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I never realised how much I had to convince myself to start everything in my life until I started adhd medication and it took nearly nothing to begin. It was life changing seeing a glimmer of how "normal" people operate.
@@michaelstilon6770 So by this point I’ve settled into the “right” dose for me (which was a decent increase from the start) and it mostly feels normal. I’m used to functioning like this now so the effect is more subtle, but here’s what I’ve found; - I can still get up and do things. May not want to, but I’m not sat there wishing I could and failing to start. - If I do very productive things for long enough I will need to rest and recover. Im not bone-crushingly exhausted and I can do necessary things, but I do need rest. I imagine it’s more like non adhd people rest now. - The most benefit to me has come in the form of increased understanding of what’s habit vs what was chemical. With meds, some things are a non issue, some are improved but still need working around, and some are just things I actually hate doing and need delegated. - I’m not fatigued all the time now. That alone is a big deal. - The space between thought and action where I can decide is priceless. - I’m more able to be patient I could go on. But yes, my answer is meds are still helping a lot, even though they’re now taking on a “part of the whole solution” rather than “OMG THIS FIXES EVERYTHING” and to be honest, I like it this way around.
@@TylinaVespart wow, thank you so much for opening up about this! It really motivates me right now especially because I am in one of those darker places. I want to take medication because I have my final year of university and I am at peak level of stress.
@@michaelstilon6770 Oh man, I remember final year of uni! It was a long while ago for me now (so obviously undiagnosed) in a relatively practical subject so I really struggled with trying to do too much in every unit. Scraped through, but I wish I’d had someone there to say to me that “doing your best” meant doing your best while taking care of yourself and sleeping at night. Take your time, see if your university can offer you any help… is there anything specific getting to you just now? Your mileage may vary, but for me I’d have benefitted from help during planning and smaller, shorter deadlines.
@@TylinaVespart I have been supported by my therapist mostly and she has helped me get through the most difficult moments over the past two years. I think that my planning abilities are at their near best right now. Its just when i get to working on my assignments, I still struggle immensely and it pushes me further down the rabbit hole. I get super fatigued from literally one lecture too, and the social anxiety of university life in general. Its a mixture of everything. I feel that if i could just finish more of my tasks in the week, I would have a better mood overall.
I have both severe ADHD and severe Depression among other things. What I hate is when I'm disappointed about something small, but it just gets worse and worse until I don't know why I'm so angry. Then I lash out at ppl and have been known to uncontrollably hit and physically harm myself (specifically on the head) on multiple occasions. But I feel like I can't tell anyone because then I'll just look like a 24 year old toddler throwing a temper tantrum.
Same, I feel like throwing stuff across the room and fidgeting uncontrollably, but I try to control myself to make myself look a lot less weird. Doing that really makes me want to do it even more. It's torture.
I recognize myself in this. It's really hard for me to get started, so I don't. Then, when the deadline rolls around, I either half-ass the assignment or don't do it at all and accept the bad grade, usually followed by a terrible feeling.
I suddenly felt so sad so I came on RU-vid and I stumbled upon this video. I was researching the relation between adhd and depression. I don't feel depressed ALL THE TIME but sometimes it's almost like I trip and fall in such a dark place which lasts for days or even longer. Research is helping me to regulate my emotions and get me to understand why I think and act the way I do.
I have ADHD though i am very organised. I have my own business and am very good at it. I just cant hold avrelationship. My gf broke up with me and said she wants somone stable. Now i cant stop thinking about it and have been depressed for 8 months. Its killing me. Medication does nothing. I cant stop ruminating. Its doing my head in.
I just feel fatigued, so physically it's draining having to get started on tasks. Probably do to my early work schedule and sleep problems caused by the aforementioned. Then again I've always felt tired even as a teenager.
Oh thank you! I'd almost given up today, I'm 58 and in a terrible state, I lived an erratic but vibrant life til I got full blown depression in my 40s and I've spiralled down hill since. I was diagnosed with ADHD in December 2022. This is my worst problem - I seem to lack all volition - its the first time I've ever heard it described rationally, gives me a bit of hope.
@@bennyton2560 The UK medical community has a long long way to go in understanding ADHD symptoms in women. The ignorance is beyond shocking...In my coaching practice, Focus with Faigy, my female clients tell me horror stories of being misdiagnosed, given wrong meds, wasting thousands of pounds on private doctors who should be doing more research to understand ADHD, who just don't get it.. And on a personal level my family and myself all have ADHD, and yes, we are ALL on ADHD meds...I live in the ADHD trenches...
"it's not procrastination [becuase] there's no intention involved." that is SUCH a fantastic quote. i had to pause the video for a second to think about that. it's way too often that i mean to do something (or i HAVE to do something) and then i just don't do it for some reason, and it's not til at least an hour or more later than i realize that i should've started this thing earlier but i didn't because this little thing came up or i thought of this other thing i could do and got distracted and forgot. sometimes it's intentional because i really just don't care / the consequences haven't set in, but usually it doesn't start off that way...
I wish I could see you as a patient Doc. I've had a psychiatrist tell me she doesn't believe in ADHD. She needs to have lived in my brain for the last 50 yrs :/ I've never been medicated for it as it was not recognised in girls in the 60's & 70's, & now the psych won't let me try an amphetimine because I've had past addiction problems when I finally fell apart at the age of 48!
Not even joking. It took me two days to starr clean my aparattment. Then i was done in like 2 hours. I have been stuck in the "void" surfing on my mobile for two days! Its not even funny. I feel that i dont really have a concept of time as well
had to watch this several times as I got distracted, but WOW. I feel so seen! Going through school it wasn't so bad, as I was smart enough to coast on that even when my performance wasn't good. But in college shit got real. To this day I am not even sure how I managed to finish the degree. Working life seems a little bit easier as I can feel the consequences of not working very well, and they are very scary. I wish I was able to find a specialist in my country with whom to discuss this intersection of issues.
Thank you for putting my everyday struggle into words! As a 19 year old who just finished her freshman year of college it was so incredibly hard for me to pass. I felt like there was a constant battle in my head, my parental voice scolding me for not doing assignments while the child voice felt like starting wasn’t even an option. And then on top of my internal struggle having people around me tell me that because it’s easy for them to start and finish projects it should be easy for me. It’s very frustrating especially at the stage of life I’m in and I don’t want to let ADHD run my life for the rest of my life
I'm 18 and starting my freshman year, but I'm already seeing how this possible ADHD of mine can affect me and it's making me concerned. Back in senior high it was the same, constant struggle of forcing myself to get started and forcing myself to stay focused on one thing only when getting started and trying my best to push out all those negative thoughts of giving up because I have a toubke getting started and pushing through it. It seems like a miracle I even went through my senior high school years, what more in college, now that I have to organize everyhting myself and motivate myself to do things even more :< I hpe I get through this school year
Having adhd since birth but diagnosed after I brought my 1st born to child specialist/neurologist, I was 41yrs old. It’s very important to know n understand that the brain is an organ like liver heart etc but way more complex. So as the heart may have multiple issues that need to be addressed so the brain. We are not broken people that need to be fixed or cured. ADHD properly diagnosed especially the other areas of the physical brain need to be “tuned up” just like a car engine. Depression n anxiety are other aspects of adhd from neurological point n psychological issues also are included. I’ve been in meds since I got diagnosed n now I’m 49. I’m not “fixed” but much better “tuned up” n am also enjoying the many blessings of adhd n depression because they don’t overwhelm me anymore. Godspeed😁
I’m in my late 30s and I have both ADD and MDD. I am on medication for the MDD, but not the ADD. I don’t have the hyper active component. I have the hyper focused component of the disorder. Also I have low empathy. Right now I’m trying to figure out what to cook for dinner and it’s quite exhausting, and then I have to go grocery store to get the ingredients. It’s really debilitating. My wife is suffering for it too, sadly.
I love how you explain how ADHD can interact with mental health struggles. I have ADHD and co-occuring anxiety/depression as my diagnoses. First I was diagnosed with anxiety/depression. After doing therapy for about a year, I got in ADHD coaching and my therapy kicked off like it has never before, and I feel like my treatment is finally answering to my needs. It's a long road, but I got lucky finding my right way.
We were just told by a doctor that co-occuring diagnosis of depression and anxiety couldn't happen with ADHD. I was hoping to get my daughter help and just felt humiliated by him.
So happy to hear the "it's not procrastination because there's no intention involved" comment. I actually had a hard time even identifying that I 'procrasinated' pre-diagnosis because it never intended on getting the thing done to begin with.
Just yeaaah.. This executional dysfunction, or whatever it's called, is the reason why i seaked professional diagnosis i'm waiting for now. I'm at university studying comp-sci and the workload is very high. It's basically impossible for me to achieve my goals. I was wondering like "am i just so dumb?", so i took an IQ test and briefly results came back saying "nope, that's not the problem". Also I should mention I'm diagnosed with clinical depression and take meds, but only thing they do for me is resolving the really core problems of depression (mood, suicidal ideation etc..). But my motivation is still none and my work ethics is terrible even though i try rlly hard. So i hope maybe adhd medication could help.
They should have tried ADHD meds first...assuming they knew you had it. ADHD has many co-morbidities I think they are called...those being, depression, anxiety ect. ADHD is usually the CAUSE...so fixing or helping ur ADHD should cure or reduce the others. Side note NOT everyone with ADHD aka ADD gets the same benefits from the mediations...some get 0 benefit. While rare its still a possibility also there are many meds and side effects ect... its going to be medicine roulette until you figure out what works at what doses and what does not. Hopefully something does and you get 0 side effects or only tolerable ones.
Im a highschooler and introvert with adhd with low self-esteem and I'm always getting told to calm down or focus on my work. But they never know that I simply can't . And it makes me really annoyed by it. I also take medicine for ADHD and I hate it because I lose all of my personally and I just keep to my self and I start to get anxiety. And I feel like a can never be my self unless I'm alone with my friends. And I hate it.
Hi, I know this was 5 months ago and I hope you're doing better, but I wanted to say talk to your doctor about your meds of you can. The not feeling like yourself isn't typical so, could be wrong type or dose. It can get better from here
This is the same way i felt on some of the meds back when i tried them. I also did not feel like it really helped me. I just remember like something felt like it was switched on that and I had the normal side effect of not feeling hungry ever...so yea...forcing myself to eat.
4:30 Same thing can go for, won't feel the rewards and benefits of simply pursuing interests and passions during a depression/ initiating activity that will get me up out of my depression
The emotional overload overwhelm, agitattion has cost me jobs& destroyed my self employment. Gotten really bad last few years. I want outof my skin when it's going on. It comes on for 3-5 hrs then goes away most days. .i get going crazy ruminating, looping how much time is blown. I spend all day to get a couple hrs of decent work or tasks, have a hissyfit, finally calm down or sleep, Then can do 10+16 hr straight no problems. Same crap that caused the adgitation earlier. What is that called. Dr said OCD drives my bus &add& depression ride it
What I'm looking for everywhere is an answer to this dilemma- I've struggled with getting things started for so many years amongst other executive dysfunctions (concentration, disorganization, and forgetfulness) but I also have a history of depression and ptsd. Can I just have these "getting started issues" without ADHD and just because of depression or do I also have ADHD??
I'm not very familiar with PTSD, but I do know that those can be caused by depression. However, if those issues *were* caused by ADHD, it could possibly be making the depression worse. It's good to have it ruled out just in case, especially if those issues are having a negative impact on your life. Disclaimer: I'm NOT a doctor or anything. Nearly all my life, I knew I had depression and I assumed that it was causing my anxiety and lack of focus. However, antidepressants didn't help me much in those areas. I was recently diagnosed with "severe ADHD, recurrent moderate major depressive disorder, and social anxiety disorder." I have started taking ADHD medication (Vyvanse) and my ability to concentrate has drastically improved. Because I can get things done, some of my situational anxiety is reduced, which (to an extent) has also helped my depression. I still suffer from both anxiety and depression, but I feel that it's less volatile when my ADHD is treated.
ADHD has a lot of co-morbidities I believe the name is...usually anxiety and or depression...can be one or both...usually these are SEEN first or noticed first and NOT treating the REAL cause ur ADHD/ADD. Talk to ur doc or get another opinion.
Much like antisocial traits, that can be brought about by genetic predisposition or environmentally or a combination. I wonder if there are trauma induced forms of adhd which result from underdeveloped executive function due to trauma induced dissociation. I know that I was highly dissociated by 2nd grade age 8-9 for me. I call it “the year of the paper airplane”, meaning I made a lot of paper airplanes and didn’t do much else.
What is an add medication that works well with wellbutrin and or Zoloft? From what I've been researching, psychiatrist's don't recommend taking both adhd & antidepressants together, is this true?
Probably, but a lot of doctors anymore are taught to treat symptoms and not try to solve ur real problem. Im not a doctor, but you need to ask and find out if your depression goes if they treat ur ADD/ADHD. Id guess PROBABLY going to be gone or reduced without anit-depressants, if they properly treat ur ADD/ADHD.
Because of our inability to feel the urgency of starting the task we do not start the task. We may feel bad once it gets missed but we never feel the impact until it is here. Also, ur probably already dealing with a buncha shit all the time, so its likely not Priority 1. Anything not Priority 1 is likely not going to get done.
Wait!? These things, especially the one with deadlines, those aren’t normal situations? There are people that can start stuff, before the deadlines put pressure on them?
I am a disabled senior with ADHD AND COMPLEX PTSD I CAN’T GET ANY HELP BECAUSE I AM POOR AND THE MEDICAID DOCTORS DON’T HAVE THE KNOWLEDGE TO HELP ME! Do you have any ideas that can help me! I am desperate for help and about ready to give up
I want to know , does anyone think, or has anyone tried , to ween their teen, or themselves, off of adhd medication... And has it helped their depression subside?
I was taken off meds as a teenager. It made my depression even worse, because I could no longer accomplish even the few things I could do with the meds. I was a turbo looser. Talk to a doctor about changing or adding meds.
@@nobody8328 nobody hi, im sorry for your depression. I have learned since asking this question- that when a person has adhd and takes an adhd pill in morn.. They need to balance it iut in the evening with a depression pill (seratonin booster).. My son has changed so much in the past few weeks since i had him out on lexapro. He is taking methlyphenidate 54mg in morn and lexapro, 5 mg in evening about 6. And it has been making him a much more tolerable person, and more happy. He writes in a journal that he doesnt know i read on occasion- but he stated that he feels much better since being on the depression med so far.. I am very happy about this.. Hope this info can help others.. I saw a video from a man here on youtube named.. "Dr. Charles parker" called adhd, depression, and anxiety .. Opened up alot of info for me about my sons issue.. 👌
I am 16 and have been weening myself off my adhd meds. I find that my meds worsen my depression and since thats getting worse it makes my adhd worse which makes my depression worse and so on. What ive realized is finding a middle ground of treating both problems is whats usually best for people. To answer ur question i think u should ween your teen off the adhd meds but seek a therapist to help
Diagnosed with adhd as a kid got back on meds for adhd, that just wasn’t enough added a Lamotrigine to my Adderall perfect mix for me still adjusting the dosage for the Adderall but getting better!
