A Truly Impressive Sports Grand Seiko - SBGC253 

Lol absolutely no comparison to a daytona the 4130 movement blows watch ( and almost all automatic chronos in way higher price ranges ) out of the water spec for spec.

Most of what you said resonates with me… but 16.8mm in height is just absurd for a master watchmaker

Question; what size is ur wrist? Your thoughts plz on the Lug to Lug. Thanx

This is one killer Seiko it will make Rolex cry😢

You're not alone in this, GS just doesn't seem to understand what the broader audience is looking for in a sports watch. Their chronos are too busy and bulky, their divers are bulky as well and have 200m WR whereas other divers of a similar size have 500m-600m, and their GMTs suffer the same size issues. Their clasps on their sports watches also look way too cheap in comparison to the rest of the watch; and I'm not someone who constantly bemoans, or even has an issue, over their bracelets on their non-sports pieces. They do seem to be taking steps in the right direction though. The Tentagraph chrono is smaller (though still too big imo) with a way less busy dial, and the SBGE283/285 is actually a fairly wearable size for a sports GMT.

What more could you possibly want it's got micro adjust holes and toolless on the wrist extension not even the submariner has that.

They brought out a colour changing red one. I just ordered one.

Lol good point

The bezel is fixed. But in every respect the movement is a true gmt

Unfortunately, it's the main thing that GS and Seiko have in common. Rehashing what works for them. Of course GS movements and finishing are next level. But they always stick to the same cases and even worse, the same bracelet on almost all model variations.

@@N3VURMYND They are introducing new dials almost(?) every year (if not, they are doing it very frequently). and there are plenty of other brands, the most well known being Rolex, that use damn near the same few bracelet designs across the majority of their models. I don't think either are valid criticisms, rather I would like to see them improve their baseline for bracelet design. I'm not one who thinks the quality or visual design of their bracelets are bad (other than their sports clasps..), but added features like microadjustment on all models and more taper are always welcome.

@@rousseau327 Dude, take it easy man. I didn't want to talk about Rolex. But since you bring it up...yes, they use the same bracelets...but they're all phenomenal and match perfectly with their cases. Want to know why? BECAUSE THEY WERE MADE FOR THOSE CASE DESIGNS! Rolex's case models all follow a familiar design language so that their Oyster, Presidential and Jubilee bracelets fit the look perfectly. Their cases are designed with those bracelets in mind. It's that overall uniformity that makes Rolex watches so appealing. Meanwhile, GS and Seiko will create a completely new watch design and decide to slap the same standard model "A" or "B" bracelet that they continue to add on every other completely different model. Yes, GS makes beautiful Dials, Movements and have excellent finishing. But their bracelets seem to almost always be an afterthought and they never seem to match the overall aesthetic of the watch cases.

@@N3VURMYND I think if you read my comment, you would know I'm saying the exact same thing as you are, that Grand Seiko needs to improve their baseline in bracelet design. And I'm not sure where I should "take it easy", as I've only disagreed with you, and no more. And to your point about Rolex bracelet and case design compatibility, they use the Oyster and Jubilee on multiple different case shapes, and have kept the principle design for these two bracelets for decades across many more cases. While I do think GS can do more to differentiate their lower end bracelets in their heritage line from the higher end Seikos, they do have different bracelets for different lines, and have introduced a completely new one for their Evolution 9 watches that are markedly higher quality than before, which is a step in the right direction imo. And my overall observation is people tend to excessively fixate on how the bracelet of GS does not match the standards put forth on the rest of the watch. Again, I agree there's much to be improved, but you said yourself, they check a ton of boxes in the dial, finishing, and movement department. Whether you like the case shapes or not, they mostly have roots in their core design date back decades, and they are executed well in that sense. That's a ton of boxes checked, whereas other brands don't get the same level of fixation for their own shortcomings, which are often times a longer checklist of things missed.

I guess you must go to other brands like Rolex for their constantly updating catalog oh wait...