a great estimate of the scale of the latency (i.e. larger numbers are bad), it can never properly represent the full visual system latency. Every part of the system works at a different "speed" and synchronizing them or even quantifying them is very difficult. The CCD on the camera has a rate (unknown to the VTX), the transmission to the VTX is at a rate, encoding to H.265 (which I think is what they use) has a rate and to save bandwidth is sometimes dependent on future frames (adding pure latency). Next you add that stream to a transport container (probably MPEG-2 TS) so it can be packetized and transmitted, again at a rate. On the receiving side you have to peel open the container, decode the video, and then in this case, transmit it via HDMI to then display it. The only part they can realistically measure is the latency between encoding and when the frame is ready-- Which I believe is what they advertise based on your testing. Analog beats digital every day of the week for latency, but digital can do so much more. ~30 ms latency on H.265 via MPEG-2 TS isn't easy and ~10 ms more for HDMI conversion is also pretty solid.

@jackw2 4 месяца назад

And the bitrate you'll see will be fixed, it's called "constant bitrate". Basically that means the encoder is going to do whatever it can to never exceed that-- it will silently kill quality in order to obey that. The other option of that is "variable bitrate" which is awesome if you can assure you'll have a good connection. In your flight testing at 25 Mbit I could see H.265 artifacts. Raising the bandwidth may fix that, but it'll also make it go to hell way faster if your signal strength lowers.

@darrylmeans725 Год назад

I ordered mine back at the beginning of November and was very excited to try these and jump into this ecosystem. However, the delay and uncertainty as to when I will finally get the system is slowly pushing me away and eventually I need to set a hard deadline as to when I back out and just invest in DJI.

@KOrnhOliO1 Год назад

HARD LIMIT - NOW! lol You really want that hokey set top box on top of your goggles with all of the wires? Can you say Jerry Rigged wires & latency nightmare? LOL 🙄🤷‍♂ $429 for DJI V2's is unbeatable because you can still do AWESOME analog, with URUAV V3 adapter and V3 metal case, I really like this set up, and the image clarity, penetration, range with a clear picture, durability, and reliability is TOP OF CLASS! 😎🤘

@sirmissalot8065 Год назад

i understand that its annoying to wait but if you leave it fine by me... only get my order out the door faster xD

@darrylmeans725 Год назад

After whining about it yesterday, I got an email… mine will be here Tuesday!

@astromancer Год назад

Can't wait for the HDZero goggles test

@mihyouko Год назад

Thanks for the great review and especially the latency measurement. For those who are interested in using the VRX module on box goggles there's an additional problem for box goggles in particular: Most (all?) box goggles use screens designed for mobile phones which are therefore native portrait mode displays. To show the (landscape) video feed on the screen it has to be rotated by 90°. This step adds additional latency. I have learned that since my last comment on Joshua's last Walksnail VRX Video. I have measured the latency in the same way as Joshua for my Skyzone Cobra X V2 with the Walksnail VRX an got 71 ms / 83 ms (first bright pixel / full bright frame). The latency reported by the VRX module was also 30-32 ms. Additionally, I have measured the HDMI input latency of the goggle to be 37 ms (you only need a Raspberry Pi Zero for that - search for "pi lag tester" if you're interested). Considering that the sum of the HDMI input latency and the latency reported by the module is within the margin of error of the measured (first bright pixel) total latency, I would say that the latency value reported by the module is accurate but it only reflects the latency until the end of the image decompression (before the display driver or the HDMI output, respectively). Now, I would be really interested if Fatshark has solved the problem with the "mobile phone screen latency" for the Recon HD. And all in all I'm really considering to order the HD Zero goggles for my Walksnail VRX now...

@gmivisualsjason3729 Год назад

Brilliant comment.... I'm currently running my Vrx on the Cobras and I agree. The latency is a tad too high for proximity at speed/hard freestyle. But for the average Joe it's certainly adequate. Looking forward to delivery of my hdzero goggles.

@T3chStuff. Год назад

i have cobra s ...should i buy Walksnail VRX? budget fpv guy :P

@gmivisualsjason3729 Год назад

@@T3chStuff. For fast proximity freestyle stick with analogue. Less latency.

@T3chStuff. Год назад

@@gmivisualsjason3729 I have a Protek 35 analogue..I don't freestyle just use it for cinematic

@gmivisualsjason3729 Год назад

@@T3chStuff. Well then, it's the perfect set up

@JohnCuppi Год назад

I use it with my Skyzone Sky04x v2 -- and it's very freestylable for me, doesn't feel like there's much if any input lag at all on the HDMI port there. But I am really not “wowed” enough by WalkSnail HD system overall to go out and get rid of my DJI gear.

@shiggzitiz6463 Год назад

Hey, what specifically wowed you so much so that youre willing to replace your DJI kit with Walksnail? I have the VRX and a Sky goggle too so im curious to hear before i eventually go full digital... The DJI kit will cost me about 400 (goggles & VTX) while walksnail will be more like 650-700 (before the recons came out)

@JohnCuppi Год назад

May have misread my comment. I am not "wowed" enough by WalkSnail to go out and get rid of my DJI gear. I have spent the past 3 days flying walksnail 60fps, 720p/1080p at 700mw and 25mbit. I also tried 50Mbps, 1200mw, all sorts of combinations. Having DJI already and a bunch of gear, to switch to this, in its current state does not make any sense to me right now. These two systems are just not drastically different enough to upend everything I own and migrate. Especially not now when we have WTF OS. I think anyone who bought it at the introductory price, who has never flown HD anything before, would be totally blown away by WalkSnail. It performed very well on this latest beta firmware. For the price I paid, it was worth it; I’m interested in watching how WS improves and grows. The 1s offering is probably the biggest edge that WS has over DJI at this time.

@UnlimitedVertical Год назад

@@JohnCuppi Thanks for your original comment and this follow up. I think this is exactly the info I need. I have 04x's and don't own DJI. I'm kind of sitting on the fence between the 3 digital systems waiting for things to firm up...in the meantime upgrading my analog experience (2nd module + better antennas). I kind of wish JB would have done his latency test on 04x's as well.

@JohnCuppi Год назад

@@UnlimitedVertical I think he would have, he put out a request asking if he could borrow Sky04x goggles to test and maybe no one came through. Best I can tell you is that for me to fly DJI I absolutely cannot stand High Quality / High Latency mode. I can notice it. To the point that I will not fly any dji 60fps cameras because they are locked to that HQ/HL mode. WalkSnail 60fps over Skyzone Sky04x v2 feels very close to me to DJI at 120fps/low latency. I was worried it might be laggy like DJI at 60fps but I was pleasantly surprised. The image quality itself though, DJI though beats WalkSnail at the moment. I am not sure however if with more fps I’d be saying the same but that’s what I got for you. Btw I immediately replaced the stock stubbies with TrueRC singularity lhcp ones. I think the patches are pretty good, but the stock stubbies aren’t the best.

@UnlimitedVertical Год назад

@@JohnCuppi Thanks for the extra info! I really appreciate it.

@sixtofive Год назад

My VRX is waiting at the house for when I get back home tomorrow. I plan to try using them with my old FXT Viper goggles. Hoping it will be at least useable.

@EnglishTurbines Год назад

It won't be, the cheap monitor looks terrible when I tried it ....🤔😳😏🇬🇧

@amax2624 Год назад

@@EnglishTurbines Good to know. I burned this some month ago, Now I can stop weeping.

@spec4echo Год назад

Hey JB, you ca also move the OSD in the Dominator goggles too.

@JoshuaBardwell Год назад

Yeah yeah I assume so. I just hadn't seen it yet.

@TheVeganarchism Год назад

Where did you get that fight Club shirt? The bit I can see looks great.

@karolvikt Год назад

HD Zero, best segment for beginners in digital FPV!

@surfsuplukeasmr Год назад

Josh man what would we even do without you

@shaneintegra Год назад

With so many systems in the market now, I really wish local hobby shops would start carrying each one for testing/display.

@deroskar Год назад

wait, local shops still exist?

@shaneintegra Год назад

@@deroskar yeah in some places lol. There is a chain called "Hobbytown" also thats in a lot of places

@rasmus80g Год назад

I would have needed this video yesterday... I got overheat on vtx at the same time I was in the framerate menu... though I broke the system... but when pluging into my gaming monitor i could change it back... who reads the menu especially a short card like this...

@gregorydahl Год назад

I bought walksnail because it was cheaper and seemed to not be as sparky white dotted video feed . And the farshark recon hd goggele with avatar protocol can be in a backpack and have no screw on antennasscratching and bending and breaking and catching and screwing .

@gregorydahl Год назад

Think of the new white slippery plastic goggles with 1080p video and digital clear picture seeing telephone wires and branches all in the backpack no spindle sockets wrenches and brass nuts to tighten . And with the fatshark written accross it . Not just a fatshark sticker on ev800 . 's . Nice huh

@friendlyfire01 Год назад

Okay but what about the original HDO's? 960x720p might take the 1080p signal relatively cleanly, no? Being that 1920/2 is 960, will the left and right screens split the vertical pixels or just compress the video?

@Chimavideo Год назад

Very good module.

@sL1pKn07SpinFlo 10 месяцев назад

how about use PC/console VR headset with VRX? for fun, PSVR for example? (edit. nope, needs usb commands for run) but another VR unit maybe can work

@madman216fpv Год назад

the mini hdmi that comes with this vrx is toooo stiff it will probably cause premature wear on the hdmi plugs on both the goggles and vrx. First thing that will have to be replaced with the hd zero hdmi cable. Highly recommended. Also, the split barrel plug as well.

@RCRitterFPV Год назад

Just got the 1s kit a few days ago.. really bummed it doesn’t do 2s. But going to try with an AOS T3 And my orqas. But really don’t like extra wires. Favorite part of the orqas are how small light and packable they are..

@streetmtb Год назад

Run it off the 5v on the flight controller, I’m doing that with a 4s and 1s

@RCRitterFPV Год назад

@@streetmtb was thinking that, but worried BEC not strong enough.. maybe an external bec...

@streetmtb Год назад

@@RCRitterFPV I run off a 1s happy model super bee lite, which is weak and seems alright so far. A external bec would be ideal though but if yours can do 1.5amp that will be fine