God’s Not Dead 2: What is Faith, Anyway? 

Actually though

I haven't seen this movie, but as someone who is as of recently, attempting to cultivate faith, and try to live a moral life, this is the stuff I'm trying to avoid. People seem to have gotten so wrapped up in who's right about one thing, or who's right about another thing, that they forget what Jesus was all about. peaceful coexistence, faith and love, and trying your best to be the best person you can. Not hate; not arguing.

Not even just moderate Christians, but faithful and pious Christians. This cringe is very much an American thing.

This is movie is wholly absurd. Spent my entire life in church & never felt persecuted over my religion. Then again, I'm black, I was born a persecuted minority.

@@OthelloCyber KEK

Then again I wouldn’t find Satanism as a probable cause

It would be more realistic too. Literally any other religion than Christianity it would be more believable somebody somehow ended up on trial, though admittedly still a stretch. Like the social persecution, yeah sure but it's just so plain in the constitution that you can't actually put someone on trial for their religion in the US that it's a goofy ass plot line. A Witch being accused of selling illegal drugs and poisoning kids makes a little more sense. There's always a negative stereotypical association to criminalize cause criminalizing faith makes no sense.

I'd.....LOVE to see a movie like this based in Satanism.

i think that would be super funny. but mega cringe as well.

@@Whofan06 you have been tought all your told to hate christianity and anybody who is a christian. of course that would be you're perspective.

Target audience is given what they want to see to sell the film, same as with any other film.

@@g7924 From my understanding (as a former teacher and social worker in several schools, in several states), I was allowed to talk about God, religions, the Bible, etc, as long as I presented it as relevant to the class and didn't try to elevate one religion over another. So, when we read the Epic of Gilgamesh in my English class, no one batted an eye when we compared it to the story of the flood in the Bible, which we used as a contemporary story and not as historical truth. Likewise, no one batted an eye when we read stuff from the Great Revival period in American history or sections of Dante's Inferno. And absolutely no one had a problem when we read MLK's Letter from a Birmingham Jail and discussed his influences. However, if I had told my students that Gilgamesh was going to hell for ripping off the Bible, or that the only way to have civil rights was to pray to Baptist Jesus in church each week, or that [insert religion] was wrong and [insert other religion] was right, then I would've potentially gotten in trouble. IMO, we do students a disservice by leaving religion out of schools - as long as it's being discussed in a historical/cultural context. So many people and movements throughout history have been influenced by religion, but a lot of people don't realize it since many teachers don't bring it up because they don't want the hassle of having to defend themselves. Same with prayer in school. Students can pray all they want, either individually or in student-formed prayer groups; schools just aren't supposed to lead the prayers or require students to participate.

But that would literally not match the intent of these movies... celebrate their persecution complex by inventing convoluted ways in which they will "with the help of god" triumph over the persecutors...

@@g7924 Because it goes against religious neutrality. When a teacher, someone in a position of power over their students, pushes their religion on them in a mandatory environment funded by the state, the state funds this too, which goes against this. The state is to be seperate in its actions from any religious institution.

It reminds me of the funniest part of the Talmud, the Oven of Akhnai, whereby Rabbi Eliezer argues with other rabbis over whether a type of oven can be ritually impure. Rabbi Eliezer is losing, so he calls on a series of increasingly-dramatic miracles to prove his case, culminating in the divine voice telling the rabbis that Eliezer is right - at which point he still loses because he's outvoted three to two and the law is still majority vote. The best part is when one of the miracles causes the walls of the building they're in to collapse, at which point another rabbi tells the walls off for interrupting a legal debate and they hold still.

The entirety of western civilization is and has been influenced by The Bible for the past say 2000 years. Take up any field of study(except science to some extent), you are to bound to come across the reference of The Bible in some form or another. Philosophy, history, politics, hell even architecture. Oh, also, as an Indian who had to study Gandhian political praxis in middle school, Gandhi had been quite vocal about him being influenced by The Bible.

@@spandansaha168 Even with the history of science, it would not be out of the question to discuss how specific Christian ideas influenced (and led, occasionally) scientific research. For instance, the Christian idea of being able to understand God through studying His creation was a fundamental part of the development of the scientific method in the west.

@@DneilB007 True. God had been at the center of all scientific and rational enquiry as well. For it is always presumed that the ultimate metaphysical being is God and science is just an apparatus made by us to understand metaphysics.

I do wish school districts would take the same approach to CRT

That approach being?

Lol, I remember the pride that our church had whenever we "converted" a Catholic to Evangelicalism (though, we were technically Missionary Church, it's basically the same thing)

Evangelicals are literally heretics

@@veler6049 Damn those Christians why can't they be more Christian like my version of Christianity.

The difference between Christians and Catholics is that the Catholics have a LOT of rituals and traditions and organisational systems. The biggest difference is that Catholics believe that the Pope is God on earth, whereas Christians believe that this is a heresy. There a lot of differences between the two and if you say there aren't then you know nothing.

@@potapotapotapotapotapotano! the followers of Muhammed are the only "true" Christians! Evangelicals aren't christian at all, they just call themselves that because they claim to believe in Jesus. But many speak in tongues and love making money, so definitely not Christians. Gullible nitwits

I think he did that (or some other lawyer). The telling thing is that after this movie came out the actual ACLU made a statement saying that the position represented of them in the film in the movie is false and that they would absolutely stand by the teacher in pointing out religious motivations in historical figures.

@@matthewjohnson3656 the ACLU can claim that, but the fact is that religious people have been put on trial multiple times because of this same exact reason. The intro to every end credits scene of these movies shows the cases that led to the inspiration behind making them. To claim that Christians aren't being taken to court for sharing their beliefs is ridiculous. I don't know if Muslims or other religions are taken to court as much as Christians are, but it happens frequently enough to have dozens of cases represented by just one organization. And it's always basdd on this false notion of separation of church and state.

@@NovusIgnis Teachers shouldn't be sharing their beliefs with students. Schools are secular and teachers are government run facilities where the government cannot endorse any one religion. Teachers must abide by this. If a teacher repeatedly proselytes in school, they are likely to be fired, as they should since their position says they cannot do that while acting as a teacher. If they want to do it in their free time, thats fine. However thats not what this movie depicted. They created a scenario where a teacher is talking about religious influences on historical figures. As long as the teacher does endorse or demonize that religion, this is totally fine. But the movie puts this hypothetical teacher on trial for this. If you would like to say I'm wrong, please find me an instance where the ACLU has gone after a teacher who specifically spoke about religious influence in this manner. And don't just cite the cases in the credits of the film without looking up the details. Teachers handing out bibles to students is not the same thing as what happened in this strawman of a movie. Things like that are what happened in most of these court cases.

@@matthewjohnson3656 Funny how it's always these beliefs that get attacked. A teacher wears a cross or has a Bible and it's an issue, but if someone wears a hijab that's perfectly fine. Teachers shouldn't share their beliefs? Then why do we constantly see it being acceptable for teachers to share their political beliefs with students, but it's not okay with teachers to share their Christian beliefs? No, the problem comes into play when people don't bother to understand what this country is actually about. Our rights are protected period. From the government, and from others. Government entities are allowed to practice their religion just as other people are. The idea of separation of church and state is bullshit. This isn't supported by the establishment clause or the free exercise clause. Separation of church and state is as much a constitutional right as abortion is, which is to say it isn't one. They're both the result of judicial abuse of power. When this country was founded, we held mass in government buildings. We elected our officials based on their beliefs. We didn't shun government agents for what they believed in. That didn't start happening until the judiciary system overstepped their bounds and started creating laws and policy changes according to their desires. That isn't their job. The intent of the first ammendment or the founding fathers was never to keep religion out of government, but to keep government out of religion.

​@@NovusIgnis I have never heard of a teacher being banned from wearing a cross. You seem to have a persecution complex about this. Teachers generally shouldn't share political beliefs. Even if they do, politics has a basis in reality. A teacher can tell her students how the new healthcare bill affects teachers. Politics has to be discussed in government class. its not ok for ANY teacher to share ANY religious belief. Its not ok for a muslim to preach about Allah or a wiccan to talk about spirit communion or a mormon to pass out their books. Across the board, no one gets to do it and so no one's parents have to complain about teachers trying to convert their kids. Do you want your kids being preached at by a jehovah's witness? Kids already have enough subjects to study in school. they don't need teachers preaching to them. The establishment clause is there to say that the government as a whole or in its parts cannot favor one religion over another. A teacher is a representative of the government and is bound by this. If you don't want separation of church to be a thing (which it is and was written about by multiple founding fathers), answer this: Are you ok with mormons trying to convert your kids during precious school time? What about muslims starting class by reading a chapter from the quran?

It's part of their identity and helps justify much of what they do. It helps keep them cultish, insular and rationalizes their attacks on everyone else as simply fighting back.

Amusingly Florida’s don’t say gay bill does just this

And that's the UK, imagine how bad it is in the US. It's way worse here. Thise whole movie would never happen.

My first grade teacher let her fiance sit in class with us. He was a nice guy but it felt really uncomfortable. God forbid a teacher wear a rainbow pin, though.

Then you missed the entire point of either movie.

When I saw the trailer, I laughed because I could only think, "No teacher would ever actually be brought to trial for saying what Sabrina said in that class." I know, I'm an English teacher. Referencing the Bible now and then is pretty much inevitable if you're talking about classic literature, and nobody's ever tattled on me or brought me to trial. The Christian persecution complex is wild.

@@Dachusblot I agree. Teachers are prohibited from indoctrination, not reference.

@@RandomGuy-jo8ky That social conservatives aren't happy unless they manufacture a persecution complex? They wear martyrdom like Gucci.

@@tetsubo57 when you believe in nothing martyrdom becomes the best use for your cause.

Being Catholic makes me hate Evangelicals and realize how, relative to conservative Evangelicalism, it’s just fine lol

As someone who was raised catholic, it's true. I am now a satanist, and I'm feeling happier than I was when I was catholic.

Maybe I wasn't raised Catholic enough then since I don't hate being Catholic but I do find a lot of flaws and issues with the church.

Aphrodite/Venus is behind the name of April (a minor nickname of hers, but still a name used to worship the goddess of love), btw and Julius Caesar and Augustus Julius Caesar Octavianus were said to have been deified (Apotheosis), so it's seven months in total that carry names associated with greco-roman deities :) And February is a religious rite of cleansing. Not directly a god, but deeply rooted in the roman form of pagan worship.

@@Ugly_German_Truths but since we accept that Julius Caesar and Augustus existed, we must also except that the others existed. One cant be real while the other isn't - obivously! (I am bing ironic btw)

​@@idenpoelchau1656 Almost as if one existence is well documented, he let statues be built of himself where he conquered and even his own Journal is still around and readable (Caesars Meditatios), while the other is only written about by others, centuries later, in often very dubious circumstances, like a tale of him raising the dead, almost reminiscent of the greek play format. Curious, maybe it's all metaphorical. I'm 14, this is #deep, thanks for coming to my Ted talk and with that I wish you a good one dear reader.

Completely missing the part where there were also multiple manuscripts citing the existence of Jesus Christ, including the gospels.

@@NovusIgnis completely missing the part where all those references to Jesus existing are really just references to their being people who called themselves Christians or references to people the writers couldn't have known, claiming they knew Jesus or that jesus' brother existed? Pliny the Younger, who died in AD 113, writer of the earliest surviving third party documents that refer to Christianity, wrote of how it isn't possible to know if Jesus actually existed, based on the records available during his time. Gospels... That's cute. Are you even aware of the contradictions between the same stories told in those 4 books? They couldn't even copy the one book cleanly when it evolved into the 4 books.

Clarissa explained it all in an episode of Are You Afraid of the Dark Money.

Toss a coin to your exorcist~

What's also ironic is Ray Wise was in a Star Trek episode that talked about the problems of trying to appease an unknowable deity.

Ray wise also played a man who was possessed by a malicious evil spirit in twin peaks

Really?

Yes, really.

Yeah, as a Christian, I wholeheartedly agree that most Christian media is not only poorly made, but also extremely self-righteous and almost propagandist.

I find that hard to believe because they keep making them That moneys coming from somewhere lol

@@Betito1171 A good budget does not a good movie make. And just because a film makes money at the box office doesn't mean that it was actually good. Look at most of the Disney remakes. Hollow shells of their preceeding counterparts, yet they make millions at the box office simply because of nostalgia. Likewise the only reason these God's Not Dead films are making any money is because they're telling a certain group of people exactly what they want to hear so they can feel good about themselves. Despite these filmmakers claims that they want to use filmmaking to teach non believers about faith, all they end up doing is preaching to the proverbial choir.

Good quote but I enjoy his other quote "I should listen to everyone but my self, because myself, told myself, that I'm the mf man and I don't need no help".

@@artypyrec4186 this made me lol

How about this? "I'm the man of God, and uou all are just b****es of the devil."

@@artypyrec4186 is this from Soliloquys

Poor Adeodatus (No really, St. Augustine of Hippo had a kid)

"bustin makes me feel good"

I mean, shit, Daredevil and Serenity had a better philosophical understanding of faith than these movies.

As a life-long non-believer who has read the bible, I look at American Christians and they are NOTHING like what I would expect to see. In fact, they are the polar opposite. It has gotten so bad that we now have those "prosperity gospels" that seemingly ignore the "camel through the eye of the needle" sentiment. To make it worse, they're chosen to side with the rich man [Trump, online influencers] over Lazarus [the poor and needy]. Even Floyd Mayweather has said that "god said it was okay for me to be rich." Having seen the sacred ceremonies and practices of other religions, it feels like American Christianity has been reduced to a label that has become synonymous with being Republican. And their behavior is horrible. I accidentally outed myself in first grade. That was their chance to be nice about it and get me involved. Instead, I was mocked, threatened, and dehumanized. They talked about "the love of Jesus," but I never saw that heading my direction. What I wonder, and maybe you'll have some insight, is whether or not many branches of American Christianity are too far gone to be rescued. What is most disgusting to me is how Trump, other Republicans, and even some preachers are fleecing the flock by declaring themselves to be Christians, while not appearing to be Christian at all. I have NO idea how Donald "TWO Corinthians" Trump got Christians to believe that he is a Christian. There is NOTHING about him that fits.

​@@DrumWild the cult & weird version of Christianity is probably (in my opinion) being caused by liberal religious freedom. There's even religion based on sci-fi fiction (Scientism) implying that the freedom is way too much and goes overboard. Anyways, we can't fix the cult problem because everyone will thinks their religion will be squashed if freedom is cut, so it can't be fixed sadly.

*Case in point *Scopes trial (was resolved. Scopes was found guilty, although it was later overturned on a technicality--that the jury should have decided the fine, rather than the judge.)

Thats just evangelism. Full of peoples injections and loose interpretations

Love your comment and helps show many Christians don’t leak this film because it or others like it , are the total opposite of what Jesus stood for.

They are misunderstanding the source... much like with everything else in the bible.

Do they even know who Nietzsche standed for? It feels like they just read the line "god is dead" and didn't bother to understand what it means

@@lacabraasada2326 Much like how they memorized a bunch of disconnected Bible passages without bothering to understand the stories they were attached to.

I heard someone once say that if we were back in Biblical times, a majority of the people today who claim to be followers would be the ones calling for his crucifixion.

​@BlakLite15 and you did?

The real thorn at the root of that ignorance is a belief that **requiring understanding** of the religion before professing it gets in the way of saving people's souls. Which flows out of the totally skewed cost-benefit analysis that goes into evangelism. To these people (at least the sincere ones), if they aren't converting people, those people are going to experience eternal torment for the rest of time. Therefore, any questionable bullshit they pull to get people out of that is justified. Plus, the "once saved always saved" fire-and-forget mentality gives no incentive to actually learn once you're in it. Doesn't matter if the evangelist or evangelized actually understand anything about this god. Doesn't matter if they're straight-up wrong. All that matters is the head count. Which is why when a pastor gets up and claims gay folks can't be saved we wind up with horrific conversion "therapy" stories--all that matters is hell.

Egh, in my experience I don't know many/any atheists who don't have some kind of a fucked up past with religion. Being agnostic seems intellectually honest and fair, but the sort of resentment I see in self-proclaimed "atheists" generally seems to be a more axiomatic position than one strictly based on "evidence". And fair enough-- it may be the case that religion is a serious problem that we need to outgrow--that's a fair position to have intuitively, but I think the jury is still out when it comes to the "evidence". It's kind of hard to disprove a metaphysical construct, mythology and meta-narrative don't seem to play nice when it comes to trying to hard "research" analysis..

@@garrettvandenberg2031 I'm an atheist but I came to my atheism on a very long path. And I wasn't so much angry when I finally left religion it was that my eyes were finally completely and totally open. And in the end it wasn't hard for me I realized I had no reason to believe in an invisible sky wizard and plenty of reasons not too. And I've seen plenty of arrogance and obnoxious among religious types. And I've had plenty get very angry at me because I won't except the whole we don't know how it works therefore God attitude.

Isn't atheism the default or null state? Any religion takes an extra step and is not the default or null state. You don't "come to atheism", you just stop believing in what ever you believed in.

@@garrettvandenberg2031 Perhaps you just haven't talked religion with enough people. I suspect there's a lot of people like myself who react to religion and faith with an enthusiastic "meh". My entire life I've been unaffiliated - I used to go to a youth group at the local Methodist church when I was a kid but it was all pretty much secular activities. I personally see nothing to convince me to believe in god, and I tend to think it's best to view people and organizations by their actions, not their beliefs. So basically I'd say if pressed I'd identify as atheist, but I don't have enough invested in the conversation to be angry about it. It's almost like asking me about sports - I am not and have never been a rugby fan... not because I have a fucked up history but because I have NO history.

@@jackbauer123321 no atheist simply means a non belief in any god or gods. It's as simple as that. And yes I did come to atheism because I've stopped believing in a god.

Hah, wish I'd had half of your guts. Good on ya!

Toxic? 🤨

I'm guessing she only cast her magical spells over the food in the name of her Christian gods. Would be interesting to know her reaction if those spells were done in the name of the islamic god.

​@jaclo3112 well there's only only God and that is Yahweh and we do give thanks in his name before we eat because we are thankful for our daily bread and who has supplied it for us. 😊

Looks like religious directors like money like the 'evil' people too

The first one made an INSANE amount of money (64.7 million return on a 2 million dollar budget), so obviously they would make more. 2 was 24.5 mn on 5 mn 3 was 7.4 mn on an unpublished budget 4 did as of yet not publish neither costs nor revenue. Usually you'd put a rough estimate of 1/3 of the box office intake making it to the studio/producers after taxes and the shares of distributors and cinemas themselves and with advertisement the price for the studio tends to be twice the officially stated budget, which in this case is probably an unnecessary high estimate as a lot of the publicity came from free reporting in christian press and talk radio... So a 5 million dollar movie budget under normal circumstances would mean at least 8-10 million actually spent to promote the product including all costs for making it and a 25 million box office haul means about 8-9 million come back to the ones making the movie. The GnD values are probably slightly lower ont he production/promotion side and slightly higher on the revenue side, but still, that is close to not make profits at all... suggesting that Movies 2 to 4 were all still supported by the 20-25 million the studio got in revenue from the first part. (lessened by the 2.5 million or so cost to bring it into theaters, which is STILL a great ratio for any movie) By now it has become a recognizable brand that pulls viewers to get its message out, so pumping a bit of the money into making more of these movies works probably better than making 12 or 15 more 2 million dollar movies and hoping for another surprise success like GnD (1).

I work in a Louisiana library, where these movies are popular (sadly...)

Cancel culture is real and kind of random .

@@RandomGuy-jo8ky yes it is very random. i just looked it up, Chris brown has been nominated for 12 grammys since 2011, but there are people who get canceled for using the word "gay" on Twitter like 10 years ago. it's hypocritical as fuck.

Neither would they today, this movie is a fiction not a documentary.

Right. For me It was apart of world history. And all faiths as they pertained to social movements were covered.

They are still covered this movie is just Christians complaining about not being fairly treated while they trample on everyone else's

they make me feel like i didn’t need to go to college for that, i can just watch wisecrack 😜

Uh well Christ is the son of God by proving that he rose from the dead as prophecied many times in the book of Isaiah and many other scriptures long before God became and took on human flesh.

She was my childhood crush to 😭

It is, so is everything around you and every other idea. That's life for you.

@@stefanmilicevic5322 how do rocks cope with existence?

@@internalizedhappyness9774 pretty well actually

@@daydelus hi can I be a rock, also note I would like very much like to be a rock now.

Autheist? Is that like a person who doesn't believe in Austria?

Yeah but I think he was talking about white conservative christians. Of course, nonwhite nonchristian religious ppl do get persecuted. He acknowledged that at 17:44

@@sebastianfeuerstein9306 I have no doubt about it and he does acknowledge it. But at this specific sentence he phrased it as if it addresses all religions and not only white Christians.

@@simel1984 yeah

I am Naive to this topic, but this sounds misleading to me. I know we’ve been made hyper aware of Islamophobia and that’s fine, but at least domestically, it seems a bit unlikely that the government is rounding up Muslims or holding them at gunpoint because they’re Muslim. Do you have any evidence of this?

@@scottkidder9046 Islamophobia is still bad even if Muslims aren't being held at gunpoint

They don't understand

Red Dead II is a masterpiece. I’m thinking of starting the game again for the fourth time, probably tonight.

Now I've got Red Dead Depression again

@@Nameless-pt6oj I like the part where going slightly off course fails the mission

😂 😂 😂

But you already killed Kevin Sorbo in the first movie.

maybe that will be a new kink

ooo gotem!

What the religious leaders do grasp is that they if they mix religion with the state they can exert more control over their sheeple.

@@joaovilaca1436 exactly, it's about power influence and cash. Has nothing to do with their bullshit Jesus or even their religion in general. That's why it's a problem

you would have no problem with mosque and state. because muslims hate america too.

@@guillermoelnino places like Alabama and Mississippi are a lot like Iran in many ways yes. Yet. They claim themselves patriots

God's NOT Dead: Ded 4 Life

I disagree, but I agree that it’s not a very good movie.

Agreed, but so is this analysis.

@@MeaninglessName1234 It's not a strawman if the argument being repeated and attributed to an entity is the same argument that was made by that entity

@@Nameless-pt6oj Have you seen any of these movies? The atheists/antitheists in the movies are textbook examples of strawmen. None of them have reasonable, rational, or real arguments against religion. They're all just mad at god and rebelling against "Him." How much more straw could you even stuff in?

@@MeaninglessName1234 So you don't know what a strawman is, either.

Why would knowing a lot abou Jesus come with knowledge about laws or acting?

As the video explains, they don't even understand the best arguments *for* religious faith. Like, I think the highly regarded theologians this video cites still base their ideology in dumb and absurd philosophical foundations but they're miles and miles better than "God's Not Dead" 's jibberish.

But the Catholics and Christians were persecuted before

The Catholic Church spent 1500 years persecuting...

@@eugeb3946 XD More like 2000!

@@carolinahernandez627 yeah, for like 50-100 years and then later they decided to prosecute the rest of ideologies for a thousand years. And despite the atrocities they committed, they're making these pitiful movies so some of the dumbest believers out there (hopefully not too many) can fall into the prosecution complex.

@@nosinsnolights9319 oh I didn't know they killed thousands of Buddhists monks and Hindus. Dude they persecuted each other. Just stfu already because they were persecuted in the past and they continue to be persecuted in smaller countries. Btw Muslims and Hinus persecuted Buddhists.

That persecution complex is definitely real and born from the desire to finally see the world end like promised in so much of the new testament with an emphasize on Revelation. They read that in the last days faith will be persecuted, so they could admit that they still enjoy a position of privilege that only is in danger if they overreach and try to hurt other people's faith with theirs by imposing laws or other stipulations on them (like owning a hospital and forbidding even necessary medical measures based on faith arguments) OR they can come up with a fictitious war on their faith and its free execution and make movies like this to "prove it"... including a triumphant victory at the end converting the scoffers and persecutors to their point of view and everybody praying smilingly into the sunset. Anybody needing help to find the side they went with?

@@Ugly_German_Truths Exactly. They both need to believe they’re the oppressed (to fulfill what they believe is Biblical prophecy) and crave the kind of power that would make them the oppressor. It’s a dangerous delusion. I grew up around it but never bought into it. Jesus was executed by the state. He didn’t play golf with Pilate.

speak english cracka

4!? FOUR!? How many of these movies are there???

3 and 4 are actually very good

the only dumber argument I've ever heard is that people only say 'god damnit' or 'jesus christ' as expletives because they subconsciously believe those things are real.

​@@Keira_Blackstonewell then why don't people take the name of Buddha in vain or Mohammed and his god allah for that matter? 🤔

Thank you for making that distinction of that verse.

Yeah, I think it's okay for him to cherry pick some verses. That's all anyone does, anyway

I thought he was going to mention that time when Jesus flipped tables and whipped the merchants out of the Temple

@@aryaver I think context is important no matter who we quote. If it's important to not misquote Nietzsche, it's important to not misquote Matthew.

@@rvch883 Ha fair. Though one moment of upending furniture and waving rope at some coiny bois, doesn't count as an endorsement of systematic socio-political violence 🤣

He was a baddie in Robocop too

You mean that one episode where that one roommate drugs the other one and she accidentally falls off a building and dies and then they think it’s the priest that Gus knows who does it because Sean is uncertain but he finds the pills which leads him to believe that The priest drug the girl to make exorcisms of things so that way you would still be relevant but then find out it was the original roommate who did it and he Frees Gus’s old pastor from almost being convicted of murder that he didn’t commit because Sean figures out that the original killer roommate that killed the other girl faked an exorcism while they were in the room to throw them off and the father well just didn’t really notice the difference because you know religion. Psych that’s a show!

Thank you Jesus

2nd peter 3:3 "come in the last days scoffing and following their own evil desires."

Luke 22:36 "Then He said to them, “But now, he who has a money bag, let him take it, and likewise a knapsack; and he who has no sword, let him sell his garment and buy one." He meant an actual sword not a metaphor.

@@Khemist82 this in a totally different context. Near the end of the narrative when Jesus is describing the persecution his followers will face after his death. This is an affirmation of self defense and does nothing to support your conclusion that Jesus meant a literal sword in the verses I originally addressed. In fact, a short time later Peter draws his sword and cuts the ear off of the lieutenant to the Jerusalem priest who is there to arrest Jesus. Jesus immediately rebukes him and heals the man’s ear.

@@Khemist82 Those are two different situations with completely different context. The only similarity is the mentioning of a sword.

Do you know who James Warner wallace is and that of Lee strobel?

Well let me introduce you to the good and evil God religion. Everything in old testament was the evil God, flooding, killing of offspring ect. Everything in New testament is the good God, forgiving, loving, blah blah blah

Yup! It's all very much stomping on historical Yeshua's face while screaming "you're real and God because you put money in my pocket, right? RIGHT?!"

There's more tangible evidence for the historicy of John Smith than Jesus and yet most of Christians are not Mormons 😱 Idk man. Being raised in a mostly Christian culture and surrounded by lazy apologetics makes people assume strange things. They rarely critically examine their beliefs since you know, they have the Truth. Confirmation bias (thing we all suffer from) doesn't help

I respect your opinions but let me just say this. Correct me if I'm wrong but agnostic is where you dont know if there is a God, right? From an atheist point of view the world is built on chance and all we do and feel is the result of chemicals...kinda like a soda can (some people fizz more than others)...if that is the case then there is zero meaning to anything we say, do, or feel. Your love is not actually love and your hate isnt hate. Morality wouldnt exist...yet you feel these things. Theism is about how life came into being from a devine purpose. If I had to choose between life being utterly meaningless (atheism) and life/humanity having purpose (theism) given by God, I would choose the latter. But that's just my opinion.

but it doesn't exist anymore here either. not that you would care about those who have been silenced. or inevitably when its your turn.

@@guillermoelnino Who are you referring to? People that teach fairy tales in schools?

@@davidspiller7977 lets just say whatever views you have i likely have the opposite.

The thing is that most of the examples you mentioned were added after the founding of the country and in fact they are relatively new in some cases. Most came from the cold war era as being religious was a way of fighting back against the "atheist commies" but in general they are responses from the religious and conservative minority to any change in their society. They became good at exercising a huge amount of political pressure even though they aren't the mayority in the country.