ABSOLUTELY GAMEBREAKING! Echo Pity Exists In Wuthering Waves?! 

Is this still available? Or is patched?

Mtashed made a video about yours! He cites you and all :] but to be fair the algorhythm also blessed you haha, you were in my recommended yesterday. Keep up the great content! Loved this video c: and thank you for sharing

hey kokkygachas I would like to mention that havoc dreadmane is the best elite class to farm pity for elites as I think they spawn infinitely? I could be wrong but I've killed a lot of them already and never seem to ran out of them

If this ever get patched can you update us?

Hey Kokky, I noticed something while farming echoes with your 50/50 method and wanted to tell you in case you wanted to check it out. At level 17 where the rate becomes 50/50 it seems like the echoes that drop alternate in 3/4s so basically from the bosses it's 3 purples in a row, sometimes 4 then 3 Golds in a row, this seemed to happen quite frequently as I farmed all day yesterday, just wanted to let you know in case you wanted to test this

Its good info, but practically speaking actually not so crazy and here's why. Say you want Monster A and you don't want Monster B. Presume you kill Monster A and get no echo, so the pity is 3 right? You go over to Monster B to "build your pity". But Monster B can drop an echo before pity as well, ruining the pity. So it ends up that you are going around killing monsters you don't want, since you can absolutely can get 2 echoes of Monster A back to back, as well as when you go to build pity on Monster B, and it's not a strict 1 every 4 kills. For boss monsters, I suppose this would be somewhat faster, but also more tedious, as instead of doing something else like farming other echoes while the boss is respawning, you have to teleport somewhere else, and spend effort fighting a boss that gives you nothing, then come back. During my testing I found that by the time I was done killing the 2nd boss and teleport back to the first, the first hadn't respawned yet, so I still had to wait. This plus the fact that you can also get 2 boss echoes in a row on the same boss (first try is a legit 20%), makes you wonder if it's worth going back and forth. The 2nd boss can also ruin your "pity". It is useful if you hate coop.

​@@michaelblue4619 no no there are ways to exploit it : First for overlord and calamity boss it basically means that the drop rate isn't 20% but between 40 and 50% which is HUGELY better as for elite class, there are mobs that are worse to farm than other, but you still wanna farm the less worth it ones, for instance : Let's say i'm building an Encore team and a Havoc Rover team, then i need fusion and havoc mobs, there's the havoc dreadmane which can drop both, so what i can do is farm any Havoc or fusion elite mob, and whenever i see that i missed 3 in a row, i focus an havoc dreadmane.

@@michaelblue4619 wait you're right this is kinda useless lmao for both 3 and 4 cost actually. It would be useful if the mobs werent infinite with coop but you can just kill the same mob instead of building pity which is a risk + the 4 cost are easy enough to get

@@michaelblue4619 I would actually say the elite drop pity more useful in a lot of circumstances. For example, currently I am farming two havoc sets for Havoc Rover and Danjin. What's been happening the past couple of days is that I have pretty much cleared the entire map of havoc drops and yet havent gotten anything useful. So, in this case, I can go kill elites that I'm not specifically targeting but wouldnt mind getting in between my targeted elites. For example, on my way over to the roseshrooms I'll kill a couple of monkey along the way. Sure, there will be times that your "pity" is ruined but this still doesn't lower the drop rates for the Havoc set. Especially since the drop rates outside of pity is fairly low at 20%, I think the strategy of killing just two elites after a drop before going back to your targeted elite can make farming much more streamlined. Takes a much longer time, yes, but if you're limited by the number of mobs that you are trying to farm this pity manipulation is a godsend. Edit: with coop its a lot less useful, but that said I think strategically killing elites when you are traveling from pack to pack will definitely help a fair bit still. For bosses, this also is useful since right now we can optimize boss kill times to be so fast you can go kill another boss and come back before the first boss respawns. So, I could kill lampy, if he drops an echo I go kill monkey before he lampy respawns and hopefully monkey doesn't drop echo. If monkey doesn't drop echo, my next lampy is guaranteed. If monkey does drop echo, nothing lost anyway since I would be waiting for lampy to respawn regardless.

@@nenrikido2903 For overlord and calamity boss, knowing pity exists wont change anything because you will still get the same number in a farming session. I guess the benefit is you can feel better and not scared of farming knowing it's not 20% haha. For Elite class, why farm something you don't want first? If you have infinite time in a day I suppose you can farm all the not important ones instead of the important ones first, but you can also coop and farm dreadmane alone all day. Farming one monster to extinction already takes quite some time daily.

@@syllanchan4528 Yes, but every class has their own pity count, so basically just disconnected. There are commons (with pity 8), there are elites (with pity 4), there are overlords (with pity 2, those are your normal field bosses like crownless) and calamities (with pity 2, those are your weekly bosses like dreamless). For bosses, basically everytime you don't get a drop, you are guranteed one next time.

getting right echo is like 1/3 of the way anyway rolling good subs and actually having materials for that is another hell of itself

​@@suony450920% drop rate --> 50/50 chance to drop gold at DB 18 --> right main stat --> having enough exp (Goodluck with that) --> rolling the right substats are a whole different story : D

I actually like that they didn't tell us. The secrets of game mechanics and finding them is one of the best aspects of any new game.

"NEW ECHO FARMING METHOD, AVOID THESE MISTAKES BEFORE YOU BRICK YOUR ACCOUNT" lol

If this is true, then this will completely change how popularised rng gear systems works in gacha games, players now would expect a sort of pity in gear system I certainly wouldn't wanna play a gacha game without a pity for its gear system in the future.

Tash man couldn't beat an easy boss yesterday after 2 hrs of trying. He ended the stream and hasn't been seen since

​@@GenshinGirlxxxhe quit confirmed

@@GenshinGirlxxx PGR moment

Well yeah its only been less than a week

idk if im dumb but i didnt understand whats he saying, could u explain

Love this shit

The 15 pity isnt a bug at all lmao, its a exhanced drop rate for bosses you get every week, the first 15 bosses have an increased drop rate of 80% instead of 20% if you are databank level 18, if you are databank level 20 then its 100% instead. This information is in the databank level up screen

The thinking is that even after you exhaust your 15 drops the drop chance should be just 20% not 1 in every 2

That's a shiny with a different colour scheme :)

@@leson1992Nah those are different things, I found a phantom rock golem the other day but a glowing yellow turtle that gave me a green

Noticed that the glowing ones (not shiny), in my case also are from an element they are not normally are

@@leson1992 glowing one with usual colour, shiny one is glowing but with different colour

Im sure well figure out the system in a few months

@@haruyanto8085 i will love kuro games if there's actually a pity system in this echoes, it makes me want to farm more due to the fact that i will get my desired sets lmao

I can actually check the sets i got based on the time i got the echo. Will report back if i get the time to do that Edit: I didn't notice any pattern as I gotten duped sets in consecutive drops but it might be a bigger pattern though I think it might not be as meaningful as the main roll is still the main stat roll

It's actually not that great and here's why. Say you want Monster A and you don't want Monster B. Presume you kill Monster A and get no echo, so the pity is 3 right? You go over to Monster B to "build your pity". But Monster B can drop an echo before pity as well, ruining the pity. So it ends up that you are going around killing monsters you don't want.

​@@michaelblue4619 It's actually a scientific approach to echo farming. Since he waa able to show us data and probability, it's more efficient than going around the map to hunt and not getting yung desired 3cost echo.

​@@michaelblue4619Yeah but you don't use up the limited 3 cost echoes that you ACTUALLY want and actually get more chance to roll for better main stat and echo set. Its not useless

@@michaelblue4619 the idea is that you want to guarantee you get the echo you want. even if monster B drops u dont want to take that chance on the echos you do want. you build the pity and make sure u 100 percent of the time get the echo u want. I believe this method does take longer but it removes the rng of farming a specific echo. plus you can use monster B echo into crafting other echos or even pick a monster that you dont mind getting but do not prefer it over the monster A.

@@whyvern6817 But most of the time when you farm echoes, you wont make it to the 4 pity. Just try it yourself. The probability of getting at least one echo from 3 units is around 50%. You could also get 3 echoes from 3 units. You just end up spending alot of time farming echoes you don't really want. Alternatively you can just join coop and farm the one you actually want all day. I guess it's just the amount of time you have to play a day versus the limit of monsters (that can be removed if you coop).

What's dreamless farm?

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@@OkSeardreamless is an echo and he’s saying he was farming for her drop/ i think

@@OkSear Dreamless boss isn't on a respawn timer and she's instanced. This means you can set her level to easy (40?), enter her instance, kill her, and port out. Repeat without waiting on the standard 3 minute boss respawn timer and she's significantly easier being able to adjust her level but maintain the same echo system.

@@setcamper ahh okay, thanks

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Also traffic light , who knows it flash beam to us....

"watching" I hope you mean listening lol

Guys don’t worry I was parked

yo thank you so much I have a bird brain so this helps me a lot

this would be inefficient though, because it'll always have a chance to drop before the 4th one, so just keep farming the one you need. if you kill the one you need 3x, just make sure you dont waste the guaranteed echo drop with a random on your 4th kill

Just wonder, why not just keep farming A? What's the difference of keep farming A vs farm B, C, D, E, F to camp pity then fight A? Afterall it's possible to get A consecutively too right? In that case if I want A, might as well keep farming A?

@@888lkw no bc first of all, the 3 star echoes are only limited and resets after a day so basically if you wanted to keep on farming on A echoes then all of them would be gone before you can even get all their echoes, so by this pity system, farming B, C, D, E, and F, you'd have 100% chance on getting the echoes from A, and no you can't get A's consecutively, at least what the data says

Does it apply to the boss section? Bosses like Crownless, Dreamless, Turtle and so on? I did not get the boss part and your explanation is very simple and understandable. Thanks

its not

Soft pity starts at 65 and ramps up from there, by 70, it's probably around if not more than 25% chance of winning, there's also a soft pity for every 10 pulls, starting at 7, the closer to 10, the higher the chance of being 4 star or above

You stupid kid? Just pull. You are not lucky enough.

For my current experience it’s still a bug. My chances got reset and after using all of them I fought dreamless 4 times and it didn’t drop anything