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@julieryan1616
@julieryan1616 11 дней назад
So sorry to hear about your problems, you are a lovely bloke, very popular. Don't ever think your on your own, you've got thousands of people watching you , and we all wish you well. Holly....take care of him xx
@TheDukesOfDerbyshire
@TheDukesOfDerbyshire Месяц назад
Absolutely shocking from the weekender organisers. I've seen all the comments in the facebook group before the organisers keep deleting them. Absolutely shocking!! All about the money!!
@kylejackson8522
@kylejackson8522 Месяц назад
Well I was there and totally agree with everything you said. I left about 12 on Saturday, it’s good to see RU-vidrs saying it as it is and not lying and making things up! So big respect for that! I did see you both at the weekender and said hi, wish I come over and shook your hand and told you I love the channel!! I chickened out 😂😂
@northlondonlass1498
@northlondonlass1498 Месяц назад
Thanks for doing this video, being very new to the hobby it’s vital information for us newbies. More than being lied to you’ve been scammed out of your money. Saying somewhere has never been detected and then easily finding out it has for over forty years is criminal deception. A few of you should get together and take them through the small claims courts for your money back. On a plus it brought Holly doing more to camera, which I thought she was excellent at and would love to see her do more 👍🏼
@lindajane3416
@lindajane3416 Месяц назад
Fabulous meeting you and the lovely Holly at the Rally this weekend. I watch and learn from your vlogs and got to know you over the years, was startling when I walked past you and recognized you! You are one of my greatest finds of the weekend! Keep those videos coming xxxx
@deano7077
@deano7077 3 часа назад
Hi was this Bludicas or Boudiccas ?
@AnthonyBird-d9e
@AnthonyBird-d9e Месяц назад
Well done Holly and Grim for calling it out. We have all been to similar s**t shows where you find the never detected land has been scrubbed clean for the last 30 years or is simply too rough to even hack your way through. We are suffering an epidemic of dishonesty these days when all we want is to deal with groups that have a little integrity! I agree the Rodney Cook last year was fabulous and despite not finding very much , we were not mislead and the organisation was superb. My wife and I are looking forward to RCM this year , hope to see you there. Best Regards Tony Bird
@Mudmonster22
@Mudmonster22 Месяц назад
Hi Tony, hopefully it's the same Tony I know, is your wife called Wendy? If so it's Susanna. Me and my husband are going to the RCM this year to, for the first time. Looking forward to seeing everyone there x
@vmaxfr
@vmaxfr Месяц назад
Nice to meet you all, camped opposite your stall, and yep ive been kicked out for posting a pic of my finds table with nothing on it. so blocked and thrown out and ive paid for the titchmarsh dig already. when you cant give an opinion without being kicked out its a sad day.
@DetectingScotland
@DetectingScotland Месяц назад
I've done two digs now up here in Scotland both an absolute con just really ready people in charge it's a real shame
@moony82
@moony82 Месяц назад
Pleased to see you called them out. I left my comments in the group and have now been removed and blocked. Just for giving my opinion! I left at 9:30 on Saturday. Worst organised dig I have ever been to. Apparently they don’t make much out of the digs lol, they give most of it to the farmers and keep a small amount for themselves. B.S! First and last dig with these guys.
@TheDukesOfDerbyshire
@TheDukesOfDerbyshire Месяц назад
Gate receipts over £20,000 with almost zero overheads other than payin landowner, and they claim they don't make much money..
@Metalmole
@Metalmole Месяц назад
Yes I had laugh over that one what a crock 1st time Lloyd has ever said that I been on a few of his digs at best average some like the Peterborough by the A1 dig and Hollywell dreadful . Can't ever see me going to another one of his again.
@davesherriff
@davesherriff Месяц назад
well said . it needs more ppl like you to speak up as this is happening everywhere , all for the money and not the hobby ,
@UndergroundMetalDetecting
@UndergroundMetalDetecting Месяц назад
Maybe the real treasures were the friends we made along the way!
@Bludicasdetects
@Bludicasdetects Месяц назад
This is why i dont do commercial digs. I do go with our non-commercial digs, a lot less hassle and undetected land. I hope your next outing is more pleasing. Bludicas detects not to be confused with Boudicca lol.
@jeffreyrobinson2155
@jeffreyrobinson2155 Месяц назад
Grim and Holly how ya going haven't watched for a while nice to see you both out and about shame the dig was a bust although a few people showed a few finds never mind next dig will be better Good to see Holly the stunning red head coming out of her shell would like to hear more of her commenting beautiful voice anyway glad i watched all the best from Australia guy's
@markbowen3975
@markbowen3975 Месяц назад
Well that certainly didn't go as we all hoped. Very nice to meet you and Holly. I must admit that's the first time I spent more time at my motorhome than I did detecting,I think I was in the field for around 6hrs in total,over 2 days. I was the one in the film with the 2 roman coins and that was really all I had 😏
@scalerotors
@scalerotors Месяц назад
I've been on one Boudicca rally before, last year North of Peterborough. A promise of undetected land only to find out on arrival they were there the week before. Stayed all day as I'd travelled for 3 hours, literally dug 7 holes all day, worst rally ever and never again! Funnily enough the admins disappeared on that one as well and there were no scrap buckets. Name and shame them I say, they are no good for the hobby.
@fiberotter
@fiberotter Месяц назад
Wow...that is terrible! They have certainly smeared their reputation.
@siw4075
@siw4075 Месяц назад
absolute rip off well said you 2 i was there with my brother and left at 10 am Saturday morning con con con they are messing with peoples mental health greed greed greed
@SheDigsitUK
@SheDigsitUK Месяц назад
Thank you for your honesty. Not long till RCM ✌️ take care guys 😜 big up lady Liz 😂
@deano1864
@deano1864 Месяц назад
I was at this dig. I was about 5 up from you same row. We left at 9am Saturday morning. Shockingly bad :( such a huge waste of money for everyone.
@shaunhood2429
@shaunhood2429 Месяц назад
Thanks for heads-up things to look out for.we done for beings honest
@SuperCarol1961
@SuperCarol1961 Месяц назад
Total respect to you both , Like you I am very disappointed with the weekend dig. I have voiced on their page , also spoke to the organiser on Saturday , no response really .
@disabledadventures4115
@disabledadventures4115 Месяц назад
This happens all the time up and down the country, it is very bad for the hobby of detecting and many groups are just in it for the big money they make out of the digs. We have lost count of the amount of digs we have heard of where the land has been relentlessly detected over 10/20/30 years and we also know personally of local land that has been detected in the same way and the groups are still charging £20 every weekend for a day dig on the land and they have 60-80 people every weekend they run a dig. We won't attend organised digs because of many reasons and are far happier either on our own or just with a small bunch of like minded detectorists. All the best Wendy and Jon.
@talcadetector4018
@talcadetector4018 Месяц назад
Hola amigos, los felicito por su video y ese lindo lugar para detectar, muy interesantes hallazgos y muchos amigos detectoristas, por favor me podrías enviar un saludo a mí canal en tu próximo video amigos por favor??? 🙏🙏🙏🇨🇱😊🇬🇧, les envío un gran saludo y un gran abrazo desde chile para todos ustedes 🙋‍♂️👍🙏🇨🇱😊👏🗝️⚔️🗡️🤜🤛🛡️💍💪⛏️🇬🇧
@stulakin
@stulakin Месяц назад
And now they have the cheek to go and ban anyone that has commented. Poor show! Says it all really
@grahamduff9890
@grahamduff9890 Месяц назад
Just posted this on Boudicca rallies,I’ll probably get booted now 😮 and comment deleted. I’ve just watched the Grim Bleeper on RU-vid,him and his missus Holly are two fantastic people that I’ve never heard complain about any digs until now🤔 I wasn’t there myself so can’t comment but after watching the video and hearing the comments I’m glad I didn’t attend. They have no reason to lie they are two very well known and respected detectorists/youtubers,maybe admin could go and watch the video and then give them an answer in the replies.
@johenley7011
@johenley7011 Месяц назад
Any chance you two could run your own weekender? We’d all be signing up in a shot!
@GOGsGoDetecting
@GOGsGoDetecting Месяц назад
Absolutely right Grim, my check list is what I stick with. 1, Are the organisers tried and trusted. 2, Are there suitable provisions available "Toilets, food, entertainments" etc 3, Good atmosphere and ample room to meet with others. Anything after that is a bonus. See you at RCM & Detectival Hopefully.
@Skinnedrabbittattoo
@Skinnedrabbittattoo Месяц назад
See you there!
@bobcollins4978
@bobcollins4978 Месяц назад
Same here we traveled 3 and a half hours to go and left dinner time Saturday was so disappointed with the ground conditions
@debbiewilliamson3286
@debbiewilliamson3286 Месяц назад
Like you, I had been looking forward to this event for months, what a let down it was. I've been on day digs with these guys before, and the finds have been pretty good, but I left this one on Saturday night with a cut half as my only decent find. Gobsmacked that they legged it before the event ended
@pr5491
@pr5491 Месяц назад
Thanks for puttung this out there. My first and last event with this group too. The level of misrepresentation is tantermount to an act of fraud in my opinion. I felt like I had been scamned, along with evryone else I spoke to. Ive only got this expierainace to judge them on but left feeling that they are dishonest, unempathetic crooks. Happy detecting
@garethsims1780
@garethsims1780 Месяц назад
Learnt my lesson with these a few years ago even there day digs were the same
@YorkshireBoysDetecting1966
@YorkshireBoysDetecting1966 Месяц назад
True video Sir Grim and Miss Holly. We shall live and learn..Kind regards YBD
@peterwilson1699
@peterwilson1699 Месяц назад
Hey bro still a good day on the feilds thanks you two foe the video
@HammyHarris
@HammyHarris Месяц назад
Views doing well mate, one positive lol, see you at detectival👍
@PuddlesandFunshine
@PuddlesandFunshine Месяц назад
Come on Cheryl Dawes East of England Aug BH weekender. Bring plenty of finds boxes. Now that will be a weekender to contend with the RCM rally
@tracyann3431
@tracyann3431 Месяц назад
Get onto Digging History UK weekender, best reviews of a weekender ive seen, been on their one day digs & never disappointed. Top blokes!
@historyhunter3332
@historyhunter3332 Месяц назад
Wow, i feel bad for you : ( I wish you would have had a better time . I am from the USA ... Wisconsin. Funny how you seem like friends now after watching a lot of your videos, but you don't know me from Adam. hope you each find something amazing in your next times out !!
@lexieslarksandcrafts
@lexieslarksandcrafts Месяц назад
I read about this on one of the fb groups. Lots of angry and disappointed people feeling ripped off. 😢
@johnflewitt859
@johnflewitt859 Месяц назад
Sorry you had a bummer of a rally, but I was just glad to see you and Holly as it seemed a long break from your last video.
@RobRandom
@RobRandom Месяц назад
Cheers for the real info :) will see you at RCM :)
@GOGsGoDetecting
@GOGsGoDetecting Месяц назад
Oh No, Your going to RCM, Grumpy, fetch the Extra Big sack with you. This time we'll get him.
@Timdetects
@Timdetects Месяц назад
Unfortunately guys more and more events are going this way, there now businesses for some and there only in it for money, it’s no longer gold fever, and now cash fever, I done a weekender a few weeks ago and it was identical to your experience, fair play for calling it out and not sugar coating it for brownie points 👌🏻
@Ribs-ho2ov
@Ribs-ho2ov Месяц назад
Evening love your channel, I don't live to far away from you marshal street, surprised I've never bump into you on the beaches
@j15kuba.k57
@j15kuba.k57 Месяц назад
Now they kicking people out of the group for theirs opinions about shitty weekender,unreal
@TheDukesOfDerbyshire
@TheDukesOfDerbyshire Месяц назад
And that is the kind of action that speaks volumes. Deleting any negative comment and removing people from the group..
@deano1864
@deano1864 Месяц назад
I got removed for saying it was basically a shit show.
@Hiddensuffolkdetecting
@Hiddensuffolkdetecting Месяц назад
Shocking but happens all too often sadly 😔
@Garyfisherman36
@Garyfisherman36 Месяц назад
Thanks for letting us all know you’re experience such a shame for all that attended ❤
@CJBECK83
@CJBECK83 Месяц назад
I got blocked from that group months ago for questioning why they were charging top price for already detected land. All about the money so stay way clear.
@weedfreer
@weedfreer Месяц назад
If they left with patrons still at the venue, then, I’d imagine that their event insurance folk would like to know about this…that’s likely a breach of contract right there!
@cazwalton8535
@cazwalton8535 Месяц назад
They might not even have insurance - if everything else wasn’t as it should be how can we trust that this was in place. I certainly can’t !
@weedfreer
@weedfreer Месяц назад
@@cazwalton8535 in which case, maybe a word with Trading Standards would be in order as such an event would likely require it
@kevinlemon7787
@kevinlemon7787 Месяц назад
So sorry it was such a let down for you and everyone else attending. Thanks for posting the video and showing the truth of how you got on. Shame that some groups are in it now just for the money. Look forward to your next video.
@mickmck4033
@mickmck4033 Месяц назад
I went to this shit show , me and 3 mates , £400 with tickets and fuel ,6 hour round trip , left Saturday morning ,total rip off, got deleted from the group for saying what I thought of it , they want hanging out to dry ,he should do the right thing and re emburse people's money,first and last time I'll be going
@MartsTravel
@MartsTravel Месяц назад
I was due to go on that dig, I'm glad I couldn't make it now, weekenders are hit and miss detecting wise sometimes, I prefer the socialising on the evenings. A little note for future though don't really on other's for food always take some with you...
@AlexP-hl4wn
@AlexP-hl4wn Месяц назад
A good and valid video - while you probably prefer to make more entertaining films, this type of review is just (if not more) valuable to other detectorists, as it allows them to make informed decisions about if they decide to attend a dig organised by this group in the future. Until I see a stream of “10/10” and “5*” reviews, I won’t go anywhere near these clowns. Thanks for the honest report.
@davidgibb2341
@davidgibb2341 Месяц назад
Completely echo what both you guys said but it was really nice to catch up with you both again, all be it very brief. A few of us did manage to get on another dog today and all 8 of us had good finds within a few hours so it saved the weekend. Oh and cheers for the plug again Lucas 😂 love that pic!
@SuffolkSifter
@SuffolkSifter Месяц назад
Honest Video, thanks. See you at RCM 👍 Is their FB group still up? I can't find it.
@THEGRIMBLEEPER
@THEGRIMBLEEPER Месяц назад
Not that I know of 🤷‍♂️
@Skinnedrabbittattoo
@Skinnedrabbittattoo Месяц назад
It’s been hidden from public but still exists
@SuffolkSifter
@SuffolkSifter Месяц назад
@@Skinnedrabbittattoo - Ah !!!
@andydragonfisher6900
@andydragonfisher6900 Месяц назад
I’m new to the scene and have just signed up to my first weekend - sad to hear about the experience you guys had. One comparison I would make is with the Obstacle Course racing scene which was so popular pre-lockdown. Several Mickey Mouse companies popped up because they saw the money they could make and then provided really sub-standard events. They’ve all gone now because people voted with their feet. It’s such a small community that this company will reap the whirlwind I suspect.
@bottlecapdave2021
@bottlecapdave2021 Месяц назад
Rodney Cook will not disappoint. Looking forward.
@geoffmiller-1740
@geoffmiller-1740 Месяц назад
I agree it's great to be with people who have a passion for detecting and have a talk at night about the hobby with like minded people, but I stopped going to these mega weekenders a long time ago. Just stick to my permissions. When there's loads of money involved it usually goes tit's up.
@user-qr8bu9iu6f
@user-qr8bu9iu6f Месяц назад
This is why we stopped years ago and don’t go to rallies anymore. All about money making and treasure hunting in a stupid scale. This went on for years and years, too many people raping the land .They should be banned or licensed properly. It’s a shame too see this great hobby come to a state like this
@tidytreasurehunter1828
@tidytreasurehunter1828 Месяц назад
Well done guys everyone was disappointed. Just money makers I think all the best guys
@timatack
@timatack Месяц назад
I honestly think these big group / club digs are a terrible idea for the hobby anyway. On potentially good sites they just decimate the finds on an almost industrial scale. Unearthing history should be more measured and done with respect. Unfortunately where there’s a quick buck there’ll be more ‘events’ gang banging the fields like this .
@Nonprofessional_Tinkerer
@Nonprofessional_Tinkerer Месяц назад
i saw a FB post and you guys must have been at the same place
@markstonard1962
@markstonard1962 Месяц назад
Its all about the money, big business these days and when you look into the background of certain groups and the organizers, they have it all sown up to benefit themselves and there chosen few. Having said that there are some good genuine ones , but the bad outnumber the good sadly. Not been to a rally in years , my last one was nearly thirty years ago and remember the organizers had sown hundreds and hundreds of roman coins and artifacts , sorry you dig was bad guys , good job you have your own places to go
@darbysdownhomedetecting
@darbysdownhomedetecting Месяц назад
Man you wasn't kidding when you said it was a shit show.. sorry you had a shitty weekend. Yeah they definitely lied about everything didn't they ... All about the money 💰 unfortunately...
@DetectorDiggers
@DetectorDiggers Месяц назад
Often hear of people putting events on "undetected" land...yet some one on the dig or a local will tell you the truth, I'm off to just detect this year, i heard good things about there events, and have seen video's of the 3 spires dig of 2023 so i am hoping i will not be disappointed, the bars and live events, plus food stalls all look awesome too. Hope to see many of you there. 😊
@bassassin95
@bassassin95 Месяц назад
Sorry you didn't have a good weekend. My little sis Lady Liz at the end can make the a bad day sound good. Better days to come, cheers Boko👍
@1AndyMead
@1AndyMead Месяц назад
I can see where this one is going ! I totally get that people want to ' just get out' but I feel very strongly about groups reccying ground , just a bloke for a few days seeing what's about , and a general chat to the farmer or people in the area , just to get a feeling of the place & the ground before getting a load of people there . As for all the other stuff that went on , it sounds a complete shit show . Great clip , keep your chins up you guys have found some cracking stuff . Lastly Ive reccied land for a few local groups around Devon/ Cornwall , and they have refused to run digs if there's nothing coming up or the grounds crap
@JuliePorter-m5u
@JuliePorter-m5u Месяц назад
We were there and spoke to you both Holly & Griff, I asked about a refund last night on Boudicca as I feel that the whole weekend was a shambles. They have kicked me and my comment off their group surprise surprise😪
@davethorne6968
@davethorne6968 Месяц назад
Sounds like a shit weekend, are you guys going to RCM this year.if so hope to see you there
@Skinnedrabbittattoo
@Skinnedrabbittattoo Месяц назад
We’ll be there!
@charleswilliams8716
@charleswilliams8716 Месяц назад
you are too nice. once you realized you had been scammed should have gone "old testament" on the scammers. seems like thats the only way people learn about consequences these days. show up with a 10 pound sledge hammer to politely ask for your money back. but i don't know how it is over there. in the U.S. what i suggested might be a little illegal, but so is scamming a group of people out of 20,000. and times are tough right now. sorry for the long post. love your channel so thank you for posting these vids.
@Sdzimprotonmail
@Sdzimprotonmail Месяц назад
The only good thing to come out of this is I now follow your RU-vid channel. Do you advertise digs
@THEGRIMBLEEPER
@THEGRIMBLEEPER Месяц назад
I don’t advertise digs sorry buddy
@crewcutchuck1
@crewcutchuck1 Месяц назад
Unfortunately, this seems to be becoming more and more regular. If groups had admin staff as dedicated and honest as you guys, then there wouldn't be any issues. Keep up the good work, and better luck next time
@celticdetectorist4904
@celticdetectorist4904 Месяц назад
Ahh guys that completely sucks, people just after the money and dont care about the hobby. Will you guys be at the RCM? If so, maybe ill see you there 👍
@SuffolkSifter
@SuffolkSifter Месяц назад
I'll see you there 😀
@gavinrichardson2144
@gavinrichardson2144 Месяц назад
blimey ...they earnt nearly £20,000 for naff all???????
@gavinrichardson2144
@gavinrichardson2144 Месяц назад
for that money they could have put bands on in the evenings etc.......
@peternicholls6532
@peternicholls6532 Месяц назад
Well done for outing a shambolic group of money oriented people!. 80 quid per person and around 250 attended , that's 20 grand!! . I feel for you both .. I really do..ATB :)
@Paul_Grace
@Paul_Grace Месяц назад
Been on an organised dig today in Essex, my first one, and it was the same....Thanks for your honesty.
@tobo43
@tobo43 Месяц назад
Which dig in Essex was this? I was also on a poor dig in Essex yesterday
@deeparker5782
@deeparker5782 Месяц назад
Was it the BMDC dig?
@tobo43
@tobo43 Месяц назад
@@deeparker5782 Mine wasn't - I already avoid those like the plague...
@Paul_Grace
@Paul_Grace Месяц назад
@@deeparker5782 No
@Paul_Grace
@Paul_Grace Месяц назад
@@tobo43 Norwood End, The one promoted by the dealer LP...who didn't even turn up.
@Sdzimprotonmail
@Sdzimprotonmail Месяц назад
I’m blocked from their page now for a comment which wasn’t even that bad. The previous dig I attended with them was a weekender at Monks wood. Been detected to death. I went on the Saturday and the same fields were used on the Sunday!!
@bobbybaker1060
@bobbybaker1060 Месяц назад
Sounds awful Grim 80 quid aswell not cheap disgusting hope everyone don't go again who ever it was
@weedfreer
@weedfreer Месяц назад
Oh… looking at the title of the video, I thought the channel had switched its focus to an entirely different kinda content!! 😅
@magni1308
@magni1308 Месяц назад
Can you not claim your money back with PayPal fairly easily as you have rights, they didn't provide you with what they said.
@weedfreer
@weedfreer Месяц назад
To be fair, I’d sit here listening to you two’s venting for as long as you want. Crack-on!
@marierunsultra
@marierunsultra Месяц назад
Yes my arm was deffo the best find haha. Nice to see you but yes it was a shit show!
@tonyhynes1938
@tonyhynes1938 Месяц назад
Let’s hope they get shut down and people get their money back
@acoste0837
@acoste0837 Месяц назад
Thank you guys great video as always and will definitely be staying well away from this group
@ducttapedigger7811
@ducttapedigger7811 Месяц назад
Days like this will make the good ones great.
@girlnorthof60
@girlnorthof60 Месяц назад
You forked out a lot of money for this so called 'event'. Is that an average price per person/ per weekend (had they provided what they promised) it seems high to me?
@stulakin
@stulakin Месяц назад
Was a bit of a mess wasn’t it. It is a fantastic area for finds, but had been smashed by other clubs in the past. I was going to come and say hi to you both, but I was a bit shy 🤣 Unfortunate about the digging etc. better luck on your next outings
@Gary002
@Gary002 Месяц назад
Unfortunately ive been to more bad than good rallies, which is why i am not even attending any this year.
@TheSkeleton13
@TheSkeleton13 Месяц назад
Totally get this, I've been on many a dig that the organisers have lied about. Money hungry bandits are prevelant throughout the detecting world. You guys are 1 of the 4 channels I watch, keep up the brilliant work guys and if you get a chance, check us out, Heavy Metal Detecting. Cheers paddy
@Papa-Griff
@Papa-Griff Месяц назад
A bit? Bang on the money with what happened. Missed you both last night, but you definitely did the right thing leaving when you did. Some of the marshalls were really rude and uncaring when someone lost a coin he'd found... Absolutely took the p/ss out of him 😮
@davehaliburton7015
@davehaliburton7015 Месяц назад
Sounds like fraud to me taking the money and running
@dm51964
@dm51964 Месяц назад
Sounds awful and gave up on rallies ages ago through going to some as bad as this. Some who organise rallies are just out to make as much money as they can. If they cannot even provide the basics such as a food stall and water they not worth going to. Tell it like it is and good luck in future
@okok-xn4ev
@okok-xn4ev Месяц назад
All we see here is only a 1 side of a coin. I would like to listen to other side too, to draw my own conclusions, but unfortunately u guys gave us no chance , so yeah...
@Przemoorx
@Przemoorx Месяц назад
I have been to a few digs organised by this group and it has always been fine. I see a lot of contradictory comments on the group and I think in a way the herd instinct has kicked in and people have started to hate each other. I'm not defending these guys, because I just wasn't there, but it would be fair to have a public discussion with the organiser and hopefully a solution to settle it up. Incidentally, I was supposed to be at this weekend'er event, but chose to go on my own permit. kind regards
@moony82
@moony82 Месяц назад
If you voice your opinion, they boot you from the group. 🤷🏻‍♂️
@northlondonlass1498
@northlondonlass1498 Месяц назад
Thanks for doing this video, being very new to the hobby it’s vital information for us newbies. More than being lied to you’ve been scammed out of your money. Saying somewhere has never been detected and then easily finding out it has for over forty years is criminal deception. A few of you should get together and take them through the small claims courts for your money back. On a plus it brought Holly doing more to camera, which I thought she was excellent at and would love to see her do more 👍🏼
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