Bees sucked in XI too, arguably more so than in this game. Final Sting did nearly instantaneous damage (not realistically stunnable like it generally is in XIV) that instead scaled with the bee's remaining HP and was pretty one shotty if they decided to use it at high HP, and they could also use/spam Pollen instead which was a significant heal that not only prolonged the fight but helped to bring Final Sting back into dangerous territory. The puny enemies in XI had a reputation for being among the most dangerous.
@@CaetsuChaijiCh It also made me confused when after learning how that mech works i encountered the same dorito but this time with a large telegraph under me. which you should very much not stack 😅why do they use the same indicator for that? xD
It's not common in MSQ but you see it quite a bit in optional content. First time someone taught it to me was in Weeping City, and I never forgot it again because failing that one tends to just _kill you_ :P
You are correct with your assumption of the tank in E4 spamming provoke! You can see the VFX happening every 30 seconds (so every time it was up) from 89:54 onwards in your duty timer. Since it's easy to tell they knew what they were doing, my guess is they were extremely bored from the mogtome grind and took it as a little challenge just to see if they could keep aggro througout the fight without stance. I know I've done similar things in the past out of boredom as well (start with stance, then turn it off after the opener and see how long it takes for someone to even come close in aggro).
Remember that, as a caster, you also have sleep available in cases where the tank goes down to big pulls! While the quasi ranged dps summoner can kite enemies to a degree, a red or black mage can use their respective instant cast mechanics to at least attempt to reduce the number of now rabid mobs hitting other players while the healer is busy ressing the tank. The caster sleep is aoe and lasts for a very long time. I have definitely prevented a wipe or two thanks to the snooze button.
i love when there is chaos in my trial fights. yea sure beating the boss with little issue is efficient, but there is something about shit hitting the fan that makes them more entertaining. i think thats why i love blind progging things, cause things go wrong constantly and its so satisfying to pull out a win.
@@CaetsuChaijiCh We had a Rabanstre Raid yesterday, in which we almost wiped at every boss. It was horrible, but at the same time it was funny to see how many people keep on failing mechanics. My favorite quote was from one of the Tanks at the End: "Well, that was funny enough. Lets never do that again."
I've definitely found that endgame stuff is taking a bit longer recently (don't even ask me about the 50m Thaleia runs). I didn't know that endsinger had been tightened, that's great! I definitely respect the dancer/healer owning up to mistakes, though I'd caution against saying 'my bad' if you don't actually know what went wrong, I've seen enough high end content delayed by half an hour after we *though* someone knew what mistake they were making, only to forcefully probe after a while to realise that they didn't actually know something very basic which was killing them. I don't know if they just thought they were really bad at the execution but especially in higher end I'd appreciate more 'I don't actually know what killed me there, did anyone see?' That is so many mechanics in Kugane Ohashi that I'd never seen!
Oh definitely, in the moment, just going "sorry" if you aren't sure is good enough, but after a wipe and you have time to talk, it certainly makes sense to investigate! Still, it's better someone owns up to it than just silently do nothing! 😁 Indeed, they added a max ilvl sync to endsinger which allows the fight to actually play out! 😁 Come to think of it, I don't think I've seen that many repeats of mechanics on Greg before either!
Hydaelyn has also gotten tightened so that you see the entire fight now. I have gotten it several times in trial roulette lately. Its long and almost always end up with every one fighting for their life the entire time. She does not have an enrage. But she starts spamming the wave and stack mechanics over and over.
@@dimondblade after the dps check, her Mechanics start to cycle pretty fast so that everyone can predict them... and even then you get the usual Melees tanking the floor because they dont wanna loose uptime.
One of my Summoner Main pals never Swiftcasts for their rotation explicitly because they save it for rezzing. I don't blame them, & I often follow their lead if I'm unfamiliar or not confident in the group I'm in.
I've had a similar run to your Yojimbo fight in Eden Ramuh (E5 I think) - we had most or all of a full party running it on voice comms together and we told our friend who's first time it was to hit DPS LB, then shortly after that we have a near-wipe. We managed to recover from it, but with lots of deaths our damage was low, so we built up another LB3. Cue the immortal words "It's probably safe to LB this time" followed by another 5 people dying immediately afterwards. One of the funniest duties I've ever run honestly
Hahaha yeah if you needed one healer lb3, it is best to wait with using the second one on anything until you are absolutely sure! 😂 Eden ramuh is surprisingly tough for a lot of players!
I guess most of the people dying to the little lightning rod because someone stand right above it so no one could see it properly. Thats what happens almost everytime you get that duty in a roulette.
I also got (spoiler duty #6) in mentor roulette today. I love that fight and the extreme, it definitely has the spectacle feel that you mention and I’d be glad to get it any time!
Thank you for including mistakes in your video! Yes even when you make them. It shows that mentors are also human beings that mess up at times (we already know that you're a great mentor tho!). Besides, in your first mentor video you also showed mistakes/things that didn't go well and that was what gave me the final push to try mentor roulette myself, cause I was just afraid of making mistakes
That last trial look like its total madness (in a good way). I need to get round to finishing rest the rest of the hildabrand story so I can see for myslef.
I think I know what was happening on that last dungeon. I don't think the tank was turning the boss intentionally, rather both your tanks had their stance on and I think the boss was flipping targets and turning.
This is why I do my mentor roulette with RDM. When you need to keep raising tank and healer who are both newbie to save a fight. Hope you have fun as a DPS mentor ;)
I lost track of how many times I ran swallow's compass, unsynced solo trying to farm a set of gloves, only to realize I had the name wrong in my head and I got them probably on the first day. My best clear time was 9 and 1/2 minutes on a level 90 ninja.
Holding aggro without tank stance is actually really impressive. I'm not sure if provoke is strong enough to out enmity the dps consistently on its own so they probably used a lot of their ranged move that boosts enmity.
Seeing you as a mentor makes me wanna ask mentors for help, but also what if I suck too much? What if they suck?(Ive heard some horrendous mentor horror stories and I enough social anxiety lmao) As always, love the content ❤❤❤
Was in Qarn recently, healer wanted me to pull big so I did. Told the dps to focus bees, they did not focus bees. One moment I was a live the next I was tanking the floor and watching the dps run away. Healer asked what happened and I told em "I can live one bee but two bees is where my hp draws the line" then explained the bees hit hard if they arent killed fast.
I love the Hildebrand quest trials because they either go off floorlessly, or you blink and: 3 people are dead, 4 have vuln stacks, 2 have damage-downs and you're just kinda praying it all works out
On the topic of the "friendship triangles" even I find that very, very confusing because SQE has used like....3 different telegraphs what you could just call "partner" mechanics. You have no telegraph at all like in M1s or EX1 of Dawntrail, you have the weird air bump circles like in Ifrit and Garauda with a side of pasta, and then you have those friendship triangles. And I think those are the worst ones honestly, because it looks very similiar at a glance to a spread marker. So, people who already know fights later in the game don't have telepgraphs could very reasonably assume it's a really weird spread marker.
It is the worst one definitely. Indeed, there are mechanics that pretty much use the same icon, but accompanied by a circle to indicate "this one's a spread marker instead!" for some reason 😂
Temple of Quarn, it's always the bees, *always*. Either the tank remembers them, or they don't, don't know, and then the expected happens. That last fight looked pretty rough, but also very fun, I'm sure everyone came out of it feeling exhilarated...or maybe a little bit traumatized...(perhaps both?)
That was one spicy Kugane Ohashi, lmao! Yeah, I stop using swiftcast for DPS on SMN as soon as see the group is likely to struggle. Better to have it in my back pocket for a clutch raise than sneak in a couple extra pew pews.
Having done various lower level and/or older content lately, I've definitely noticed that the removal of random frontal cleaves is a sort of under the radar change that has massively impacted the difficulty of the game. And not just in trials/raids but even for random trash mobs. I've seen so many cases of tanks just aiming cleaves at the party or DPS/Healers standing where they would regularly be safe in a more recent duty getting sniped by a cleave. Personally, I'm not someone who at all bemoans that the game is "easier" than it used to be (and I particularly do not like unclear mechanics that you may not even be able to figure out after getting hit by them) but I wouldn't mind seeing more of the cleaves return. Just give them an orange AOE indicator of the flash style that shows you where the attack hits but generally too quickly for you to get out of it in time.
The bees in Qarn frequently kill someone whenever I'm in there. Also, it's a bit of a gamble if the group knows to focus the gem against the second boss. Same for removing doom against the first boss and ignoring the staves (those are staves, right) against the third boss. I'm not sure I'd hard cast rez someone as DPS. Depends on the situation as a whole, I suppose. If we don't need the healer right away or if there's another healer/rezzer, I might wait for Swiftcast instead or possibly let someone else do it. Kugane Ohashi reminded me of a P10 run I had yesterday. Both healers went down, we had no rezzers, I tried being a healer with Clemency. Everyone died, then it was just the other tank and me because tanks just live. We tried to duo clear it from 30%. But I spent my invuln earlier when it didn't look like the OT wouldn't stack with me for the Akh Morn tank buster only to see them stack with me at the last moment. So we died to a regular stack marker later in the fight as I couldn't invuln it and everyone else stacked with the floor instead of us. Next time, we cleared without issue. I queued again as I needed it for WT. 3 first timers. I tanked this one as well. The other tank had 20k HP less than me, so it was no contest. Akh Morn TB happens. OT stacks properly, but doesn't mitigate at all and dies. We don't wipe, but the healers had to hard carry this run. So many deaths. I find these runs more interesting than runs where nothing special happens.
Absolutely agree fights where stuff happens and resses come out are more interesting! Under most circumstances i would also never ever hard ress someone, but sometimes I weigh "safety" of the group too high and I go for it anyway! 😅
@@CaetsuChaijiCh Btw, these videos make me want to try mentor roulette as well. But I do too much solo, with premades, or trusts/duty support, so I can't be a mentor yet. I only have slightly less than 900 commendations. Not sure I should, though. There's so much content I don't remember, only ever did unsynced (which is not the same as not knowing mechanics, but there's a good chance I don't know all of them), or only did like once. Which is not a requirement for being a mentor, but still, I'd like to be able to be a good mentor, not a burger king mentor.
You're right, but I also typically got interrupted very late in the cast, and res is 8 seconds and sure cast is only 6 (or is it 5?) so it mightve ran out had I used it beforehand 😅
@@CaetsuChaijiCh it is 6, I checked after I had posted this but still worth pointing out for the future that it might have helped! I myself often forget about surecast so it may be a bit hypocritical of me, but if pointing it out helps you or anyone reading this in the future then I think it's worth it! Also, thank you for the always informative and entertaining videos ❤️
@OneDemonsAdvocate oh absolutely it might have helped! And I do appreciate the suggestion, I hadn't even considered it in the moment! 😁 Thank you for the kind words!
There are only a few mechs I will tell the party how to handle in normal content before the pull, those Greg tethers on tanks and healers (if they're not dead) are 100% a warning in chat.
In hindsight I think I would warn too, but I just don't know how to explain it in short and specific enough of a message for it to make sense for a first timer! "Greg?! But this is yojimbo!" (tank pulls) 😂
Personally, if I'm new to a duty, I 100% do NOT want mechanics explained to me without prompting. Let me learn by seeing it and explain if it goes wrong. Since I'm all caught up, it's very unlikely to happen to me, but I've had friends playing through the first time more recently who've had fight mechanics spoiled for them, and it's ruined the experience for them.
@@DevInsanity Understandable, hence why I only do so in normal content when it can easily wipe the party. One mech there can take out both healers and if you have no smn/rdm you're restarting pretty far in to the fight and I'd rather one sprout know to leg it when they see a tether over 7 others redoing the whole fight.
I am 530 coms away (the rest will be done before I get the coms unless I somehow get a ton of 7 com trials or something. And I am down to a few Stormblood and all of shadowbringer extreme trials ( shooting to do 1 a day) but got all the dungeons, raids, guild heists level 90 quest chains done and Dawntrail will be my first expansion playing at release with everyone I am so excited for that. (I started a little before 6.55 came out have 5 90s 3 of them tanks the role I am actually trying to be good at and a bunch in the 80s and all but the black mage is 50+
In some ways, it is possible. However it involves abysmal party DPS and the tank being the only one bringing in big DPS lol (at least from how I interpreted ACT in random runs)
8:00 thats the reason why i even with my redmage never used swift cast ...XD my brain is just too stupid to use the dopplecast for a revive its just like there are 2 dmg skills connected ... even had a few times where i was not reviving because my swift cast was on cooldool untill a friendly mate told me "you can use dopplecast to revive you know that?" and i was like "of course im just an idiot right now.." xDDD 8:26 always important to know and understand own mistakes ... the only way you can learn from it ... and for someone making videos its even "better" to show them so others can learn from it without making the mistakes a lot themself :D 10:35 one of the best parts of the final fantasy 14 community .. most people dont blame at all and a lot of people say just "my bad" even if its not ... as a healer main i always hate it when someone says "my bad" and i as the healer know exactly "no im an idiot and watched you die for around 3 seconds .." :/ 16:03 the fight reminds me of my first rubicante last year ... random group and did it first try ... amount of revives? i stoped counting at 30 .. no joke xD 2 times healer lb 3 and funny enough 1 time just both tanks alive ... lucky revive timing but that situation not leading into a wipe was really funny to see ;D was so much fun for me as healer and in that case i was really happy about the fact that the whitemage can revive without mana cost ... xD
I'm honestly curious how you can level an Astrologian for at least 40 levels, not realise you need to deal damage and then decide to use it in a dungeon. I know you get Gravity at a decently late point in ARR, but not even single target attacks? Kinda makes me wonder whether they had done their job quests as those do require you to deal damage. Also, I recently did Aetherfont on New Game+ with Duty Support and had forgotten that the second boss has an "AoE beneath each player attack". Just happens so late in the fight that you don't really see it anymore these days.
See thats what I thought too, but I feel like every time I've seen them get close together, it seems like nothing happens! But I do think it is still just safer to split them, because if they are together, the frontal cleaves of them will either mean both tanks take twice the damage at times, or that they cover each others backs. Just not a good time!
I really appreciate spoiler warnings! I started playing recently and it's a fight to not be accidentally spoiled as I work through the MSQ for the first time.
