ACCELERATION BATTLE 200 km/h | Honda Civic 1.5 Turbo VTEC | MANUAL vs. CVT 

Yes but the manual has to deal with gear shifting

@@danniarrezafirdausy2538 whats wrong with that? It's easy people are just lazy.

Only thing I dislike about the cvt is it lacks gear shifting. Other than that, it sticks the car at the ideal powerband, which when tuned for track racing, its bests all. But when I daily my car, I need a clutch pedal and shifter

@@AIDAHAR210 Absolutely. I have a car with CVT transmission, and the way it goes just feels kinda weird. Manual is still the best in terms of fun since it really requires driver's attention and skill. (Pardon me for the bad grammar.)

@@MJT-DA nothing wrong, i like manual. But I think their cvt is not a joke either compared to other cvts

Nope since most cars are regulating the intake temperature anyway (at about 70°C mostly) :D

@@BruceCarbonLakeriver why would a car manufacturer "set" air intake temperature as 70 celsius for a car when it would get better fuel efficiency with lower temperatures?

@@GuilhermeGoto i dont think he's right... They do regulate the temperature, but not to 70 degrees lol... They tend to make it cooler via intercoolers, as the air tends to get hot while being compressed say at 6psi extra

CVT had less fuel... seemingly 50 pounds or more

@@BruceCarbonLakeriver If you have driven turbocharged cars before, you would notice the significant performance difference between a hot sunny day and cold day. The intercooler being a heat exchanger has a different thermal efficiency for such large changes in ambient temperature.

but you will scarified "COMFORT" (put yourselves in 6 hour heavy jam road for 100km)

@@isDatBoi fr like manuals are cool but now dcts and autos are gaining and especially in a traffic jam its aids

Yes. True

I love manual as well, but one thing you have to realize in a turbo car is that every time you shift in a stick shift, you gotta let off the gas pedal and subsequently, you lose boost. You have to build up boost again after each shift. I have a Mazdaspeed3 right now and it's pretty apparent. Auto/CVT/DCT don't have this issue as your foot is still on the gas as the trans shifts. That's what you see in this video when the speed is lower(doesn't help that the guy shifting the stick is a bit slow IMO). Of course, there are no lift shift tunes that combat this issue, but not a lot of cars have this function from the factory. You can also technically do it without the tune, but it's hell on your transmission and clutch.

@@kucharskipl If you have no-lift shift tune or you treat your clutch and transmission as disposables, go ahead. Not my car, not my money, not my problem.

Honda makes the best cvt

@@sharpvolt2669 Mitsubishi too ;)

What is cvt

@@rexsongodinho5623 CVT: Continues Viriable Transmission. Its a belt that continuesly changes with the more torque thats asked. Pretty interesting concept. The transmission gives you the most efficient power chosen for the engine. The only drawback is they dont pop and bang. And they just make a certain rev noise that most people dont like. But learn to drive it, it will be a great transmission.

@@V4YGR3 Honda actually made their car worse with their programming. Everything you said is correct but honda’s cvt would be more efficient if it weren’t programmed to rev like a traditional transmission. Honda knows this and if you go back to the battle you can see how the cvt drops it’s rpms to act like a traditional. This programming can help reduce stress on the engine at high rpms but if the cvt were used as efficiently as possible it would smoke the traditional by making max power 100% of the time. I have a 2019 civic btw.

acceleration yes,, but when you are slowing down and speeding up they are a bit choppy, and if you were on a track there would be no contest. just some food for thought. my girlfriend and I just bought one with a cvt and I have a 5 speed focus I like both.

@@richardparnell8402 This is a good point you highlight and a shortcoming on the viewers part when watching strictly-accelerating videos. It doesn't show the nature of the transmission in daily life. Definitely "rubber-bandy" and jerky for an "automatic"

@@worldofz00 thanks, yes I find when comming in and out of corners in a 5 speed I can be in the power band without even thinking about it. In a CVT it does take a second, it's not as smooth and you are guessing when the power will come on.

if your are considering CVT then choose Honda, there CVT is proven.

@@richardparnell8402 you can just use the manual mode 2 keep the revs up in the cvt. Bam instant response.

The car in normal mode sits at lower rpms so that it saves fuel. So when you step on it after, first it needs to increase rpm to get more HP, and then it goes. In sport mode it sits in high rpms all the time. HP = torque x rpm.

Thank You so much

There is VTEC.

@@vasilas432 there is no vtec (valve lift) in turbo engine, just dual valve timing. they add vtec on the exhaust cam only in the type R 2.0 turbo engine. see this for detail: www.civicx.com/forum/threads/vtec-vs-vtc-in-the-1-5l-turbo-engine-genx.10202/

@@plutomaximus2897 Thanks for letting me know. Actually from 4.000 the car starts to pull more aggressively

Pluto Maximus this is sorta off topic but for some reason the 1.5t accord with the L15B7 DOES come with variable valve timing and lift. www.hondainfocenter.com/Accord-Family/2020-Accord/Vehicle-Details/Engineering/Turbocharged-1-5-liter-Engine-select-models

honda city turbo 2020 have a vtec

The new civics don’t have vtec

@@user-ys8vs5lx5l 2017 Civic Hatchback is Vtec turbo

@@fizfilet5640 false I have a 2017 civic hatch it’s just a turbo and I have the sport model, only hatch that has vtec turbo is a type r

@@johngolabek8228 in Indonesia have Civic hatchback RS, that have vtec turbo engine

@@fizfilet5640 It's called vtec turbo, but it doesn't have the "traditiona" VTEC system in it (except typeR). That's just marketing now. Also, it isn't really needed anymore because of the turbo.

Agree

The Si is worth the upgrade. Just a better overall car if you’re ok losing cargo space.

The only trims that receive the red cluster interface is the sport, si and type R. Blue = base models like EX, EX-L, LX ...etc

The CVT is quick and I've smoked a lot of cars with it. Mine doesn't do the fake shifting.

@@acerockollaa Yeah my CVT in my lx. Accelerates quickly. I have no problems getting up to 100 mph almost instantly.

Mine doesn't do this fake shifting that happens in the video, if I put it in drive but brake hold on then plant the accelerator it just endlessly holds the revs as high as it possibly can indefinitely while you accelerate, I have no idea how the uploader even manged to get the car to fake shift like it is.

Lol...fake...of corse manual is faster than cvt...don`t bealeave this POS

all made in UK

that is not sport mode

@@l0stcluster2 no is sport mode in the gearbox

@@jacksonhuang2009 s is slope. and d is faster

@@l0stcluster2 🤣

Do you have 1.5t or 2.0 NA

Actually CVt was just as fast up to 140 or so

That might be true in the 90s but now autos are the fastest

@@kevanneclarke3363 with every other brand

Did you not watch the video ? Cvt was ahead until 170kmh lmao but cvt sucks, a good auto would do better

@@joshc606 umm cvt was faster for most of it hon

c'est plutôt parce que l'air frais est plus dense que l'air chaud...

The manuals actually does accelerate faster but the driver doesn't shift that well. The manual "pulls" harder but the shifts slow it down. But notice how it quickly begins regaining ground after every shift.

@Oğuzhan AK 2019 1.5Turbo Elegance var bende, çok memnunum. Herhangi bi sorunu sıkıntısı yok. Gözün kapalı alabilirsin

Alberto Iturria YES! It didnt seem so great from real experience. Its surprising!

I have the CVT. manual was always gonna be faster but if you put the CVT in S-manual mode you might get a bit more out of it.

That’s cuz it’s a Honda CVT

@@ContactFault but worst gas mileage

@@muldix Come race my 1.5 Accord cvt on a stage 2 tune on a 40 mile roll on Sport mode and we'll see how is faster..

IKR

Just barely. It doesn't matter, still boring

It’s doing it to eliminate stress on the engine at higher rpm’s

I wouldnt take any trans

CVT transmission: relaxed, no need to wank gearlever all the time, can eat icecream driving in city without a hassle... :D etc.

@@GaryKari "No need to wank gearlever all the time", that sounds like a downside to me.

@@TwixiGames I understand that well... I've had a manual cars for over 20 years. Now in my daily driver it's really not important to me to "have control of my cars gears". Maybe I'm just getting old...

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Rojo: manual Azul: cvt

and will last twice as long if not three times

@@dbzownz12345 that's what she said

I would guess the si is more closely matched in price and in 0-200 time to the WRX

hehe, try it faster by yourself... It wasn't lethargic at all...

Probably too reduce slipping and overheating

Wait until you're 20k miles in and it fails completely lol

@@aarongrisham5555 luckely i drive toyotas

@@ibj3 they also have CVTs these days

@@aarongrisham5555 yes but i never had problems with them. Owning cvt toyotas since 2008. Daily driving them only problems i had with cars were wheelbearings etc. Back in the day when i drove manuals they also said manual had clutch problems but had a 1989 camry and never had any transmission problems. Only with nissans also owned a x trail and a honda prelude those gave me alot of problems.

@@ibj3 that's all cap lol. CVTs go out no matter what company. And I if you have issues with ANY manual transmission, it ain't the car. It's the driver

most people do

@@swapop9055 americans*

@@turnersexplicit7912 well i think anyone would pick a reg auto over a CVT if there were only 2 choices (so no manual trans,DCT,Etc)

@@Nico_huuuuulkenberg cvt kinda gae

@@turnersexplicit7912 yes

Are u blind ?

0 - 130 CVT is faster

You mean manual has better torque?

Stupid comment. There is nothing dangerous on acceleration in the place, where other people expect you to go fast...

Same here bro. I have a Honda city 1.2 auto . It's too boring for me. I am gonna sell it and buy 1.5 Mt 2022

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@Tam Fam mine not

@Tam Fam maybe for the model 2017, mine is 2020

@Tam Fam loool

The fast flashing is a feature on almost all modern cars when you hard brake.

They have to fake the gear shifting because people find it’s weird for engine rev to stay constant when accelerating.

He dfnt put both cars in sport mode or normal mode .. The light in the cluster are two different colors ...

Automatics are just lazy and you only RIDE in them. You don't DRIVE them like you would a manual

I have a tuned 1.5 Accord cvt and others have hit 140 mph...