Turns out I got an important detail wrong in this video: They actually have double wishbone suspension in front, and multi-link in the rear. Apologies, should've checked my sources!
@KiwiCarLife are you heaps happier now, with a manual trans in the CL9? Is the CU2 auto sluggish in comparison, and if you have driven a manual in the CU2 - what are your thoughts?
@@xcharles1 I have driven a CU2 manual and tbh it's a bit of a boat with the manual being a bit of an afterthought. It didn't feel bad, and it does definitely have shorter ratios than the CL9 which is nice, but the car so do heavy its definitely no sports car. It is a "nice" car for sure tho
@@xcharles1 I think it's def. better to compare the CU1/CU2 with more luxury-oriented sedans than their previous gens. And they are definitely better suited with a V6 (or turbocharger) rather than a K-series screamer. Was thinking about K-swapping my CU1, but the more I think about it, the less it excites me. The 1.513kg car will require more torque I think than the K-engines can provide, especially outside of VTEC. And since it's goint to cost thousands of euro's, that'd be quite the let-down if it doesn't feel fast. The boat-y feel is probably down to the way-too-soft suspension, because it is Double wishbone front and rear, so it's not a bad geometry. Now I have to decide to either turbocharge the R20 or spoon in the J35Z6 of the Acura TSX V6 (same body/chassis) of the same year. :)
Ngawww this video brings back memories!! About 10yrs ago i bought my 1st ever accord euro n loved it, then i bought a euroR n loved it even more, then my typeR journey started with a dc5R which i sold about 2yrs ago, now i own a fd2R which sadly is going tomorrow to be replaced by the almighty fk8R which i am so extremely excited!. Yes i am a honda fanboy n i will keep buying type Rs for as long as honda keeps making them
Hell yeah bro My first R was a JDM EP3 civic Type R, I have that still My CL7 Accord Euro R arrived from Japan a few days ago and is waiting at the port for me to pick up. I plan on owning all the JDM type R’s made. Except the Insanely unaffordable NSX-R😀
@@jimbojims i never owned a ep3 but would love to so if u wanna sell it? 🤣 And the cl7 euro R is such am amazing car, i personally love the looks of it. How do you import your cars from japan? I bet is a lot cheaper
Hey, regarding the euro r, would you be able to answer a few questions I have? in 6th gear at 100 kmph, what sort of rpm are you sitting on? is the seats as uncomfortable as portraited in the video? I am considering getting an Euro R, however I fear that the drone of high revving at normal speeds will make it a not so enjoyable car. Your comment is appreciated
@@caioronnau5226 I've owned a DC5 with recaro sr4's and they are definitely not comfortable because of the aggressive bolstering. They're hard to get in and out of, don't have much cushioning, and they squash your knees together making it hard to just relax. The Euro R's seats by comparison are less aggressively bolstered, however they are still quite hard seats which I don't like. In terms of revs, I believe it sits about 3000rpm. With all stock exhaust and Intake however its not droney at all. My dc5 on the other hand sat at 3500rpm and that was a little droney on the motorway. Hope this helps!
I have the 06 euroR sitting in storage, 97k km on the clock collecting dust lol.. moved overseas 3years ago and have missed since, can't wait to holiday home and take it for a drive. This vid made me miss it more 😢
2006 Acura TSX 6MT owner here! Basically identical to the Euro S with some different interior details (leather, nicer shift knob, dash, and tuned slightly higher here in North America I believe-about 205hp). Picked one up with 145k on it. Really does tick all the right boxes: comfortable, fun-ish to drive, and disturbingly reliable. I wish it had just a touch more power stock is my only quibble! Also my god that Euro R sounds incredible!
Question out of curiosity, does the headlight and tail lights of both models the same? and if there's any differences, what are they? (I'm still looking to see any differences! lol)
@Bruce Zhan just give it a service and replace stuff if it breaks - these cars are dead reliable with few known issues like porsche's ims bearing or bmw's water pump
Greeting from JPN:) Awesome vid. I have my 05 euro R, but I’m really interested in your euro S. Because JDM 2.4L accord called “type S” doesn’t have manual gearbox...
The manual CL9 is actually renamed as Honda Accord CL9 Sport in New Zealand. It specifically made for Australian and New Zealand. They don't exist in Japan. This is similar to The US version of Acura TSX CL9. This is why Japan never had the option of a manual CL9 from factory.
I have a CL7R 2002 only has 80k on clock, I love my car so much! Just recently have transmission fluid changed. clutch sensor dead few weeks ago, maybe it is one of the common issues on this car.
In Serbia (Europe), CL accord with k24 had 2 trims. TypeS, exactly the same look as euroR, with k24 inside and MT, and Executive, pretty much bare bone exterior (no lips, and spoilers), same grill and wheels as euro S in video, followed with leather interior, sun roof, heated auto seats, and all that luxury stuff. I first time see in this video this euro S version, and it looks wierd to me, kinda like executive and typeS hybrid
I wonder to all those people who said the Euro R won’t stand a chance as soon as you flash/remap the k24 Euro S, how many of them has actually driven a Euro R to say
Cool video bro.. tbh u inspired me to start my own channel. It’s all about DIY MODS for the tsx .,, I appreciate your hustle and thanks for putting out amazing content!!! Thanks again🔥🔥video
Just curious on the steering feel of the two cars. I find one of the CL9s weak points is the steering stability can be a bit lacking (ie. Car tramlines) and isn't the most precise. How does the CL7 EPS system compare?
The Momo steering wheel feels a lot nicer, smaller wheel so easier to make quick adjustments. I'd really have to get them out on track to notice any difference tbh. Euro S is definitely a heavier rack but isn't necessarily more direct feeling, and definitely tram lines as you say which is very annoying
My CL7 euro R steering is very direct and responsive when turning. It responding to every subtle changes of steering position. But I can't say this for other Euro R CL7 though because of my suspension set up isn't the same as a lot of them. I kept mine at good height and the car came with factory optional Mugen Suspension. The ride height wasn't as low as lowering springs or the adjustable but for me it is perfect for daily usage.
Gotta love that vtec cross over on the euro🙌 Has anybody on here put a turbo on their cl7?Iv totally stripped the car down to do a full restoration and even though I love that fresh out of the factory look...its time for some changes like More power, gt wing, vented carbon bonnet that kind of vibe ...I’d love to know if people recommend a turbo kit or custom kit ?any advice is welcome 🙏
Sounds like you've got quite the project on your hands! In terms of turbo kit I'd be about the worst person to ask for advice haha, but I'm sure there'll be someone on here that has experience in that area
Basically the tsx is a type r k24 dtune from the factory Honda dirty little secret and i make little kids looking stupid with my supercharger k24 2005 tsx
I searched over a year for a 08 tsx in Ontario Canada. Picked up a mint 05 with 144k km 6 speed manual. I've seen bidding wars for the first gen tsx and 08 tl type s. They don't make them like that anymore sadly.
@@oneshot-po9qk well i have my tsx and I am not going to sale it bc they getting hard to find and my family loves my tsx we use it in the weekends or some doctors appointments for my parents and the rest of the month we use the crapy car for everything and the first generation tsx will be classic cars soon so i only will drive my tsx on weekends this cars are going up in price bc the k24 they have and history off racing so if you got one get a crapy car and put the tsx in the garage
I have a question for the cl9/cl7 community... My 2005 cl9 acura tsx is worrying me because of high Air Intake Temperature. My (A-I-T) ranges from 113-130°f with 70-90°f ambient. Can you tell me what your air intake temperature is? I think this is not normal because other vehicles I've gauged stay around 10°f above ambient temperature. I noticed in this video that the intake on one of the cars has tape around the intake hose and im wondering if it is normal for this vehicle to have a hot air intake???
I have the Cl7 euro r but mine has a nice gt3076r turbo on the engine,twin external wastegates,1000cc injectors, aem wideband controller, epman adjustable fuel pressure regulator, custom sidewinder exhaust manifold, custom 3 inch exhaust system, front mount intercooler, hondata kpro v4 ecu, stock internals,dyno tuned 265kw 8psi😁
In theory yeah? The exhaust system on the euro R and CL9 is basically the same I think. It's just the base 2.0L ones that are different because they only have one tip
@@KiwiCarLife The Honda K series wiki en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honda_K_engine has it listed as: 197 hp; 147 kW @ 6800 rpm for the JDM Type-S and 150 kW; 200 hp) @ 6800 rpm for the Accord Euro AU/NZDM
@@golf1diesel Not necessarily, at a skeleton level the CL7 and CL9 are virtually identical - it's not like the Euro R has heaps more aluminum to shed weight. Stock for stock the CL7 has firmer suspension, but some lowering springs in the CL9 can easily square that up.
The seats seemed in decent shape on this one and for me there's nothing wrong with the shape of them. I fit fine, as opposed to the DC5 seats which squashed my torso and legs in. The main thing is there's no cushioning. You get in and it's like sitting on a church pew. Whereas the CL9 seats as I said are "squashy". Also I've found with all recaros there's little back support. Legit I'm still having lower back problems to this day thanks to 9 months in my integra's recaros
The euro S he speaks of is available in South Africa as a Honda accord cl9 executive. The type S has the euro R trim and body kit excluding the seats . Imo once you flash the k24 that euro R simply just won't be any competition , even on the track with that LSD I'd still put my money on the type S. The 2.4 engine is the one to have .
Hmmmmmm I dunno, the reflash certainly doesn't add 30hp, and the Euro R has shorter ratios... Sure the K24 has more potential for upgrades because its not as highly strung from factory, but I think you'd have to put a euro r gearbox and diff in it, along with a CAI, headers and tune before you start making euro r power levels.
@@KiwiCarLife I got a CL9 Accord Type-S, my "mods" are K&N cai, serge bo headers, fox cat-back exhaust and a reflash. Before the reflash with the mods on i was making 213 hp after the reflash i was making 225 hp. Believe me the reflash is worth it! Even without mods. You'll be able to engage VTEC much earlier, mine starts at 4.500 rpm, and before the reflash it started at around 6.500 rpm.
@@KiwiCarLife AS a drivers car , the cl1 has a more raw feel to it . good old school vtec engagement , no traction control or stability control . smaller , lighter and same power as the Cl7 . Think of it like a slightly bigger more powerful db8 itr
Is it that the cams are mire aggressive and compresion killer in the K20? It would be good to see what devices both engines. How is the support with after market performance parts with the K24 Compared to the K20. Structurally are they similar in strength
@@KiwiCarLife How does the V6 option compare to these motors. Is there as much after market backing and what is the structural integrity like? Would be mad to hear one of these sounding like an NSX in a tiny civic or integra
@@KiwiCarLife there are 4 spec, 1) basic as the one u show in video, 2) with the smartcard only,3) with GPS only, and 4) last one with both GPS and smartcarf. The last one will have the cruise control as standard and rear spoiler similar to your type S
@@hemri3432 hmmmmmm I dunno, I've certainly seen euro R's imported here to NZ with nav but never with cruise. Only ones I've seen with buttons on the steering wheel are for speaking to the nav system.
@@KiwiCarLife sorry my bad, not navigation but smart card 🤣🤣🤣, and yeay u are correct they are not cruise control, its just a voice activation button. My bad 😅
@@KiwiCarLife flash it and remove the big resonator at the end of the intake. Works well on my 06 TSX. K20 is a bit too small for the heavy CL9, ok for the FD2R.
@@155stw yeah already done that on mine, haven't noticed that much of a difference... I got a Serge Bo tune, everyone seems to be saying I should get Hondata or something better...
@@KiwiCarLife I saw someone posted Hondata vs Serge Bo’s tune, Hondata has more power. Maybe Serge move the VTEC crossover point lower making it feel more responsive. I got the Hondata. Also at the end of the intake tube in the bumper area, l Installed a big bell mouth, sounds less deep but racier.
What’s a Euro S? Isn’t it “ Type S “. Would make more sense calling them Type R & Type S. Also your comparison is misleading. Theres a Type S version with the same honeycomb grill & lip kit. The lip on your Type S is more of an Aspec style lip kit.
Euro S has 140kW K24A3, Type S has 148kW K24A2. Type S is only sold in Japan, Euro S is sold in NZ, AUS and Europe. It's called a "Euro S" because they came in two variants the S (base model) and L (model with leather, HID's and sunroof etc.), hence Euro S and Euro L. Type S and Type R are JDM only. The thumbnail has Type S in it because I couldn't find a logo saying "Euro S" but either way the difference between the Euro S and Type S is a couple of styling differences, and a negligible amount of power.
hey man a lot of people say that the euros are good but the only problem is that the gearbox isnt good can i just get ur opinion on that because im tryna think if ur always slamming the gears and killing the car the gearbox is gonna break but if u dont is it still good
That all depends what lemon u end up buying haha i own a cl1 and the gearbox has taking a hiding for over 13 years and is still rather smooth yea i had to replca the clutch but there gearboxes are made strong
The Auto ones are nice, but they've got very long gears, and only 5 as opposed to 6. As a result, they've got a bit of grunt, but it's hard to keep it in the powerband with a limited gear selection and long gaps between them. Tbh it's hard to compare them
I had an auto Euro S. Nice car to drive but the auto's are notorious for giving up the ghost. Apparently it is recommended that the transmission fluid and filter changed every 40,000km. Which I found out the hard way when the gearbox packed up.
I have a USDM 08 TSX 6-speed with the 2.4 motor, I would NEVER want the 2.0L engine in this 3400lb car. Mine has Hondata and a few other goodies, completely transformed the car. The gearing is what hurts this car along with the terrible stock Honda tune.
@@KiwiCarLife They need a little more then that to wake them up. The stock dual exhaust system is super restrictive along with the header. There is 30-40 WHP their with a quality header and single 3” exhaust(oh the noise) along with a tune. Guys make 230-240WHP all day long with these motors with simple bolt-ons. Yes, the gearing sucks the car falls out of the powerband in 2nd gear, but Hondata fixes that. The gearing is still too long though...haha
@@leodoingthings1706 oh yep nah its all good I bought a second hand racelogic vbox for $300 - you're probably right, it's a good investment for future videos
Man, you could have used a more decent Euro R engine bay. Or at least have it cleaned 😅. If have you want, I have a black preface lift CL7 euro R if you would like to review it. I have a tidy one in Hamilton.
Yeah I know it wasn't the best, but I just took what I could get! Cheers for the offer I really appreciate it, but now I've reviewed this one, probably don't need to do another...
@@KiwiCarLife let me know if you changed your mind. I'm from Hamilton. My car is one of the first CL7 but it has Spoon ECU and Mugen Suspension plus a lot more. It was built for handling over power and practicality for daily. It has been tastefully modified.
