Civic Type R FD2 vs Accord Type S CL9 - K20 vs K24

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A few months back I compared the FD2R Civic with the latest FK8.
• Civic Type R FK8 vs Ci...
But clearly you guys were keen to see the legendary, last-of-the-line K20 Type R compared with my Accord! Let's see how the K20 stacks up against the K24.
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CL9 Modifications:
- ECU Reflash
- Corona Cold Air Intake
- PLM Headers
- Yonaka 2.5" Catback Exhaust
- DC5 Type R Gearset
- Hawk Performance Brake Pads
- Tein S-Tech Lowering Springs
- Sparco DS1 18x7.5 +48 Wheels
- 225/45R18 Bridgestone Potenza RE003's
- Flow Designs Australia Lip Kit
- Type S Grille
- Euro R Shift Knob
- Modulo Sports Kit and Spoiler
Chapters:
0:00 Intro
0:17 Exterior
1:15 Drivetrain
2:24 Interior
4:34 FD2R Driving Experience
7:20 CL9S Driving Experience
9:17 Outro
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@silverfd2r 2 года назад

I just bought a FD2R. The constant bouncing on the road, the turning radius, it really feels like you're driving a race car. I still have the original exhaust and so the VTEC feels even more intense when the car which is usually pretty quiet suddenly starts screaming.

@KiwiCarLife 2 года назад

Haha nice yeah it's a bit too race car for me. Driving dynamics are spot on, but it pays for it in the liveability

@mando3703 Год назад

I want an fd2 so bad but I'm in the US 🥲 luckily I have an evo x but still I love the fd2 in my opinion the best looking type r

@08CL9 2 года назад

The FD definitely needs a ram/cold air intake of some sort, its always the first mod I do to any honda and I've had a few over the years as it always puts a smile on your face 🙂 the vtec sound just isn't the same without it 🤷‍♂️

@KiwiCarLife 2 года назад

Yeah for sure the K20A sounds great with a poddy

@08CL9 2 года назад

Off topic question but what's the camber wear like on your tyres since you lowered it?

@KiwiCarLife 2 года назад

@@08CL9 fine because it's not cambered - I got it aligned

@fionnbharrmoorehead880 Год назад

I have had a bone stock FD2R for a few years now and every single time I drive this car I smile. The handling is just amazing and you can feel when its right on the edge. Just feels like the last Type R for someone who likes to feel like they are racing.

@KiwiCarLife Год назад

Yeah man they’re awesome aye

@battosaijenkins946 2 года назад

God, the FD2 is so mythical. To many of us here in North America it is the best looking honda ever made!!

@KiwiCarLife 2 года назад

Mmm it is very very lovely

@doghorsefish9320 2 года назад

“You’ve gotta just decide whether the FD2 is 3x better” Well put.

@KiwiCarLife 2 года назад

Yeah thought that was a good non biased way to sum it up

@kaiwilliams12 2 года назад

No rolling race? Would've been intresting to see how you're modifications stack up to the type R. No doubt the civic would pull away, but how well can you keep up 🤷🏽

@KiwiCarLife 2 года назад

Yeah civic would've probably pulled a little, then again mine kept up with a euro r. Couldn't do the rolling race due to time contraints unfortunately

@greengoblin343 2 года назад

@@KiwiCarLife I think the FD would have the edge power to weight but yeah a rolling and standing drag race would be great to see

@gabrielgalindo4515 2 года назад

I think the K 24 would have take it all the way. I have a 2013 si Sedan with fbo, man let me tell you. I walk all kinds of cars lmao 😂

@Intothyvoid666 2 года назад

The good old us 25 year import law 🥲

@Esdru221 2 года назад

RRC intake manifold (the FD2 ones) jr35 throttle body, tsx cams and 50° vtc pinion + hondata. Add that and you will get 250hp NA. And for finish, i'd put an fn2 lighter flywheel (maybe you already have it?) and a dc5 LSD. with that your accord could destroy any NA type R

@KiwiCarLife 2 года назад

Yeah very true... would be cool to do!

@funghung6918 2 года назад

Do the same mods with any type r and you will see the type r pulls away no doubt. What it matters is the weight. Pointless to compare modify vs stock imo.

@Esdru221 2 года назад

@@funghung6918 No, because the mainly mods that unleash the k24 power, are pieces the k20 already have. An all motor K24 makes around 15hp more than a k20 with a huuuuge difference in torque

@luisfreites2387 2 года назад

I have an 09 FA5 Si (FD2s lil brother) i have the accord K24A block with the Si k20z3 head & cams, DC5 oil pump, RBC manifold, 64mm TB and FBO… tuned on Hondata it made 240hp and 190tq and revs till 8700 rpms with Vtec at 4500. I think it’s the best of both worlds between the K20 & K24

@KiwiCarLife 2 года назад

Yeah man if you're getting 8700rpm from a k24 that would be awesome - biggest Achilles heel is the oil pump that won't let it rev out beyond 8. Once you fix that, the K24 is infinitely better than the K20

@crankZOD Год назад

You have a full 3" exhaust? You need a bigger TB also. I put down 235whp 165wtq on a k20a2, ktuned swap header, rbc, ktuned 72mm, rdx 410cc, custom 3" exhaust and z1 cams

@jwinters5306 2 года назад

That type r looks really fun to drive and truly is a timeless design just like your type s. Can we get a break down of your complete suspension setup?

@KiwiCarLife 2 года назад

Yeah good fun and just lowering springs

@insomniactm7528 2 года назад

Love the vids, keep em coming

@KiwiCarLife 2 года назад

Thanks man will do!

@Gamer_Marcy_God Год назад

Would have preferred more review about the handling of the fd2r compared to the CL

@KiwiCarLife Год назад

Fd2 is better, more sharp. Pretty sure I talked about that in the video?

@MElekiaZ 3 месяца назад

Im from Spain and fd2 not released here but in mids 2000s i remember the Accord win Championships in Portugal against other japanesse and europea brands. Imagine fd2 is better because is lighter.

@KiwiCarLife 3 месяца назад

Yeah and a host of improvements as it’s a purpose built type r

@civic95reborn 2 года назад

I use to say the same thing about FD2 TypeR but after owning 3 FN2R's, 6 CL9 and 1 CL7, they are not even in the same league as FD2R. I don't know what has Honda done to this car but its in a class of its own, its an engineering marvel. I also own an FK8 and S2000 btw so yeah i know how to drive fast cars :D

@KiwiCarLife 2 года назад

Yeah it's good, not worth three times the price of a CL7 tho

@golf1diesel 6 месяцев назад

@@KiwiCarLifeHow about CL7 or FD2 ? Difference in price between them is at least £8k.. ive got a 2009 Mazda 2 sport, probably won't be able to own 2 cars. Can FD2 cope with being a family car as well? Does it have cruise control?

@oscarkabowski8413 2 года назад

Would have been nice to line the two up. Power to weight ratio would have me believe that the FD2 would be quicker, especially in and out of corners on the twisty back roads. I think you should keep modifying the CL9 though, just to see how much chop you can get out of that K24. A k20 head and some cams would really make your Euro something else.

@KiwiCarLife 2 года назад

Yeah for sure man I reckon it would've given it a run, but yeah given the weight difference and the fact he had hondata and 5.1fd I'd say the FD would pull. Definitely pull through corners

@oscarkabowski8413 2 года назад

@@KiwiCarLife either way, I’m still so impressed how that Accord goes for what it is. I’m green with envy my Kiwi friend.

@KiwiCarLife 2 года назад

@@oscarkabowski8413 Thanks man

@marcusandginareacts5197 2 года назад

You should compare an fn2 with the fd2! same generation civic type r

@KiwiCarLife 2 года назад

Yeah that would be interesting

@The_Slippery_Slope_NZ 2 года назад

Best looking in Honda's IMO ( no particular order ):- DA/DC Integra's (after DC's they just got ugly) EF/EK Civics CL9 Accords BA7 Preludes

@zeroyon4562 2 года назад

Agreed. A guy on my street has a beat up maroon DA6 teg xsi, I’d like to rescue it. They just look so good.

@KiwiCarLife 2 года назад

I'd say: AP2 S2000 NA2 NSX CL7 Euro R FD2 Type R The older Hondas are good, and might deliver the most "raw" driving experience, but they're just too old for me. No features, cramped, rattly interior, impractical and old so they'll start having paint fade, rust, burning oil issues. To me the golden era of Honda was the later K series era: DC5, FD2, CL7/9, AP2 and so on. These were the last "truly great" Honda sports cars before they all disappeared for a bit.

@thatguyben3128 2 года назад

*FD2 type R* 🔥🙌🏼🔥

@KiwiCarLife 2 года назад

It's one of the best hondas ever made my man. So good

@etirnty3837 8 месяцев назад

Is bros RU-vid channel just to talk about how much better his car is then every other car?

@KiwiCarLife 8 месяцев назад

Haha not entirely but I was a bit more biased in my old videos

@laukevin5504 2 года назад

I owned CL7 , FD2 and Boost blue FK8 at the same time, finally decided to sell FK8 cuz feel like a family car.

@KiwiCarLife 2 года назад

Interesting, yeah if you like the old school Honda engines, fk8 won't cut it...

@kennygeoffrey 2 года назад

Really lau im in the middle choosing fd2 or fk8 iv tested fk8 but not the fd2

@Monsters-bs1vm 2 года назад

@@kennygeoffrey me too. Lol

@Kurtster600 2 года назад

My two favorite 4 banger Honda sedans!

@KiwiCarLife 2 года назад

Good choices!

@yukonstriker1703 3 месяца назад

Aren't you concerned about the K&N air filter allowing way more fine particles into the engine as opposed to the stock air filter? Recently heard using a K&N filter is close to having no air filter at all..

@KiwiCarLife 3 месяца назад

No not in the slightest

@endlesstwisties 2 года назад

You just can't compare. Best N/A FWD ever made for track with a car for retired people on steroids. As you said. Lucky to even drive that FD

@Esdru221 2 года назад

That accord could wipe the floor with fd2, he just haven't the proper mods

@KiwiCarLife 2 года назад

If I compared the CL7R with the FD2R I bet you wouldn't be saying the same thing. Mine is basically just a K24 Euro R and I've proven it's faster. No retired people here.

@walton1231 2 года назад

I take it you haven't seen the m&m accord? I get it though, the fd2 body is a step up straight away on the cl9, at least the cl7 euro r is strengthened in certain areas 👍

@endlesstwisties 2 года назад

I said a word that everyone seems to miss in my comment. Track! . For straight lines any car can be fast or very fast with the right money pumped in.

@walton1231 2 года назад

@@endlesstwisties agreed. Out the box a fd2 is an absolute gem round a track and that was its goal from the go although a euro r can be made just as good or better, when modded of course. Double wishbone front is a big one with the cl as favoured by spoon and m&m but weight reduction is required.

@cozifpv2069 2 года назад

Dream car for me but they go for big money here in the UK

@KiwiCarLife 2 года назад

Oh yeah absolutely man

@Peterz32tt 2 года назад

I love the videos bud !!! I've got an S.A Spec CL9 Type S - and i am planning on a few basic mods while still keeping it as a daily. What would you say is the best FIRST mod ?

@Esdru221 2 года назад

Reflash, without any doubt. Then intake and a good exhaust manifold and you get 220hp

@KiwiCarLife 2 года назад

Yeah reflash, header (exhaust manifold) and cold air intake

@JA-si5rf 2 года назад

I've a K24 EP3 if you want to review it. In Auckland though

@KiwiCarLife 2 года назад

Funny you say that haha - I've had a guy with a k24 fit and a k24 s2000 message me. Surely we film a k24 accord vs civic vs s2000 vs fit vs integra video haha. Hit me up on insta @kiwicarlife.yt

@HashDogg06 2 года назад

@@KiwiCarLife You should all meet at a drag track day in Meremere, would be interesting to see all these cars go head to head.

@Carmelov2012 4 месяца назад

Try a k20/24 build for your cl9 and you’ll never envy a type r again.

@KiwiCarLife 4 месяца назад

Yeah I’ve driven k24 frank builds and they’re definitely the best of both worlds

@jrhpng 2 года назад

Super tidy tasteful Civic, need to lose those horrible taillights though... 🤙

@KiwiCarLife 2 года назад

haha yeah not my first choice lol

@HashDogg06 2 года назад

Yep, that is the only let down with the FD2.

@NikolaMar1nov 2 года назад

It would be very interesting video to compare your accord k24 vs tuned 2.2 i-ctdi

@KiwiCarLife 2 года назад

Yes well I've got someone with a diesel accord he's just waiting to get it coz covid

@nicholaswong9922 3 месяца назад

I'm gonna make 40k aud and buy an fd2r. Mannn that's my dream carrr

@KiwiCarLife 3 месяца назад

They're so nice! 25-35k NZD here

@AutoRevLife Год назад

I've always found the European civics of this generation to look fresher than the American release

@KiwiCarLife Год назад

Yeah definitely

@NowIknowCh 2 года назад

Is steering same as Euro r? Both are electric

@KiwiCarLife 2 года назад

Nah both are hydraulic

@saabiq1441 7 месяцев назад

Hey bro howd u chrome delete your window trim?

@KiwiCarLife 7 месяцев назад

I didn’t? Some came with chrome others didn’t

@TorpedoJohnson 2 года назад

I love my Civic SI FG2 similar to the FD2. Just not quite as cool as the FD2 of course, but one can dream atleast... :P

@KiwiCarLife 2 года назад

Nice yeah the 8th gen SI is a great car

@DulceSeeker 11 месяцев назад

why did you actually sell Intergra may I ask?

@KiwiCarLife 11 месяцев назад

Too hard and uncomfortable for daily use. I do 30,000km a year

@everachong2067 2 года назад

Do a manual v6 7th gen accord comparison to your car. It'd make a great video

@KiwiCarLife 2 года назад

It would, however they don't exist here. US only

@everachong2067 2 года назад

@@KiwiCarLife you don't get access to manual versions of the cm5, cm6, cm7, cm8?? In the us the manual cm6 was limited to two years, 06 and 07.

@KiwiCarLife 2 года назад

@@everachong2067 nah no manual, only the cl9 came as manual

@kolec76 8 месяцев назад

Bro I wanted to find out about the cornering difference, because of the weight of the car etc, write me a short comparison!!!!!!!

@KiwiCarLife 8 месяцев назад

FD2R is definitely a better handling car, lighter, glued chassis, firmer suspension, but a well set up euro r or euro s will also handle well because double wishbone. But in this comparison there’s no comparison between a civic type r and normal accord

@kolec76 8 месяцев назад

@@KiwiCarLife thanks mann

@Xenirie Год назад

that accord is sharper and more timeless than the civic imo

@KiwiCarLife Год назад

I'd agree

@omerjamil195 Год назад

Can you compare a Euro R with an FD 2 type r? They both have the same engine so they should be similar or are they?

@KiwiCarLife Год назад

Yes very similar, fd2 is more raw

@omerjamil195 Год назад

@@KiwiCarLife hmm interesting

@nle_init2751 2 года назад

Gidddey harry

@KiwiCarLife 2 года назад

Gidday

@ArunaVidu 2 года назад

Can you do a comparison between your car and a 8 gen Galant

@KiwiCarLife 2 года назад

If we get one traded at Honda I will

@norrisj.z5819 2 года назад

It looks ADM Honda's ACCORD Euro S. EDM and JDM has TYPE S ACCORD.

@KiwiCarLife 2 года назад

Same thing

@omerjamil195 Год назад

Hello, Can you compare euro r with this civic type r?

@KiwiCarLife Год назад

Potentially

@Michael-he1uj 2 года назад

have you plugged in and run the available aux port on your stock headunit?

@KiwiCarLife 2 года назад

I have not, I just use an FM transmitter

@Michael-he1uj 2 года назад

@@KiwiCarLife aux quality is so much better, there's a free port if you take that big compartment out. I'll find what its called on Amazon

@KiwiCarLife 2 года назад

@@Michael-he1uj thanks man, would be interested to get it installed but having Bluetooth to me is just convenient because I don't have to plug my phone in all the time...

@Michael-he1uj 2 года назад

@@KiwiCarLife not hard at all to do yourself, id say it's worth it atleast to me. Not that expensive either just to try it. Audio difference was night and day but I might've had a bad fm transmitter.

@user-uk4sw7wt7v Год назад

FD2 was sold in UK and any other countries? Not only Japan?

@KiwiCarLife Год назад

Type r wasn't. The only ones in the uk are japanese imports

@mohdsaifulhafeez8765 Год назад

Fd2 was sold in Japan & malaysia only

@meiji9720 2 года назад

7:29 Honda Civic gearboxes be like:

@KiwiCarLife 2 года назад

Haha yeah just my clutch delay valve being annoying

@pikachuflys321 Год назад

Put a dc5R oil pump on the k24 accord and watch it come to life

@KiwiCarLife Год назад

Yeah absolutely - it makes a big difference

@ucesaftf9383 2 года назад

PLEASE DO A VIDEO ON THE 2009 HONDA ACCORD 🔥

@KiwiCarLife 2 года назад

I've already done quite a few - search cl9 vs cu2 kiwicarlife it'll show up

@ucesaftf9383 2 года назад

@@KiwiCarLife watching it now bro!! Mean. I noticed youre a welly boy with your tests up the gorge and around jville haha ma man 👌🏼

@KiwiCarLife 2 года назад

@@ucesaftf9383 haha awesome man yeah Welly born and raised 🙌

@Hatsukemi 2 года назад

Honda one of best car manufacturer

@KiwiCarLife 2 года назад

Indeed

@HashDogg06 2 года назад

Was.

@mroneday3670 2 года назад

I got accord cf9 and accord type s k24

@KiwiCarLife 2 года назад

Lovely vehicles

@lindonandlisa8114 2 года назад

You lucky New Zealanders I don't know why so many of yous move to Australia no VTEC hear

@KiwiCarLife 2 года назад

True man. I'm happy here haha too hot in aus

@HashDogg06 2 года назад

Because we can get paid double (if not more) to do the same job in Australia & the living expenses are roughly the same so for some it's a no-brainer.