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ok, there is one ( or Two ) other possible payloads for F-15 E: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B61_nuclear_bomb en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B83_nuclear_bomb well... yeah ⚰☢
They can! But they get the benefit of 100+ missiles, 1000+ bullets, resistance to lethal G-forces (Pilot and plane), superplanes, and the ability to recover from any free fall due to stalling. We, aren't so lucky...
As I recall, one or two pilots did manage to get airborne and score some kills, but they were denied the Congressional Medal of Honor because they took off without orders. There will always be high-ranking numbskulls in the military!
I was stationed at Pearl back in 1941 when this F-15 showed up. It really freaked a lot of people out, but I explained to everyone that it was part of a RU-vid video that was being filmed in the area.
Assuming the F15 arrived ~1 hour before the Japanese attack - and could not radio with Pearl Harbour - one course of action would be to strafe the dockyard, and try to get the US Navy on high alert, try and lure as many planes into the air as possible before the actual enemy arrives.
IDK man. If you are in a piston fighter seeing something like a F-15 for the first time screaming through the air. Strafing wouldn't need to happen the loud sound of the Twin jet turbines would have scared the Sh!t out of the pilots. And honestly unless they knew that jet was on their side I highly doubt they would willingly get in the air.
@@Skeezle1986 You gotta do the wiggle. Dark Souls jokes aside, pilots can show peace, or comradery by rocking the wings side to side. Gotta do the wiggle
@@TheProdigalCat yes you can. But the Wiggle is still a fairly new. Less then 50 years during Vietnam is when the method was created. So during WWII they wouldn't know that the pilot is friendly unless they could see the symbols and insignias on the jet. Personally I'd love to see it for real. It would be worse than the Marianas Turkey Shoot lol.
Strangely enough, the best course of action for the F-15 pilot would not be to attack the enemy, but to attack the Americans! Even 10-20 minutes for the Navy to respond to an aerial attack from an unknown fighter would be enough to be semi-ready when the Japanese attack begins!
Don't intercept the Japanese immediately. Just go for a low pass to all strategic locations on the island such as AA batteries, airfields, and battleship row. Whole island will be on high alert.
like drop big bombs just meters away from ships and pelt empty runways with 20mm vulcan and then loiter around so you can emerge for a few seconds at a time to keep the americans on alert
Imagine being a pilot on a mission to destroy a target and this mystery plane with American symbols shows up, and it turns out to be 50-60 years ahead of you in development. "America has these wonder weapons that can destroy our fleet with a single aircraft from 20 miles out. If there's one, there must be more!" I'd quit right then and there
@@nquell2255 it would be magic to them "It's spitting flames out the back and going twice as fast!! And it's already going three times as fast as our quickest planes! This must be the devils at work"
High speed low pass with sonic boom would cause utter panic, especially since glass would break out from the bridge. Commanders would not know what to do to defend. Plus it would be funny.
True, except that would not actually happen, at least as far as the glass breaking thing. That's only in the movies. The Myth Busters actually tried that. They worked with the USAF and set up an experiment at Edward's AFB where they flew F-16s over a building they had constructed to see if a sonic boom could break the glass. The Air Force made several supersonic passes at near ground level and were unable to break the glass. Now, I should quality that by noting that mass has a lot to do with it. A more massive object like a meteorite can, and has in some cases, created a pressure wave that has shattered glass, for many miles in some cases. But a single F-15 just wouldn't do it. The noise, on the other hand, and the speed, might cause a few cases of soiled underwear.
@@rbilleaud Letu s review the actual movie the final countdown real Zeros and jet f14 fighters at nearly stall speed and still the jet wash almost splashed both zeros. If they had been going at full intercept the Mach wave at that close range would have caused the glass to implode not to mention if you, do it above a zero it will bounce them into the ocean. If the pilots don't know what is coming Hey can't even think of evasive maneuvers
@@phantasypublishing The fact that the Zero's flight control surfaces were not power assisted might make it even more challenging to recover the aircraft.
It have to be a laser guy that j damn's don't exist in 41 because there's no satellites for him so basically it have to be a laser guy to munitions although that time of day they could drop from high altitude lays a Target. and just bucks some s*** up one paveway per carrier might not destroy the carrier but if you could take the entire keto bowtie out of the entire picture for the first six seven months of the war that's a completely different Outlook.
Should just hover over the american airfield and make sure the American planes aren't destroyed on the ground. Once enough America planes takes off, go for the Japanese carriers and destroy their decks
@@jasonthomas9596 I don’t know, a single paveway per carrier placed well could do plenty of ship crippling damage. The Japanese carriers where notoriously under armored even during midway, with a single 500ib bomb crippling Soryu.. not to mention the Japanese ships had a huge red dot on the flight deck, I feel like you might not even need Paveways if it had ASMs,the F15 could probably cripple the entire fleet I would say, a pod of hellfire missiles 6 ASMs specifically for the carriers and 10 DBs
Stirr up the hornets' nest by flying by the US base. The sight and sound of an unknown aircraft would be enough to wake them up, send interceptors, and set up defences. While the Warhawks attempt to give chase, you can lead them to the Japanese planes which they can report back; while you go ahead and take care of the carriers. This would atleast give the US a fighting chance to save most of their ships.
This is the most realistic approach to take. However, it would have to be done on the 6th. There wouldn't be enough daylight on the 7th to make a meaningful difference. On the 6th, the crews could be all back onboard the ships, boilers lit, and everyone on high alert.
I have to wonder if this was inspired by Final Countdown. The premise is a 1980s aircraft carrier is transported back to Pearl Harbor in 1941. If you ever wanted to see Japanese zeroes get obliterated by F14s that’s the movie to watch XD
It's a cool idea. Now imagine things like Aztecs with machineguns or Vikings with the knowledge to cover their berserkers with winter coats, the possibilities are endless!
@@clev5624 I never played that version of Ace Combat. (Though when I was young I played the 3DS version and my favorite plane was the F6F Hellcat cause I could turn inside keys in dogfights and blast them with machine guns XD)
The attack relied completely on surprise. If the Japanese believed that they had lost the element of surprise, they would have immediately pulled back. A swift attack by the F-15, even if only a single bomb against one carrier, would have convinced the Japanese that they were spotted, that defenses on Pearl Harbor would be at high alert, and that a larger aerial response by the US would soon follow. The attack would have been called off, and they would have gotten out of there.
That Kill Eagle F-15 would of been to much at Once. Plue The risen Sun there sailors would not believe what they were seeing what was attacking them. And yes More of the fighters would not been hit so they would be in the air by now. Would of been a shit show for them. If could but we can't!!!
Nah. After seeing the approaching Japanese airplanes the F15 pilot should immediately turn and proceed to Pearly Harbor for a few low fly-by's while squeezing off a few bursts of it's guns (harmlessly into the water) to alert the Americans. Seeing this modern aircraft and not knowing quite what it was, would surely confuse the Americans but it would also scare the shit out of them and immediately put all ships into general quarters. The F15 should then turn to look towards the north and where those planes appeared to be coming from. The F15 radar would then spot the ships. The F15 could then approach the ships for an attack. The way I see it this would be the best option. It would give our boys in Pearl Harbor a fighting chance to defend themselves while giving the F15 pilot the opportunity to take out most of those carriers. The F15 pilot wouldn't even need to find or attack the Japanese fighters directly. With their carriers sunk ALL of those Japanese planes would have no option but to ditch at sea. We'd get every one of them without firing a shot. There really wouldn't have been any way for a single modern fighter to stop enough of those 353 Japanese aircraft to make much of a difference for Pearl Harbor. Any effort to engage the Japanese planes directly would have been largely a wasted effort. But by heading to Pearl first and giving our boys perhaps 15 minutes of advance notice it could have saved many lives and kept more than a few of our ships from being sunk. After those fly-by's the command at Pearl would have immediately alerted other airbases around the island so we wouldn't have lost as many of our planes. Also, knowing that a significant number of Japan's aircraft and carriers were lost in the effort would take some of the sting out of any losses at Pearl.
@@mr.nemesis6442 There was strict observance of radio silence. Once the planes were under way and that close to their target, the Japanese naval commanders likely wouldn't have tried to stop the planes anyway.
Simply flying at low altitude over the carriers and creating a sonic boom as the Japanese were preparing their planes would've stopped it all. They'd know they were spotted, and would freak out. Unsure if the sonic boom would do any damage to anything, but that would be a bonus.
Imagine, US pilots on the way out on a suicidal counterattack, knowing they won't return. As they approach, they see tall towers of billowing smoke. A fleet of unimaginable size... but as they get closer, they see flames, and three leaning ships. The bow of a carrier standing on end as it sinks blow the surface. Japanese planes are circling overhead, many crashing into the ocean, others falling out of the sky. This is the correct fleet. This is the enemy... and someone. Or something... destroyed them. Decades pass and this mystery is never solved. The phantom ghost of the pacific. An act of God defending the US homeland. A divine wind...
Agreed quite an image. I kind of think the creators of the 1980s classic movie "The Final Countdown" had it right in terms of how the Japanese pilots in A6M Zeroes would react to a scenario in which they were confronted by modern jet fighters. In the scene, the Japanese pilots were originally shocked by the appearance of the jets, but reacted professionally and tried to fight as best they could.
I think an interesting option that would not only cause damage to the Japanese Fleet but to also repel the attack itself would be for the F-15 to initially attack Pearl Harbor. 2-3 200 lbs bombs a half hour before the attack, combined with simulated strafing runs from an unidentified, advanced, and "hostile" aircraft would mobilize the bases air defense. The battleships are unlikely to get underway but the islands several hundred aircraft now in the air or on alert along with all the AA will give the Japanese strike one hell of a fight. Then the F-15 can go hit the carrier group with its remaining bombs.
That's exactly my thoughts! Let em feel the cannon burst about 10 times or so they'll get out of dodge, even if their entire decks are not shot to pieces. Let the ol cannon rumble on their command decks a bit and see how they enjoy lacking an admiral and captn.
You're thinking wrong. I would buzz the U S base, maybe a a few strafing runs on a useless building to put the base on full alert. Afterwards backup the fighters after they launch.
Best not to wait until the last minute. Thanks to the anti- sabotage status, the time required to get the planes in proper shape and airborne would probably be measured in hours.
@@kenduncan3221 - I don't agree. It would take the US years just to understand the electronics. Having the knowledge of where your enemies are and what they will do is a far more powerful asset then any single plane or even an entire fleet.
@@namelessking8905 It will take a while to reverse engineer but solid state technology is not complex. The pilots knowledge is useful in the first couple of months but gets more unreliable as time passes. Having remembered tech specs would be very useful though. Knowing that the US Sub torpedoes are crap should be very useful.
@@namelessking8905 So after December 7, from the top of your head, what was thejr next target, and what time did they hit it? In scenario's like this everyone thinks we 'know' history, but we only know the big picture. What date, what time, how many divisions, in what direction? The first attack, was it on Wheeler or Hickam field? Attacked from the East or West, or both sides? Hong Kong will be attacked. Good to know. Now how do we get troops there in time? The US army is trying to mobilize, the British army is stretched to the limit already, and the Dutch army is on the defensive in Indonesia At what time did the first strike hit WaKe island? They did not have radar, soyour memory better be accurate ..
Step 1: make at least two low, supersonic passes over Pearl Harbor to wake the Americans up, maybe strafe the dockyard a bit if you really want to get dark about it. Step 2: take your load of 28 StormBreakers and target the Japanese carriers with 3 each. Go for the rear quarter of the ship, program the bombs so that they land one after another on the same spot of the ship. That way you blow the flight deck with the first one, blow the hanger deck with the second, and hopefully get their engines with the third. Step 3: find their fuel tankers with that big fancy radar of yours, end them with a StormBreaker a piece. End results: * Pearl Harbor is on high alert by the time the Japanese planes get there, mitigating losses. * All 6 of the Japanese fleet carriers are severely damaged and potentially dead in the water with engine damage, preventing the returning planes from landing. * The Japanese oil tankers are mostly wiped out, meaning the Japanese fleet has no way home for the time being. * The US Navy (of the time) would likely be able to dispatch strikes to clean up the disabled ships. * The Japanese lose pretty much everything they sent on that mission.
F15 with a tactical thermonuclear bomb would finish their entire fleet within 2 seconds. No need for anything else to say, a above water detonation and distance from Hawai should minimise or nullify any radioactive colletarals.
Below water detonation is far more defective though… given that they’d be a couple hundred kilometres from pearl harbour it would probably be better to just accept the contamination. Most of the Japanese fleet would be destroyed on impact and the survivors would have their crews killed by the radioactive water raining down on them.
That 20mm Vulcan would do a lot of damage to the planes. Hell, just the jet wash could take down some of the Japanese planes. That F16 'buzzing' some of them would cause them to go into some crazy spins. And think about how distracting that would be, they would not see anything, then something buzzing by them at about 4 times their speed shooting at them than disappearing into an altitude they can't even come close to. It would certainly mess things up.
Less interesting, but a noteworthy upper end of the effectiveness a single F-15 could have: It appears that the B61 nuclear bomb is still in active service and is cleared for deployment on the F-15e. It weighs 1200 pounds (so several could be carried even with additional fuel to facilitate high speed bombing runs). Yield can be dialed down to 0.3kt, perhaps reducing fuel consumption needed to flee the bomb blast?
They have done that, in a movie, The Final Countdown, except a whole Aircraft Carrier, The USS Nimitz and its F-14s were sucked into a time warp back to Dec 7 just before they attacked Pearl Harbor... A great movie...
Belgium would hardly conquer Luxemburg with tremendous losses. History has proven that we are shining in the art of being steamrolled by our neighbours. Our defeats are our legends, Eben Emael, King's decision to surrender in 1940, Schlieffen plan. Our pride is to have successully kept 5km square of our country free from germans during WWI. In order the belgium conquers the world scenario possible, Binkov would have to find a reason to convince ALL belgians regions to go to war with any chance of not being obliterated. Good luck with that.
Even with only minutes, its still better to provide ANY possible warning to Pearl. If beleivability is an issue, slam a couple missiles into empty patches of runway or harbor and buzz battleship row. That would stir the hornets nest right quick.
I agree. I have always thought if Pearl would have had 10-15 minutes warning (or even more), they could have gotten many planes in the air and started moving ships, and had their guns at the ready. That would have helped lessen the losses.
What if Before you attack the carriers, you simply do a low altitude fly-by over the US naval base That oughta get the message across to get ready for battle. 10 minutes of preparation can save hundreds of lives
You forgot the alternativ where the F-15 could just make low flyby on Pearl Harbor, that would put the entire island on Alert, giving the US a chance to get fighters in the Air as a unknown plane hade made it into the base
Imagine being an American fighter pilot, getting up in the air and trying to chase down the f-15 only for it to lead you to the entire Japanese attack, before forming up at the lead of your squad in formation
ABSOLUTELY!!! The F-15 wouldn't need any weapons just buzzing Pearl Harbor at mach speed In a modern jet would be enough to put the entire base on alert....mission accomplished!
Couple major issues. The 2 waves of aircraft were launched about 1.5 hours apart. Meaning if you attacked the carriers while the 1st wave was attacking. The 2nd wave would be on the carriers. Or waited for the 2nd wave to attacked, the 1st wave would be getting rearmed for a possible 3rd wave that got canceled. Agree bombs would be a better load out, but you are incorrect that cruise missles would be the same as 500lb bombs. Even the smallest warhead on a Harpoon has double the warhead of the GBU 12 (500lb paveway bomb) And those extremely heavy mk 33 1000lb bombs used in ww2. They had very small war heads. Actually even smaller than the GBU 12 in size (only 150lbs) But the explosive force would be greater than the MK 33 AP bombs used in 1942. PBXN is at minimum 1.2x more than that of TNT.
Matt, to your first point, I would suggest the initial attack be against the cruising ships outside of their aircraft range and using minimal munitions, simply to turn to formation from it's attack. Make a bombing run across the first carrier, dropping a couple smaller bombs to damage the flight deck, go supersonic and climb to a loitering position to see how the fleet reacts. Yamamoto was enough of a tactician to know he was still outside the known American aircraft's range and the sonic boom would probably be taken as one or more additional explosions, since the sound was virtually unknown at the time. At best, you may panic the attack group enough to believe the element of surprise was lost and abort the mission. At worst, the attack group announces themselves with one carrier making smoke from the fires or they lose one carrier from the formation, reducing the available aircraft for the attacks and you can turn and burn for Pearl, scare the alert squadron into action and still have most of your munitions available for round two, since you can be on scene to intercept the fleet a second time while still leading the US alert squadron to the Japanese fleet, do initial damage and let the full force of the military base come to bare.
You missed the most effective weapon the F-15 would have available... turbulence from a jet engine. Would just need a pilot with some math skills to figure out how far away they could get away with staying whilst still inducing mass stalls for the Japanese planes.
Nice point. The jet's speed would so much faster where the Japanese planes wouldn't have a chance. Strafe them from behind then catch them in the jet's turbulence after ammunition is depleted. And he's wrong. It wouldn't take nearly as long for the jets to turn around as he claims.
Flying Mach 2 close to the Japanese aircraft formations and creating a sonic boom might also do a bit of damage. Perhaps that could even shatter the canopy glass of those old aircraft.
No real mention of the psychological freak out the presence of the F-15 would have? It would be something so outside of their experience that to the people of the time it would seem like they were being attacked by an alien spacecraft
Yeah an alien spacecraft piloted by an alien with a hick accent hollaring "Murica, fuck yeah!" on the radio as it drops previously unimaginably powerful bombs on the Japanese carriers
This could be a movie. A Terminator is sent back to stop Pearl Harbor. He fully equips (maximum destruction power) & hijacks an F-15, equips it with a flux capacitor, uses 1 of his nuclear power supplies to power the machine, goes back in time & disables/destroys all but 1 carrier before planes take off, shoots down the planes that get off the 1 carrier before they get to Pearl, goes back, crash lands (not a long enough runway) on the functional carrier, terminates everyone on board, fixes the damaged F-15 on the trip back to Japan & rigs up a catapult for it to take off again. Once in Tokyo, he terminates Tojo & the rest of the hierarchy, rigs up extra jet fuel tanks to get his F-15 across Asia, lands on a runway outside of Berlin, makes his way in & runs thru all the Nazis protecting Hitler & when he finds him, the movie ends with him saying to Hitler, "Hasta La Vista, Baby" & the sound of a bullet being shot. End Credits
The best strategy would be to shoot up the water in Pearl Harbor, create chaos without hurting anybody. This would get everybody prepared and head to battle stations before the Japanese arrived. One F-15 could get the U.S. Naval station battle ready and prepared as they arrived. Then use remaining ammo on the first wave.
Using a Strike Eagle Harpoon loadout. Go super sonic over pearl harbor. Maybe do a dive and strafing run real fast to get peoples attention that the boom is from a plane( since they won't know what a sonic boom is) . Then punch it to the Japanese fleet. If you go high, it will be about a 10 minute to 12 minute trip before you are in range and go weapons hot. Take them out with Harpoons, call it a day. You could also just use a tactical nuke like an M61. A single modern fighter is going to have virtually no impact in fight a massive amount of WW2 planes. You will run out of ammo and only make a scratch.
If you could send the F-15 back to December 7th, you would also be able to send it back to the evening of the 6th. Then it could wipe the fleet out under cover of darkness and nobody would ever know what happened to the lost Japanese fleet.
The best thing to do would be to drop a 500# bomb near Battleship row 5 minutes before the Japanese attack, followed by a strafing run on another base, missing people and equipment. This would alert the 1941 military and have them at their guns when the Japanese attack. It would also still allow his follow up attack on the Japanese fleet as depicted in this video. Also after the attack run on Battleship row and a nearby airbase, his radio call would not be ignored any longer. Use force multiplication, with only sacrificing minimal ordinance.
There was a movie with Kirk Douglas from 1980 called The Final Countdown where the aircraft carrier USS Nimitz went through a time warp to end up back in 1941 a few days before Pearl Harbor, an F-14 Tomcat has a dogfight with an A6M Zero. Cool movie, I won't spoil the ending.
Suggestion: force US forces to be on alert by ineffectively attacking the US forces... say by blowing up a couple of fuel dumps & strafing something to be noisy, but of minimal military value. 10 minutes might be worthwhile.
@@ChessNoobX no way Laser guided bombs are most efficient. Even an f15ex stacked with anti-air would still not Change the war. But with like 40 SDBs and a targeting pod you could do some serious shit
I’ll do you one better How would’ve D-Day played out if an AC-130 was sent back in time? Can you imagine the horror stories the axis forces would tell?
Oh those poor souls on D-Day my friend. The AC-130 would have been nearly untouchable, and could you imagine 3 or 4 AC-130's escorting those Lancaster's and B-1's into their drop locations? The aircraft the opposition had at the time would have had a difficult time stopping the AC-130 considering it's onboard weaponry. The 25mm gat would have made mince meat out of the oppositions aircraft, not to mention the absolute horror that 105mm howitzer and 40mm BOFORS Cannon could cause on the ground and over water on the opposition's navy.
@@soulessshadow5356 no no no you guys are thinking to small a B-52 Stratofortress with 84 500lb bombs would have annihilated the whole German Normandy coastline and the U-boat pens lol
Why buzz the tower? Tower would have said look we've ignored the 83 intercepted msgs from Yamamoto to the carriers we've ignored our own radar operator telling us the Japanese are here were letting this shit go down end of
@@tommytmt That was it. I saw it years ago on regular cable I think . Cool movie, I remember they we're literally preparing for war. They were all fired up, loading missiles, prepping fighters for full out battle, then right before they were going to launch, they went back to current time. One of those frustrating endings.
The pilot in this scenario should save one bomb and a couple of rounds for reverse engineering efforts. They wouldn't be able to recreate much, but imagine getting technology several decades newer than what you have now. Heck, debriefing the pilot would be a treasure trove in itself.
One final scenario was missed for this F15E sortie. One precision B61-11 with a 400kt yield detonated at 1000' above the fleet would result in a very bad day for all of them.
The F-15 can carry a nuke. I'd load it out with some rockets or regular bombs, but I would send it with a nuke. High altitude drop. They would never know it's coming and a nuke would destroy the entire fleet.
Anything you put on the F15 would need to be laser guided, bombs like the Stomrbreaker that use GPS/INS would be useless due to a lack of GPS satellites and issues with initialising the INS. Attacking the ships is by far the best option but it would also be important that after the attack the F15 drops down to low altitude and does a low pass over the ships going as fast as it possibly can. A supersonic flyby of an aircraft that had just singlehandedly destroyed the fleet would end the Pacific War that afternoon.
@@koc988 for sureand it would be a million times more accurate than anything in WW2. Laser guidance though will guarantee a precise hit that would easily sink or disable the ship.
@@MagpieOz lol nice pick up on the GPS not existing! This attack has just screwed with it's development big time though, cause you just stopped Australia ever entering the war & forming an alliance with America, so even the moon landing now has issues
I would offer the suggestion of the F-15 actually performing strafing runs on Pearl Harbor itself...At 10 mins prior to the attack, defenses would already scrambled and in place when the Japanese arrived.
Do a flyby at over Mach 1. The sonic boom would be interpreted as an explosion that happened nearby and it would have the same effect as actually bombing without the bomb damage. There would be broken windows and not much else. The Japanese raid would be met with active anti-air defenses and fighters already in the air.
If the pilot knew where he was and what was about to happen, and a radio alert wasnt possible, he should fire "warning shots" at some of the ally ships to put them on alert. but I get the scenario. Even an entire aircraft carrier with modern planes could only do so much with limited supplies
Could a single T-72 brigade change the disaster of Barbarossa? Could a single Mistral help Napoleon invasion of Brittain Could a single mobile GPS help the Romans at Teutoburg
Eh the pilot could just fly away without any Zero even knowing it’s there,but it wouldn’t make a huge impact regardless due to limited ammo as you said
Flying Mach 2.5 near the formations of relatively flimsy Japanese aircraft might damage them all without firing a shot. Japanese pilots might not enjoy canopy glass shattering, and who knows what else would happen to those aircraft.
@@robertc.9503 I know. Just saying, the general concept of a time travelling future US military back to Pearl Harbour has been done in cinema, for people who might not have known and will find the idea interesting.
@@Tanga2460 I'm joking. But maybe if the CRAM, properly positioned etc., went full beast mode at stopping all but a tiny bit of damage from happening. The gov would be pissed, but maybe not enough to launch war over a tiny bit of damage.
@@asheer9114 easy you let the attack happen and just nuke the Japanese Taskforce . No one will believe the US has a weapon like that and if they did the Japanese just attacked the Harbour
@@asheer9114 nobody would know. Especially if there were no survivors. Wreckage would be radioactive but they wouldnt understand why. America would have kept the information to themselves
Sounds like using the f-15 to attack the carriers would make the most sense. Also, I can't believe that we're having this discussion at all. The internet is weird and fun.
Hollywood made a movie like this years ago. An aircraft carrier gets shifted back to just before Pearl Harbour and the Captain had to decide whether to intervene or not. He never got involved, he said he couldn't change history. I think i was called The Final Countdown
The F-15 only had to fly fast and low over the american airfields and ships. That would scare the shit out of them and they would definitely be alarmed and ready to fight the japanese planes following. Simple as that.
Or do the same thing over the Japanese battle group and they’d turn around before the attack happened at all. A Japanese Zero top speed is 350mph, an F-15’s is 1,600mph.. you fly by at 1,600 mph in the 1940’s everyone is going to run from your military..
@@Ivan.A.Churlyuski though at low altitudes going that speed the airframe would probably get damaged or destroyed, but yes jets can go close to the speed of sound at sea level
@@michael6485 Certainly, but what makes it a far better fit is its armor and payload ability. Also, most of the planes sent by the IJN were torpedo planes or dive bombers. They figured if it was a surprise attacks, the (normally) designated fighter escort was not necessary to provide. Plus, more planes targeting ships/land targets = more destruction of the US pacific fleet. I just felt the A-10 would end up with more kills than an F-15. I believe the f-15 would have to damn near stall in order to aquire a missle lock, and not all missles are 100% effective. Naturally, there are a lot of variables here to consider. So, I see no right or wrong answers here. Just that some options are better than others.
@@michael6485 most propeller planes could not catch up to it, The A10s cruising speed is faster than the Zero's max speed. The service ceiling is about 10k feet higher too. The a10 could fly in at high speed at high altitude and no early war Japanese planes could hope of catching it
Lol. Nothing can take down the A10. Even if it was shot multiple times it'd survive. So great choice. I reckon that woulda been a better pick for this mission too.
This was a real movie where a nimitz class carrier gets telaported back to 1941 with a full force But they get telaported back before they could stop the planes
There was a similar movie called The Final Countdown when I was a kid. It was about this happening to a Nimitz class carrier. Saw it recently and holy crap are the sfx... a reflection of technology of the time.
So far, near the end, you haven't said anything about a jet like that flying at supersonic speeds, past propeller aircraft. The sonic shock wave would take many fighters out of the sky, without armaments. I'd dive and fly through the formations at as far as supersonic I could go. The primitive planes would often be ripped apart. Then I'd go for the carriers
F15e can carry B61-3 nukes with a selectable yield of 0,3/1,5/60/170 kT. So yes. A single pre prepared F15 would absolutely be able to change the outcome of the battle.
@@Ben-ig3bf I‘m by no means an expert on nuclear warfare, but I would say, they’d use a low yield airburst to get rid of any enemy planes, and a high yield detonation to remove the he rest of the fleet… (the first would be low yield and the second far away, so that fallout would be negligible) Edit: if anyone knows better, please correct me
A single F15E could turn this battle into overwhelming victory. Load it up with a B83 1.2 megatons on maximum yield. Drop it in middle of the Japanese carrier fleet. Inform Japanese command they’re dealing with a technological force 50+ years more advance. With a single air craft their entire task force was destroyed with 0 survivors. Surrender or face extinction.
Instead of Nuclear. Why not just bring Guided Bombs/Missiles as many as it can carry and just sink 6 of their Carrier. Sure, Pearl Harbor would still be destroyed, but the US will be on upper-hand even early in the war.
Riiiight. Ever seen a fleet at sea? You aware of the fact they are not close to each other right? They literally tried attacking ships with nukes after the war and found it difficult when they were stationary, and next to impossible while they are underway. As for overwhelming victory, Japan lost the war as soon as they launched the attack on Pearl Harbour. They started a war they could not win. Armchair generalship at its very worst! At best you *may* catch a couple of carriers in the blast, however they are spaced out far enough that most of the task force would be outside the blast area. Ships at sea almost never sail very close to each other except under certain circumstances. Take a look at Atlantic Convoys, those ships sailed relatively close yet they were still spread out over DOZENS of square miles.....
@@alganhar1 Well you’re in luck! The b-83 has 80 times the yield, of little boy. So the fire blast damage would cover about 80 square miles, And anyone caught up to 220 square miles would suffer third degree burns. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kantai_Kessen#/media/File:Japanese_fleet_on_display.jpg. This looks less than 200 miles apart. Id say a b83 would have a good effect on target. Idiotic contrarian opinion at its worst!
