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God's Not Dead: Can God and Philosophy just get along?
God’s Not Dead is a film that takes place inside a philosophy lecture hall. It’s also a film where philosophy is depicted as a method of radical atheist indoctrination. In this episode of A Philosopher Reacts, we explores the relationship between academic philosophy, atheism . . . and the guy from Duck Dynasty.
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00:00 - Intro
02:04 - Recap
03:09 - First Day of Class
08:15 - Josh’s First Lecture
11:25 - Josh’s Lecture 2: The Return
13:46 - Josh’s Lecture 3: This Time it’s Personal
17:57 - Conclusion
Hosted and Analyzed by: Michael Burns
Directed by: Michael Luxemburg
Motion Graphics and Editing by: Jackson Maher
Video Title Card by: Amanda Murphy
Produced by: Evan Yee
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@andrewkind2820
@andrewkind2820 3 года назад
"How can you hate someone if they don't exist?" I hate all the characters in this movie and they don't exist
@funkyfreak97
@funkyfreak97 3 года назад
Exactly. I hate God because his fictional existence has caused a cancerous growth to plague society for thousands of years, leaving billions dead in his wake.
@moskovthefirst2227
@moskovthefirst2227 3 года назад
@@funkyfreak97 nice now show that same enthusiasm for all of mankind cause we do and did the same damn thing. Such ignorance and narrow mindness. One the other hand you should respect others faiths whether or not you believe or not believe in the same thing
@360.Tapestry
@360.Tapestry 3 года назад
@@funkyfreak97 wow. so righteous
@leyrua
@leyrua 3 года назад
@@moskovthefirst2227 What if my faith demands that I commit human sacrifice? Should you respect my faith then?
@moskovthefirst2227
@moskovthefirst2227 3 года назад
@@leyrua I'd probably be concerned but I cant convince you to think otherwise if you were a follower of said faith. At that point the law would handle that not me. But that's besides the point. But are asking this just to have a reason to mock others for their faith? But then again you were just asking a theoretical question to see how I'd respond and honestly i love debates like these
@stephenschiffman5940
@stephenschiffman5940 3 года назад
I love how in Christian movies, the main character is the only Christian around. Like, there's no way Josh would be the only Christian on campus in any real American university, he just wouldn't.
@tamuk12able
@tamuk12able 3 года назад
It's hilarious cause my ACTUAL college experience was being surrounded by at least 5 Christian Student Organization, 4 churches in the college town, many a bigoted preacher with posters, Westboro style, and constantly having to avoid corners for lunch as to avoid student evangelists *trying to teach me the word of God 🥰" I really hate western Christian culture. Did I mention that I went to a state school?
@plapln9347
@plapln9347 3 года назад
The assumption of the film I think is that university has ~converted~ everyone else to atheism
@PaintedHoundie
@PaintedHoundie 3 года назад
@@plapln9347 super devout christians live in this fantasy timeline where nobody practices religion anymore but like 3 people like in closing end times prophecies or something. so you may be right, the college campus serves as a perfect microcosm as a godless anti-christian institution for them.
@rickardkaufman3988
@rickardkaufman3988 3 года назад
People like Russell Wolfe who produced the film and co-founded Pureflix think colleges are a leftists Marxist safe space to create atheists and all types of genders to destroy Western Civilization and Christianity through atheism when it's all just feelings that these conservative Christians perpetuate for profit.
@PaintedHoundie
@PaintedHoundie 3 года назад
@@rickardkaufman3988 I never understood how people think our civilization is so fragile that we would crumble from people using they/them pronouns n shit. do these people even study how civilizations fall?
@daneroberts1996
@daneroberts1996 2 года назад
If I was a student in Josh’s classes I’d be furious that my valuable and expensive class time was being wasted on this pissing contest between Josh and his professor
@jaebird3077
@jaebird3077 2 года назад
Yeah. You go to a philosophy class and end up in a theology class that only covers christian theology. *Confused Jackie Chan meme*
@loturzelrestaurant
@loturzelrestaurant 2 года назад
@@jaebird3077 I have the silly hobby to ask people on YT if they'd like some nice recommendations of any kind. Science-Channel may be my favorite thing to share, but that's not all, as i have kept my Interests and Hobbys very diversified for my whole, entire life. So i got all you can imagine (except Sports!)!
@jaebird3077
@jaebird3077 2 года назад
@@loturzelrestaurant does science-channel have a lot on space? Like gravity, star formation, astronomy stuff?
@loturzelrestaurant
@loturzelrestaurant 2 года назад
@@jaebird3077 Yeah? Such things and more are covered. But also 'How to Drink FIRE!!' (without hurting yourself) and other cool stuff. I mean, lets face it, science isnt called 'cool' by Scientists just as a Marketing-Trick, lol. 'Veritasium' has stuff covered like this. But i think presenting Science with Humor is even better, so arguably better than Veritasium would be 'Sci Man Dan'.
@jaebird3077
@jaebird3077 2 года назад
@@loturzelrestaurant it's probably the one time in media there are no marketing tricks haha I'll check them out for sure. Probably won't be drinking any fire though hahaha
@sketchygetchey8299
@sketchygetchey8299 Год назад
How God’s Not Dead Should’ve Ended: Josh goes to the university office, reports the professor’s syllabus, gets the professor fired, goes to the concert. The End
@highroller-jq3ix
@highroller-jq3ix Год назад
+Sketchy Getchey And then in the sequel, the former professor could become an alt-right and incle hero and make a gazillion dollars spouting Jungian woo-woo, harp endlessly on three Russian writers, and become and international celebrity misogynist and transphobe. Or, alternatively, he could become a not-so-famous anti-vaxxer and conspiracy theorist in conjunction with his equally delusional and equally fraudulent spouse.
@luisfelipegoncalves4977
@luisfelipegoncalves4977 Год назад
And plus, the professor wouldn't be dead.
@samlynn1652
@samlynn1652 Год назад
I'm not an attorney but this looks like a pretty clear cut case of religious bias.
@Reed5016
@Reed5016 Год назад
@@samlynn1652 Amen. Lol.
@darksidems
@darksidems 7 дней назад
extremely late but yeah, bro could've just said that the teacher was skipping out on an extremely important part of philosophy due to religious bias and he would've been fired almost immediately
@isaacdelarosa3349
@isaacdelarosa3349 3 года назад
I’m glad that both atheists and Christians dislike this movie
@paytonburrows2325
@paytonburrows2325 3 года назад
Unless of course you live in the Bible Belt like yours truly and everyone eats up Pure Flix film like biscuits and gravy.
@tcarroll777
@tcarroll777 3 года назад
@@paytonburrows2325 I was so disappointed when I saw my grandma had War Room on DVD lol we do live in central Texas though.
@danielrazo450
@danielrazo450 3 года назад
As a Christian Philosopher I hated this movie.
@cobracommander8133
@cobracommander8133 3 года назад
@@DougBurgum4VP Sure you did shlomo
@gabrielwilson3248
@gabrielwilson3248 3 года назад
Sad to report that I know many Christians (my own mother among them) who love this movie
@bretwilliams249
@bretwilliams249 3 года назад
Can we also just appreciate how the film fails to recognize that the professor is, uhh... NOT AN ATHEIST! He's mad at God, and therefore doesn't lack belief in God's existence. Not an atheist, by definition.
@TheRandomDog
@TheRandomDog 3 года назад
Late but that's how they see atheists -- no one *actually* believes God doesn't exist, they just had some trauma that made them turn their back on him that some nice Christians have to help them get through.
@irishdc9523
@irishdc9523 3 года назад
What is actually called misotheists
@pipp9003
@pipp9003 3 года назад
@@TheRandomDog what do they do about people who never heard of your god? They turned their back on someone they don't even know one thing about? It's also quite rude to just ignore the stated believes of someone. I can't just say "You may think you are a Christian, but you just had some trauma and turned your back on Krishna or Hylates", that would be rude and wrong of me...
@KunouNoHana
@KunouNoHana 2 года назад
@@pipp9003 Nah, they just Romans 1:20 you, and say that EVERYONE knows god exists and so there are no atheists per the "does not accept the claims of a god's existence" definition of atheism, so you must be a misotheist or a heretic or a proponent of "ATHEISM" which is some kind of competing religion rather than a lack of belief in their god claim.
@pipp9003
@pipp9003 2 года назад
@@KunouNoHana yep, sounds exactly like my mother in law
@KlaxontheImpailr
@KlaxontheImpailr 2 года назад
I want the Monty python group to make a spoof called “God’s not quite dead: he’s getting better!”
@wayfa13
@wayfa13 2 года назад
it's tough being a newt
@Droemar
@Droemar 2 года назад
SNL did "God is a Boob Man" and got quite a rise out of Pureflix for it.
@tomokolovecraft3792
@tomokolovecraft3792 Год назад
@@Droemar that shit was hilarious. "God is a titty man!"
@sayari2547
@sayari2547 Год назад
🤣 fuck yeah , that would be gold
@992turbos
@992turbos Год назад
Just go listen to the God Awful Movies podcast. Monty Python was funny 40 years ago. Comedy has come quite a long way from that dry english humor.
@TheVeryHungrySingularity
@TheVeryHungrySingularity 2 года назад
I took two semesters of philosophy in college, the professor wore a cross necklace and it wasn't even a Christian college. There was never a religious focus for or against, it was more history, logic, and ways to approach thinking about things. These movies are basically "Tell me you didn't go to college without telling me you didn't go to college."
@sebastianbass2219
@sebastianbass2219 3 года назад
As a Christian myself, I find movies like these to be cringy, insulting and embarrassing.
@supersmashbro596
@supersmashbro596 3 года назад
you know, i was formerly a christian. and it wasn't gods fault that i stopped being one, it was man. even if i were still christian, i'd be right there with ya. and the way this film portrays non-christians is... just ugh. not every person who isn't of faith is an athiest guys. some of us still believe in god and jesus but are so sick of mans twisting their words into propoganda.
@MrDicehead
@MrDicehead 3 года назад
Same. Clearly the movie makers did not actually study any philosophy when making this movie. Movies like these feel more like propaganda or confirmation bias than to actually challenge the audience watching. The Christian music and film industry is massive. Music and movies like these feel disingenuous and as if they were solely being made for a quick buck.
@kewinmikoajczyk1616
@kewinmikoajczyk1616 3 года назад
+1
@kingchickenwing4887
@kingchickenwing4887 3 года назад
Why?
@kingchickenwing4887
@kingchickenwing4887 3 года назад
@@supersmashbro596 So what do you believe then? And why would you stop believing something you thought was truth just because of people being annoying?
@henny925
@henny925 3 года назад
"How can you hate someone... that doesn't exist?" He clearly hasn't watched any game of thrones episode lol
@an8strengthkobold360
@an8strengthkobold360 3 года назад
Exactly, he's kinda an *ssh*le.
@lancegambit9851
@lancegambit9851 3 года назад
Haha yes Ramsay Bolton is exactly the example i give anytime i hear this ridiculous statement.
@jonathanstern5537
@jonathanstern5537 3 года назад
Or read The Order of the Phoenix, or seen that season of Buffy with The Trio. There are plenty of detestable characters in fiction.
@Shinkajo
@Shinkajo 3 года назад
@@lancegambit9851 you can hate a character, but a fictional character is not a real person
@georgeprchal3924
@georgeprchal3924 3 года назад
Catelyn Stark.
@frostyguy1989
@frostyguy1989 2 года назад
"Why do you hate God?" "I don't hate that which doesn't exist." "So you hate Him?" "No. There's no such thing as God." "What happened to make you hate God?" "Nothing. I already told you, there's no such thing." "But why do you hate God?!" I swear, Christian conservatives are literally unable to comprehend the concept that some people not only don't subscribe to their religion and religious ideas, but DON'T BELIEVE THERE IS A GOD.
@sebastiannolte1201
@sebastiannolte1201 2 года назад
Ask them "Why do you hate Zeus?"
@GoodAvatar
@GoodAvatar 2 года назад
@@sebastiannolte1201 What about Ares or Athena or Hermes or Amen-Hotep or Thor? What about *THOR* , Sebastian? The God of Thunder didn't help kill all the Frost Giants because he wanted to be forgotten!
@RanaltheBeetle
@RanaltheBeetle 2 года назад
Except that the professor admitted that he hated God, or did you miss that fact? Whoops 😅
@GoodAvatar
@GoodAvatar 2 года назад
@@RanaltheBeetle GD, that movie is bad.
@CharlotteSWeb-oh7ou
@CharlotteSWeb-oh7ou 2 года назад
@@RanaltheBeetle That's the point, idiot. Imagine thinking the fictional character created by evangelicals for the purposes of arguing against a strawman supports your argument. Did you miss the part where the movie isn't real?
@edorasmarauder5761
@edorasmarauder5761 2 года назад
I'm sorry but when the professor said, "I see no God up here other than me," basically, I laughed.
@Anonymous_Gambito
@Anonymous_Gambito 2 года назад
That reads like a tumblr shitpost
@Nuadin
@Nuadin 2 года назад
He forgot he was only a half-god....
@thejedisonic67
@thejedisonic67 2 года назад
its like a Duke Nukem quote
@wayfa13
@wayfa13 2 года назад
clearly, the professor is a cat
@lacabraasada2326
@lacabraasada2326 2 года назад
Jesus could walk on water. I can walk on ice, which is 100% water, therefore, I am 100% Jesus
@bookerc1
@bookerc1 3 года назад
“How can you hate someone that doesn’t exist?” *Professor Umbridge enters the chat*
@darwinxavier3516
@darwinxavier3516 3 года назад
Also: Henry Gyrich-X-Men Adami Winn-Star Trek DS9 Sentinel Prime-Transformers Animated Pong Krell-Star Wars Clone Wars Alfred Bester-Babylon 5 Amanda Waller-DC The Bishop-Castlevania Joffery Lannister-GoT Muruta Azreal-Gundam SEED Garrosh Hellscream-WoW Nui Harime-Kil La Kill Charles Magnussen-Sherlock Negan-The Walking Dead Robert Kinsey-Stargate SG1 Dr. Roderick Campbell-The Gifted Col. Hans Landa-Inglourious Basterds Adelai Niska-Firefly
@memahselfni
@memahselfni 3 года назад
Read another book please
@darwinxavier3516
@darwinxavier3516 3 года назад
@Nicholas Nguyễn Umbridge herself doesn't exist, but there are plenty of real people just like her in the world. Pretty much anyone who's worked customer service has run into someone with a similar personality. The authoritarian who believes in unquestioning obedience to rules and power. The tool who thinks whoever is in charge is right. The power-hungry sycophant stepping on people to climb the corporate ladder. The petty middle manager abusing their position to feel powerful. The pompous bureaucrat getting in everyone's way in order to remain king of their tiny hill. Umbridge is more hated than Voldemort because way more people have actually run into people like her. People can hate fictional characters because of the types of personalities and values they represent. People can hate fictional characters because the idea of them can inspire and encourage real people to commit atrocities in their name and be general assholes to each other. Hating a character is very much like hating an idea. Its not impossible by any means and happens all the time. You and others trying to tack on additional baggage to a definition won't change that.
@arc4859
@arc4859 3 года назад
@@darwinxavier3516 Fuck Pong Krell. All my homies hate Pong Krell
@loke6664
@loke6664 3 года назад
3 words: Jar Jar Binks.
@adamc5914
@adamc5914 3 года назад
They should’ve named this shit “Strawman: The Movie” Pretty easy to feel secure against your perceived opponents’ arguments when you make propaganda where the representatives you’ve chosen for them say exactly what you want them to.
@thepaulwalkerexperience8727
@thepaulwalkerexperience8727 3 года назад
Ya' hit the bullseye. And they do this when talking directly to me in online debates. Theist: You believe the universe came from nothing. Me: No, I don't. My stance is that nobody knows why there is a universe. Including you. Theist: Well, you just hate God. And how can you hate something that doesn't exist? Hmmm? Me: Which God are we talking about? And if God isn't real, I can hate Him the same way I hate Darth Sidious or any other fictional villain. And so on. Every armchair apologist that goes on the internet for the first time does this kind of shit.
@adamc5914
@adamc5914 3 года назад
@@thepaulwalkerexperience8727 I hate Jar Jar Binks and he fortunately doesn’t exist either.
@thepaulwalkerexperience8727
@thepaulwalkerexperience8727 3 года назад
@Bharath G I wasn't aware of any angry rants. I'm just being truthful. They always try the same things over and over, thinking we've never heard them before. It's wash, rinse, repeat.
@cryofpaine
@cryofpaine 3 года назад
Even giving it the credibility of a strawman is generous.
@arthurcleary6361
@arthurcleary6361 3 года назад
what?
@JABRIEL251
@JABRIEL251 2 года назад
Seriously, the whole time I was thinking "isn't this a philosophy class?", why is there so much emphasis in discrediting physicists?
@markgrudzinski914
@markgrudzinski914 2 года назад
Because all science is baaaad. Jesus cries when you use the scientific method. Evangelicals have got to be the most intellectually lazy people on the planet.
@flowingafterglow629
@flowingafterglow629 2 года назад
Hey, notice that Sigmund Freud's name was on the board, too.
@wayfa13
@wayfa13 2 года назад
@@flowingafterglow629 yeah but he was a hack, crazier than a handful of rats, and wanted to have sex with his mother
@YouMakeMyMotorRun
@YouMakeMyMotorRun 2 года назад
Cause it's easier to admit that than to read any course on European philosophy and suddenly realize that... oh, philosophy was a very Christian thingy for CENTURIES xD
@Gwyndolin-hk4ql
@Gwyndolin-hk4ql Год назад
@@YouMakeMyMotorRun The problem is, centuries of development in Christian philosophy, the development was quite limited. Thomas Aquinas was a good one, but that bunch of centuries couldn't even match the time from Kant to Hegel🥲. These 2 are "believers" but would have been hanged if they speak before enlightenment.
@somechinubankid1615
@somechinubankid1615 2 года назад
To be honest the most unbelievable part of this movie is the quality of these PowerPoint presentations
@crowdemon_archives
@crowdemon_archives 2 года назад
I guess you can say that the presentation can be so fucking animated is because he didn't spend time thinking about his actual argument in the first place.
@sayari2547
@sayari2547 Год назад
😂
@360.Tapestry
@360.Tapestry 3 года назад
they do a very good job recreating an introductory philosophy class where one or two students talk too much and nobody else has the confidence or care to join in
@crowdemon_archives
@crowdemon_archives 2 года назад
If that's the only relatively realistic part in the whole-arse movie, that's incredibly sad lmfao
@AV57
@AV57 2 года назад
Good observation!
@castrochris94
@castrochris94 2 года назад
Shit was so depressing in my ethics class lol. I just stopped showing up because it was me talking to the teacher
@LimeyLassen
@LimeyLassen 2 года назад
@@castrochris94 god this is so relatable
@joshelguapo5563
@joshelguapo5563 2 года назад
That's definitely a good point.
@ForeverTraitor
@ForeverTraitor 3 года назад
Christian persecution complex movies are depressingly successful.
@annaairahala9462
@annaairahala9462 3 года назад
This one recieved a lot of backlash, one of the lowest rated movies
@annaairahala9462
@annaairahala9462 3 года назад
@@DougBurgum4VP because its "christian message" is entirely flawed an laughable. If you're a christian I'd argue you should dislike movies like this because it gives the "christian message" a bad name
@an8strengthkobold360
@an8strengthkobold360 3 года назад
@@annaairahala9462 to be fair the message is basically: every non-Christian is bad.
@TravisHouze
@TravisHouze 3 года назад
@@DougBurgum4VP the difference is these “Christian” movies treat anyone who’s not a Christian as overly critical with Christianity when that’s not the case at all. Too much on the nose dialogue and just heard to view as a movie and more as a Christian prosecution complex. The antagonists have no nuance and God’s Not Dead is a prime factor
@annaairahala9462
@annaairahala9462 3 года назад
@@DougBurgum4VP it's not in any way similar to the semantic usage of justice and crime. You're talking about philosophy or theology vs that of language and usage, it's not the same thing at all
@GamingEmpire520
@GamingEmpire520 2 года назад
Professor: “I’m not going to waste my class time talking about the existence of god. Everyone admit he doesn’t exist.” Also professor, 5 seconds later: “what’s that? You can’t do it? Spend the entire semester teaching my class about god!”
@loturzelrestaurant
@loturzelrestaurant 2 года назад
I have the silly hobby to ask people on YT if they'd like some nice recommendations of any kind. Science-Channel may be my favorite thing to share, but that's not all, as i have kept my Interests and Hobbys very diversified for my whole, entire life. So i got all you can imagine (except Sports!)!
@ddjsoyenby
@ddjsoyenby 2 года назад
"i'm gonna bully this one student" "i could tell the dean what your doing, but i'll just do this instead"
@RanaltheBeetle
@RanaltheBeetle 2 года назад
First of all, it wasnt the entire semester. It was three days. Second of all, it wasnt entire class length per day, it was the last 20 minutes of each class length per day. In other words, the debate took place within the last 20 minutes of class time for three days straight.
@nenmaster5218
@nenmaster5218 2 года назад
Theres is a NEW God-has-no-HP-anymore Movie. Renegade Cut and other Atheist-RU-vidrs covered it. Beliefe It Or Not unfortunately hasnt, but oh well, his channel is still awesome.
@toaster4141
@toaster4141 2 года назад
God*
@AlanLiebheart
@AlanLiebheart 2 года назад
5:55 Not only this would never happen. The profesor who is a PHILOSOPHER used a wrong interpretation "God's is dead" does not mean what the profesor said. That phrase from Nietzsche is supposed to express his concern for humanity not having an objective morality due to distancing from God. It was ironically, a criticism to atheism.
@Ruosteinenknight
@Ruosteinenknight 2 года назад
That and Übermensch are the one what gets misunderstood most often.
@Ghi102
@Ghi102 2 года назад
Nietzsche is as easy to misunderstand as his name is hard to write on the first try (at least, for an English speaker). Will to power, God is dead, Ubermensch, I'm sure I'm forgetting other concepts that are misunderstood or have been deformed by multiple people over the years
@nenmaster5218
@nenmaster5218 2 года назад
@@Ruosteinenknight Theres is a NEW God-has-no-HP-anymore Movie. Renegade Cut and other Atheist-RU-vidrs covered it. Beliefe It Or Not unfortunately hasnt, but oh well, his channel is still awesome.
@Ruosteinenknight
@Ruosteinenknight 2 года назад
@@nenmaster5218 Yeah. "We the people". And only thing i'm positively surprised that despite the name, it isn't about promoting election fraud-conspiracies. Maybe they get there in a hypothetical fifth movie. "God's not dead 5: truth will set you free" or something like that.
@CsnvLsRnst
@CsnvLsRnst 2 года назад
I think It was a criticism of nihilism, rather than atheism itself. But yes, you're absolutely right. Radisson found his Philosophy degree in a cereal box.
@Sing4ever9
@Sing4ever9 3 года назад
The thing about this movie is that it portrays what evangelical Christians THINK is happening in universities and the big thing they think is happening is secular indoctrination. They deliberately skip the fact that this is not what university is for so that they can continue to have that antagonism towards critical thought. They do not see what THEY do as indoctrination.
@derekyonkers332
@derekyonkers332 3 года назад
No one in a group that’s very ensnared in the psychological phenomena of groupthink will see indoctrination as such
@tcarroll777
@tcarroll777 3 года назад
That's why I think some of these are the biggest cults. There are David Koresh types that have been treading the line just right.
@RickReasonnz
@RickReasonnz 3 года назад
God's Not Dead - Otherwise known as Strawman The Movie
@sebastianbass2219
@sebastianbass2219 3 года назад
you are correct. The problem with the Church today isn’t that there are outside forces that are corrupting youth into turning away from God, but the church is just failing in raising Christians in an actual faith.
@Evelyn_Okay
@Evelyn_Okay 3 года назад
It also scares parents out of sending their kids to a non-Christian college/university, therefore, continuing their cycle of bs
@Nicole-xd1uj
@Nicole-xd1uj 3 года назад
I'm fairly convinced that the lack of research done on this film was deliberate. It's a simplistic validation for a simplistic audience.
@couldntgetagoodname
@couldntgetagoodname 3 года назад
"Research" From the clips in this, it's clear that the filmmakers sat around a table and talked about what they *think* atheists say about them, and what they imagine a philosophy classroom is like
@allenjessica2203
@allenjessica2203 3 года назад
Hello Nicole
@ScubaSteve5
@ScubaSteve5 3 года назад
No cap detected
@gabbodelaparrawrites
@gabbodelaparrawrites 3 года назад
#facts I see no lies in your post! why does it rain? there's someone with a bucket up there, duh. 🤣🤣🤣
@raidermaxx2324
@raidermaxx2324 3 года назад
well i would argue that any christian (including those who made this movie) engage in the practice of lacking any research, in every aspect of their lives.
@Arkantolas
@Arkantolas 2 года назад
this movie should be renamed to "strawman: the movie" also yes please cover the other two i need this
@StarTrekLivz
@StarTrekLivz 2 года назад
Among the list of philosophers who believed in deity/deities: Socrates, Plato, Aristotle. Hard to teach an intro to philosophy class without mentioning them...
@wayfa13
@wayfa13 2 года назад
people aren't perfect, and they had a more limited understanding of the universe then than we do now so it can be forgiven. that being said, they had some great and forward thinking ideas despite their belief in deities. they're not like some religious folk who's only desires to drag us back into the dark ages because science baaaaaad, or to see the world go up in flames when they're raptured.
@Titan_TM
@Titan_TM 2 года назад
Late comment but they were all followers of hellenic paganism, it's not exactly the same as the Abrahamic god, the Greek gods were aspects of life, the ocean, the sky and War itself. They did believe in gods cause to the Greeks, the gods were just part of nature.
@Movel0
@Movel0 Год назад
@@wayfa13 That someone believed in God because 'they didn't know any better', is missing the point as much as this movie did. Congratulations.
@jonharrison9222
@jonharrison9222 Год назад
The ancient Greeks also studied their own shit to predict the future. Judging by the floor of the average pub toilet on a Sunday morning, the future looks a tad bleak.
@Seraph.G
@Seraph.G 3 года назад
The fact that the end of the movie is supposed to be a happy ending really reveals how morally bankrupt the film creators are.
@Chaosmancer7
@Chaosmancer7 3 года назад
Yes, this is the thing that sickens me, almost as much as the rest of the movie. "This is a good day." Is not how you describe killing a man with your car, unless you care more about converting an atheiest than human life.
@ShawnBirss
@ShawnBirss 3 года назад
@@Chaosmancer7 Holy fuck. The preachers are the ones that hit him? And they say it is a good day?
@Chaosmancer7
@Chaosmancer7 3 года назад
@@ShawnBirss Yep. Because a non-believer was converted to God... No consideration that they just killed him.
@ShawnBirss
@ShawnBirss 3 года назад
@@Chaosmancer7 omfg that's so fucking hateful. Most of this film is bad. That is downright evil.
@theknottygamerguy1466
@theknottygamerguy1466 3 года назад
Hey let’s try to convert this man and not try to save his life because reasons
@damonlongstreet8630
@damonlongstreet8630 3 года назад
The story made no scene, So the kid proves God exists by proving the antagonist isn't really an Atheist. Wat?
@tuffjiggly8566
@tuffjiggly8566 3 года назад
Don't you see? He really believed in God the whole time, he was just too angry at him to admit it. And he's the one saying God is dead, but he hates the one he's saying is dead so he can't be dead and therefore God is real. Doesn't it make sense to you? Yeah me neither. Honestly though I think the whole point of the film was just to say people who don't believe in God are either ignorant, irrational, or just angry that something bad happened to them
@flyingphoenix113
@flyingphoenix113 3 года назад
They did a bad job of trying to handle the problem of evil. The professor can absolutely be an atheist and simultaneously hate the concept of the Christian God. He can hate it for cultural reasons (inescapable references to and affirmations of "Christian values" in America), political reasons (the way religion invades American politics), etc. But, the film makes him out to be this weird satanic entity instead of an actual athiest.
@Jaspertine
@Jaspertine 3 года назад
​@@tuffjiggly8566 Yeah, that about sums it up. It's about making it seem like anyone who doesn't believe in God has strictly shallow and easily debunked reasoning behind their positions. I've met christians who are capable of putting forth intelligent and compelling arguments for their beliefs, but I've also met plenty who rely on these dumb, ready-made "gotcha" arguments, and argue under the assumption that the only reason you don't believe in God is because you haven't "really" thought about it.
@Shinkajo
@Shinkajo 3 года назад
Don't expect religion to make sense
@goldencalf13
@goldencalf13 3 года назад
While a lot of the logic in the movie is not great if you stuck it within a science class instead of a philosophy class it would make a lot more sense.
@petemccutchen3266
@petemccutchen3266 2 года назад
I’m a lifelong atheist- literally; I always thought it was obvious nonsense. But if one of my professors had tried to make me sign an atheist loyalty oath, I would have refused.
@bryantuttle8894
@bryantuttle8894 2 года назад
May God bless you with wisdom and understanding of the truth in Jesus name amen
@unknowndane4754
@unknowndane4754 2 года назад
@@bryantuttle8894 What? the apocalyptic preacher who pissed off people and got excecuted.
@jaclo3112
@jaclo3112 2 года назад
@@bryantuttle8894 What? the genocidal maniac in the bible who drowned toddlers and commanded his favourite people stab them to death so he could watch?
@mauchacon8471
@mauchacon8471 2 года назад
Yup same here. Also I would try to defend the existence of God cus I love to play devil's advocate. Also when the professor said he will give extra points to the guy that wrote "god" instead of "God", that was cringy
@BigJay039
@BigJay039 2 года назад
@@bryantuttle8894 Cool story, bro.
@jackbarman7063
@jackbarman7063 2 года назад
I literally majored in Philosophy and Secular Studies. My most openly atheist professor, the head of the department, was quite open and upfront with his personal positions but still had us read Christian and theistic writings and made damn sure discussion remained respectful in class. He wasn’t even a philosophy professor, but instead sociology. I have found most philosophy professors take great pains to try and avoid making their own positions influence how students think about issues. It’s because learning how to do philosophy is about the reasoning and argument and how you reach the conclusion, not just about the conclusion you reach.
@thrash208
@thrash208 3 года назад
The amount of times the professor would be fired or sued is just mind boggling.
@Ruosteinenknight
@Ruosteinenknight 2 года назад
The people who this movie is made for believe that places of learning are controlled by "cultural marxists" (What they try to say is "frankfurt school" or postmodernism. They've started to use now word "woke" instead) who are protected and enabled by the liberal cabal(also known as "new left" at times: when leftist speak about liberals, they mean neoliberals). Despite that majority of colleges and universities in US are leaning towards political center in studies. Hell, when asked about their campus climate, over half of conservative and liberal students responded that they are afraid of sharing their views due to backlash of their peers. That indicates that there's not so much organized persecution going on, but that both "sides" are just afraid of each other....which is kinda sad. Then again, they're so far right that "rule of law" sounds communist indoctrination, so logically they would think that anything not them = communist.
@andrewkolandjian9449
@andrewkolandjian9449 2 года назад
@@Ruosteinenknight wtf are you talking about. There are plenty of statistics and studies that show a slant in political leanings of professors, you're just being dishonest with yourself. Can you honestly tell me you've never had a liberal professor take a bit of class to rant about something? What about how speakers on campuses seem to be disproportionately shut down.
@Ruosteinenknight
@Ruosteinenknight 2 года назад
​@@andrewkolandjian9449 Aww, missed your crumb of opression this morning? Fear not, christmas is coming. You have plenty of opportunities to have a meltdowns when someone says "happy holidays." I could of course link studies that have concluded what I said, but you'd just call them "Fake, biased, communist" or then put some anecdotal drivel here as a counter-argument. So let's just skip that and go our separate ways, confident that the other one is wrong.
@lactobacillusprobiotic7029
@lactobacillusprobiotic7029 2 года назад
And half or most of the class would have dropped due to the professor going off topic for most of the class.
@wayfa13
@wayfa13 2 года назад
@@Ruosteinenknight based
@Alakaizer
@Alakaizer 3 года назад
For some reason, I feel the need to clarify that Professor Herculean Failure was a misotheist, not really an atheist.
@Extinctanimals22
@Extinctanimals22 3 года назад
Damn straight.
@feminico2613
@feminico2613 3 года назад
Ahh yes the Miso soup gods
@pabrielgomez8563
@pabrielgomez8563 3 года назад
Yeah, I agree as well.
@IceMetalPunk
@IceMetalPunk 3 года назад
@@feminico2613 I prefer the Macandcheesitheists.
@vee1267
@vee1267 3 года назад
IceMetalPunk on a related note, let us all take care not to confuse Macandcheesitheism with it’s more famous cousin Pastafarianism -The Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster
@LucAnderssen
@LucAnderssen 2 года назад
Normal decent human beings: hey, that guy was hit by a car lets call an ambulance right now! Christians in the movie: this guy is dying anyway lets force him to accept our savior since we belong to a death cult.
@Ruosteinenknight
@Ruosteinenknight 2 года назад
To be fair, they deducted (with x-ray vision, I guess) that he has sustained so bad injuries that he isn't going to make it. Still, telling a dying person that they should be happy that they're dying because they get now a "second chance" is pretty cold. It's even at best tone deaf and outright insane at worst. It doesn't help that one of the pastors afterwards cheerfully remarks that "today was a good day", making it look like they're dancing on his grave.
@hoppytoad79
@hoppytoad79 2 года назад
As a Christian, I was mentally screaming at that. HATED IT SO MUCH! I would've been doing first aid and working to save his life. That scene was HORRIBLE! Other Christians saw absolutely nothing wrong with it, which disgusted me. Hey-o, people, you can preach the Gospel to him AFTER SAVING HIS LIFE!
@zk5228
@zk5228 2 года назад
@@hoppytoad79 Seriously. I grew up in an evangelical church, then went to an Episcopal school, and lean more agnostic these days. That scene shocked me, because I can totally imagine my little evangelical self thinking of it as a happy ending. But to me now it's nauseating, and reads like a death cult indoctrination. I'm just glad this movie wasn't out when I was in middle school.
@lactobacillusprobiotic7029
@lactobacillusprobiotic7029 2 года назад
They also touched the dead professor’s phone which I’m pretty sure that’s tampering with a crime scene.
@hoppytoad79
@hoppytoad79 2 года назад
@@lactobacillusprobiotic7029 You're totally missing the point of the movie, which is GOD'S NOT DEAD! Who cares about tampering with crime scenes as long as God Wins and everyone sees that atheists are WRONGWRONGWRONG! /s Christian media in general is garbage, and I'm in a position to know--I'm a Christian. I get to hear all about it and if I want to consume any media that's faith-centered, there's a good chance what I'm watching or reading (the music's not terrible as long as you stick to a genere you like) will end up being so bad I'll either want to smash the TV/chuck it across the room, screaming.
@MarceloGarcia9
@MarceloGarcia9 2 года назад
“The characters are fictional, my rage is real”
@m_valentinee
@m_valentinee 3 года назад
Forced by a church that I went to as a kid to watch this film. They cried during it... As a 13 year old I felt cheated out of weekend morning cartoons.
@StephySon
@StephySon 3 года назад
You could’ve been watching KidsWB not some fucking propaganda
@francescoghizzo
@francescoghizzo 3 года назад
This is actual child abuse!!
@PaintedHoundie
@PaintedHoundie 3 года назад
I watched this with my family when I lived with my minister uncle, I was so disappointed in how comfortable they were with the movie. My mom legit thought the professor character was realistic because "but that's how it is!". Pretty sure she unironically thinks Atheists are just dummies who are lashing out at a bad thing that happened to them and blame god
@TomisaLami
@TomisaLami 3 года назад
And you were a kid. There are still adults who are impressed by this movie blows my mind
@joshwood944
@joshwood944 3 года назад
I watched this as a homeschooled pastor’s kid and remember having a lot of feelings about it. Then I went to college and got degrees in theology and philosophy and got really frustrated at my life up till then.
@manvslife271
@manvslife271 3 года назад
This is what happens when you think philosophy is just a bunch of "gotcha" moments like its social media instead of actual discussion
@BigBoss-sm9xj
@BigBoss-sm9xj 3 года назад
Yep surface level shit
@bernardoheusi6146
@bernardoheusi6146 3 года назад
@@DougBurgum4VP you are an imbecile
@nuclearcatbaby1131
@nuclearcatbaby1131 3 года назад
We don’t even get any actual discussion in college classes.
@mjz5254
@mjz5254 3 года назад
@@DougBurgum4VP Wow Mr. Edgelord here everyone watch the fuck out, don't get cut. My man is SHARP.
@arthurcleary6361
@arthurcleary6361 3 года назад
it is
@flameonyouyesyortube
@flameonyouyesyortube 2 года назад
As a Christian I really appreciated this review. When I first watched this movie I felt sick.
@jacknickels8341
@jacknickels8341 Год назад
my private christian school made my class watch this movie when we were in 7th grade. Honestly its disgusting to think about how they pushed this on us so young
@nukclear2741
@nukclear2741 Год назад
Honestly... I forgotten everything about it.
@siddhantbanerjee3328
@siddhantbanerjee3328 Год назад
I don't think its bad if you watch it the way this video presents it, where you discuss each of the points made in it. But yea if you were made to watch it as "an example of what is right" then its brainwashing
@Jackaldraws
@Jackaldraws Год назад
BRO SAME. That “how can you hate something that doesn’t exist“ line killed in my class, which is perfect because the whole movie feels like it was written by someone who only had middle school education
@royallebanini9375
@royallebanini9375 Год назад
Crazy coincidence my Catholic private school made us watch this during our Easter Class party. Like even then some of us called bullshit but can you imagine eating thinly sliced pizza from a napkin while a grown man fucking dies while his students boo him at a rock concert
@ayvi8850
@ayvi8850 3 года назад
A student sitting in the back: "Do we pay money for this? I just needed a humanities course for the semester!"
@thirdeyetwenty
@thirdeyetwenty 3 года назад
Another student sitting next to him: "I mean, an A for writing down 'God is dead' once? My pastor said he's jealous he never got such an easy GPA boost."
@anarchomando7707
@anarchomando7707 3 года назад
Fuckit I'll do anything to get a better grade
@gremlinfifty2308
@gremlinfifty2308 3 года назад
So no actual reading where do i sign up.
@richardarriaga6271
@richardarriaga6271 3 года назад
Be a troll and sign on Good Friday 😉
@ian6303
@ian6303 3 года назад
I think "both professor big penis, and josh are bad at philosophy" is one of my favorite quotes of all time
@MirekHeikkila
@MirekHeikkila 3 года назад
'philosophy ,it's dead. why does he still have a job...
@fred2411
@fred2411 3 года назад
It could be a franchise. A sort of bizarro Rick and Morty.
@BillAbendroth
@BillAbendroth 2 года назад
@@fred2411 You da man, Fred! Professor Hercules and Josh, as a spiritual bizaro Rick & Morty.... Yelling at each other, insulting each other.... I'd totally watch that.
@wesmahan4757
@wesmahan4757 2 года назад
Oh shit. As an ex-evangelical of 46 years and ex-missionary in Europe (and now atheist), this movie "God's Not Dead" seems to encapsulate all the brain-dead world-view that I used to embrace. Thanks Wisecrack for your accurate analysis. I just subscribed to your channel.
@bryantuttle8894
@bryantuttle8894 2 года назад
Just remember Jesus is the author and finisher of ur faith. Sorry to hear u have fallen from grace. May God bless you with wisdom and understanding and shower u in His love that passes knowledge in Jesus name amen
@RafaelRodrigues-rx9ry
@RafaelRodrigues-rx9ry 2 года назад
Congratulations, sir. Welcome to the free thinking community.
@wayfa13
@wayfa13 2 года назад
@@bryantuttle8894 I'm sorry to hear your brain fell out of your head, hope you get well soon. the fact is that he exercised his own wisdom and understanding, and that's how he got himself out of that evangelical cult nonsense.
@bryantuttle8894
@bryantuttle8894 2 года назад
@@wayfa13 cult??? I just don't want to burn in hell for denying what Christ did. People like u would cry getting beat up lol how r u going to handle Hell. Fact is everyone needs Jesus just some won't realize until ur all alone, nobody to help, Lord willing it's before judgment
@YouMakeMyMotorRun
@YouMakeMyMotorRun 2 года назад
@@bryantuttle8894 Realizing that zealotry, paranoia, blind faith and a violent/condescending disposition towards any person that doesn't think exactly like you is bad does not necessarily mean that you'll reject Jesus, God or Christianity as a whole... Just saying
@guardianoftheledge4966
@guardianoftheledge4966 11 месяцев назад
Love the inclusion of a "Because singing killed my grandma!" scene.
@animeveteran
@animeveteran 3 года назад
The "all atheists are just mad at God" stance is so irritating. As if there's no other possible reason for someone to just choose a different set of beliefs. Edit: No, please don't subject yourself to the sequels. Please. For your own sake.
@s.l.3281
@s.l.3281 3 года назад
As someone who has trouble believing in god, I can say that the biggest detractor for me are the believers, not god itself.
@turtlezinthesky
@turtlezinthesky 3 года назад
Atheism =/= misotheism
@stephenschiffman5940
@stephenschiffman5940 3 года назад
Exactly. These types of movies ignore all of the valid reasons not to believe in God (especially not to believe in the Judeo-Christian God specifically) in favor of "If God is real, why did my dog die?"
@NobodyC13
@NobodyC13 3 года назад
There's also a reoccurring problem within fundamentalist communities for believing that being a Christian is the only valid way to have a moral code. They assume being atheist is shorthand for being a sociopath. It never occurs to them that other people could belong to other faiths and still share their idea of right and wrong, or that while an atheist might not believe in God or an afterlife they still believe all life is worth preserving or protecting.
@alynames7171
@alynames7171 3 года назад
This was my first time being exposed to that particular argument, but I was struck by how similar it sounds to the, "people who are angry about wealth inequality are just jealous" shtick. Coincidence?
@wildhias6195
@wildhias6195 3 года назад
Hercules literally starts his philosophy class with an argument from authority: those smart guys didnt believe in God therfore God does not exist
@dahlrjay63
@dahlrjay63 3 года назад
* Philosophical cringe *
@Nerdsammich
@Nerdsammich 3 года назад
It really tells on the filmmakers and what they think a convincing argument looks like, doesn't it?
@sherrianbriscoe2231
@sherrianbriscoe2231 3 года назад
God does exist
@allenjessica2203
@allenjessica2203 3 года назад
@@Nerdsammich hello
@allenjessica2203
@allenjessica2203 3 года назад
@@sherrianbriscoe2231 hello
@agathabooks9578
@agathabooks9578 2 года назад
I am a progressive Christian and I am writing a theological review on Christian propaganda. Thank you for your insight.
@michaal105
@michaal105 9 месяцев назад
Hi. What is a 'progressive' Christian?
@elise2892
@elise2892 8 месяцев назад
@@michaal105Hi! Not the original commenter, but figured I may as well answer anyway. As a progressive Christian (Well, Catholic for me) I believe that my progressive and Christian values can coexist. For example, I fight for LGBT and trans rights despite them not often being defended by many Christians. This probably wasn’t the best explaination and I’m certainly no philosopher, but I hoped that might help.
@michaal105
@michaal105 8 месяцев назад
@@elise2892 Ok but how can you do that when in 1 Corinthians 6:9 God says persons who practice homosexuality won't inherit the kingdom of God, in Romans chapter 1 He calls homosexual sex shameful and in Leviticus 20:13 God calls is 'detestable'? Do you honestly believe the words of God approve of progressive values? That they approve of homosexuality?
@TheForceApplied
@TheForceApplied 2 года назад
"I wonder what's God's GPA?" I shouldn't have taken a sip right then.
@KittySnicker
@KittySnicker 3 года назад
This should be called “That Happened: The Movie.” Also the sentence “God is dead” sounds like an admission that he was once alive and therefore existed.
@astaroththedaeva9717
@astaroththedaeva9717 3 года назад
If I remember correctly, Nietzsche was specifically addressing the death of morality by equating it to god. I am a bit rusty so I may be wrong. But yeah.
@reuteratwork8983
@reuteratwork8983 3 года назад
Well, except Prof Hercules explained that, in the clip they used in this vid -- so...no...
@KarlSnarks
@KarlSnarks 3 года назад
"And then everyone clapped: The Movie"
@BygoneT
@BygoneT 3 года назад
@@astaroththedaeva9717 That's correct. Even if god exists, it doesn't matter if we're under assault by numerous more attractive values, and the chaos resulting from this situation is the focus here. We'll never get enough water to wash away the blood, is also what Nietzsche said.
@RosesAndIvy
@RosesAndIvy 3 года назад
Yeah they conveniently left out the second part of the quote: "God is dead. ...And we have killed him".
@nietzschesghost8529
@nietzschesghost8529 3 года назад
As a philosophy professor, I use this movie to construct my entire syllabus, which consists solely of Richard Dawkins and 75 different renditions of the problem of evil argument. I make all my students register Democrat. And for extra credit, I have my students drive slow on the roads on Sundays to make Christians late for church.
@JebeckyGranjola
@JebeckyGranjola 3 года назад
Username checks out.
@anarchomando7707
@anarchomando7707 3 года назад
If I didn't know any better it would be karl Marx
@hobbitjaffa
@hobbitjaffa 3 года назад
@@anarchomando7707 Karl Marx is left, he would never support the neoliberal democrat pieces of shit
@royaltyblessed2454
@royaltyblessed2454 3 года назад
As a Christian, I really pray this is a trolling post because if it is real then man I really pray for you that we are that much on your mind buddy. Peace and love mate.
@bigmanbarry2299
@bigmanbarry2299 3 года назад
@@royaltyblessed2454 Hes not joking. They literally use bibles as toilet paper as a hazing technique in the university he teaches
@rhinotheory9801
@rhinotheory9801 2 года назад
I have always found it interesting that they chose philosophy class for this movie not biology or geology… I can’t possibly imagine why that would be!
@sapphireriddles6692
@sapphireriddles6692 Год назад
Im super late to the party, i know. While i have zero confidence the movie writers were actually smart enough to consider this, those wouldnt work because biology and geology dont disprove god anymore than god invalidates them. Science is the study of the natural, physical world. It cant examine the supernatural, which is the category god would fall under. Science can neither prove nor disprove god due to each's own nature. On the other side of the coin, the existence of god or any supernatural does not make our physical world some kind of falsehood. Philosophy is Not a study of the natural physical world. You can't put philosophy through the scientific method. Like theology, it's not a science. This makes the two compatible to go head to head - if that's something you want to spend time on.
@erichenningfeld
@erichenningfeld Год назад
Imagine my horror watching this movie with my old youth group after completing intro to philosophy and philosophy of religion in colleges. I wanted to die the whole time.
@JackSmith-ns1uq
@JackSmith-ns1uq 3 года назад
As a Christian, The worst part for me was him insisting that "God needs me to defend him". Yes, the God of the universe needs you to defend him in your college class. 🤦🏽‍♀️... I'm fully aware that some people do think like this.
@arlenlucrezia6287
@arlenlucrezia6287 3 года назад
We are to always defend our Faith and defend the NAME of GOD when someone tries to diminish or slander it, which is what the Philosophy teacher was doing. What the young man did in the movie was exactly what GOD wanted him to do. To defend his Faith in GOD. This has been done in SCRIPTURE itself an example being with the disciples in the Book of Acts. When the governors commanded them to stop preaching about JESUS, they defended their Faith and said we are to obey GOD rather than men. "Paul practiced what he preached; in fact, defending the faith was his regular activity (Philippians 1:7). He refers to apologetics as an aspect of his mission in the same passage (v.16). He also made apologetics a requirement for church leadership in Titus 1:9. Jude, an apostle of Jesus, wrote that "although I was very eager to write to you about the salvation we share, I felt I had to write and urge you to contend for the faith that was once for all entrusted to the saints” (v.3)." -- 1 Peter 3:15 - But sanctify the Lord God in your hearts: and [be] ready always to [give] an answer to every man that asketh you a reason of the hope that is in you with meekness and fear: 2 Tim. 4:1-6 I charge [thee] therefore before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, who shall judge the quick and the dead at his appearing and his kingdom; Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine. For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away [their] ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables. But watch thou in all things, endure afflictions, do the work of an evangelist, make full proof of thy ministry. For I am now ready to be offered, and the time of my departure is at hand. Titus 1:9 - Holding fast the faithful word as he hath been taught, that he may be able by sound doctrine both to exhort and to convince the gainsayers
@mistertea603
@mistertea603 3 года назад
He is literally White Knighting God...
@arlenlucrezia6287
@arlenlucrezia6287 3 года назад
@@mistertea603 No, he was showing and having reverence for GOD. No true Christian would sit through a class where a teacher slanders the LORD and trashes HIS NAME. They would speak up or walk out. That's all, not caring about a grade. We defend the Gospel as we are commanded and we will defend our Faith in HE that is our LORD.
@mistertea603
@mistertea603 3 года назад
@@arlenlucrezia6287 I'm not attacking you, or your faith.
@mistertea603
@mistertea603 3 года назад
It was fully a joke Flaming, I grew up in the Baptist faith, and I recognized the call to action that most Christians take upon themselves. And then belittled it... Was it unfair? Perhaps, and if it was I'm sorry...
@companyincorporatedproduct4335
@companyincorporatedproduct4335 3 года назад
"Why do you hate goldfish? "Because they took everything from me!"
@proctorritter5176
@proctorritter5176 3 года назад
“Yes! I hate goldfish! All I have for them is hate!”
@user-cm9ch7qe4w
@user-cm9ch7qe4w 3 года назад
Oh yes, those snacks are amazing~
@jamesparson
@jamesparson 3 года назад
F’ing goldfish
@hughjanos3992
@hughjanos3992 3 года назад
"how can you hate somefish if it doesn't exist"
@torres4148
@torres4148 2 года назад
i find it kind of odd that there is 100% student engagement in the class, usually there is at least 2-3 students falling asleep or not paying attention or texting
@samuelbedsole5089
@samuelbedsole5089 2 года назад
Before I went to college i actually thought this film actually made sense. Then when I went to college and took a critical thinking course I finally saw the slew of fallacies and mistakes presented throughout, not to mention how unrealistic it depicts college.
@DissectingThoughts
@DissectingThoughts 3 года назад
The closest thing to a teacher behaving like Prof. Hercules I ever encountered doing my philosophy degree was a Christian teacher. And he wasn't even that bad. I had lots of atheist teachers. All of them refused to discuss their personal beliefs in the class-room, but told students who asked to come see them after class if they really wanted to talk about it.
@VikingNewt
@VikingNewt 2 года назад
i went to school in the uk and it took me four years to figure out my politics teacher, and a similar length of time for my exphil. they were utterly dedicated to the idea of letting us make up our own minds on the evidences and discussions. i found out how both of them were inclined the day after i left the school and met them in the pub, we all sat til closing :)
@heehooligan
@heehooligan 3 года назад
I have family that love this movie and genuinely believe in the arguments therein. It concerns me deeply.
@inc3000
@inc3000 3 года назад
Yeah, That's Pretty Responsible. I suggest showing them "The Good Place"
@thecoolaxolotlnova8523
@thecoolaxolotlnova8523 3 года назад
You have family that are unintelligent lol
@willscott8923
@willscott8923 3 года назад
Omg same I feel you and my grandma won't watch The Good Place lol
@inc3000
@inc3000 3 года назад
@@willscott8923 Because in the first 5 minutes Michael said "every religion guessed about 5%" ?
@willscott8923
@willscott8923 3 года назад
@@inc3000 that's one reason she won't watch the show, another is that there is a romance between a white woman and black man and she won't like that
@ALE-of4vk
@ALE-of4vk 2 года назад
I used to consider myself a conservative when I was in college, but lately the phrase "conservative thought" has really become a oxymoron. This movie is what you call a straw-man argument where you argue vehemently against a position NO ONE is actually taking. Of course, you can neither prove nor disprove the existence of God, and all Professor Hercules is going to accomplish is to get really bad student evaluations at the end of the semester (I hope he is already tenured). This movie is laughable, but it also encourages young conservatives and religious types to not attend what they THINK is college. The result is an ignorant, resentful AND socioeconomically disadvantaged underclass. And why? What I learned from intro to philosophy was about all the geniuses of the past that DID nevertheless believe in God (Descartes, Kant, Kirkegaard, Adam Smith). It's actually movies like this that have driven me toward atheism,
@Xiassen
@Xiassen 2 года назад
Wouldn't it be delicious if the whole dramatic feud was set up as a test to see if Josh read his very first assignment?
@777SilverPhoenix777
@777SilverPhoenix777 Год назад
that certainly would have been better however give that the professor didn't even teach anything in class it was kinda hard to make an argument of should have read this huge book before next class LOL. the narrative structure needed MAJOR overhauls.
@cs3705
@cs3705 3 года назад
My favorite part is when the guy is laying in the street, clearly in need of medical attention, but instead just gets harassed by some priests in his final moments.
@entarochrist3927
@entarochrist3927 3 года назад
They weren’t even priests. But I get your point. XD
@couldntgetagoodname
@couldntgetagoodname 3 года назад
Right? They're like, "F**k a doctor, get a Christian"
@Toviyah
@Toviyah 3 года назад
@@couldntgetagoodname I think bringing someone to God is better than letting them die and go to eternal damnation
@couldntgetagoodname
@couldntgetagoodname 3 года назад
@@Toviyah conversely, seeking medical attention might keep them with the living, to allow them to come to that decision without the fear of death facing them 🤷🏻‍♂️
@Toviyah
@Toviyah 3 года назад
@@couldntgetagoodname I guess so
@sebastianesilva398
@sebastianesilva398 3 года назад
Spoiler alert: the Angry Atheist™ character isn't even an atheist as it turns out.
@jamesmason7979
@jamesmason7979 3 года назад
That was one of the film's greatest fails. In this "debate" of Christianity versus atheism, there was no one there that actually represented atheism.
@ajburgess6843
@ajburgess6843 3 года назад
It seems like every time that dude is in a Christian film, he plays the same character.
@chrissnyder4439
@chrissnyder4439 3 года назад
Of course he isn't. I can't imagine an atheist being in a movie to promote Christianity, nor would one purposefully misrepresent what an atheist typically is.
@lysanamcmillan7972
@lysanamcmillan7972 3 года назад
There are people who profess atheism but practice anti-monotheism instead. Fighting what doesn't exist means you give the non-existent credence, the last I checked. And that's the sort of "atheist" who argues with the Christians who care to do so online every time the chance exists. I used to read FARK when those threads opened up eating virtual popcorn because the arguments never changed. (I'm a polytheist who agrees with Hume's statement about the divine being beyond human cognition to understand or define, let alone prove. This is why I find absolutists bickering about it really funny.)
@b2gills
@b2gills 3 года назад
@@chrissnyder4439 Sebastian meant that the character isn't an atheist.
@ceceburns9787
@ceceburns9787 2 года назад
I was at a sleepover once where my friends dad found out I didn’t believe in God and then he made us watch this movie in an attempt to convert me lol
@aswfabt
@aswfabt 2 года назад
lol sleepover ruined
@maxanderson9293
@maxanderson9293 2 года назад
My man, that not a sleep over anymore its an attempted crossover
@stiimuli
@stiimuli 2 года назад
A relative of mine said of this movie "but its just a feel-good story". I have to wonder if he was on some serious drugs or just watched a different movie by mistake O_o
@wayfa13
@wayfa13 2 года назад
religion is helluva drug
@spacecat8511
@spacecat8511 Год назад
Eyeeahhhhh…feel good story for who exactly. I haven’t been made to watch this movie in years by church members but like. Literally everyone who isn’t Culturally White Male Evangelical gets mocked and either infantilized or brutalized. Then ends with a dance party on a guy’s grave with everyone so smiley about it.
@GoFidoGo
@GoFidoGo 3 года назад
Hercules is mad at dad.
@hemidas
@hemidas 3 года назад
Kratos: "That's cute, kid!"
@richardlegrand4697
@richardlegrand4697 3 года назад
@@hemidas Frankenstein's monster has entered the chat.
@DeconvertedMan
@DeconvertedMan 3 года назад
Zeus is a better God then yahweh :D
@aramwatters
@aramwatters 3 года назад
HAAAA!!!!!!! 😆😆😆
@exceedcharge1
@exceedcharge1 3 года назад
@@DeconvertedMan The only thing zeus is better at is being a dad
@blakemeads9225
@blakemeads9225 3 года назад
If my philosophy professor in college pulled half of the shit Sorbo’s character does in this movie, he’d be out on his ass so quick, it’d make his head spin.
@seangeiger45
@seangeiger45 3 года назад
@@DougBurgum4VP Tenure will not save you from physically assaulting students or threatening their academic progress.
@mirzaghalib8659
@mirzaghalib8659 3 года назад
Blaaaaake
@victoriaashley3216
@victoriaashley3216 2 года назад
I had a Christian roommate try to make me watch this movie after I told her I was agnostic. The girl would constantly send me clips of the film as a way to try to convince me and would bring it up often even though I'd avoid talking about religion with her. I actually watched a Pureflix movie with her and her Christian friends when I first moved in and so when I told her my beliefs I guess she just couldn't believe it. She told me that people like me who lack religious (specifically Christian) beliefs do not know right from wrong and she was surprised because I seemed so kind. Needless to say, I had a very toxic experience living with her because she wouldn't give it up, and she was very offended when I tried to make some boundaries. I have no problem at all with people being religious or following a religion, and it makes me happy if someone close to me really feels like they have a connection or if they feel better with God or some other religious figure in their life. But, to have someone imply to me that I'm not a good person and that I lack a moral compass based on the sole fact that I'm not particularly religious is ridiculous. It's something that I just won't tolerate. This girl was also a major bully in our apartment, so I feel like she never practiced what she preached. She was always making her best friend (who is also Christian) cry all the time. I know that she is not representative of every Christian - her friend actually became a friend of mine and was very open and accepting - but it was a really bad experience.
@jonharrison9222
@jonharrison9222 Год назад
American, I take it?
@JL_Lux
@JL_Lux 9 месяцев назад
Not surprised she also was a bully.
@Uhsnuh
@Uhsnuh 8 месяцев назад
In college when I was taking a chemistry lab class where we were split into different groups. My group was very nice and we got along well, until they brought up what denomination of christianity they all were started talking about it excitedly like schoolgirls. When it got to me I was honest and told them I wasn't really religious. They immediately ostracised me and ignored me for the rest of the class. It was insane lol
@macysondheim
@macysondheim 5 месяцев назад
The reason Atheists don't believe the gospel is not a cognitive problem, it is a spiritual one - “They are spiritually blind” (John 3:3). In other words, it isn't a rational decision they make, it is an emotional choice: they don't want God to exist. But they know he exists and hold the truth in unrighteousness - “They live in denial of reality” (Romans 1:18-22).✝️☦️
@jessemiller4953
@jessemiller4953 2 года назад
as someone who has attended one singular semester of philosophy, the premise of this movie actually killed me. I am dead now because of how stupid this was.
@bryantuttle8894
@bryantuttle8894 2 года назад
Well May God help you in Jesus name amen. Because if u truly die without accepting Jesus u will go to Hell.
@wayfa13
@wayfa13 2 года назад
@@bryantuttle8894 are you brain dead or smth? what the fuck is your problem telling ppl they're going to hell. religion is like a penis, most people have one but nobody wants them waving around in public. keep it in your pants, fkn psycho.
@LightsOnTrees
@LightsOnTrees 3 года назад
Wow Mike is really carrying the team since Jared left. Much respect man.
@AnyaSavina1994
@AnyaSavina1994 3 года назад
Why did he leave?
@LightsOnTrees
@LightsOnTrees 3 года назад
@@AnyaSavina1994 We don't really know outside of the short message he gave, is probably still in there video history. I think things just changed for him and something moved in a different direction.
@juanandrade2998
@juanandrade2998 3 года назад
That's sad, Jared may be one of the founders of the interesting side of youtube. The guy made those days bearable, him with wisecrack, 8bit philosophy, every frame a painting and Lessons from screenplay where the ones that gave youtube some value during that time.
@smatt7771
@smatt7771 3 года назад
@@juanandrade2998 ......Jared? Did you mean Jared?
@juanandrade2998
@juanandrade2998 3 года назад
@@smatt7771 ahahaha... yes Jared... Dont know why I said Josh.. lol So influential i couldn't even get his name right.
@bryand1182
@bryand1182 3 года назад
This movie has nothing to do with Philosophy - it's about reveling in the Christian persecution fantasy. Trying to evaluate it's philosophical significance does it too great a service.
@monoclesquid9667
@monoclesquid9667 3 года назад
@@DougBurgum4VP what are your thoughts on alden’s number?
@TAP7a
@TAP7a 3 года назад
@@DougBurgum4VP people are exactly as harsh on the movie as the movie deserves, which is absolute evisceration for being trash just like all the other Lifetime and Hallmark garbage. Except these ones also have the potential to have actual consequences beyond helping middle class straight white American women pass the time, such as attacking the separation of church and state, encouraging policy decisions to lean more towards an increasingly committed bloc of evangelical voters in Electoral-College-vote-efficient states, literally endangers gay people, trans people and people with alternative religions in regions with the highest concentrations of the most militant (and therefore most receptive to these movies) evangelists, so if anything these movies deserve an even greater degree of explicit rejection and tearing apart.
@Buglin_Burger7878
@Buglin_Burger7878 3 года назад
"the study of the fundamental nature of knowledge, reality, and existence, especially when considered as an academic discipline." It is the study of the reality and existence of persecution fantasy put into a movie. The philosophy of the movie.
@utubepunk
@utubepunk 3 года назад
@@monoclesquid9667 Professor Vaush B. would like to see you after class.
@Shinkajo
@Shinkajo 3 года назад
@@DougBurgum4VP Kevin Sorbo believes in the persecution myth. That's why he is making shit like this. He is pretty hardcore Christian and right-winger. This movie has a real agenda behind it.
@StealthMarmot_
@StealthMarmot_ Год назад
In fairness, the professor is Hercules and the God of Hercules is Zeus and hating him is pretty understandable
@gustavlarsson7494
@gustavlarsson7494 2 года назад
Saying "That's an argument for God" carries absolutely no weight at all if the argument is fallacious.
@TylerJBrown192
@TylerJBrown192 3 года назад
A Philosopher Reacts to "Gilmore Girls" next, please!
@Shinkajo
@Shinkajo 3 года назад
So straight men actually watch that? Or am I confusing Gilmore Girls with Gossip Girl?
@heartpng
@heartpng 3 года назад
@@Shinkajo fellas, is it gay to watch tv shows with female main characters?
@ta.barbaro1952
@ta.barbaro1952 3 года назад
That would be an improvement.
@sebastian1236669
@sebastian1236669 3 года назад
Yes please! Gilmore Girls is my favorite show of all time and I would love an episode about it! I think a dive into the minds of the Emily, Lorelai, Rory, and most importantly Paris would be fascinating!
@ttt3377
@ttt3377 3 года назад
@@Shinkajo [[
@shaunmorrison6448
@shaunmorrison6448 3 года назад
The real message is that if you diss god, he's gonna take you out.
@RandomPersonProbably
@RandomPersonProbably 3 года назад
Why do you think the dinosaurs went extinct? They dissed god one too many times
@ussinussinongawd516
@ussinussinongawd516 2 года назад
@@RandomPersonProbably dinosaur dissy make god mcpissy
@rattian1976
@rattian1976 2 года назад
God can take me out to dinner any time
@gkarak1996
@gkarak1996 2 года назад
@@RandomPersonProbably he sent a meteorite to spin the flat earth and throw them out of it
@melon3860
@melon3860 2 года назад
@@gkarak1996 nah the impact that the meteorite made fling all the dinosaurs out of earth like the food you knocked over when you were small
@albeon_draken
@albeon_draken 2 года назад
The closest thing I saw to Prof. Hercules' diatribe in college was in my Evolution class. The professor just said that it was a class on science, not theology, and we had a tight syllabus, so religious creation narratives would not be discussed or debated. Fairly reasonable given the focus of the class.
@shillinhite3911
@shillinhite3911 Год назад
Sounds like that prof had gone through some shit in the past of people trying him XD
@albeon_draken
@albeon_draken Год назад
@@shillinhite3911 Yeah, and some shit still wound up coming up during class, particularly around human evolution. Funnily enough, it wasn't even evangelicals doing it. It was two Hindu girls. My university has a reputation for being extremely diverse and very unfriendly to conservatism, so the Christian wingnuts just stay away.
@mkjirak
@mkjirak Год назад
I actually did my final project on A Brief History of Time by parsing it through a philosophical lens rather than scientific. I probably didn't do it very well, but I learned a lot about how I think.
@sierrafarnum9689
@sierrafarnum9689 3 года назад
I remember watching this at 14 (forced to by parents) and at a certain point I got so mad at how stupid it was that I walked out of the theater. My Christian sister went after me and asked why I was upset, we talked about the arguments in this movie and things past it, we got so wrapped up we left the theater so we wouldn't be forced to go home, and after a few hours my sister became an agnostic. Which is funny bc this movie was supposed to make people Christian and it did the opposite...
@gonebye7109
@gonebye7109 3 года назад
Well its already sad that a whole movie defined 'christianity' for you all. But you guys do you.
@jessicahardacre6035
@jessicahardacre6035 3 года назад
It's a good movie the existence of God is out there or the proof of Gods existence is out there
@sierrafarnum9689
@sierrafarnum9689 3 года назад
@@gonebye7109 lol. I highly doubt I've been exposed to less Christianity than you, I've yet to meet someone who lived in a stronger religious environment. Have you read the Bible front to back with an open mind yet?
@gonebye7109
@gonebye7109 3 года назад
@@sierrafarnum9689 Ive read certain parts of the bible, some parts open minded, other parts not much. But overall my comment was referring to the part you said "Which is funny bc this movie was supposed to make people Christian and it did the opposite" You shouldnt let a movie do that to you. You can question Christianity, I question it myself too, but I ask others who know bout it more so I could gain some answer. Goodnight.
@sierrafarnum9689
@sierrafarnum9689 3 года назад
​@@gonebye7109 Did you think I was a Christian before I watched the movie and I watched it and just spontaneously changed my mind and never thought about it again? The comment was a joke referring to how it was a discussion opener for me and my sister which led her to become an agnostic. I started doubting Christianity when I saw a brain at 12-13 which led me to learn about cognitive bias which led me to learn about fallacies which led me to learn about how children believed whatever their families told them which led me to read books from both sides and study every day for years and most importantly actually read the bible front to back. It's not like I saw a brain and was like "yep, not a Christian anymore, that's all I need to know". (Btw the fact that you haven't read the bible isn't surprising, it's a fan of child sacrifice and slavery and genocide and misogyny etc.). Also, no one decides to be gay. I'm pickin up some homophobe vibes, which isn't surprising lol.
@SuddenJeff
@SuddenJeff 3 года назад
Seems like the thesis of the movie is "Don't send your kids to a secular college... They'll indoctrinate the Christianity out of them!"
@kittygrimm7301
@kittygrimm7301 3 года назад
Unless, of course, they're strong enough to stand up to the secular system and defend God.
@danielghirghi3958
@danielghirghi3958 3 года назад
the classic conspiracy of "everyone who is smarter than me is trying to destroy me"
@murraybeachtel8585
@murraybeachtel8585 3 года назад
I went to a Christian college and my parents think I am a heathen because it challenged and evolved my beliefs. My wife went there as well and worked the call desk hearing from parents saying our school “ruined” their kids. Like, all our college did was teach us how to digest information to make our own decisions. We came out still Christian, but anything but a dumbed down version of it like reflected in God’s Not Dead isn’t accepted by many. So sometimes even the religious schools are not good enough haha. I went to a small college called Messiah University if you want to look it up. Overall I was happy to have went there, but still learn how to think for myself and to respect people that think differently than me.
@b2gills
@b2gills 3 года назад
@@murraybeachtel8585 Now imagine if you were an atheist where you are actually persecuted. People have been fired for coming out as atheist. Children have been kicked out of their homes for coming out as atheist. Children have been yelled at and punished by teachers and principals for coming out as atheist. Now me as an atheist, I think that you stopped halfway on your journey. (Sort of how you would feel about a child that doesn't believe in Santa, but still believes in the Easter Bunny.) I also feel for your situation. The quickest way to make your parents see you the way they once did is to pretend to be someone you're not. Which is not healthy way to live. You may be able to improve your situation though. Ask them to tell you the exact requirements to get into heaven. Continue to ask them questions about their beliefs until they accept you for who you are.
@kellybrown849
@kellybrown849 2 года назад
I love how I got an ad for the most recent “God’s Not Dead” movie on this video
@jayaom4946
@jayaom4946 Год назад
Narcissists don't suddenly confess personal stories and feelings when someone (who is like an enemy) suddenly asks "what happened to you?". The narcissist would likely just assume you were saying something is wrong with them and insist "nothing happened to me!" Josh does what the narc would be afraid of, he uses that personal information against him in front of all his students. 🙄
@brianharper1611
@brianharper1611 Год назад
I haven't seen the movie, but narcissism is a spectrum with the most extreme being narcissistic personality disorder. So saying there are no narcissistic people who would do what the professor does isn't necessarily true, just perhaps not generally true.
@nadiacalembe1546
@nadiacalembe1546 3 года назад
I mean even in my high school philosophy classes we would discuss God, philosophy, and its relation to theology. I remember at the time I was the only atheist in the class, and we had this whole discussion about why we each believed the things we did and how we could prove it. It was very interesting, especially because I was the only atheist, also the only foreigner, and the only black student. I think that the environment that my teacher created in which we could discuss our beliefs so freely and without judgment, he even said he expected more atheists, really created in me a lasting love for philosophy and respect for people's beliefs.
@bryantuttle8894
@bryantuttle8894 2 года назад
May God bless you with wisdom and understanding that He loves you in Jesus name amen
@jaredgreathouse3672
@jaredgreathouse3672 2 года назад
I'm 24 now. For 2 years in high school, as an IB student, I took courses in Theory of Knowledge. We discussed PLENTY of shit like this. I'm certain I was the only open atheist in my class. I had a teacher, cool guy, named Mr. Noonan. He's.... Presbyterian, if I recall correctly. But if you were in class, you pretty much would never know it. He let us take the reigns and handle the discussion amongst ourselves, assuming we did the readings, that is. I'm not a fan of religion. At their core, I think religion is pretty stupid, actually. But I didn't come to that conclusion by irrational, personal beliefs, I came to it as an empiricism. Movies like this don't suck because its politics suck, movies like this suck because the creators are obviously so far up their own ass it's beyond being funny.
@rembrandt972ify
@rembrandt972ify 2 года назад
@@jaredgreathouse3672 I disagree. I never studied anything like the Theory of the Big Know-Knows, yet the reason this movie blows goats has nothing to do with the fact that the creators are obviously so far up their own ass. The reason this movie is so ridiculously stupid is because the creators pandered to a target audience with the mental agility of a roofing tile. The secret of wealth and power in the post-millennial U.S. appears to be sowing hatred and distrust of any out-group you can find. This was a low-budget means of targeting the gullible with an over 2000% return on the investment. If that leads to more distrust in our society, who cares? You should never trust the out-group, if they weren't evil, they'd be in the in-group. I'm probably wrong about this, I'm just an idiot who likes to voice my opinion.
@jaredgreathouse3672
@jaredgreathouse3672 2 года назад
@@rembrandt972ify I mean I agree with you, but how is being far up their ass very much different from pandering to an audience with a room temp IQ? I mean I guess they can be mutually exclusive, but I imagine they often go together
@matthewoehler2472
@matthewoehler2472 3 года назад
Seriously, I clicked into this and got my first Pureflix ad. ever, let's hope it doesn't keep
@sw0rdf1sh2326
@sw0rdf1sh2326 3 года назад
Same, then an ad for Epoch Times pushing a "Corona was a Chinese Communist Party inside job" theory
@e.lycopersicon9720
@e.lycopersicon9720 3 года назад
Install an ad-blocker and throw some cheddar at your favorite content creators.
@devonmurden4724
@devonmurden4724 3 года назад
Do they all star the same guy? Lol I just got a pureflix ad too for a completely different movie but the star was still the professor
@Goodbrew84
@Goodbrew84 3 года назад
I hear Hell is just a room where the only thing you have to do is watch Pureflix.
@hernans901
@hernans901 3 года назад
Mine closed with a PragerU ad.
@AlbinoCrow
@AlbinoCrow 2 года назад
I remember watching this when I was in HS and studying in a Christian school for years. After I watched the film I followed the ending and messaged a bunch of people in my contacts that "God is not dead." Now I am an atheist for 7 years and gay. Hahahahahah!
@scoopishere7881
@scoopishere7881 Год назад
I love how they frame the "How can you hate someone who doesn't exist?" line as the mic drop of the movie. God doesn't exist but you can still hate the concept because of how it has fucked up humanity beyond repair.
@trekjudas
@trekjudas 3 года назад
"Strawman: The Movie!"
@Starwarsgeek-98
@Starwarsgeek-98 3 года назад
More like *Deadman* am I right!?
@trekjudas
@trekjudas 3 года назад
@@Starwarsgeek-98 I am unfamiliar with deadman logical fallacy.
@Starwarsgeek-98
@Starwarsgeek-98 3 года назад
@@trekjudas cause they killed the Strawman professor. Thus he is a Deadman. They won the argument by killing him and converting him
@trekjudas
@trekjudas 3 года назад
@@DougBurgum4VP That's...THAT'S PRETTY BAD!
@MP4_mafia
@MP4_mafia 3 года назад
Should be called bad faith
@ricardoaguirre6126
@ricardoaguirre6126 3 года назад
Anyone who's actually been to college can easily disprove this movie's claim.
@kneesnap1041
@kneesnap1041 2 года назад
Anyone who's even been to high school frankly. You have to be brainwashed into not being able to disprove this
@crowdemon_archives
@crowdemon_archives 2 года назад
I've never been to a college and I can disprove this fuckery. -I do go to polytechnic though, which I'm not entirely sure if it can be considered as "college" but it's definitely tertiary education-
@dakotawright2811
@dakotawright2811 2 года назад
What about all the court cases at the end in the credits that list all the persecution of Christians?
@kneesnap1041
@kneesnap1041 2 года назад
@@dakotawright2811 Respectfully, if you see that as proof of persecution, then you need to re-evaluate your standards of proof. My understanding of the claim is that Christians are persecuted because there are some court cases which had religious discrimination. When you're talking about persecution, it means religious discrimination on a society-wide level. I don't know how many cases are listed, but if I had to guess it's probably several dozen, maybe upwards of a hundred. Assuming that in every single case there was unquestionable discrimination, that would still be meaningless on its own. It's not society-wide unless its an inescapable aspect of participating in society. An example of that would be "Whites only" signs on businesses back in the day. You just don't see that on a society-wide level. America is becoming less religious, but it's not due to persecution.
@dakotawright2811
@dakotawright2811 2 года назад
@@kneesnap1041 but Christians are still being discriminated against because they are Christians. Not only Christians it is people of other faiths but because Christian is the main religion they are being targeted. Just look at what Biden is trying to do right now making Christian universities accept LGBT people against their religious beliefs and forcing them to or the schools will have to close. That's called persecution and that's called discrimination because they are discriminated against them because they are Christians and they are persecuting them because if they don't do what they want they will stop them and force them to shut down or pay heavy fines. And maybe you've heard of the baker who refused to bake a cake for a gay wedding and he is been through several lawsuits and they keep attacking him because he stands up for his Christian beliefs. They said that if he does not bake the cake then they will shut down his business and possibly charge him with a hate crime. Take a look at Tim Tebow he join the NFL and people on news outlets and on ESPN criticized him for praying in the end zones after he scored touchdowns and they criticize him for standing up for his belief but then they praised Colin Kaepernick for kneeling for social justice and his beliefs. Hypocrites.
@emilyalucard
@emilyalucard 2 года назад
When you said I wonder what God's GPA is I almost dropped my phone and laughter did not expect that question
@sharathsh9987
@sharathsh9987 2 года назад
My intro to philosophy professor told us to divide ourselves by religious and non-religious (i.e. atheist, agnostic etc.). When we moved among ourselves and formed into two distinct groups, he told us today we'd be arguing about the existence of God(s). The caveat was, we'd be arguing for the other side, so the non-religious group would put forth the religious argument and vice versa. This was by far the most productive and philosophically interesting discussion we've had. Although my professor was very clearly an atheist, he would encourage us to think about the "other side" of the aisle and steelman their arguments. This has been pretty much the norm with professors in university, in my personal experience. They always encouraged us to critically think about issues instead of trying to force feed like the professor from this atrocious "film." Even the more opinionated professors I've met were more than tolerant of dissent, especially engaging dissent.
@eckmann88
@eckmann88 3 года назад
Nietzsche: “Our society has abandoned religious morality, and whether it is factually true or not, we are in a great crisis of needing to determine a structure of meaning in the world for ourselves.” Professor Philosophy Man: “Sky man no exist because smart man say so.”
@darlalathan6143
@darlalathan6143 3 года назад
A lot of people misunderstand Nietzsche, partly because his Nazi sister rewrote his books after he got schizophrenia.
@XarXXon
@XarXXon 3 года назад
There's no such thing as religious morality. Following orders from a ancient text has nothing to do with morality.
@oscarchavezavellan2738
@oscarchavezavellan2738 3 года назад
@@XarXXon The point is Nietzsche NEVER intended to deny the existence of god and the fact that the writers tried to make it look that way just shows how ignorant they are about philosophy
@AlexanderGieg
@AlexanderGieg 3 года назад
@@XarXXon There is a thing like religious morality, but not for the reasons religious people think. It comes from natural selection. Societies and cultures live in competition with each other, and their success or failure, in strict evolutionary terms, comes from how much they help or hinder its members surviving and spreading their genes. Now, look at Judaism and consider: its set of "divinely mandated" orders has helped, and continues to help, Jewish genetic lines to survive and spread for 3,000+ years even in face of recurrent ethnic persecuting. Hence, it makes _a lot_ of sense for Jewish people to continue following them. They're extremely effective at the _only_ metric that truly matters on the long term, the same being valid of all other successful religious moral codes. Does this mean non-religious moralities cannot be as successful? Not at all, nothing prevents it. But nothing guarantees they're going to be successful either. Non-religious moralities are all very new in historical terms, most have less than 200 years, so the question of their long term evolutionary effectiveness is open. In a few millennia we'll have enough data to know one way or the other. Meanwhile, if one wanted, for whatever reason, to chose the optimal set of morals so as to have the highest centuries-long continuation likelihood for their extended family's genetic line, then a historically very successful religious morality is the rational choice _irrespective of_ its metaphysical beliefs being true or not. Those moralities have withstood the test of time, so the likelihood of them continuing to do so remains pretty high.
@XarXXon
@XarXXon 3 года назад
@@AlexanderGieg All religions incorporate "secular" morality and claim it as their own. Most animals, especially mammals have some form of morality, yet none (that we can tell) have religion. Meaning morality predates religion and doesn't require it.
@thesquirrelisking
@thesquirrelisking 3 года назад
Pureflix: I like my men like I like my hay bails. Made of straw.
@an8strengthkobold360
@an8strengthkobold360 3 года назад
Thankyou for this quote.
@RoseEyed
@RoseEyed 3 года назад
You are a gift to mankind, Squirrel
@Hel1mutt
@Hel1mutt 3 года назад
beautiful
@b2gills
@b2gills 3 года назад
This made me laugh so much that I have a tear in my eye. (To be fair it is 3am.)
@TheAres1999
@TheAres1999 Год назад
What I find interesting is that although Josh did not really argue philosophy, he did do a great job of speaking to his audience. Perhaps his whole plan was to win by making the professor look bad
@kcbondurant7959
@kcbondurant7959 2 года назад
omg I enjoyed this. Especially the end. "In philosophical terms this is what we call... 'what the (bleep)?' ". Awesome stuff.
@lynchwurzel9691
@lynchwurzel9691 3 года назад
“How can you hate someone that doesn’t exist?" *DIES OF CRINGE*
@natthasiriboon8145
@natthasiriboon8145 3 года назад
Well, I hate Umbridge from Harry Potter. And I know full well she doesn't exist.
@hepty3179
@hepty3179 3 года назад
@Sergio Marc I stopped watching the first season,so I just pretend everyone of them is just stuck in Aincrad.
@andreaolivas8516
@andreaolivas8516 3 года назад
HAHAHA my mom still thinks this is a whole ass clever argument to prove that God exists 🥴
@vasyajx
@vasyajx 3 года назад
How can you cringe at something that doesn't exist
@onijester56
@onijester56 3 года назад
@@hepty3179 You must have stopped watching REAL EARLY into the series, since the first season had a solid 90% of the people who lived escape Aincrad at a little past the halfway point. (Being technical, they did escape Aincrad...however, the 10% that did not return to their bodies were funneled into a tangential game-world, Alfheim, which uses the same seed and was developed by the co-designer of Aincrad). Also, that means you miss the awesomeness of "Gun Gale Online" (read: first half of Season 2), or Asuna's actually-treated-like-a-real-person role in the "Mothers Rosario" side-story (part of the latter half of Season 2).
@theskeptic7713
@theskeptic7713 3 года назад
As an Atheist, When I watched this for the first time. I jumped off a cliff in mind and died a thousand time.
@DJSpacePug
@DJSpacePug 3 года назад
Bruh, if you died 1000 times, that means that you reincarnated 999 times, proving a) both Prof. Dingus Nut and Josh Weebsus are dumb frick-McNuggets b) Atheism and Christianity are false, Buddhism is true mayhaps c) you can now play as LUIGI. Luigi’s Not Dead: The Movie
@amys6987
@amys6987 2 года назад
@@DJSpacePug now this is a mantra I can get behind 👏🏻
@PA-1000
@PA-1000 2 года назад
@bible Reader u didn't spell jesus right.
@xBjorGMistyx
@xBjorGMistyx 2 года назад
@bible Reader How?
@chedertarrance1127
@chedertarrance1127 2 года назад
Same.
@Cuythulu
@Cuythulu 2 года назад
Glenn Beck said him and his daughter walked out of the teather because they found the portrayel of atheists to be offensive. Glenn Beck.
@Mythodiir
@Mythodiir 2 года назад
My grandson had an Atheist professor in collage. He tried to convert grandson to Atheism by the sword, but grandson prayed to G-dawg and G-dawg sent down a beam of light and it hit the big mean Atheist in the middle of the forehead and he disintigrated to trillions of micro-particulates of dust. At home we make our own philosophy, that's healthier and with better flavours.
@IamDifferentToo
@IamDifferentToo 3 года назад
You've opened the box. The chaos is already here... you must do the trilogy
@arthurcleary6361
@arthurcleary6361 3 года назад
there are seven more movies
@artificergunn3065
@artificergunn3065 3 года назад
There’s more ??? How is there more? Who paid for this?
@jayburn00
@jayburn00 3 года назад
@@artificergunn3065 I think one of the actors helped fund it, supposed to be uber Christian
@mclainboyd5514
@mclainboyd5514 3 года назад
@@arthurcleary6361 there’s more than the trilogy?!
@sarcasticfanstic
@sarcasticfanstic 3 года назад
@@artificergunn3065 I think you're talking David r.a white
@randomgirl01300
@randomgirl01300 3 года назад
I watched this movie as a Christian kid and I loved it. I tried to rewatch it as an Atheist adult, and let me tell you... This movie was written by someone who never took a philosophy course in college.
@wayfa13
@wayfa13 2 года назад
that's why they indoctrinate them young; well, that's how they got me. and the eternal fire n brimstone shit was pretty fkn scary as a 5 year old ngl. I'd be lying if I said I've made a full recovery 30 years later. emotional damage x'D
@lifeontheledgerlines8394
@lifeontheledgerlines8394 Год назад
@@wayfa13 sorry if it isn't, but was "emotional damage" a Steven He reference?
@nox6687
@nox6687 Год назад
@@lifeontheledgerlines8394 ye
@Sarah-re7cg
@Sarah-re7cg Год назад
never took a philosophy or literally any college course*
@jady_vanity4015
@jady_vanity4015 Год назад
And you forgot that the director of this film as either never met an atheist or he has but never listened to why they don’t believe and just said to them that they know better than them on why they don’t believe
@ejonp
@ejonp Год назад
The entire PureFlix catalog could be titled "Straw Man: The Movie, parts 1 through 99".
@TheMessiahofGamesMJDevilDog
@TheMessiahofGamesMJDevilDog 2 года назад
I can't believe I got an ad for the new Gods Not Dead movie while watching this.
@preachez
@preachez 3 года назад
As some one who double majored in philosophy and religion and watched this when I was a kid at summer camp ... I always hated this movie
@johnlewis8934
@johnlewis8934 3 года назад
Ok but why ? Please explain
@preachez
@preachez 3 года назад
@@johnlewis8934 the film creators are not educated in neither philosophy or theology. The false dichotomy established between the two schools is largely nonexistent. The creators could’ve easily used philosophers that were also theologians to argue but instead relies on logical fallacies throughout the movie
@jackbarman7063
@jackbarman7063 3 года назад
I was a secular studies and philosophy double major. There is so much wrong with this movie with regard to philosophy alone. It seems like the creators never went to a philosophy class or any college class for that matter.
@b2gills
@b2gills 3 года назад
They also don't know what an atheist is. Considering their main atheist character isn't an atheist. He hates God for taking away his mother. He therefore believes in God. The one defining characteristic of an atheist is that they don't believe in any gods. He therefore was not an atheist.
@cellblocknine5385
@cellblocknine5385 3 года назад
Why did you feel the need to list your credentials?
@devinosland359
@devinosland359 3 года назад
I can't get over the fact that atheists can pretty much always make more compelling arguments for god than Christians can really ever muster
@kneesnap1041
@kneesnap1041 2 года назад
It's because you athiesm is usually grounded in philosophy. Religion isn't about finding what's true or pushing the limits of reason, philosophy is. Religion is really about community, and easy explanations of the world. Religious people generally don't care about being right, they know they are. (Incorrectly) Basically, it's because philosophy is about exploring logic and reality, it will give better possibilities than people who just believe.
@wayfa13
@wayfa13 2 года назад
imo it's cuz non-hereditary atheists generally are people that questioned and explored their beliefs previously as believers, why they believed them and/or read all the lore books. So they are generally more well read than the people who just take at face value what the preacher tells them to believe and the like.
@andru_5854
@andru_5854 2 года назад
Literally got a two minute ad for the new God’s not dead movie
@VivianArthurs
@VivianArthurs Год назад
So my first year philosophy teacher was a devoute christian...it never came up in the school year! The whole concept of the teacher imposing beliefs on the a class makes no sense. Yes we spoke of some religious stuff but even then i could not tell what my teacher's personal views were 😐
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