Alright just putting it out there, I'm pretty sure the point of this mod is supposed to be a satirisaion of an alien species arrogantly looking at humanity through the lense of a failed species. To those claiming this "political" or that the modder doesn't understand "x,y,z" please direct your attention to the fucking shoe labled as a weapon.
Reminder that the rockets used for early space travel were based on the V-2 rocket, which was a long range guided ballistic missile, designed for warfare.
Look Jolly, i understand the author's intent to frame it as an alien museum trying to explain abandoned human pieces, but it feels arrogant because a lot of these come across as shallow expressions of sociopolitical discontent, one minute you have a cheeky shoe confused as an advanced weapon, the next is a poorly disguised complain about the thrash on the oceand as "antifauna weapon", maybe if the "complains" weren't so on the nose it would be more tolerated. It's ok if you liked it Jolly, you keep doing yourself, we love it.
Jolly, the author of the mod literally came in the comments of this video to say that they made this into a rather doom-centric phase of their vision of the world, and that they grew past it... it may have bits of humor, but the complaints are still warranted
Dear Jolly, I'd like to know more about these organisms decomposing wood, that were not around at the time the first trees appeared. Would you kindly provide me with a (I do not like that term) *source* or the name of the book/page/anything, where I can find more information about the possible timeline of evolution of wood destruents? Best regards.
all jokes are tinged with truth. nobody makes a joke they don't at least partly believe in, and it takes certain vitriol towards humanity to write this stuff without eventually going "nevermind this was stupid" and throwing it into the recycle bin.
It honestly sounds like something Camus would write. Meursault, reincarnated as an Australian, wanders through a museum confused and armed with a revolver he stole from an exhibit. (In defiance of Chekhov's Gun, the revolver never does anything, because of course it's pointless). When he comes across an exhibit dedicated to L'etranger, he goes "Meh," then approximately 2 seconds later goes "Kitty!" at the sight of a kitty and completely forgets what he was doing. He then wanders off, completely misses the point of missing the point of art, walks straight past the one exhibit dedicated to the museum's creator (Tea), argues that the Voyager Records were actually props from a TV show, and ends his tour reflecting on how much he liked Beast Wars. I think Jolly has an *extremely* good grasp of Camus-style Absurdism, precisely because he has no idea what it is and is just living life in the moment. *TL;DR*: In the face of the absurdity and pointlessness of all human endeavor, Meursault goes willingly to his end because he really liked Beast Wars.
@@Okusar He's so dyslexic that when someone else tries to tell him something but fails because of dyslexia, his dyslexia can do a minus on minus = plus and read it correctly.
Jolly single handed placed the concept of a stupid man being used as a lab rat for "aliens", despite having other human subjects that are far smarter if not outright better, they keep him (not getting rid of the others btw) as he somehow created a grey area between what makes a person or a wild animal into my mind.
thats literally the most accurate and fucking funniest way of describing Jolly for some reason Like, literally I'm fucking screaming at my screen half the time with some of these videos. Genuinely fucking incredible
I cant tell If Jolly genuinely doesn't know what the golden disk actually is and just thinks it's a transformers reference or if he's just being funny. Jolly is only ever dumb or not quite as dumb as you think, which keeps you guessing. Jolly could troll for days and we'd be none the wiser.
Those first trees that couldn’t be digested by anything got buried and slowly turned into coal. The fact that there are now organisms which can digest wood is the reason that no more coal can ever be produced on Earth - once it’s gone, it’s gone forever.
@@My_Old_YT_Account I don’t think the moon is geologically active enough to produce coal like earth does, Mars might be a better place for that, though it still seems to be less active than earth. Though really, investing in better energy sources is a lot easier and cheaper in both time (decades to improve nuclear power and whatnot vs millions of years to get coal) and money (it cost about $10,000 for every pound we send into space. A space gun would be cheaper though, even better if it were in orbit connected to a space elevator). Also coal forms best when the material is buried in a swamp environment, so we’d need to terraform Mars before we even thinking about pelting it with trees.
Why do you just make shit up? There is coal being actively formed today, we won't be able to use it for millions of years, but it is still happening. It wasn't just from goddamn trees lmao.
The space race came from, and supported, the development of ICBMs and the idea to weaponize space using kinetic weapons... So that still has origins in our desire to wipe out each other.
@@salamander4668 Wait until you found out where the basics and concept of both the Saturn-V and H-1 came from and what it was developed from, and ultimately what it was developed into afterwards
@@PefectPiePlace2 Im literally just saying how, it would be cool if they used information that is provided IN the golden record, to make this mod. As in having a perspective of the aliens, that were learning from the record itself.
My guess is that he saw a comment saying "Your dyslexia is faked!" so Jolly just released an 11 minute 47 second video of him butchering and barely succeeding to read and comprehend big black text on a white background with objects on top of a podium
You know that the disk is a real thig, yes? It is NOT from a movie, It is currently attatched to the chassis of the two voyagers mission probes, which one of them has left the solar system.
8:22 The space race was in the middle of the Cold War. The rockets used were a means of showing off to either side that they had intercontinental ballistics.
Based on the fact that the andromeda galaxy was used for the image. This may imply that this is litterally billions of years into the future which would make sense why the earth has no life on it, and that these aliens dont understand things. In fact it may also imply that these aliens are in fact the descendants of humans due to the fact that your player character is supposed to be one of them.
>wheel, the only great filter they passed Not space, fire, agriculture, multicellular life or any other big thing? It’s the round piece of wood that counts as a filter?
We didn't exactly do terribly well in the whole space department. We've only reached a nearby rock ourselves and sent some incredibly slow robots out there to look at other stuff for us.
Should've counted fire as a great filter, fair. I think aliens might categorize filters differently based on how easily they passed them. Maybe this alien species just invented the wheel terribly late! After the leg-o-mobile 🦀
Well, I guess the goldilocks zone, a large amount of liquid water, global magnetic field, cellular life, oxygen in the air, multicellular life, air-breathing life, closed blood circulation, warmblood,, social group, opposing thumb, clear emotion communication, language, fire, only intelligent species, spreading around the world, house building, agriculture, animal farming, metal forging, civilization-building, social structures, laws, trading, currency, ships, machines, steel, electronics, internet, freedom recognised as a right, social services, vaccines, medicine, nanotechnology, the moon landing and evading mutual assured nuclear destruction multiple times was not great filter, but the wheel, that was the shit.
I'm pretty sure that was the whole point of the map that people are missing by calling it a "reddit moment". I thought the shoe part would have tipped people off that this is a space fairing species arrogantly judging us for our mistakes while making mistakes of their own but apparently not.
@@jollysbigolvideohole9402 I think that if a superior species came and saw us they wouldn't be that arrogant or emotional with the text, tho the concept is good, i can't stop the feel of "reddit moment" but I get the point.
"Something will probably come along eventually" "That's like fuck yeah plastic's delicious, oh my god there's so much of it". The eventually is now. I recall seeing an article half a year ago about the discovery of a plastic eating bacteria actually. Course there're a lot of different polymers out there so it's not like one bacterium will fit all plastics.
@@nikewilly8404 Or we could try to work on both, which is what is actually happening. Plastic-eating bacteria aren't going to magically solve the plastic pollution problem, at least not yet. :)
That third piece of art was a reference to "piss christ" - a crucifix in human urine. I believe the mapper's joke was that despite people claiming it isn't art at all, it ended up as one of three images an alien species used to show the purpose of human art
Actually they've been working on bioengineering species to degrade microplastics for a while now. The challenge is to not making them so good at it that they then eat plastics that we're actively using.
I loved when Jolly saw the golden record he immediately associated it with beast wars lmao For those who may not know, the golden record is considered our first physical message into interstellar space aboard the Voyager 1 and Voyager 2 crafts. Which is how the other species portrayed in this mod apparently located Earth and found it deserted..
"Not every human invention is from war, what about that rock in the sky? We wanna get to that rock in the sky." Jolly, my sweet innocent child, its time you learnt about the V2 rockets of germany, ww2.
"Toilet - A chair for the excretion part of metabolism It is known that one gay human worshipped toilets like god" "I don't know who that is but god do I love a good toilet" Jolly, did you or are you going to come out?
9:58 A little more heartwarming, we made art, taking our creativity to make something positive instead of destructive, kind of a bummer the new world dominate life-forms don't really "get" it.
This made me think - although points were made in the exhibition, maybe a lot of it is influenced by the fact that’s it’s been made by a more advanced species who have likely defeated/conquered/outlived others. They’re looking at everything through the surface-level lens of “is this useful for survival?” and so they don’t get art (even though that is useful in its own way)
Funny you should mention the tree issue when talking about plastics. The main issue was with why trees couldn't be eaten was all the cellulose in them. If you're a chemistry nerd you should already see where I'm going with this. For everyone else: Plastics (or "polymers") are just the same small molecule repeating over and over in a line, like chain links forming a chain. Well... Cellulose is exactly that. It's just glucose chained together into really long fibers. So technically speaking the very first "plastic" Earth ever saw was wood!
"They falsely believed their own morals superior to machine morals." Who wrote the machine morals...? They didn't spring out of the void fully formed and unquestionably logical...
I like to think that these sorts of things are when we discover aliens and aliens try to pretend we don't exist despite us still being alive. "Homo sapian is dead. We will never understand them fully." "WE'RE RIGHT HERE ASSHOLE."
Cool one. I like the Golden Record detail. I did know about the trees thing, it's interesting because this period of time made it possible to create large deposits of coal, IIRC most of that was in what is now North America. And sadly, space exploration wasn't a product of peace :( in fact, the first rocket to ever cross into space was launched by Germany... in 1944. The whole story about space exploration being a peaceful endeavour is mostly modern revisionism (I'm using it as a neutral/non-negative term)
The only channel that i truly love to watch, cause i never will know what video will be uploaded. Is it silly mod, a extremely hard mod or that one time jolly didn't know what the title ment looked it up what it ment, only to realize it and still went through like a champ
I love how jolly missed a shit ton of stuff that was also in the museum because he can't fucking look around because like he probably doesn't have a mouse and fucking memory
Jolly talks about how going to the moon didnt come from war The moon landings were pressured upon by the arms race between the USSR and the US Which came about because of the cold war ...Which is a war
To go even further from that, many of the top scientists of early NASA were literal Nazi rocket scientists we nabbed after WW2. See Operation Paperclip.
Megatron(Decepticon) had found and encoded a message on thr Golden Disk telling future descandants how to one day use Transwarp technology to go back in time and change history so that the Decepticons would emerge the victors of the Great War. Megatron(Predacon), who took his namesake after the original, sought to carry out this plan, thus setting into motion the events of Beast Wars.
He missed the fucking tea, ethanol and water displays at the culture room EVEN THOUGH HE WAS LOOKING AT THEM AFTER THE BANANA THING. I'm irrationally angry.
Your car must be very shitty and old to produce that shit. And with Adblue and Euro V and VI emissions, cars are virtually super clean now including Diesel trucks.
@8:20 actually, considering that the most success with space travel stemmed from the "space race" where the US and Russia were trying to beat eachother to the moon first, you could say even THOSE inventions originated from war.
@@salamander4668 space race, not the first rockets. you can say the same about the scientists at NASA during that period but the money comes from the nation interested in applying their inventions on ballistic missiles. same as the soviets
@@piscessoedroen the only thing that connects ballistic missiles with the space race is that rockets were based on them, like vostok, for example. Space race wasn't about testing icbms, It was about political power and proving, whos ideology is better
So, fun fact about Trains. they ARE the most efficient long distance personnel and freight transit system, so much so that if you ask an AI to completely omit the concept of trains, it'll re-invent one from scratch.
Man Jolly has ZERO peripheral vision, looked straight at the BED twice, then walked straight past it, the same with Tea, Ethanol and Water, also he walks into the Weapons room, and the first thing he spots was a rock and not the GIANT fucking text on the wall. This almost hurt to watch. But pretty interesting map nonetheless.
The art at 9:52 is a reference to “Piss Christ” by Andres Serrano, which was a snub to both the art world and religion. Good choice for the exhibit 😅 en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piss_Christ
"I am a redditor and don't know, who Tsiolkovsky, Esnault-Pelterie or Goddard were or what they did. I also have never heard about Opel-RAK, but I would make some edgy comment because I am 14 and it sounds so deep to me". Just try to google next time.
Actually the coals of the Earth are mainly from the era when nothing can digest the tree at all. The plastics could also turn into oils after millions or billons years later.
jolly's combined tunnel vision and inability to read is the most relatable thing about him and is a comfort in at least one of the many categories of "why i would not make a good streamer" i say this affectionately. never change
"not all invention originated from wars, some came from "lets get to that rock in the sky""...(paraphrased) Does jolly know about why the "space race" was so important? Or about the "cold war" in general?
@@slyseal2091 Just because they were around doesn't mean they couldn't be improved upon further. The greatest publicity stunt in history is the US government giving NASA the task of going to the moon so they could dump as much of the public's money as possible into developing nuclear delivery systems.
