Acid Start Up for White & Colored Plaster Pools Step by Step - Part one of two

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In this video I show you how to do an Acid Start Up on a newly plastered pool. This pool is a dark blue quartz colored plaster. I am using the Acid Start Up by United Chemical. This method is becoming more common and I use whatever method the plasterer wants.
The Acid Start Up is not without critics and some still feel the traditional start up is better. Here is a link that opposes the Acid Start Up procedure:
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There are a number of things this article points out and it is valid to note that the Acid Start Up needs to be done correctly. You do not want the pH dropping below 4.8 which will cause damage. How likely is that to happen? Not very. In this to pool to drop the pH to 4.7 it would take 10 gallons of acid - double of what I put in (TA of 150 to start).
I suggest going to: thepoolcalculator.com/ and plugging in your numbers before you begin.
I put in 13,500 gallons -
pH 8.4- 5.4 - as my goal
TA 150
Calcium Harness & Temperature didn't matter in this equation.
So by adding 5.5 gallons of acid I zeroed out the TA and still was way above the danger level of a pH 4.8.
So the steps here are laid out for you in this video and it relatively simple to do correctly.
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@elconquistador9921 6 лет назад

Don't keep the equipment off that first week. Run it 24/7. As the plaster dust is forming, it's good for it to be brushed off and the water to be filtered. Have a bypass on the heater. Check pH twice a week. I've been in the plaster business for 22 years. There are many more things to consider during the start-up. This is just the must basic to achieve the best results.

@TheDRegie 7 лет назад

I really appreciate your videos. I wish more of my customers would listen when I tell them not to run the pool for the start up and the importance of brushing! All of your videos are very well done and great information. I try to pass along your videos often. Thanks again.

@culator1 7 лет назад

Great video! When you are starting up a pool, when you add a sequestering agent, make sure you also add a CuLator Ultra 4.0 into the pump or skimmer basket. That way any metals that are sequestered will be eliminated by the CuLator. I recommend using the Ultra on every pool start up just as an "insurance" against metal pool stains.

@JamesHelms82 Год назад

Thank you for this video. I came here because we are going through the startup phase and it doesn’t appear that our acid wash, and startup went anyway like this.

@gamecube142001 2 года назад

Agree with everything except leaving equipment off. I used start up service and once they started they recommended running 24/7 pool equipment for first 7 to 10ndays

@greatjuankenobi217 6 лет назад

Wow. Amazing pool. Thanks 🙏

@Heysahs007 10 лет назад

Awesome video. You are masterful in your profession.

@Kbm42299 6 лет назад

Getting my pool replasterd this Thursday. About 25k gallons. Going to use this method. Wish me luck. Been following you for a while man. Thank you.

@SPL 6 лет назад

It should be fine. Just follow the process and the plaster will turn out good. The plasterer should have a dedicated start up guy for you.

@Kbm42299 6 лет назад

Swimming Pool Tips, Reviews & How To -MrDgvb1 nah they just gave me start up instructions. Ill keep ya posted.

@bernierocha2567 3 года назад

@@Kbm42299 How did it turn out? I just finished replastering my pool Sunday and have been brushing twice a day and added acid. How long before all the white residue gets removed from the walls?

@0rangevale 8 лет назад

My pool is about full, I'm getting ready to restart but haven't figured out how to make just the bottom to suction.

@bluemindpools405 Год назад

Thanks for all of the great info and content! I am using this start up method. And today , day 3, i notice what looks like white spots? Not aure if this is calcium? Streaks from brushing? Anyways, any idea as to what it could be and suggestions? Thanks !! #diamondbrite

@DavidAllen-ct6ut 8 лет назад

What about the pebbletech do you thing the same method would be good?

@mannye4798 8 лет назад

very nice video. I have a question. I usually have the filter on 24/7 when I do the 4-5 days acid start up. I know on your video u said to keep pump off. Does this process work better? And if so ,when is it safe to turn on the filter. Thank u

@SPL 8 лет назад

+Manuel espinoza You don't want to run the equipment until the pH is above 6.8 or you risk damaging the equipment or plaster in an acid start-up. This will cause the metal in the heater to bleed into the pool. Usually after day 2 all the dust is gone so you can start raising the pH. In a traditional Start-up or Bicarb start up you can turn the pool on right away. Ignore the comment from RU-vidr as he doesn't know what he is talking about. In an acid start up you don't need to run the pool while the plaster cures for 48 hours. After you bring the pH up run it is much as possible.

@jasonl3404 2 года назад

My start up involves bringing calcium to 200 ppm plus on first day. Keeping PH7.4-7.6 TA 80-100. Brush vac everyday for the first 5-7 days. Brush nylon and skim, run pump all day. What’s your thought on that ? And of course adding some sort of preventative, biodex, startuptec or magic jac

@SPL 2 года назад

Sounds a little like the Orenda Start Up. That method is very effective.

@marksinsp 7 лет назад

I just finished getting my pool redone with a stonescape mini pebble finish. I just finished filling the pool last night, which is about 15,000 gallons. They told me to add 2 gallons of acid for the startup. I'm in So Cal. You recommend a lot more acid, so I added 3 gallons. Do I need to add more? Just added the acid this morning. Should I also add the sequestering agent today?

@studenheim8388 3 года назад

Listen to your pool builder!

@cristianstriblea792 6 месяцев назад

Is it safe to plaster a pool when outside the temperature is in the low 40 F ? Will the plaster set fine ? Should I wait for wormer temp ?

@MrGshadow13 3 года назад

Anybody here for the comments too 🤗.

@carlosperez-pq2xu 5 лет назад

David, good afternoon. They made a plaster similar to this with the same color. leave the chemicals at their proper levels, after a month. The bottom part was white, how to solve them. Thank you.

@SPL 5 лет назад

Not exactly sure what it could be. Would need to see pictures of it.

@TheGreenTennis 5 лет назад

With acid startup, is it preferred to bypass the heater? For startup methods that recommend bypassing the heater, what is the preferred method for the bypass? For example, temporary re-plumbing, re-plumbing with bypass values etc? Thanks a bunch

@SPL 5 лет назад

Just leave the pool off until you are ready to raise the pH and Alkalinity up. No need to run the pool during the Acid Start Up process.

@prizerebelfree 7 лет назад

Hi I close to finish to build my swimming pool how much costs to acid star-up

@franciscocuza1535 7 лет назад

thanks for the info!! why NOT shock the pool for the 1st 30 days?

@SPL 7 лет назад

High chlorine levels came damage the plaster while it cures.

@mannye4798 8 лет назад

btw it's for a diamond brite pool plaster.

@reelnative01 4 года назад

Never seen anything like that in Florida they get a few guys in the pool a day after the plaster job with respirators on and straight acid and sponge it down suck that out and then fill it with water and your ready to go in a week

@SPL 4 года назад

Interesting method!

@bernierocha2567 3 года назад

I replastered my pool almost 4 weeks ago and the pool service did a traditional start up and I still have plaster dust in the plaster. Can I do the acid start up method now to remove the remaining dust? My pool is about 22,000 gallons.

@SPL 3 года назад

Try adding 1 bottle of a product called Beautec to the pool and brush it a little more aggressively. I suggest this brush: SweepEase 654367706282-SS/Combo-18 Stingray SS/PolyPool Brush. After 2 weeks of brushing the surface everyday you should see some improvement. It is too late to go back and do the acid start up now.

@bernierocha2567 3 года назад

@@SPL Thank You. I ordered both products today.

@hperez6266 4 года назад

While it's off four to five days is there any brushing needed?

@SPL 4 года назад

Off for 2 days total and yes, lots of brushing even with pool off.

@thedreamsoldierful 4 года назад

Do you add salt even if it doesn't have a salt generator? Mine is also 13,500 gal & I'm wondering how much to add?

@SPL 4 года назад

Need a Saltwater generator installed.

@bernierocha2567 3 года назад

I plastered my pool Sunday and finished filling it Monday. I have been scrubbing twice a day and wanted to know how long before the white haze comes off the plaster. It’s not all over the pool, just some parts.

@SPL 3 года назад

If you add a bottle of CuLator Super Start Up that may help with the white scaling.

@bernierocha2567 3 года назад

Thank You. I’ll give it a try

@bernierocha2567 3 года назад

I had used Leslie’s Stain & Scale Prevent the first day but haven’t seen much change

@armystrongbone 3 года назад

You can speed it up using a stick of 2inch pvc like a straw over the white haze. Hold it about a foot over the area in the water and pour a little acid down the pvc pipe. About 12oz per spot. You can slowly move the pvc in a circle while raising/pulling the pipe out of the water about a foot or two. The acid then falls/drops out off the pvc over the plaster white hazy cement and lands right on it in a uniform mushroom cloud. Acid has a specific gravity of 15, its heavier than water. You can see the acid fan across the floor. let it sit there and you can watch the white burn off in seconds. then brush the acid gently away so you don't over expose one area. while the pool is off!!! Or you can add more acid and run the pool if you do not have a heater. thats less risky because it will burn off more even... I can do 5 or six pools a week, color or not, safely buy running the pool after day one. Google a Hot Start Up. There are classes on these start ups by the plaster venders. I've never been to one who had anything bad to say about starting the pool during this process unless it has a heater, or there are jets on the steps, benches etc where that direct flow from them would over expose around the jets and leave a darker color around them. Remember the pool tells you how much acid to use and how long to leave the acid sitting directly on the surface. After about a min or two the acid is used up in a way. Its still eating layers off but doing so in a much slower manner.

@armystrongbone 3 года назад

What i mean is the acid is used up and no longer burning the cement or stain off. (The ACID!) After that only the low water PH is cooking the plaster at a much slower rate. drip a few drops on a spot of cement, or lime/sand stone. I will turn yellow and bubble for about two minutes then not longer eats the rock. And remember, stain removers, everything you add to the water has a PH. A high or a low. The two in this video are high in PH. Thats why he added those first. then the acid.

@CinderellaCrwc650 3 года назад

Does anyone have any suggestions on how to tether a floating chlorinator so it will stay in the middle of the pool and won't be able to float near any of the walls or steps? I just had my pool redone and we will like to keep our blue plaster looking good.

@SPL 3 года назад

Would suggest an in-line Rainbow 300 chlorinator for sure.

@dylanforse303 2 года назад

Working on a quartz startup followed the normal npc startup. Still have some dust 28 days into it and some variation in color. Should I try an acid bath this far into it?

@SPL 2 года назад

You can try 2 bottles of EasyCare Beautec to see if that helps at this point.

@dylanforse303 2 года назад

@@SPL I also noticed you didn’t use submersible pumps in your acid bath. Is diluting it and brushing it good enough? Everyone is telling me I need to have multiple submersible pumps in the pool if I’m going to do an acid bath.

@SPL 2 года назад

@@dylanforse303 No need really but you can hang one with ropes on the water surface.

@hectorarias5034 2 года назад

I just had my pool replaster and I would like to contact you willing to pay a fee for your advice on how to guide me with all of this I live in Las Vegas thanks and have a great day.

@SPL 2 года назад

I don't current have a service available like this but let me know what area in Vegas you are in and I know a few local pool guys that would stop by to help you with a start up

@BigTruck 4 года назад

how long do you have to wait to swim in it after this?

@rubenscott3972 3 года назад

2 or 3 weeks

@DiSVINCENNES 7 лет назад

wow nice :))

@jmattos 2 года назад

Dumb question. If you dont turn on the pool filter.. where is the dust going? Are you just letting it settle to the bottom?

@SPL 2 года назад

The acid "eats" up all the dust.

@jameswalker5409 2 года назад

Just got my chip out done. Waiting for the plastering job. Learning lots here so I can some what follow the process. Thanks for the start up info. Gonna purchase your guide it looks like. 10K play pool and 600 gallon spa.

@TonyPanama Год назад

Not a dumb question.

@Heavens-Humanaterian-Army 3 года назад

Why anyone would have a plain plaster pool is just crazy...allways add pebbles glass beads or tiles...it makes your investment well worth it...easier to maintain lastes way way longer and looks so much better...and comfy on your feet.

@carlosperez-pq2xu 5 лет назад

They told me it's tartar, other poolman the plaster is new. I could not send you photos by this means. but I'm worried about how to remove it.

@SPL 5 лет назад

Send them to my email: david@swimmingpoollearning.com

@Bitcoin-Busa Год назад

Where did the plaster dust go for the first 4 days of brushing if pump is not running to filtrate it away?

@SPL Год назад

The acid destroys the dust.

@Bitcoin-Busa Год назад

@@SPL What does it mean “destroys”? Concrete plaster dust doesn’t evaporate out of the pool into thin air obviously. Plaster dust either fallls down to the bottom or is filtered away and then filter is washed to get rid of it. Plaster dust doesn’t disappear to nowhere.

@84agc 6 лет назад

Do we want to add calcium at this point, if it's a little low?

@SPL 6 лет назад

how low is the reading?

@jesseescudero4104 7 месяцев назад

When do you add calcium when you do your hot start ups?

@SPL 7 месяцев назад

Usually after the 1 week with pool running.

@prizerebelfree 7 лет назад

I live on california

@Heavens-Humanaterian-Army 3 года назад

Iv never seen a pool that can't be usded pritty fast...and most have very clear water if the plasters did a good job...so I'm a bit consernded about the quality of this job...what's with the lack of pebbles or glass beads they give the pool 4 times more life than plaster...so it ends up costing the same if not saving money long term...if your going to do a pool do it as best as possible.

@greghackney8437 3 года назад

Can't get any customers to go for the beads and pebbles, most of them think plaster is too rough.

@Xhalegaming Год назад

how much for pebble 109 linear sqft

@SPL Год назад

It's very expensive now. Shockingly.

@Xhalegaming Год назад

@@SPL Was curious i just paid 8500 for white plain quartz and new water line tile

@austinm3734 8 лет назад

How Much Would A Colored Plaster Pool Cost To Replaster (8500 Gallons)????

@SPL 8 лет назад

Depends on the area. Cheaper in Ca. & Florida - more expensive in Mid-West and East Coast. I would say about $5000 here in Ca.

@billydanzz 7 лет назад

Trying to get an idea of cost....what would a 35,000 gal pool cost to replaster in Ca? Any recommendations for replastering companies in my city (Phoenix, AZ???) By the way, your awesome videos have saved me some serious headache and money...and because of that I sent you a donation a while back. This week I had a problem with my spa not maintaining the water level. I googled the problem, your video came up, I watched it.....an hour after that, I had the new check valve installed. I will again be donating to your site! THANK YOU!!!!