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A TOTALLY RADICAL Look at Quack Pack 

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In 1993, the folks over at Disney Television Animation created a show where Huey, Dewey & Louie where depicted as modern, relevant teenagers. After 3 years in the making, Disney fans got to see the fruit of their labour, and were promptly confused and annoyed. Quack Pack has been a source of mockery ever since it was first seen, but there had to be some things it did right. Are there good qualities? Yeah, I found a few. Is the show a timeless Disney classic? Don’t make me laugh.

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@EmployeeAMillion
@EmployeeAMillion Год назад
Just to clear up a little mistake at the start of this video, the 2nd creator’s name is actually Toby Shelton, not Todd. And I found the character art of Dewey flipping something off on his blog, where he acknowledges Disney fans thought the redesigns were “sacrelige”. I haven’t a thing against him, no matter what I think of Quack Pack, and I’m sorry for getting his name wrong. The moral of the story is don’t lie around thinking you don’t have to proofread your script.
@itsjoshua2508
@itsjoshua2508 Год назад
Do you take requests
@Sparrows1121
@Sparrows1121 Год назад
I unapologetically love Quack Pack and i am not ashamed to say so
@DTWX
@DTWX Год назад
Same here & the redesigns are bitchin'. 😎👍
@not_so_slck9298
@not_so_slck9298 10 месяцев назад
@@DTWXthe redesigns is what pulled me in the most
@thebatman9628
@thebatman9628 8 месяцев назад
Yea I would be mad if I miss a episode of this show
@jacoblee21
@jacoblee21 7 месяцев назад
I really enjoy the cartoon! Not only do I still own the DVD, but I wrote a movie adaptation of it as well.
@zefanjabakker2675
@zefanjabakker2675 12 дней назад
Same
@princessstar512
@princessstar512 Год назад
Take a shot for every time the moral of the story is don’t lie.
@adampellett4917
@adampellett4917 4 месяца назад
Just like when Disney cancelling cartoons I really liked. The Owl House and Star vs the forces of evil even Gravity Falls.
@princessstar512
@princessstar512 4 месяца назад
@@adampellett4917 To my knowledge The Owl House is the only one out of all of those that was cancelled. From what I’ve heard Gravity Falls and Star vs the Forces of Evil ended on their own terms.
@Marcusstar-kd6zn
@Marcusstar-kd6zn 4 месяца назад
Honestly i don't know about anyone else but I Loved Quack Pack it's a happy childhood memories I'm not ashamed to admit it
@historiaestmagistravitae.7051
@historiaestmagistravitae.7051 9 месяцев назад
The thing about the delay in showing that series was that it was supposed to be shown differently than what we got. According to Jymm Magon, one of the creators of other Disney Afternoon series, especially Talespin, said that the original Duck Daze as a sequel to Ducktales showed Donald returning from the Navy and taking over his Uncle Scrooge's business, with Donald's nephews helping him, and Daisy will be his support. However, due to a disagreement with the Disney staff, and for stupid reasons because nobody wanted more Ducktales because it was a copy of the Indiana Jones movies (although Indiana Jones was actually based on the adventures of Scrooge and Donald in the Carl Barks comics) and then came until the split and then Toby Shelton took over and Duck Daze was renamed Quack Pack which was more based on the classic Donald Duck shorts from the golden era. That's why it didn't even air for a long time, and it was supposed to air at the same time as Goof Troop. As for the series itself, I enjoyed it and I love it, I'm especially glad that Donald got more focus and how Daisy got her look (although she still acted like a bitch at certain points, maybe once) and about their relationship . As for Donald's nephews, I know, too 1990s, though, if it weren't so much, I'd say their personalities are pretty much in line with their colors and personality and they'd be just fine. Although it mostly goes for how they focused on Huey, who was a very 1990s teenage boy. But all in all, they are ok and interestingly, despite the difference, they still act together because they are still a trio (I still don't understand why many people don't like the sameness gag with the classic versions of Donald's nephews), despite the big differences between them. But if we're being honest, Donald's nephews in the Ducktales reboot suffer from the same problem, just set to the 2000s and 2010s and I'm sure there will be criticism of them being cool and hip in a couple of decades maybe. Although I honestly don't like that version, unlike the Quack Pack version and the classic version of Donald's Nephews. But if you're going to make the different personalities of Donald's nephews in a good way, then better take from the comics, from the OG Ducktales as well as Daisy's nieces from The Legend of The Three Caballeros and you'll get exactly what you need. Overall, another thing I appreciate that you didn't mention (even though you don't like Ducky Dearest, that episode was better for Donald's birthday than the classic Happy Birthday Donald short where Donald gives cigars to his nephews), is the good relationship between uncles and their nephews as father-son relationships and that's something you'll rarely find in Donald Duck animation. Yes, it has Mickey's Once Upon a Christmas with a part where you see the relationship between Donald and his nephews, but it's not as in-depth as what was done in Quack Pack. Although, being a fan of Donald Duck comics, I know that Quack Pack is not based on comics, I still appreciate how they did such family relationships, because in comics there are always fights and troubles, but also help between Donald and not his nephews and it is proven that Donald is still a real parent to his nephews. Yeah, Quack Pack really suffered from bad writing and I have to agree, even though I'm part fan of that series and all. Although my opinion and criticisms are certainly different from yours, I agree with you that the Tasty Paste episode is the worst episode in the series and I am those who don't like fetishes, they can like such things (fat Daisy). And yes, it's not the worst Disney Afternoon series, there is another one, and no, it's not Bonkers or Timon and Pumbaa (I love both of those series), and it's actually The Shnookums and Meat Funny Cartoon Show, which is really a Disney copy of Ren and Stimpy . Overall, I enjoyed Quack Pack and yes, there are a lot of elements like Tiny Toons and Animaniacs as well as Rock's Modern Life, and there are things that remind me of SpongeBob as well (interestingly Derek Drymon worked as one of the artists for Quack Pack), but I enjoyed it and wish it had turned out differently. Maybe one day. I certainly appreciate your criticism which I enjoyed, although I disagree with some things, especially about Donald's nephews. I just don't like Donald's nephews in the Ducktales reboot. And yes, don't lie!
@lockout5731
@lockout5731 6 месяцев назад
Daisy in this show is peak daisy duck love between Donald and daisy is perfection
@adampellett4917
@adampellett4917 4 месяца назад
Well, this series not the best but it has good animation and voice talents but I do love Kath Soucie’s Daisy Duck voice. Kinda hot but this series needing a reboot like DuckTales.
@CaptainBZarre
@CaptainBZarre 5 месяцев назад
I was sold on the video as soon as the nod to IOU A YTP at the start.
@BagOfMagicFood
@BagOfMagicFood 3 месяца назад
Good callout of E. G. Daily being the one in green with two soundalikes. This show basically came off like if the Powerpuff Girls were just Buttercup and two lesser Buttercups.
@rattis
@rattis Год назад
I remember the very first time I saw a trailer for Quack Pack. I was like 10 years old but even at that age I instantly felt almost embarassed by how on-the-nose the show seemed about making the triplets "cool". Even my little brother who was like 7 at the time made fun of the show as soon as the trailer was over, being all sarcastic like "wow, Huey Dewey and Louie are COOL now!". You might be thinking that a 10 year old and a 7 year old would be unable to spot pandering like that from a kids cartoon, but let me put it this way; this show, with it's classic characters suddenly being "upgraded" to show of everything that was cool at the moment, gave of the same energy to us as if our dad were to suddenly walk in the room wearing Fresh Prince type clothing and a back-turned cap while saying "yo, whazzaup homeboys!". Even a child is able to see the cringe in someone or something old trying way too hard to be "hip with the kids". Like if nowadays a 40 year old mom were to walk up to her kids dressed like Wednesday Addams and be like "hey kids, pick up your phones, I'm gonna do the dance and then you can upload it to TikTok! and then start spouting current internet slang terms without context like "sus!", "bae!", "simp!".
@DragonKingRaiguy
@DragonKingRaiguy 11 месяцев назад
I loved quack pack when i was in preschool back in the early 2000s
@matiasvidlund1672
@matiasvidlund1672 8 месяцев назад
I have to say that this was one of my favorite series at some point. It's not as amazing as how i remembered it, but i still like this series. I have to admit that i like these Huey, Dewey and Louie more than their classic look.
@historiaestmagistravitae.7051
@historiaestmagistravitae.7051 7 месяцев назад
And better than the Ducktales reboot version.
@comicbookguy7061
@comicbookguy7061 Год назад
Huey,Dewey and Louie of this show=Johnny Test in Steroids,probably.kkkkk
@historiaestmagistravitae.7051
@historiaestmagistravitae.7051 9 месяцев назад
More like a mix of Bart Simpson and Dennis the Menace (maybe both the US and UK versions, although they're different versions) on 1990s settings.
@BrendanBarney
@BrendanBarney Год назад
Did they have a plaque in their studio that said, "Every story must include a lying moral"?
@kelsey1467
@kelsey1467 Год назад
can i be honest im not going to say lying right all the time but honesty is the best policy isn't always a good idea either depending on the situation
@Sparrows1121
@Sparrows1121 Год назад
Maybe they assume every teenager acts like this, with the whole trying to go against the authority type of thing
@lPsychoMax
@lPsychoMax Год назад
@17:39 I like how baby donald is in his Baby Donald design made for babies back in the early 90's. Usually for artwork or toys (When I was a baby I had this disney waterslide toy for the bath, where you can stick it on the side with suction cups and pour water in it to make stuff spin; it had a tiny slide that lets characters go down and hop off into the bath water. It came with 3 Baby Disney characters. Mickey, Donald and Goofy in red, blue and green pyjama onsies for some reason. Baby goofy didn't have a hat with his baby design but donald had a tiny sailor hat on one side. My local hospital also had the baby designs of disney characters stuck to the walls for the Kid doctors office waiting room.
@MTTT19
@MTTT19 2 месяца назад
I rather enjoyed this series growing up. The idea of Donald becoming a supervillain and destroying the Universe because his nephews refuse to clean their room is hilarious!
@keiomemeadows240
@keiomemeadows240 Год назад
The one, and only, time i tried writing a fanfic... before i even recognized what they were... was a crossover story of A Goofy Movie version of Max being friends with the Quack Pack version of the triplets. I don’t remember much of the plot, but it was like our parents are friends so we kind of grew up together thing. I don’t think i ever finished it either. 😂😂😂
@TAWProductions2.0
@TAWProductions2.0 Год назад
The moral of the story is don't lie and actually make a good show that is timeless.
@gars129
@gars129 25 дней назад
Or make something that is sincerely based on a subculture or demographic you geniunely relate to. The movie Singles works because Cameron Crowe geniunely liked grunge.
@midiamregina7251
@midiamregina7251 Год назад
*D O N ' T (insert Bigbrain hero Dewey) L I E*
@theotakux5959
@theotakux5959 Год назад
Wait, people didn't like Quack Pack?
@historiaestmagistravitae.7051
@historiaestmagistravitae.7051 9 месяцев назад
Unfortunately, because it didn't turn out like Ducktales or Darkwing Duck. Although more or less it is mainly due to the influence of other critics, so as if the critics are right, then we will say it, without saying it. After all, it would be more likely to say that people are not interested in that series. Still, I love that series, despite the mistakes it made.
@thebatman9628
@thebatman9628 8 месяцев назад
I was wondering the same thing
@comicbookguy7061
@comicbookguy7061 Год назад
The moral of this show is: *JUST* LIE.kkkkkk
@patricklauer4452
@patricklauer4452 Месяц назад
I’ve never seen this show just ducktails 2017 but I actually like the 90s designs of the boys ngl
@alexkumaratunga2834
@alexkumaratunga2834 Год назад
26:42. Actually, that era started with the Gummi Bears cartoon.
@ronaldjackson613
@ronaldjackson613 2 месяца назад
It's a shame that people put quack pack down because, in my opinion, it gives me the greatest animation ever and the best part of the animation isn't too wacky or Sanny. There's not a lot of gross out humor which Lord knows snookums. And meat gave me more than enough of and it's no rent and stimpy. So, as far as I'm concerned, quack pack is awesome and deserves at least some love. Besides… it was the first attempt to give in the nephew's personalities. Before we got to 2017 duck tails. Which let's be honest not to bash. That show but It crammed way more Disney afternoon stuff than it. Need it too. But I'm not gonna spoil anything but still. I love quagpack and I wouldn't look down on it for anybody in the world or anything in the world. Quack pack deserves at least some love. And I'm the person to give it that so thank you. Quack pack, thank you for everything for being your zany. Ninety's hip self I appreciate you Always to the Disney afternoon forever!!
@Nonjola
@Nonjola Год назад
Compare to DuckTales and Darwking Duck, Quack Pack really feels very outdated. This is why you should never follow trends and should instead create something that is more timeless.
@gars129
@gars129 11 месяцев назад
Bless Eddie Money, but by 1996 he wasn't exactly the image of youth, hipness and rebellion suitable for singing the intro. Indeed, his whole brand in the 70s was being kind of a working class everyman rocker who by the 80s often sang about the bittersweetness of boomer nostalgia. He wasn't really perpetually cool like Bowie.
@miguels.b.2749
@miguels.b.2749 8 месяцев назад
Meh, I loved the show and I'm not ashamed to say so... Although, it probably has more to do with how "improved" the voice dub in Spanish was, I actually believe that the Spanish version has funnier dialogues than the original one... Just like with KND: Kids Next Door
@thebatman9628
@thebatman9628 8 месяцев назад
Same 😂😂😂
@montanajackson3713
@montanajackson3713 3 месяца назад
This show wasn’t the best but the animation was pretty good and I do like kath soucie’s version of daisy. And the theme song is a bop too.
@snakeman8033
@snakeman8033 Год назад
Reverse:EIL T'NOD.😂
@MrNiceguyofficial
@MrNiceguyofficial Год назад
You can tell how jaded a cartoon character has become by how low the eyelids go. At some point the cartoon is only there to watch sarcasticly as other cartoones are being funny
@SpongeyTheEditor
@SpongeyTheEditor Год назад
The moral of the story is do lie! ..Wait...
@durece100
@durece100 Год назад
It's "Don't lie"!
@BagOfMagicFood
@BagOfMagicFood 3 месяца назад
"Well, I hope you've learned your lesson, Arthur, which is, namely, never to lie, because when you lie, you... well, you're doing a very, very bad thing."
@wisconsinrebelhomes7587
@wisconsinrebelhomes7587 4 месяца назад
I liked it!
@leet7489
@leet7489 10 месяцев назад
had forgotten about this until now lol
@MrNiceguyofficial
@MrNiceguyofficial Год назад
Also Daisy looks much hotter in the big bowtie and blouse than with that awful 80s haircut
@historiaestmagistravitae.7051
@historiaestmagistravitae.7051 9 месяцев назад
Daisy was great in House of Mouse and Ducktales 2017 with her bows. Although it is not so much a matter of the bow, as of her personalities.
@wisconsinrebelhomes7587
@wisconsinrebelhomes7587 4 месяца назад
Too The Extreme!
@ladypool1404
@ladypool1404 Год назад
Ah yes, Quack pack! The show who tries to make Huey, Dewey and Louie '' cool '' I don't believe that thoses 3 annoying and impolite ducks are cool. In the Once upon a Christmas movie they annoyed Donald and ruined the dinner BUT they appologises and fixed their mistakes. I didn't saw that in Twice upon a Christmas. The kids DESTROYED Santa's workshop and found it funny then after a few hours they realised it was cruel and repair the toys. Santa puts them on the nice list even if they ruined Chirstmas and didn't appologise. To me, theses 3 are bad kids and will never be cool... except in the 2017 remake of Ducktales. They have differents personalities, are entertaining and brave. It's fun to see them exploring the world with Donald 😃
@winnetouch
@winnetouch Месяц назад
I loved the design of the show. The characters actually looked cool to me when I was a kid. That being said, the designs aged poorly. The look is comic baack in style though 🤣. Can't say much about anything else to be honest, because I could usually only catch the show Saturday mornings on a german channel and by the time it was on, I was already on my SNES 😅.
@Sparrows1121
@Sparrows1121 Год назад
I hate Animaniacs - Cartman But seriously i thought it was too crazy and weird and i dont get it
@c.bretmiller6148
@c.bretmiller6148 10 месяцев назад
6:35. Oh yeah... the director guy DOES look like prototype Peter Griffin.
@historiaestmagistravitae.7051
@historiaestmagistravitae.7051 9 месяцев назад
The thing about the delay in showing that series was that it was supposed to be shown differently than what we got. According to Jymm Magon, one of the creators of other Disney Afternoon series, especially Talespin, said that the original Duck Daze as a sequel to Ducktales showed Donald returning from the Navy and taking over his Uncle Scrooge's business, with Donald's nephews helping him, and Daisy will be his support. However, due to a disagreement with the Disney staff, and for stupid reasons because nobody wanted more Ducktales because it was a copy of the Indiana Jones movies (although Indiana Jones was actually based on the adventures of Scrooge and Donald in the Carl Barks comics) and then came until the split and then Toby Shelton took over and Duck Daze was renamed Quack Pack which was more based on the classic Donald Duck shorts from the golden era. That's why it didn't even air for a long time, and it was supposed to air at the same time as Goof Troop. As for the series itself, I enjoyed it and I love it, I'm especially glad that Donald got more focus and how Daisy got her look (although she still acted like a bitch at certain points, maybe once) and about their relationship . As for Donald's nephews, I know, too 1990s, though, if it weren't so much, I'd say their personalities are pretty much in line with their colors and personality and they'd be just fine. Although it mostly goes for how they focused on Huey, who was a very 1990s teenage boy. But all in all, they are ok and interestingly, despite the difference, they still act together because they are still a trio (I still don't understand why many people don't like the sameness gag with the classic versions of Donald's nephews), despite the big differences between them. But if we're being honest, Donald's nephews in the Ducktales reboot suffer from the same problem, just set to the 2000s and 2010s and I'm sure there will be criticism of them being cool and hip in a couple of decades maybe. Although I honestly don't like that version, unlike the Quack Pack version and the classic version of Donald's Nephews. But if you're going to make the different personalities of Donald's nephews in a good way, then better take from the comics, from the OG Ducktales as well as Daisy's nieces from The Legend of The Three Caballeros and you'll get exactly what you need. Overall, another thing I appreciate that you didn't mention (even though you don't like Ducky Dearest, that episode was better for Donald's birthday than the classic Happy Birthday Donald short where Donald gives cigars to his nephews), is the good relationship between uncles and their nephews as father-son relationships and that's something you'll rarely find in Donald Duck animation. Yes, it has Mickey's Once Upon a Christmas with a part where you see the relationship between Donald and his nephews, but it's not as in-depth as what was done in Quack Pack. Although, being a fan of Donald Duck comics, I know that Quack Pack is not based on comics, I still appreciate how they did such family relationships, because in comics there are always fights and troubles, but also help between Donald and not his nephews and it is proven that Donald is still a real parent to his nephews. Yeah, Quack Pack really suffered from bad writing and I have to agree, even though I'm part fan of that series and all. Although my opinion and criticisms are certainly different from yours, I agree with you that the Tasty Paste episode is the worst episode in the series and I am those who don't like fetishes, they can like such things (fat Daisy). And yes, it's not the worst Disney Afternoon series, there is another one, and no, it's not Bonkers or Timon and Pumbaa (I love both of those series), and it's actually The Shnookums and Meat Funny Cartoon Show, which is really a Disney copy of Ren and Stimpy . Overall, I enjoyed Quack Pack and yes, there are a lot of elements like Tiny Toons and Animaniacs as well as Rock's Modern Life, and there are things that remind me of SpongeBob as well (interestingly Derek Drymon worked as one of the artists for Quack Pack), but I enjoyed it and wish it had turned out differently. Maybe one day. I certainly appreciate your criticism which I enjoyed, although I disagree with some things, especially about Donald's nephews. I just don't like Donald's nephews in the Ducktales reboot.
@Mechasonicrocks
@Mechasonicrocks 4 месяца назад
Eh, even the nephews in the OG Ducktales haven’t aged well (and this is coming from someone who grew up with that show and now has a son and daughter of his own). They’re absurdly sexist towards poor Webby, to the point where my kids (who are absolutely enamored with the 2017 version) don’t care to watch certain episodes of the 1987 show because of the nephews’ borderline cruel interactions with Webby. The 87 show also suffers from dated writing (fat shaming jokes, offensive character portrayals), which the 2017 version that my kids watch might only suffer from in reference to the nephews (which I somewhat agree), as the entire 2017 show itself has some of the most well written episodes, with bridging and connecting plot point, humor that lands extremely well, and at times legitimate emotional moments that neither the 1987 show or “Quack Pack” could ever hope to muster. You said you dislike the 2017 nephews. I don’t personally find them all that atrocious. Personally the only one who rubs me the wrong way sometimes is Louie, but even I could put that aside and actually feel for him when he broke down over Dewey hiding the truth about one of their mother’s personal possessions from his siblings. Also, 1987 Louie had a few moments that harken to his greedy 2017 self (one such example was opting not to cure Scrooge of an obviously detrimental mental affliction simply because he was going to buy them all brand new bikes). As for why people don’t like the whole “they’re 100% the same” gag, it’s that if you tell the same joke for 58 years (the nephews were introduced in 1938, “Quack Pack” debuted in 1996), said joke gets quite stale with the audience. Heck, even I was tired of it by 1991 and moved on to “Darkwing Duck”.
@historiaestmagistravitae.7051
@historiaestmagistravitae.7051 4 месяца назад
@@Mechasonicrocks Your comment would have been spot on if you hadn't said that the nephews were "sexist" towards Webby. They are children, how can they act sexist? By the way, didn't Darkwing Duck make Gosalyn too boyish? Besides, it's a rivalry between girls and boys, and it's common for boys to tease girls. And it's not that the boys always outplayed Webby, even Webby outdid them in certain things. And I say this for OG Ducktales. Yeah, old gag? Then change Donald's voice too, because it's too old-fashioned, right? From your comments, I can tell you have never even read the comics and yes, Donald's nephews first appeared in the COMICS and then in animation. Donald's nephews were mean at first, but after Donald adopted them, he disciplined them very well and introduced them to be useful scouts in the Junior Woodchucks, and later to be moral verticals for their uncles Donald and Scrooge. You could just say that you don't like the OG Ducktales and I'm aware of some flaws in that series, but it absolutely doesn't mean that the Ducktales reboot didn't suffer from the same, if not worse problems that it did. Yes, I also prefer Darkwing Duck, but for my own reasons. Did you watch that series to the end or not? The first season, I'll be honest, is solid, although there were mistakes, while the second and third seasons had so many mistakes, that I hardly gave up watching, but I watched until the end. Emotional scenes would be ok, if there was no introduction of meta humor. And there are better emotional scenes in comics, especially in The Life and Times of Scrooge McDuck by Don Rosa. Everything they started well, they ended badly. I know you're referring to the episode "Allowance Day" from Ducktales 1987, where Donald's nephews tricked Scrooge into thinking it was Saturday and not Friday and screwed up, but everyone did it, not just one triplet. The thing about triplets is that, regardless of their differences, they can very well be similar to each other and work together. Ducktales 2017 did none of that, even just Huey being a member of the Junior Woodchucks, and Dewey being rude to his uncle like he ruined his life for not calling him "Turbo". Disgusting! And I would not comment on Louie's behavior, as if the writers wanted to make him a complex character. Only Huey was in place, but they turned him into a batting offense and there was hardly any focus on him. To me, that version is nothing like the Quack Pack either, as much as there are similarities between them or the OG Ducktales or especially the comics. To me, Ducktales 2017 is too frivolous and yes, the focus on adult characters was much better than the focus on children. And I don't like children's voices as they sound totally adult, only Boyd was on point. Maybe I'm a zoomer, but I prefer the old cartoons, because I grew up with them as well as comics. I don't mind Donald's nephews having different personalities, but it should be done right, like growing up with puberty, not making them different from birth. The Ducktales reboot had a good attempt, but a poor execution. For me, Quack Pack did a better job with Donald's nephews, if only it wasn't set too 90s. And Donald's nephews as three in one is not bad, because that is what it serves, especially for the sidekicks, and thus allows for more focus on Scrooge and Donald. If Donald's nephews were like Daisy's nieces in The Legend of The Three Caballeros, then I'd say that's the right version for them because even though they look the same, they still act differently and it would be totally spot on. The comics certainly did a great job. However the Quack Pack version is something I will say the right way as HDL grows up. Again, I say, that's my opinion and there's no need to get excited about it. I respect your opinion, but it seems like you hate everything old, and I'll just say there wouldn't be a Ducktales reboot, if there weren't OG Ducktales, Darkwing Duck or the Quack Pack.
@Mechasonicrocks
@Mechasonicrocks 4 месяца назад
@@historiaestmagistravitae.7051 1. No, I never read the “Donald Duck” comics, as I live in the United States. 2. The episode I referred to in regards to Louie was “Dr. Jekyll and Mr. McDuck”. 3. Yes, I have watched the 1987 series frequently from beginning to end, often with my two children (as I noted). 4. Perhaps I should’ve reworded my statement about the nephews’ attitude towards Webby. The writing is sexist. I don’t know how you couldn’t say it’s not: “You can’t go on adventures because you’re a GIRL!” I’m sorry, but there’s no logical reasoning behind that statement, other than some guy on the writing staff probably didn’t think too much of the opposite sex. 5. I don’t hate everything old, it’s just that I have two young, fresh pairs of eyes (unclouded by nostalgia) that are able to see the various flaws in writing, character interactions, etc present in the shows I watched when I was their age. I still very much enjoy the 1987 Ducktales, but I can’t really say that the final seasons were of the best quality. I don’t recall where I read it online, but there was an interview with one of the show runners of DT1987 and he stated that most of the crew were burnt out on the show and it’s characters after the first season. 6. I have watched the entirety of DT1987, “Quack Pack” and DT2017 all the way to the end both by myself and with my kids. This is my personal ranking: 1. DT2017 2. DT1987 3. “Quack Pack” DT2017 edges out “Quack Pack” because although the nephew’s reimagining may become dated, the rest of the series (writing, humor, emotion) behind the nephews is way more solid than “Quack Pack”. That being said, as a product of the time they were produced, most every cartoon ends up feeling dated…ESPECIALLY if it includes children or teens in the story, as the team writing said children and teens are often grown adults (and often times in the early days there were no women or people with children in the writers room, so the kids and girls are often written objectively worse) whose viewpoints of how children/teens act and what they would do is, more often than not, a bit skewed. In regards to the three most prominent attempts to bring Donald, his nephews and Uncle Scrooge to the animated tv show format, the two versions of Ducktales start strong in season one, yet lose their way in both subsequent seasons (though I admit seasons 2 and 3 of both 1987 and 2017 have episodes I still enjoy). “Quack Pack” suffers the most in every regard, as while the show’s creators stated they based their premise around the world of the classic “Donald Duck” shorts that existed prior to the 1987 “Ducktales”, nothing in the show outside of the existence of humans tells me this.
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@historiaestmagistravitae.7051 4 месяца назад
@@Mechasonicrocks Perhaps you meant to say "stereotypical", since Ducktales 1987 often highlights stereotypes between men and women, as well as between boys and girls. Webby was shown as a stereotypical girl from the 80s, and Ducktales was also shown as a time with all the stereotypes, and so it was in all cartoons of that period. Do you have problems with those stereotypes? Boys have always treated girls like that. And when I was younger, I bullied girls with my friends, but there were times when the girls bullied us boys too. As for Webby, yes there was bad behavior from the boys, and as I said before, Webby kind of outsmarted the boys and went with them. In the "Dr. Jekyll & Mr. McDuck" episode that I also watched, there is nothing like that bad behavior of Louie. DT87 Louie was generally the last to know and afraid of bad things, but his reaction never lagged behind his brothers. Well OG Ducktales did decline after the second season, especially when there was a focus on Bubba and Webby, and I agree there, but in the case of "everything was burned", I didn't understand it very well. What is it about? Well, in the past cartoons were made for both children and adults and everyone could enjoy them, just like you enjoy with your children. And there were separate episodes focused only on adults and episodes focused only on children, but everyone could enjoy it. Modern cartoons are mostly intended only for children and teenagers, while adults are told "cartoons are only for children", which is nonsense. The problem with Ducktales 2017 is that it is mostly focused on the children, and there was hardly any focus on Scrooge and Donald, especially Donald who is a secondary character. Even episodes where they are focused on adults, have to put children in, especially in scenes where it is not necessary, because they are supposedly "drawn for children". And it's better when children are played by children's characters or actors who can imitate children's voices. Isn't it better for your children to grow up with their characters who look like them? Quack Pack had the biggest problem with writing the script, so some episodes turned out to be terrible, for which the authors themselves apologized. Although other series had a similar problem, because they imitated the problems that mostly sitcom series had during the 1990s. Although, I enjoyed that series again, even though it didn't turn out better than the OG Ducktales or Darkwing Duck. Besides, children can be boring, but it is important to know what to do with them. Ducktales 2017 created a similar problem to the Quack Pack, especially when it comes to Donald's nephews. And their version will be as outdated as the Quack Pack version over time, and the problem is their personality development is not very well executed. And children will change their minds over time, especially during puberty, but that's completely normal. I don't mind that you and your kids enjoyed it and that's fine, just know that what's iconic lasts longer than what's supposed to be outdated. Again, I respect your opinion. Humans in Quack Pack wasn't that much of a problem, there were humans in both Rescue Rangers and Darkwing Duck so I didn't see people complaining about it. I know, and you'll probably say that Quack Pack wasn't good, because it wasn't like Ducktales, because it wasn't. However, I don't mind the changes, and the comedy also reminded me a lot of the classic shorts from the golden era, as well as the Donald Duck comics that I enjoyed, and what I said before, I liked that they were different from both versions of Ducktales did the best job of the relationship between Donald and his nephews and proved that Donald is the best parent for them, not Scrooge or Della. This is why I appreciate the Quack Pack so much. You haven't read the comics? Well, that says it all, since the Donald Duck character is better developed in the comics than in the cartoons, and Scrooge is a real bastard in the comics too. Although I know some Americans who read Donald Duck comics, but it is rare to find it except on the Internet where you have access to it, of course if you have more free time. You have Comics Online that you can read and find Disney comics there, I would especially recommend reading the Carl Barks comics, and your kids might be fine too. I say this only as a recommendation and I hope we understand each other. I certainly respect your opinion.
@Mechasonicrocks
@Mechasonicrocks 4 месяца назад
@@historiaestmagistravitae.7051 Yes, perhaps "stereotypical" was the correct term and while I don't dislike said stereotypes, it's clear to me (based on my daughter's reaction to the nephews' behavior towards Webby in the 1987 show) that they are quite outdated. Worse yet is that the show never attempted to have either Uncle Scrooge (or some other adult figure that the nephews looked up to and/or respected) notice said bullying behavior and address it. Considering both Webby and the boys come from somewhat similar upbringings (missing/deceased biological parents, raised by a single biological relative) I always felt that would've been enough to convince the boys to ease up a bit (or at least have less harsh/judgmental insults) What makes it really hard to watch now that I'm older is the added fact that Webby and her Grandma were essentially homeless before moving in with Scrooge and the boys. Poor Webby had nothing before this, and now she has a roof over her head, and...Oh my gosh! People her age, to maybe be the best of friends with! But, much to her dismay and probable misery, the only occupants that are her age give her almost nothing but negative interactions on a near daily basis. Imagine what a roller-coaster her self-esteem must have been over the course of that show! Being a show in the 1980's, around the popularization of the cartoon PSA (think "GI Joe: A Real American Hero" and its famous "Knowing is half the battle!" segments), I wouldn't have minded either an anti-bullying PSA which has the nephews learn the possible consequences of their attitude and behavior towards Webby or and episode where (as I previously mentioned) Scrooge or another central adult figure (perhaps Woodchuck Scout Leader Launchpad) notices the clear-as-day bullying that the nephews subject Webby to and the boys get a stern talking to, which would lead to them actually treating her like a human being...er....Duck person...I think you know what I mean. Regarding "Dr. Jekyll and Mr. McDuck" (and I watch these shows on Disney+) at about the 21:20 mark, Huey and his brothers show up with the cure for their Uncle Scrooge, who gleefully exclaims he's going to buy them all new bikes. Louie then asks: "Are you sure we wanna do this?" To which Huey replies: "This is gonna hurt us more than it hurts him." Now, while 1987 Huey doesn't seem pleased at the idea of losing out on new bikes either, it's still greedy Louie who first raises any voice of regret over not getting cool new stuff. In the 2017 version, Louie would still be the one to object to curing Scrooge, but 2017 Huey would definitely scold his brother for choosing material items over a family member's well-being. Regardigng humans in "Quack Pack", that never bothered me. I also don't hate "Quack Pack", but it's clearly the weakest entry in the three most prominent animated shows to feature the nephews. I guess I just needed a bit more connective tissue that would better convey that as being in the world of the classic "Donald Duck" shorts. There's still quite a few episodes I like of that show's one and only season. When I said the people working on the 1987 "Ducktales" were "burnt out", that's a term meaning they were tired of writing for the show and its world/characters after the first season. Finally, I am aware that the "Donald Duck" and "Uncle Scrooge" comics weren't a huge success here in the United States. Most of our knowledge and understanding of the characters of Donald, his nephews and Uncle Scrooge really only came from their various portrayals in animated media (hence why I used the 1938 short "Donald's Nephews" as a gauge for how old the whole "The nephews are exactly 100% identical!" gag was at the time that "Quack Pack" decided to do away with it), and from what I've heard, our writing departments don't hold a candle to those who helm the various comics you mentioned. Carl Barks himself went on record as having disliked both the 1987 and 2017 "Ducktales" shows. Speaking of Carl Barks and Don Rosa, I recall several users on RU-vid and across certain animation forums claim that the 2017 version of Uncle Scrooge was written in a similar vein to how Don Rosa wrote the character (heavy emphasis on action/adventure, less of a bastard, etc). Is there any amount of truth to this?
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