A Vitamin D Pill Vs. Real Sun

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Is a pill as good as the sun? In this snippet from my podcast this week (Fundamental Health, available on iTunes, RU-vid, and carnivoremd.com) with Dr. Jack Wolfson we discuss the differences between real sunlight and a vitamin D pill. In light of the evidence showing that those with lower levels of 25-OH vitamin D (30ng/ml) do much worse with COVID, I feel this is a very important discussion.
As you’ll hear Jack and I discuss here, though epidemiology studies show correlation between higher levels of vitamin D in the blood and better outcomes, many of these same outcomes cannot be replicated in interventional trials by giving vitamin D. This suggests that there may be other benefits to the sun that are not found in a vitamin D pill, or that those with the highest levels of vitamin D may also be doing things in the sun (walking, running, playing, etc.) that also have benefit.
It would be very interesting to do an interventional study with sun exposure alone controlling for other variables to see if this is indeed the case.
When I’ve posted about this in the past many have asked about vitamin D lamps, Sperti brand is a good option (no affiliation) for those who don’t live in lower latitudes, as are trips to Hawaii, Costa Rica, or Belize. :)
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@alienatedbeing7513 4 года назад

I wonder how much vitamin D they were giving people in the studies he’s referring too? Because the mainstream recommendation is to supplement 600iu per day which is hardly any, and some of that won’t even be absorbed. I’ve read studies that said you can produce up to 20,000 IU from 30 minutes of sun exposure! So if they were giving people low doses of vit.d supp’s it doesn’t really seem like a fair comparison.

@IHeartZui 4 года назад

Agreed.

@stuarttaoro6553 4 года назад

You don't just produce Vitamin D when you're in the sun, you also produce nitric oxide which is a massively important vasodilator that helps reduce the markers of CVD.

@jonanderson6882 4 года назад

How do you know sunlight makes nitric oxide. Link please...

@jonanderson6882 4 года назад

Found it. Interesting...

@stuarttaoro6553 4 года назад

@@jonanderson6882 I saw it in this lecture at around 9min ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Kvh4D_osFXs.html but I found an article talking about it www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5593895/

@jonanderson6882 4 года назад

@@stuarttaoro6553 thanks for that friend. That's great info!

@djprojectus 4 года назад

Nitric oxide is also linked to improve erectile disfunction if i remember correctly.

@ElizabethMillerTX 4 года назад

Regular sunshine has changed my life. It's massive.

@bate181 4 года назад

Same. Im lucky to live in southern california so its easy. But only over the past few months have i been getting roughly 20 minutes of sun a day on 80% of my body, plus a lot of organ meat. It has effectively changed my mood completely for the better. I wish I started doing this when I was a kid

@caroline61804 3 года назад

I just got a SPERTI UVB lamp. I love it. Really improved my asthma all gone and my sleep wow. Energy level.

@imranhuddin 3 года назад

How so? If you could write down some of your experience

@Speak4Noah 2 года назад

@@caroline61804 are you still loving your Sperti uvb lamp? I'm considering purchasing one. thanks

@caroline61804 2 года назад

@@Speak4Noah yes though I haven’t used it in 4 months. I do gardening now but good to have if they say no go out. Crazy times

@SondraRose 4 года назад

Hey Doc, in 2010 I eliminated ALL of my life-long asthma symptoms by getting my D3 blood level up just above 80 ng/ml. I was keto at the time. I did this by supplementing 8000 IUs D3 daily while living in the Pacific NW. I’m a nutrition geek and when we moved to Santa Fe, I experimented by dropping the D3 and sunning for an hour in a bikini between 10-2 for 3 months. My blood level dropped to 54 ng/ml and my asthma symptoms came back. 3 weeks after I started supplementing D3 again, my symptoms were gone. I’ve been med-free for over 10 years now. Others in carnivore FB groups have had the same experience; they needed to get their 25(OH) D level high enough to eliminate symptoms.

@SondraRose 4 года назад

So don’t knock supplements so hastily! I take Carlson’s Solar D Gems, which are lanolin and cod liver oil based.

@Tex678 4 года назад

I agree. I needed regular sun exposure AND D3/K2 supplementation to see major improvement in my psoriasis.

@yogeshsahu6895 2 года назад

You are right.....can I take 4000 iu a day ? Is it safe?

@greekwoman9409 4 года назад

I must move out right now.Here in Greece the sun is always up of our heads..even in the winter.Thank God for this gift.

@no22sill Год назад

In our culture we thank the sun every morning

@jonanderson6882 4 года назад

Paul, it's not the length of the videos, it the topics. Your working it out... I would have listened to a hour of the benefits of sunlight besides vit.d. keep in mind the people interested in these topics, are becoming mature in the topics.

@rwil6969 4 года назад

Early winter here in Sydney Australia. UVI index is 3. I am brown skinned man, little chubby 😁. Vitamin D sun app I am using to help estimate D production indicates that I would need to be in the direct sun during peak D times for 45 minutes wearing shorts only I would produce 1000 IUs. To get to anywhere near optimal levels that would mean 6 hrs of peak D producing sunlight at this time of year. Looks like I will need to up my supplementation to compensate. I have just started 6000 IUs and will try get as much sun as I can daily. Given I tested at 73 nmol at the end of January, summer here, which still puts me in need to supplement I don’t know how it’s possible for me to get optimal D storage without significant supplementation. Definitely will up the sun exposure in summer but in the interim will up the D3 supplementation, get full sun when I can and when summer roles back around make it a priority to get more sun exposure. Thanks for the information

@chrisduncan3943 2 года назад

It would be less expensive to buy a Vitamin D lamp than moving.

@richardwood8276 4 месяца назад

Sperti lamp😁😁😁😁

@PacificBlue51 4 года назад

Question Please. How much sunshine is effective per day? And healthy without sunscreen? Where is the balance ? I also believe some real sun each day is essential, and live in CA where I can get it most days. As a senior with fair skin, I try to balance between the real sun light(20-30mins)and then use a good sunscreen for more exposure time.

@johnnycolon3208 4 года назад

The amount of Vitamin D you would make in 30 mins in the sun would depend on time of day and what you are wearing on the day. For instance if you only wore shorts you would make 10,000 to 20,000 IU's in 30 mins. However, if only the head and arms are exposed, for example jeans and t-shirt this would only produce around 30% of that, meaning that you would need an hour and a half exposure for the same amount. Also know that the skin will only produce Vit D whilst your shadow is shorter than your height so it is important to get the exposure when the sun is higher in the sky. Say between 10am and 2pm. Once your shadow is longer than your actual height you are no longer making Vit D. As for the sunscreen; once you apply sunscreen to your skin you are no longer making Vit D so be sure to get your sun exposure BEFORE you put the sunscreen on. Once that stuff is on its game over. All that said it also depends on your skin type. The above information is for a person of European extraction and the darker the skin the more time in the sun is required to make the Vit D. There is a good app written by Dr Holick, a world expert on Vitamin D, it is called Dminder which can be found for free in AppStore. I use it personally and find it quite useful. For instance I took a 4 hour walk just the other day and know that I generated 5570 IU's in that time dressed in trousers and t-shirt, although, I am in England and it's not exactly blistering hot here. Probably a wee bit hotter there in CA. For more Vitamin D information a good place to visit is the Vitamin D Society (previously Vitamin D Council) which can be found here www.vitamindsociety.org/ Apologies for the long rambling reply. Hope some of the above info helps though. Be well.

@carnivoreRon 4 года назад

There are limitations that people live with that result in minimal sun exposure. Taking D3 is an inexpensive way to get it.

@1happydream 4 года назад

@4GF. That's sure ... But the results are not exactly the same

@siftingtrutheshit2380 4 года назад

It's also synthetic and arguably poison

@alienatedbeing7513 4 года назад

sifting tru the shit It’s what hairy animals consume for vitamin d. Their hair excretes an oil which produces vit.d when exposed to uv light, which they then consume when they lick their fur. They use the same process to make d3 supplements with sheep’s wool.

@Graphicxtras1 4 года назад

Yes, the best source is the sun ... living in the UK, where the sun is often feeble, I will still continue to take some supplements as well. Great, we can't even leave the country so a great idea that we just head off to another country for the sun. It would be good but it is not always practical.

@crisbowman 4 года назад

I was doing some research into Vitamin D and it would seem we can't even absorb it efficiently from animal sources, it is best converted from cholesterol. We do photosynthesize, but it's for vitamins instead of glucose.

@vonkunstler884 Год назад

What is your opinion on tanning beds providing therapeutic benefits?

@svetlanapasaric4018 3 месяца назад

Wow, this is true! After only one day under the spring sun my sinusitis went away. I have been taking vitamin D all winter - 5.000 daily. With no result.

@richo2174 4 года назад

Dr, you suggested a vitamin D lamp which I though was a great idea however I noticed you didn't recommend any in the notes. Trying to find one and it's pretty confusing and of course higher risk of skin cancer' is mentioned. Searching, I came accross, 'sun lamps' and 'light therapy boxes' which all do something similar but are apparently different??? Do you have a good one you recommend?

@Stewartthorp 4 года назад

Vitamin D is made when UV (more precisely, UVB rays) react with a compound (7-dehydrocholesterol) in the skin. The best rays for UV synthesis have wavelengths between 270-300 nm. These wavelengths are present when the UV index is greater than 3.29 Jul 2008

@GWAYGWAY1 4 года назад

Richo, proper uvb lamps are very expensive for the genuine item,7 cheap ones are mostly uva with a small amount of uvb output.

@chiefsmurph 4 года назад

Interesting topic

@GIBKEL 2 года назад

Any thoughts on vit d lamps? I couldn’t tolerate pill forms and it seemed to trigger MS flares. Desperate. I do better with steady weather bad sunshine the start to nose dive with severe symptoms. I had been an archaeologist, struggling with undiagnosed disease. When I went out to work surveying in some of the highest UV geography, I felt better. Disease eventually caught up to me and ruined my ability to work in this field. It was a fast and steady dissent once I left the sunshine. Now 26 years later, I’m desperate to find solutions.

@Speak4Noah 2 года назад

Perhaps check out Sally K. Norton and see if Oxalate issues ring a bell. ??

@GIBKEL 2 года назад

@@Speak4Noah Will do-thanks. I hadn’t heard of this. We are all our own experiences and experiments.

@henrybarrett1292 4 года назад

Which is fat vs water soluble - the vit D from the sun or the D3 from a pill?

@djprojectus 4 года назад

From the sun is fat soluble.

@cafep2800 3 года назад

What about skin aging and DNA damage caused by UVA and UVB rays? I think supplementation is a safer route for getting Vitamin D

@SincerityJ 3 года назад

So basically you didn't take in anything from watching this video. Sunlight is essential for health. Over do it, and it'll cause damage. Personally, for antiaging, I wear sunscreen on my face, neck and upper chest everyday, where I live in the subtropics. I leave other areas without it to absorb the sun. I don't lie out in the sun for long periods. I hope I get enough from a bit of gardening, walking, hanging out washing, etc, and all doors and windows open.

@barrycorney3665 4 года назад

57 degrees North in Scotland... right now 18hrs of daylight a day but still probably not that great for vit D, in 6 months we will have 6 hrs of daylight so forget vit D.... has to be supplements

@robertroberts4764 4 года назад

I didn’t even know a Vitamin D lamp was a thing 🤔 any suggestions on how to shop for a good one?

@keniral.thompson8493 3 года назад

Sperti Vitamin D, good quality!

@ResponseDigitalMedia 4 года назад

Dr. Saladino, I think you’ve been staying away from the topic of Hydroxychloroquine since it’s been politicized, but I hope you will bring new light to the Lancet study that condemned its use, but now has been proven a fraudulent report.

@clautojek 2 года назад

I had a lot of sun during my hole life and the results were: Melanomas and osteoporosis. No thanks! Supplements please!

@Marc-Vickers 4 года назад

How about infrared lights?

@GWAYGWAY1 4 года назад

Marcus Vickers no good the other end of the scale ,it is uvb you need , but you know that , just mixed them up.

@Jchathe 4 года назад

Hi Paul, just read that they are considering a huge ‘environment’ tax on meat in the EU. This is frightening, the thin edge of the wedge imho. Here’s the link to the article www.intelligentliving.co/amp/the-eu-plans-to-adopt-a-meat-tax-to-fight-the-climate-crisis/. Can you do anything from your platform to help? I’ve recently gone carnivore and my mental health and arthritis have improved radically and are continuing to get better daily. I hope you can help. Thank you for everything you do 🙏💖

@AlexisMarquez-fq2bn 10 месяцев назад

🎉❤

@ryanschumm9905 4 года назад

How much sun per day is a good goal?

@SincerityJ 3 года назад

It depends where you live.

@6Uncles 2 года назад

@@SincerityJ it's unique to you & your environment. (ie. skin type)

@dawa8746 4 года назад

No refs, no links, nothing about in the 1st ed. book; rather glibly delivered. Like: say it, drop the mic and walk the fuck out why don't you?

@AlexisMarquez-fq2bn 10 месяцев назад

No game share remember.

@SincerityJ 3 года назад

Nitic oxide is also obtained from consuming raw honey, as I've learnt from Paul. Also amazing, is that it doesn't raise blood sugar or cause tooth decay. There are also may other benefits.