I just started on my PPL, the money was a driving factor for sure, but once I got into an airplane behind the controls, all that went away. Now I can't believe I'll be getting paid to do this for work.
I am excited for you. I look forward to hearing about your progress in your flying career. Remember to take one step every day toward your aviation career goal!
I went to my first visit at a school were the guy told me for a private pilot license its 1.5 or 2 years and about 26k just for that. Then to be a airline pilot it takes about 10 years and got discouraged but might be the place I checked out. Also feel iffy who to go with its my life that will be at risk and would want to learn right
That was great !! Im an airline pilot here in Brazil. Today I Fly as a A320 First officer and Im about to get my promotion to Captain .I began my flights to get the certifications in 2010, and It wass a good time for aviation, however During my time as a flight instructor we have a down time on aviation , but I Kept working hard and preparing myself . Today I have 8 and a half years of experience as an airline pilot. And Now I thinking to get a FAA license , I Wil do It slowly and prepare myself for one Future opportunity that may show UP !! For those who want to be a pilot , take your time . And you até gonna get there. Good Luck everybody !!!
Valeu pelo comentário. Nossa 8 anos para ser promovido a comandante? Iniciei o curso e estou na fase pré solo em Houston. Espero chegar nas linhas aéreas em 3 anos.
Did you sponsor yourself in the aviation school? Damn, am a Kenyan student currently pursuing Bsc Nursing but not happy having missed the opportunity to study in aviation school 😢
I always told my kids, 1 will go to Aviation, that my wishes for them is to 1-find a career that you never say “I have to go to work”, but say “I can’t believe I ‘GET TO DO THIS, and they pay me!”. 2- Never call Wednesday ‘hump-day’. 3-That they whistle while they work! I told them if their career doesn’t check those 3 boxes to get out and find something else that does. Life is too short.
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FlynJ whaaa ?!!! Cmon.. honest ? Well how come yur not in got into a regional wayy back when u hit 1500 TT ? my 1st Q. did u have any probs in yur fly career ? are u being picky where who u fly for ? why nut just get a twin prop cargo or pax smaller av company first? Where r u ?
Question: I'm a father doing research for my Loadmaster daughter in the AF. She wants to use the GI Bill for Part 141. She is almost done with her AA (2 yr school) and start her PPL at a local airport. I think going for a collage or University/flight training to get a R-ATP 1000 hours would be good. What do you recommend for a Legacy to build time after and during school. What is proficient way to do it>? Peace
I'm doing massive research trying to decide whether or not it's worth the massive investment in time and money. The two things I keep hearing is once you get your certificate to CFI, it's almost impossible to get to regional, and even more difficult to pave a way to the airlines. Not to be pessimistic but it doesn't seem realistic for the average guy. And to keep hearing the "well just keep going" phrase is coming from those with DEEP POCKETS.
its not legal to go to a regional after you get your cfi…. you have to build time, thats why you get your CFI. If it were possible to just go to an airline, no one would become a CFI. You need to better educate. Also very few doing this have “deep pockets”, we are all struggling to achieve something that will pay off down the road.
@@youtubeyerr yup major airline require 1500 flight hours just to be eligible. 1000 hours if you went to a university. I think first officer is like 500 flight hours, 50 hours multi engine.
@@392chop8yup takes a very long time and deep pockets i tried and coming from a orphan background no parents to co sign anything this dream became impossible even with a cushy career in IT and no kids to try to get it done but its a far dream to achieve with the amount of money its required
I am honestly heard broker to hear that you think this way. So you grew up fighting to survive and now that you’re an adult, you forgot how? What would 16 year old you say to your current self. No doubt you’d be disappointed. Remember what you had dreams and aspirations? Remember when people told you that you couldn’t and you did just to show them you could? What happened? Did you get too comfortable? Stop being lazy! You’re really going to let MONEY get in your way? No sir. That’s an excuse. Make a decision, make a plan, set a heading, and fly into the horizon. Literally… The sky is the limit and I sincerely hope that you reach yours.
QUESTION: Given the ~2years to get to 1500 hours; Do you think there will still be significant demand for people that start their pilot journey TODAY to get hired?
It is hard to predict the hiring environment when you get your hours but from a long term career perspective I feel there will be a demand for pilots for decades to come.
Everyone talks about this pilot shortage, 32 000 pilots are required a year, but CAE flight school alone has 135 000 graduates a year, this tells me a large percentage of students won't land a job as a pilot
Is there a big difference between going to aviation school vs flight school at the local airport? My local tech college offers a pilot program that my GI bill will pay for, so I'm thinking of going that route.
Many aviation schools that are have approved programs will enable you to obtain a restricted ATP, enabling you to get hired by a part 121 airline with less hours. The GI bill is a great opportunity to reduce your cost of training. If you want to discuss further please feel free to reach out to me at: www.aviationcareerspodcast.com/coaching/
how hard is to xfr upgrade a LSA license to PPL ? what u gotta do?... just take another PPL oral? written? and practical check ride for the ppl ? even tho u might have like 100+ hrs as LSA pilot. How's it work ? is it worth getting LSA or just get ppl first only ?
Sir. I have a question. Why do you think airlines are now able to pay pilots so much better than say 15 years ago while like you said, customers are paying less? I'm a 46 year old trucker with a PPL. Trucker pay is not even close to keeping up with inflation. I'm seriously thinking about going for a pro pilot career. I must say I'm a little worried about not being able to absorb everything I need to be an airline pilot. It's a lot of responsibility. I watch a fair amount of air accident videos and never want one to be made about me I think you gave some good info in this video, which I know is geared toward people who are younger than me.
Thanks for the question. Since more people can afford to purchase an airline ticket revenue is increasing thus driving higher profits at airlines. Demand for pilots has increased due to this growth and is one of the reasons pilot salaries have increased. There are other contributing factors increasing profits such as higher density aircraft which are more fuel efficient. These are only a few of the reasons and I probably should do a video on this subject. This video was made for all ages. As a matter of fact many of my clients in my career coaching services are your age. As with anything new it takes time to gain the knowledge and acquire the skills to become a professional. I know you can do it if you persist! I am always available for a coaching session by visiting www.aviationcareerspodcast.com/coaching/. Safe flying!
Hello there Sir, I have a question about ways of funding the school/hours to become a commercial pilot. Would you suggest to get your schooling and accumulating your flight hours by entering the military? From my very light research, the obligation when you get your training and getting your flight hours from the military is to work in the military for 10 years. You mentioned that it takes between 5-10 years to become an airline pilot, about the same amount of time of obligation in working as a pilot in the military. What is your take about this route to get your pilot license?
You will get awsome training in the millitary and will get paid for it. The downside is you can't leave for 10 years and you may be forced to do something immoral, like end the lives of innocent people that are no threat to national security.
Everyone seems to ignore the fact that the airlines are currently flying smaller narrow body aircraft domestically then they did a few decades ago. These smaller aircraft carry far less passengers than wide body aircraft, requiring more aircraft (more pilots) to fly the airline's system schedule. In the 1970's airlines were flying DC-10s, A300s, L-1011s and 747 on U.S. domestic routes. After 9/11, airlines retired their domestic wide-body fleets in favor of RJs, MD-88s, 717, A320s and A220s. Airlines need to switch back to flying widebodies on domestic U.S. flights. Larger aircraft fly MORE PEOPLE with LESS PILOTS. Problem solved.
I wish it was such a simple solution. There is a great article written by the Regional Airline Associate discussing why the regionals exist and why they are an important component of the air transportation system. Here is link to the article: www.raa.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/02/1Q23-Small-Community-Air-Service-Deck-Final.pdf
@AviationCareersPodcast Sure. I understand the position of the RAA. My point is that flying widebody airliners domestically like we used to do 20+ years ago would help alleviate our crowded airports, crowded skies, and pilot shortage. Those who don't think so have a financial incentive for keeping the status quo and should be ignored.
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You should follow your passion of becoming a pilot. It is a great career. Take one step every day toward your career goal and I am sure you will make it to your ultimate goal in aviation.
Some people don’t have a “passion”. So pay is a guiding factor. I suspect what a lot of people are also forgetting is the massive wave of retirement. Not just of pilots, because that’s happening. But Think about what people do when they retire… they book trips… they go on vacations… they have expendable income for things such as cruises, flights, hotel… they go places for funerals.. lol
I think people say don't follow your passion and follow the pay are well meaning but I have found a career you are passionate about can lead to a decent pay. Furthermore, many times we normally develop a passion for things we know. That is why discovering a new hobby such as flying is so much fun, it may turn into a new passion in life. It may even turn into a career. People are traveling for many reasons and I agree retirees will be a large segment of the travel population now and in the future. Pay is a very important consideration for those who already have financial obligations such as a family. Thanks for the comment. P.S. Look for another upcoming video where I discuss pay.
I'm a Portuguese Canadian living in Toronto, but also have my European citizenship- I'm single and don't mind starting over in Europe- are the wages just as competitive in Europe, are the flight laws the same, hours worked ect Is Portugal a difficult place to become a pilot- where are the best places in Europe to be a pilot. Also, I currently do Hvac, am 46 years old, don't make a terrible wage, and don't hate my job, but love the idea of traveling and having more time off , but am worried I may not like pilot Life- so pilots generally like what they do- what don't they like
The opportunities are different in every country. Although pilot jobs are highest in the US you should also look at quality of life in your decision to become a pilot. In general pilots like what they do but you normally hear from those that dislike their jobs because they are more outspoken especially online. If you are considering a change of careers there is much to consider and I would recommend your talking to a career coach. We offer this service at: www.aviationcareerspodcast.com/coaching/ Most importantly do your research and listen to as many pilots as you can about the lifestyle and career. Check out a podcast we did on the 10 reasons you should or should not become an airline pilot: www.aviationcareerspodcast.com/acp023-ten-reasons-you-should-not-become-an-airline-pilot-career-questions-answered-with-tom-wachowski/ www.aviationcareerspodcast.com/acp026-ten-reasons-you-should-become-an-airline-pilot-with-len-costa-from-the-stuck-mic-avcast/
@@AviationCareersPodcast unfortunately I don't have USA citizenship, I have canadian and Europe, guess pilot jobs in Canada must be similar to USA or better then Europe, thanks again for the resources and help, I have alot more to research and consider- if I get my license in Canada is it valid in other countries, if I move, can't seem to find the answer online
@@dsd-downshiftdave8056 Many times people train in the USA as a foreigners and transfer their license through the aviation authority in their country. For example, many Canadians train in the US and convert to a Transport Canada License when they finish their training. Here is a link from Transport Canada describing the conversion. tc.canada.ca/en/aviation/licensing-pilots-personnel/flight-crew-licences-permits-ratings/converting-us-canadian-pilot-licence. There are many other online resources describing how to transfer a license between countries. Here is a link to the EASA website www.easa.europa.eu/en/domains/aircrew-and-medical/aircrew Hope this helps.
they overloaded on FOs thinking those FOs would upgrade to captain, instead theyre all skipping to LCCs or even straight to Legacy carriers without every needing to upgrade to captain
Easy explanation, it’s takes a ton of work, dedication, grit and TIME to become an airline pilot. Tons of people want the pay but few these days have what it takes to stay the course. In this life nothing worth it is free, it’s earned.
There are other ways to make more money though. It's a big investment and everyone has to decide if the cost benefit is worth it. For some it's not worth it.
It cost me $60000 to get my lic and when i start job search no one is willing to hire me cz i dont have 1500hrs plus the pay is terrible in Canada for new First Officer, even garbage truck driver making hell lot of more money then First Offcier.
in EU to be FO there is needed CPL with passed ATPL theory. 1500hour is minimum to in theory be a captain. In EU in practice you need 500h to become FO
Add in the ridiculous requirement of needing 1000 hours part 121 time to be eligible for a command! Over 20,000 hours flying aircraft jets around the world and can’t be a captain in the USA! No where else has this requirement!! No where
Flight time can be a combination of 121, 135, and 91 hours as defined in 121.436: www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/14/121.436 . 121 operators can also ask for a waiver to this requirement. This will take some research based on the airline you are working for. Hope this helps.
Baby boomer pilots are retired by now. Im one of them. Turned 60 in 2008..stayed active for 36 yrs and did simulator instructor on the 747-400 for 7 yrs. The demand for pilots are getting bigger worldwide.Airlines are expanding buying airplanes faster than having pilots available. Training is expensive,ATPL are required to join the legacy carriers etc. aside from hours earned experience levels are getting affected by new applicants. Major carriers now fly basic crew of 2 pilots on Airbus and Boeings. Augmented crew for long and ultra long haul flights. Flight engineers are a dying breed with majors. In other words too many planes, pilot production cannot keep up with the demand.Pilots are moving around the world, for the simple reason of pay and bonuses. Quality will suffer if not handled correctly specially command positions. It is a problem and will stay a problem for some time.
Questions for you pro's: I have 237 hours TT and $15k to my name. What are the chances I can self-study using Kings / Sheppard, knock out the IR / CSEL written, and pass the IR / CSEL / CFI checkrides with a Part 61 op so that I can get paid to time build? Is that a feasible goal with only $15k if I don't need (much) time, just knowledge to pass these tests? And assuming the answer is yes, how long are people instructing nowadays before being picked up by a regional? ATP with 1,500 hours? Or is the average more like 3k hours now? My local FBO said yes to these questions and told me 1,500 for the regional hop, but I know they're in the business of staying in business and want my money as much as I do.
I've dreamed of being a commercial pilot since 1970. I'm now 63 and I believe it's way too late. I was told that since I wear glasses that I would not qualify.
It might be too late to become an airline pilot but there are many other flying jobs out there. It is interesting how things have changed since the 70's concerning the wearing of glasses. Now it doesn't even matter if you have glasses as long as you are correctable to 20/20.
@@AviationCareersPodcast if there were good paying jobs for being a pilot besides airline pilots, I would reconsider a career change. I just don't know what kind of jobs that would be.
The airlines pay their pilots plenty. What they need to start doing in order to enhance their hiring pool is bridging the 1500 hr gap of flight time with funding. That CFI gig sucks, squeezes, bangs and blows, quite frankly and is punctuated by the ironies that: 1 - CFIs don't actually fly very much. The student does nearly all the flying. 2 - It's a little odd to have your least experienced pilots training new recruits. I suppose it does enhance the knowledge base, though, always delving into regulations and techniques and such and some people love doing it. But the ironies are there nonetheless.
Yes, there have always been people who have been able to get hired in 2 to 3 years. The averages have not changed because I take into consideration all pilots. For example, those who go to college and then instruct typically take 5 years to get to their ultimate goal. Additionally, some don't get hired by their destination airlines right away and spend a year or two before they are accepted at their ultimate airline. 20 years ago airlines were hiring pilots with only 1 to 3 years of experience. That was truly old school.
Unless your family has money, flying as a career is nothing but BS. Here in Australia, they expect instructors to live off 36k per year while they build hours. Not possible. Cleaners make more money, and they didn't spend over 100k to learn how to clean.....it's just stupid.
Entry level jobs are low most places even here in the US. It is not easy in the beginning to be a pilot but pays in the long run. Additionally, pilot jobs are not as plentiful in Australia as other countries. This causes some Australians to move to other countries such as the US to gain ours.
It is notable that entry level IT jobs bring in $50k to $60k. Aviation isn’t unique in that much of my generation turned away from many other career fields out of the simple fact of needing to pay our bills and getting the best deal in the tech industry. I’m 10 years into IT and now pursuing aviation because I finally have the means to, but I’m definitely leaving a lot of money on the table and taking a big risk.
There are times of shortage and oversupply just like any other industry. Currently we have a shortage of qualified pilots but that could change with a down turn in the economy. I feel the next 50 years I feel this is a great carer field due to the lack of qualified pilots and increase in compensation. Pilots can make a livable wage early in their careers which was not the case in the past. Here is a very interesting article concerning the subject: www.usglobaletfs.com/insights/pilot-shortage-a-blessing-in-disguise/
@AviationCareersPodcast until the airlines don't start paying for training or push for atp minimums to be lowered there is no shortage. Anything that I have heard from pilots first hand is there is no shortage and it is overblown. There is a shortage for captains at the regionals but no shortage of pilots.
@@Sjr930 Some airlines are paying for a portion or all of the training and they have been lobbying for ATP minimum relief for years. Again, the lack of pilots eligible for Captain proves the point that we have a lack of qualified pilots and thus a shortage. If you are interested in navigating the current environment and are looking towards a career in aviation please reach out to me at www.aviationcareerspodcast.com/coaching/
@AviationCareersPodcast what airline pays for flight training in the us? Answer is none, there is always strings attached these cadet programs are highly expensive and rarely worth it. There is always a "looming" pilot shortage but the reality is it is always majorly overblown. Talk to any pilot at a major right now. Talk to any pilot that has fresh atp minimums airlines aren't fighting eachother to get you to sign with them. You're lucky to get an interview most cases. The only airline lobbying to lower minimums was republic which got shot down almost immediately.
There is no pilot shortage unless you are talking about qualified pilots, if you love aviation and want to sell your soul to this religion, then you can find a place. Most people would think its insane to spend a fortune for something that’s uncertain, yet people do it when starting a business, you you are a business, this is risky like anything worth doing.
@@youtubeyerr $120,000 is about right for ATI or one of the other accelerated programs that will get you to a restricted ATP. Not saying it is worth it, but that is what they are charging. (Of course that is only to get your commercial, and the ability to get the ATP for less total hours.) It might be cheaper to do it through a part 61 school, but you are still looking at $50k just in plane rental before you get your commercial, then spend years accumulating hours, just to become eligible for a regional as the market swings back.
Like I said, if there were a real shortage,the 1500 rule would be gone and we wouldn’t have the mandatory 65 rule. This is a money making scheme by the big flight academy’s to separate suckers from there money with no job at the end of the rainbow.
I dont think the current shortage will continue more than 4 years , Causes: 1-In case 1500 hr rule be abolished the job market will be flooded with pilots 2- Automation and AI will replace pilots within 15-20 years gradually may be w will have less pilots on long haul flights or single pilots on cargo flights ...etc. till we reach 100%fully automated planes 3- the government may provide students loans for student pilots but that has a low 4- airlines will provide cadet programs for pilot's with assessed payment schemes to fill the shortage
None of those are going to happen though. 1. Politicians will never lower the 1500 rule, it wouldn’t be publicly popular at all. 2. Automation is a lot farther out than 15-20 years. 3. The government hasn’t subsidized pilot training so far and they have no reason to do so. 4. Cadet programs don’t make flight training any cheaper for prospective pilots.
