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@thequestion4818
@thequestion4818 2 года назад
"false factual allegations" Austin definently wrote this
@Jackson-pu7gd
@Jackson-pu7gd 2 года назад
Fellations?
@ObscuriaDragunAed
@ObscuriaDragunAed 2 года назад
Yeah, definitely.
@ObscuriaDragunAed
@ObscuriaDragunAed 2 года назад
@@Jackson-pu7gd lol
@kanimoody4090
@kanimoody4090 2 года назад
@@Kuchiakuchiakuchia HNEJKNE I LOVE YOU
@amateursleuth1195
@amateursleuth1195 2 года назад
Freudian slip by Austin. 😂
@SpencerCornelia
@SpencerCornelia 2 года назад
This looks different than all of the cease & desist letters I've received from actual lawyers. It's just a threat by the Ace Family.
@kevinwayne259
@kevinwayne259 2 года назад
yoooo we need a h3 x spencer collab!
@soysaucehairdye7869
@soysaucehairdye7869 2 года назад
That profile pic of Spencer always makes me laugh, because I imagine how much it gets under the skin of the scammers he exposes.
@LanaSpeaks
@LanaSpeaks 2 года назад
Love you spencer ❤️
@LanaSpeaks
@LanaSpeaks 2 года назад
@@soysaucehairdye7869 haha same
@emel-7928
@emel-7928 2 года назад
Sloan is an easy target, thats why the ace family went after him. Great to see Ethan extending legal help to sloan. Bet the ace family didnt see that one coming.
@TheMaakqueens
@TheMaakqueens 2 года назад
I really hope they see this video so they don’t further engage
@SlpBeauty333
@SlpBeauty333 2 года назад
Plus I keep saying that the Ace family might want to rethink this considering they've advertised their event as a "cross between Disneyland and Coachella". Using corporate names like that is serious shit and if anyone should be worried about lawsuits, it ain't Sloan. I'm quite sure if Disney and Coachella knew that family was using their names without permission, they would be shitting themselves. They can't pay for their house much less for Disney level corporate lawyers.
@stoneheart_raven
@stoneheart_raven 2 года назад
@@SlpBeauty333 I know of a time Disney sued a small business owner for using Micky on a sign for a kids event. like they will take you out no matter what.
@SlpBeauty333
@SlpBeauty333 2 года назад
@@stoneheart_raven Yep! My knitting group has a knitting competition during the Olympics? The IOC made us change the name from the "Ravelympics" because we were using part of the word "Olympics". Ravelry is the name of the website and it's common to change things like "Avatar" to "Ravatar", to include the website. The owners of the site got a cease and desist from the IOC and made us change the name. I mean that's so petty, especially since there's items for sale that benefit the Special Olympics. Can you imagine what Disney would do? The Ace family have no idea that they just kicked a hornet's give because this is going to bite them in the ass.
@Missconduct044
@Missconduct044 2 года назад
Didn’t Sloan defend a father who was making up abuse claims to alienate his kids mother? Only to have the father abduct the girl and disappear? Not defending the ace family, but Sloan isn’t innocent either.
@phoenixjewel3192
@phoenixjewel3192 2 года назад
I think it’s a scare tactic too. Creators like yourself will fight back and they probably realize that
@DavidKen878
@DavidKen878 2 года назад
I think it is too. I got one of these in an email years ago from a company that accused me of copyright infringement. They were just trying to scare me into paying them $7500
@ObscuriaDragunAed
@ObscuriaDragunAed 2 года назад
Agreed, which, I believe, would damage their actual chances at a lawsuit. It's pretty funny. I wonder if these false cease and desists would constitute harassment counter lawsuits or something similar?
@Force1Com
@Force1Com 2 года назад
dang this dude has aged amazingly fast in the last couple years
@SevenHunnid
@SevenHunnid 2 года назад
Screw college, that’s an L.. I review weed products on my RU-vid channel as my career👨‍💻
@ObscuriaDragunAed
@ObscuriaDragunAed 2 года назад
@@SevenHunnid I bequeath the hashtag of #DreamJob to thee.
@LilixoxoSkins
@LilixoxoSkins 2 года назад
All Sloan does is fight against child exploitation! He’s a good guy
@Evieventer
@Evieventer 2 года назад
And monetizes all the videos about it for his own personal gain. He literally just profits off child stars’ trauma lol.
@clintonharvey2384
@clintonharvey2384 2 года назад
@@Evieventer he’s gotta make a living too but the thing is he’s exposing it, who cares if he monetizes, he brings awareness and he’s a good guy
@Evieventer
@Evieventer 2 года назад
@@clintonharvey2384 bc obviously he didn’t start doing this to be a good guy he did it for the money lol. If he actually was just “bringing awareness” maybe he would donate some of his profits to help abused kids but he’s just making a whole career out of people’s trauma rn.
@horrorstitches
@horrorstitches 2 года назад
After he was nearly physically attacked last night I hope it wasn't them sending someone to scare him or worse.
@livingmorbid
@livingmorbid 2 года назад
where did u see this??
@simply_bree9363
@simply_bree9363 2 года назад
@@livingmorbid his channel
@VS-fo9py
@VS-fo9py 2 года назад
I wondered the same when I saw his video about the prowler
@missld6856
@missld6856 2 года назад
The ace family’s knows that H3 has better lawyers and that the ace family would easily lose any lawsuit from H3, they assume Sloan is a little more vulnerable and alone. Not to say that’s true but that’s what it seems
@josspa6558
@josspa6558 2 года назад
And any lawyer can see that they don't have a case..
@chiphargis2419
@chiphargis2419 2 года назад
He’s gonna need them after telling his followers to bomb a building.
@Jennzelnick
@Jennzelnick 2 года назад
What I found weird is that after this, Sloan was walking home late and someone was waiting outside of his house in a ski mask. He made a video about it…. This seems set up almost?
@han6061
@han6061 2 года назад
For real i mean did the acefamily sink that deep? He made video's about them for years tho
@Emmaw88
@Emmaw88 2 года назад
Second hand embarrassment with this ACE family…
@CassieBV
@CassieBV 2 года назад
That’s the first thing I said! This letter has to be fake because there is no way a real lawyer would write this 😂
@erikag7334
@erikag7334 2 года назад
Since you offered help to Sloan you gained a subscriber. Thank you!
@nikkydasilva1785
@nikkydasilva1785 2 года назад
I love Sloan. He is respectful and humble and he’s such a sweet person! 🤔 weird they went only for him.
@abomb420
@abomb420 2 года назад
Not weird at all drake bell already did the lawsuit angle with Sloan
@athenawar1958
@athenawar1958 2 года назад
He made a fake story about Kanye west .
@athenawar1958
@athenawar1958 2 года назад
@Annon_28 wym
@athenawar1958
@athenawar1958 2 года назад
@Annon_28 wym ?
@athenawar1958
@athenawar1958 2 года назад
@Annon_28 yes but it doesn’t mean it’s right .
@JordanbM83
@JordanbM83 2 года назад
First off Law Firms don’t send Cease-and-desist over Email. They send a Letter with the Law Firms Logo on it. Just like in English class, Lawyers have the Red Pen, and Mark up the Mistakes.
@guyrose2350
@guyrose2350 2 года назад
That’s not necessarily true, this email looks fake though, but they do send legal documents over email frequently in this day and age.
@trishamarie
@trishamarie 2 года назад
That isn’t true. Sloan actually states in his video that he gets cease and desist letters all the time over email. One time he got an email form of a cease and desist and then a week or two later received a physical copy.
@adrianjtarrant
@adrianjtarrant 2 года назад
100% sounds like Austin wrote this lol
@danielrichardson6054
@danielrichardson6054 2 года назад
Idk if ace family would ever admit ticket sales have slowed
@josspa6558
@josspa6558 2 года назад
But ofcourse ticket sales slows down after they tell they have sold out.. But ofcourse they need someone else to blame that for.. it can't have nothing to do with that they announced that they sold out...
@zenograham9211
@zenograham9211 2 года назад
Not publicly but I doubt they expected this to go public
@Markyajv
@Markyajv 2 года назад
Family! You missed one point that he was pointing out. In the wording of the cease and desist they called his channel "Sloa4n" and that's incorrect. His channel name is "Slo4n". He also posted a weird video at 4amish about a weird incident about that happened to him and he's crying and scared.
@Leah-wz3gt
@Leah-wz3gt 2 года назад
Literally just stared at how gorgeous Hila is this whole video I had to watch it twice
@Moltzenn
@Moltzenn 2 года назад
Cool 👍
@MohamedAli-gr3gf
@MohamedAli-gr3gf 2 года назад
She is absolutely gorgeous
@vabunajonsville4251
@vabunajonsville4251 2 года назад
@@WTFENIGMA opinions are a thing yknow
@Leah-wz3gt
@Leah-wz3gt 2 года назад
Those hating this comment (or Ethan/Hila) but still interacting with it is just 😂😂😂
@Leah-wz3gt
@Leah-wz3gt 2 года назад
@Chris Porter comparing the Kleins to the BOSTON BOMBERS?? Are you ok?
@RachelLotty
@RachelLotty 2 года назад
ethan and hila should house sloan to protect him. im honestly worried about his safety after his most recent video. dedicating your life to exposing rotten individuals puts a target on your back. i pray he stays safe.
@vabunajonsville4251
@vabunajonsville4251 2 года назад
wouldnt that be so wholesome omfg
@oliverxhmll
@oliverxhmll 2 года назад
I mean they can't save sloan from the dangers of LA. The guy was probably a wannabe robber, not a hit man hired by the ace family. LA isn't safe unless you live in a rich neighbourhood
@kcat4448
@kcat4448 2 года назад
They don't even know him tho... Imagine someone told u to house a complete stranger on the internet just because they have a nice online persona (this is coming from a fan of Sloan)
@blazaybla22
@blazaybla22 2 года назад
H3’s house doesn’t seem incredibly secure either like they have chode-tubers showing up and they had to make arrangements with the local PD due to swatting
@vabunajonsville4251
@vabunajonsville4251 2 года назад
@@kcat4448 thats what bothers you?? you do know people comment even crazier shit right lmfao
@solomom3640
@solomom3640 2 года назад
Sloan is awesome!!! Such a good heart!!
@missld6856
@missld6856 2 года назад
I know I’m so sad for Sloan right now that he’s scared at his living situation if you watched his latest video
@lavalampluva55401
@lavalampluva55401 2 года назад
I think the letter was written by the ACE Family. Just the wording seems sketchy. Typically an official legal letter would not keep listing ACE Family over and over. Also the letter lists SLOA4N instead of his RU-vid name SLO4N. A real lawyer would not make such a rookie mistake. This is purely a scare tactic. There are at least 4 different You Tube channels which have been saying the exact same thing.
@jojoenerez4815
@jojoenerez4815 2 года назад
Guys? What happened to the Welcome Back Olivia episode?
@noeisnothere
@noeisnothere 2 года назад
RU-vid removed it because of harassment content and threats towards the NRA
@vabunajonsville4251
@vabunajonsville4251 2 года назад
i only watch sloan and h3h3. after sloan mentioned you guys in his last ace family video i kept thinking to myself how AMAZING it would be if yall talked about eachother. im literally floating right know.
@lucyg3765
@lucyg3765 2 года назад
Sloan reacted to this video too🤣🤣
@tnwodisciple42069
@tnwodisciple42069 2 года назад
you should upload the bomb threat clip on the highlight channel
@mrduke2118
@mrduke2118 2 года назад
#leaveSLOANalone
@alanl9497
@alanl9497 2 года назад
I hope they re-upload this episode. I didn’t get a chance to finish it.
@poppy1990
@poppy1990 2 года назад
Do you know why it was removed?
@poppy1990
@poppy1990 2 года назад
@Chris Porter oh dear. Thanks for the info
@poppy1990
@poppy1990 2 года назад
@Chris Porter oh dear. Thanks for the info
@ariseira_
@ariseira_ 2 года назад
Same :( I wanted to see the Olivia part
@alanl9497
@alanl9497 2 года назад
@@ariseira_ ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-NcHWbf1UU5s.html
@XiomaraThaGoddessMeow
@XiomaraThaGoddessMeow 2 года назад
Idk why the "small RU-vidr" part bothers me... Lol I wouldn't say they're small... They have over 600k subs 🤣
@Jessica-uc9bk
@Jessica-uc9bk 2 года назад
quick question i love accepting other people for who they are and their pronouns is sloan a they and them or he and him i just want to know cause i was gonna comment something about sloan and i would hate to get the pronouns wrong
@han6061
@han6061 2 года назад
I mean for an english speaking channel in 2022 is normal i would say,
@joshclemens28
@joshclemens28 2 года назад
God damn… Stopped bye just to admire how good Hila is looking 🔥
@GM_U2ube
@GM_U2ube 2 года назад
I was looking for a comment like this😂 she was glowing✨
@slightlyskywalking2195
@slightlyskywalking2195 2 года назад
Where's the cease and desist for having multiple hairlines?
@annacampion6801
@annacampion6801 2 года назад
Is the full ep going to be reuploaded :\ I missed it
@s-1424
@s-1424 2 года назад
I have been following Sloan for a while! The fuppa trupas should all go follow him!
@bengonzales9978
@bengonzales9978 2 года назад
Nah, not when there’s the superior Def Noodles
@s-1424
@s-1424 2 года назад
@@bengonzales9978 why not both?
@candlejenner5558
@candlejenner5558 2 года назад
@@bengonzales9978 they dont even really make the same content
@DisappointingPorn
@DisappointingPorn 2 года назад
Mr. Hooks looks for all the world like a younger, more enthusiastic Joaquin Phoenix
@hannahmacinnis3688
@hannahmacinnis3688 2 года назад
Best crossover ever 🤌 Love you guys and Sloan.
@jewel8385
@jewel8385 2 года назад
I love Sloan, he just tries to save children and expose evil! He doesn’t deserve this!
@Theresa9
@Theresa9 2 года назад
Can you please upload the rest of the clips from the episode I wasn’t able to watch it when it came out
@hi-d12forlife
@hi-d12forlife 2 года назад
Ethan and the whole H3 crew, thank you for highlighting this BS and coming to Sloan's defense! I watched Sloan's video in response to your video defending him first, and I was so proud and pleased that I not only support Sloan, but H3 and the whole crew as well. You all doing amazing work and the good ones (you guys, Sloan, Madcatster and other YTubers who expose this sick family) stick together and support one another and I'm so h3re for it.
@danielvaldez5275
@danielvaldez5275 2 года назад
Where is the full episode someone?help
@hannahrhcp
@hannahrhcp 2 года назад
Please help Sloan!! He is a good person and I love his videos, he is very fair!
@kayla2915
@kayla2915 2 года назад
Did they take down this video?? I can’t find it on there page anymore an they missed todays ep.
@TheDarkPope
@TheDarkPope 2 года назад
No lawyer wrote that letter. Ceaseless does not make sense there and the factual part is wrong as well. No reputable lawyer sent that.
@stang10189
@stang10189 2 года назад
Just call the contact info one the letter. Or lookup the attorney to see if it's real.
@jontee4free
@jontee4free 2 года назад
I do not think a serious set of lawyers would call themselves a counsel. I've never seen paper work from this kind of court case, but I have never seen a lawyer call themselves counselors. They usually call other lawyers counselors in order to point out the lack of real power another lawyer actually has
@fuzzjunky
@fuzzjunky 2 года назад
It might be some form of arbitration, to squeeze a settlement
@annaalinablogs
@annaalinablogs 2 года назад
please uploud more videos of this episode as many of us didn't watch yet
@jamessdavis5201
@jamessdavis5201 2 года назад
You crossed the line pal. GAME OVER
@candlejenner5558
@candlejenner5558 2 года назад
Did this episode get deleted?
@SmexiiWade
@SmexiiWade 2 года назад
I came to ask the same thing. :/ Looks like it.
@Hunter_Brandon
@Hunter_Brandon 2 года назад
Facts
@Toadhmg
@Toadhmg 2 года назад
Just wondering can anyone else not find the episode this is from ? the link to the video is still active so I’m not sure what’s up ??
@han6061
@han6061 2 года назад
RU-vid took it down
@Belle_welds
@Belle_welds 2 года назад
Why cannot see the podcast?
@snowhabibi6928
@snowhabibi6928 2 года назад
Hila got me with " well now we all know that" learn something new every day huh haha
@akiray1999
@akiray1999 2 года назад
of course they are
@j3in725
@j3in725 2 года назад
Sooo why isn't the after dark on the podcast channel?
@williamrobinson6377
@williamrobinson6377 2 года назад
The MadCatster has great videos covering the Ace family
@nate9047
@nate9047 2 года назад
Fuck dude what got the episode pulled :(
@Hunter_Brandon
@Hunter_Brandon 2 года назад
Him telling people to bomb the NRA
@irenets1738
@irenets1738 2 года назад
I was trying to find the episode and couldn’t !
@Reula1991
@Reula1991 2 года назад
The comment about the NRA I think.
@CaptainClappinCheeks
@CaptainClappinCheeks 2 года назад
If they have a phone number I’d call it and ask if the cease and desist was legit
@SHALALATELOVER
@SHALALATELOVER 2 года назад
I don't watch you guys as much as I used to mostly cause I been busy but I still put you on at night to make sure you still get the view! Lol most the time I fall asleep but ❤️ you guys and love sloan too that j you for speaking out on this!
@qk7x
@qk7x 2 года назад
He called for the bombing of the NRA
@jomama7022
@jomama7022 2 года назад
Already saw this video on Sloan's video. He wants your lawyer's input.
@muscleman125
@muscleman125 2 года назад
Yet again RU-vidrs coming through with the weakest lawsuit known to man. What the fuck are they thinking they are gonna get out of this? Even if they were to somehow win this non-suit, what do they expect to receive in compensation from him? He doesn't look like he has the kind of money to be worth a year plus in court and tens of thousands in lawyer fees.
@cassidybarnett4433
@cassidybarnett4433 2 года назад
WAIT DID THIS EP get fucking taken down
@luke-dl8tk
@luke-dl8tk 2 года назад
is double spacing a weird detail? That's liek standard MLA APA format
@luke-dl8tk
@luke-dl8tk 2 года назад
@Katia yea, I've been doing that since 3rd grade all the way up to doing my final paper for my 4 year degree.
@Adaawo
@Adaawo 2 года назад
Come back guys 😭
@elliexc
@elliexc 2 года назад
When you have notice that a lawsuit may be filed, you do have to preserve the evidence regarding the potential case though the letter is really sus....i doubt a real lawyer sent that. -source: I am a (waiting to be barred) lawyer
@bridgetwhite2112
@bridgetwhite2112 2 года назад
Newly minted JD here. To me, the letter reads like a bad lawyer wrote it. There's stuff in it that I don't think a nonlawyer would include that their legal writing professor probably taught them. But it is definitely bad work.
@Mushruums
@Mushruums 2 года назад
They can’t even afford to sue him right now. Maybe after Ace Fest they will have enough if they don’t pay off the other money they owe
@lyndza1989
@lyndza1989 2 года назад
they were front row at the idubbz fight lol.. those tickets arent cheap either.. theyre a joke
@DavidKen878
@DavidKen878 2 года назад
Catherine just bought Austin a $350k Rolls Royce. They can definitely afford it.
@Mushruums
@Mushruums 2 года назад
@@lyndza1989 literally every video I see about them they talk about them being broke and in debt. Do they actually have money?
@Ochtone
@Ochtone 2 года назад
Are you going to upload the highlight where you talk about what people should do to the NRA building?
@MordorStroller
@MordorStroller 2 года назад
Double space after period is just technically correct grammar. It's not specific to anything legal.
@VeraImmin
@VeraImmin 2 года назад
Watching the highlights as the original video is taken down 🥲
@patty8991
@patty8991 2 года назад
I think Ace Family is using Uncle Ed for their lawyer.
@James-wn9qc
@James-wn9qc 2 года назад
Reupload the full pod!!!
@Lemonloafff
@Lemonloafff 2 года назад
Message Sloan back please 😂
@raistlinmajere7149
@raistlinmajere7149 2 года назад
Wait until there's a class action lawsuit against them for scamming their fans. They came on a false pretense that Ace Fest is going to be its own private event. Not a sponsor to a event that already exists.
@JussSarah5420
@JussSarah5420 2 года назад
Hila is so beautiful 🥺🖤
@kcat4448
@kcat4448 2 года назад
Honestly I don't even think it was Austin or Catherine that sent that. It was probably one of their deranged fans. Either way it's definitely not a real cease & desist
@alexisc9386
@alexisc9386 2 года назад
It sounds like Austin wrote this himself and made a fake gmail account
@lepkember6913
@lepkember6913 2 года назад
Im no expert on law and shit like this, but could this be like a slapp lawsuite? Like Ace are aware that they cant win, but maybe they still try to scare him or tire him with a long, stressy, expensive lawsuit.
@duskwalker6817
@duskwalker6817 2 года назад
So glad RU-vid finally gave you the same treatment as everyone else!
@FeralFennecFox
@FeralFennecFox 2 года назад
He's had bans before are you new?
@rebexxa9038
@rebexxa9038 2 года назад
Something like this could be avoided in the future by saying and titling things like “appears to be a scam” appears is simply an observation, not an accusation!
@hoodpope1851
@hoodpope1851 2 года назад
yeah idk if i'd say 700k subs is small. That probably puts you at like top .1% of youtuber lmao
@han6061
@han6061 2 года назад
Naah their so manny yt channels with millions of subs that we don't even know about
@hoodpope1851
@hoodpope1851 2 года назад
@@han6061 and for each one of those, there are millions of youtube channels with less than 50 subs lmao.
@rubiorocks
@rubiorocks Год назад
Sloan is the nicest. They put the ACE in DISGRACE
@JiveJalapeno
@JiveJalapeno 2 года назад
Who here after the ep was taken down? lol
@bsummers1386
@bsummers1386 2 года назад
Omg so it was taken down!!! I could t find the ep anywhere
@ionia2376
@ionia2376 2 года назад
It makes sense that the Ace family and Triller lawyers are rubbish if they're letting them bring such ridiculous cases. All the good lawyers probably told them they had no case.
@cheekys.o.b804
@cheekys.o.b804 2 года назад
Just finished my fbi report on Ethan saying he wanted someone to bomb the NRA CONFERENCE.
@TheHarrelsons-
@TheHarrelsons- 2 года назад
Love you guys ❤
@joejjj4378
@joejjj4378 2 года назад
since when is 600k+ a small youtuber
@dpellek74
@dpellek74 2 года назад
Its a fake email lol. The lawyer part I meant
@nelm7526
@nelm7526 2 года назад
“false factual allegations”😂🤦🏽‍♀️
@catherinecampbell1215
@catherinecampbell1215 2 года назад
This is a scam. I have an English degree and some of the word choices in this statement make no sense. Spoliation? Why don’t they just say spoiled or spoiling? People that use too many fancy words to try to get their point across are covering up for the fact that they don’t have a point at all.
@timothy.covert
@timothy.covert 2 года назад
this is obviously fake wtf
@woblerwhablo3161
@woblerwhablo3161 2 года назад
Ace fest' = Aids test. I think staying away's best.
@itsbubbles4021
@itsbubbles4021 2 года назад
They wrote it themselves
@njd4291
@njd4291 2 года назад
Hila is gorgeous in this highlight. Beautiful
@jordanjohnson8011
@jordanjohnson8011 2 года назад
Red Dead Redemption!!!!
@the4rtistandtheproduc3r
@the4rtistandtheproduc3r 2 года назад
Ethan: i wonder if they sent one of these to me too and i just don't check my email. 😂 😂 😂
@KennKennX3
@KennKennX3 2 года назад
Love Slo4n
@missmewness
@missmewness 2 года назад
hmm, very similar to threats I've gotten in email from someone before just for flirting too much 👀 still not over that... I must be really unattractive or something.
@salteadog33
@salteadog33 2 года назад
Keeping Evidence: does that mean ACE fam is planning going hack his accounts and seeing what he knows?
@jordanjohnson8011
@jordanjohnson8011 2 года назад
Truck vs truck
@Jackson-pu7gd
@Jackson-pu7gd 2 года назад
Olivia is so beautiful!
@fawadfawadi4211
@fawadfawadi4211 2 года назад
Sue the person who exposes your crime. Its wrong but logical, by sueing they make him pay lawyers This is an example im not saying anyone did a crime
@halasil12
@halasil12 2 года назад
Way he made 70+ videos he probably wrote that himself or some random troll
@fawadfawadi4211
@fawadfawadi4211 2 года назад
2:02 byrokratia
@UndergroundVibes559
@UndergroundVibes559 2 года назад
My boyfriend SLOAN? Omg
@sergiovillasenor1455
@sergiovillasenor1455 2 года назад
Over an email???? Is that normal??? The ghetto
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