Aerith's Death Scene Original vs Remake - Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth (1997 vs 2024) 

lol 😂

Aerith death scene When Cloud reaches Aerith watch as he walks through the whispers, pay attention, it’s like he is walking into worlds, do you see how it flashes, new world, OG world. When Cloud reaches Aerith and the camera angle looks down at Aerith, pause, zoom in, her hair tie is pink. Watch as Aerith is opening her eyes as the feather falls, look at the color of her hair tie it’s purple. New world: Look at Cloud sword when he screams, “NO” also it looks like he went into a different world at that moment, you see a rainbow of light going up his sword and it’s glows green and you can see a green mist coming from his sword, it reminds me of what Rosa did to Alphreid sword during his fight in the loveless play. Watch as Cloud deflects Sephiroth sword you see rainbows like in the church and sleepy forest, remember the white whispers were with Aerith before her death. Watch how Sephiroth sword landed, it lands straight up. Cloud saves Aerith. Look at Aerith hair tie, it’s pink and it flashes back to the OG as the camera shows the Sephiroth sword, look at the angle of his sword, it is sideways, Aerith falls to her death, her purple hair tie falls out of her hair. Aerith hair tie, OG world it’s purple and pink in the new world? Cloud runs and holds Aerith body, you see flashes back and forth to the OG world she dies, he has tears and muttering words. OG world. As the others run, Tifa stops in her tracks, not because of Aerith’s death, it’s because she sees blood and no blood she doesn’t understand what is happening but she was in the lifestream. New world: Cloud lays Aerith on her back and he tells her I got this, look at the others they are standing still, not moving. OG world, pay attention. As Tifa runs towards Aerith she is laying on her side, remember Cloud lays on her back in the new world. As soon as you see Cloud boot, pause, zoom in, you still see Aerith laying on her side. New world: As Cloud approached Aerith is once again laying on her back, the whispers are flying around, Cloud walks through the whispers and the others disappear, he asks Aerith to wake up she does. Why do you think Sephiroth told Aerith, I must admit I underestimated you. And also why did they show Aerith hair tie it’s pink, look at her death scene again when she is praying and opens her eyes when she sees the feathers falling her hair tie is purple, when she falls to her death it is also purple. It was Aerith destiny to die in the OG world and she did, creating a new world means she can change her destiny and she did.

​@@vaasmontenegro3728bro relax i saw you in everywhere about Aerith death in rebirth.😂 And repeated and repeated the same shit. WTF is wrong with you? Left my guess, you think if you repeat 1,000 times the same shit will become real.😅 Okay, Bro i know you love Aerith , you NEED to she is alive but BRO!. RELAX, KEEP KALM, You look like a crazy man 🤪 and anybody have the 100% real true.😅 RELAX hahhahahha😂

This entire description is more confusing than the godamn game.@@vaasmontenegro3728

​@vaasmontenegro3728 so what does that all mean?😵‍💫

He's a master gaslighter

One of the best video game villains ever he’s the Thanos of video games

@@westside9032thanos ain’t all dat

@@girthatbirth he’s all that and more

@@westside9032 he’s mid lol read a comic, i can name many better. his motives don’t make sense.

Technically it is... what Cloud saw in those moments WAS ANOTHER UNIVERSE, in which he saves Aertih But it seems that this was momentary, this means that in part 3 Cloud may possibly manage to go to another universe since he is already more That confirmed that there is more Cloud, I managed to be momentarily in his universe and the other universe in which Aerith does not die.

@@The_Doc5894They are going to throw all of us to a surprise in part 3 that in the end that universe Zack and Aerith and Biggs will come and join them. I think We will actually get a happy ending where our heroes who died live. Except for Jessie and Wedge.

​@@dreamgamershd345 I hope that, they deservet

It’s a canon event

They were clever. They made us care again

It is in there but only a sneak since cloud is in denial of the tragedy and creates a new scenario in his head. This is good for the new players and kind of a bummer for the OG fans. They probably gonna save the whole scene when tifa helps cloud to collect his memories.

@@ullaluloo8925 not even the new people understands whats going on, so your argument doesnt make sense.They didnt pleased "anybody" with the way this scene unfolded.

@@absi49 I’m not even tryna argue bruh, chill.

@@ullaluloo8925I didn't mean in rebirth, i meant in the video itself. It makes for a weird comparison to cut that part out imo.

​​@@BlackCatsXVIIthat part was the hardest hitting part in the entire OG scene, and the fact that they took it off in the Remake just demonstrates how arrogant the Nomura/ Nojima/ Kitase trio is, thinking they could top that scene by chopping it off to make space to multiverses 'n stuff. Despite liking the Remake/ Rebirth changes when they improve the original, Aerith's death here is a huge L.

Pretty sure it’s from Cloud’s POV (which is mixed with delusions) instead of from our POV.

​@@Akanapocalypse it's still botched.

everyone wants the big sad death and slow mo tears and orchestra. THe truth of the matter is cloud cant have those because of his delusions. I think they wanted to make people comong out of this confused because thats how cloud is. They will probably make this a big emotional beat in part 3 when he realizes the truth about where hes been, zack, and now aerith

THIS CAN'T BE REAL!!!!!

@@alster724 given how bad the first part of the remake turned out I can assure you: it's real

I really feel like they're not showing us that dialogue until part 3. And I hope they add it cuz it's very iconic

Remake Sephiroth really is Sephithot.

its not really ff7 rebirth its more ff7 sephiroth

The first part couldn't even get through the aftermath of the reactor mission without the creators blowing a Sephiload in their shorts. The writing has been on the wall since.

That or S-E wussed out on showing the details (this is the same S-E that couldn't show Celes getting punched in the FFVI Pixel Remaster...)

The scenario isn't fake. A new timeline emerged when he crossed the fate barrier. When the worlds merged cloud can see the aerith he saved. The aerith he's seeing is the aerith who kept on talking to him in advent children.

Boo hoo someone get me my violin

How do you reckon? Is it from her line that she’ll stop meteor? I do think cloud did actually stop sephiroth, what happened next I’m not sure. Either sephiroth or the whispers interfered to cause aerith to die. What we saw was cloud (and even tifa) simultaneously seeing different versions play out. Like quickly. Ultimately in the remake world, aerith is prob dead? And cloud can be argued to be going Through multiple issues: disassociation which he is prone to doing, seeing AERITH from an actual timeline, seeing an illusion by sephiroth (he Afterall believes the reunion is good which is exactly what sephiroth wants), like he isn’t completely insane (red did sense aerith). But he is also acting incredibly robotic and nonchalant; he tells his gang not to worry about the sky as he sees what’s going on, but he dosnt seem to think “why aren’t they worried?” He dosnt want to dwell on the fact that his aerith is GONE.

@@ropebunnii It's not exactly another timeline. More like, certain events in the story are creating new possible worlds. Zack's world is one of them. What happened to Aerith seems to be odd. Cloud did save her, but there was some potential interference. In fact, he seems to be overlapping in two different worlds for some reason. The crack in the sky is visible in Zack's world, which later becomes visible in Cloud's world, but only Cloud (And Aerith) can perceive it as being there. There's also the coma version of Cloud and Aerith in Zack's world. Not only this, but Biggs somehow managed to get into Zack's world. Maybe Coma Aerith in Zack's world will wake up soon? in the 3rd game maybe

yup,some people that never played the original will even take some time to notice she died,this entire portrayal on rebirth is confusing and dont show anything, the person in charge really fcked it up

@@absi49and even the director or the creator of the remake says he wants to stay true to the original. NOPE!!! They did Aerith death horribly.

This is rather a sequel than a remake, and these destiny ghosts are the central part to it

that's the point

@@MayabichiAerith isn’t a ghost lmao

Omega-simp

@@lorenzopiscosi9566you van like a character and not be a simp

If she did even die. What a mind trip. I guess they tried to pull a "convoluted timeline dark souls" thing here and just made it in a incoherent mess

That was the point but they ruined it

@@raycraft001 don't cry... simp

yeah. They changed this part a lot. In the OG FF7, he is still in illusion but when it came to Aeris' death, he realized that she really did die and accepted it. So he did the water burial. But in Rebirth, his illusion got like 10 times worse where he believes that he saved her lol

If anything I think the water burial will be in third game. I feel when the realization for Cloud that she's really gone

Yeah, there’s gonna be a whole mind fuck when he actually realized that he’s been making stuff up this entire time.

we didnt even see her die. What a cop out.

Right?! FF Rebirth is a good game with a shit ending​@@purefoldnz3070

ah yes the 240p graphics

​@@girthatbirth. Yeah, it makes you wonder how they could have screwed it up.

​@@SeventhheavenDK except they didn't

But In Rebirth She Doesnt Die But Something Else Happens

Seriously, and they're just a bad design.

One of the stupidest Idea ever, when all the expanded characters like Jessie where more than enough. This new ghost stories should be like a DLC of Sephiroth revenge after the trilogy instead.

Damn careless Whispers.

I agree, they're so forced it's awful. I honestly even thought Remake was pretty decent, expect for the ending at the bridge with the dementors. Just seemed like odd filler

​@@rcslyman8929lol

Yes... Give in to the hatred.. Hold on to it. Hate sephiroth more

Why they did a good job making him the villain you can't have a good story without a good villain.

Sephiroth should have bent cloud over in the remake and give him a real reason to cry

@@AceCrusaider shit you got me there

Agreeddd

New games have bad characters. The old ones have more personalities.

It’s can be explained by a few of theses explanations: 1. Cloud is back into denial. Speaking with thinking or remembering. 2. In this moment multiple versions are playing out. Combined with his grief and shock it’s overwhelming.

@@bradhorowitz2765 i agree hes 100% in denial, he's the only one who's not crying or depressed in the ending

we actually can see cloud hugging her saying something we can't hear at 6:00 there's where he says that! "my fingers are tingling. my mouth is dry. my eyes are burning!"

⁠@@qui11 that had nothing to do with the OP’s question. Smh

I suspect we'll see it properly in Part 3 during the Lifestream sequence, since Cloud is clearly repressing what actually happened here like he did with Zack's death. They'll probably move Zack's flashback over to the Lifestream sequence too, so that Tifa learns what happened to Zack and she can help Cloud work his way through Aerith's death in addition to piecing together all the other memory issues that were there in the original game.

@@incendiesproductions i just hope they execute it properly Aeriths Death is too iconic to be messed up and delivered in a convulated way

Guess you can say your vision was… *Clouded*

Perhaps the scene as we're familiar with will be part of cloud fixing his memories later on.

​@@incendiesproductions I Hope, SE should really fix it.

Nomura wrote it, everybody at the company worships the guy and keeps giving him power, and he takes it and makes overly convoluted multiverse writing with it.

​@@astrahcat1212 dipshT Nomura has no say in the story for 7Remake trilogy he wanted a 1:1 remake. you should point it to Kitase, the OG director of FF7 and now producer who wanted the changes.

@moondoor9031 KH isnt confusing. How is that confusing seeing a bunch of teens k*lling eachother with keyblades same goes to that KH mobile game wherein everyone in the union, kids that got recruited, died.

And the dialogue wasn't as good imo

After part 1 it should be little surprise.

nah u just dont get you dont get it all!, she was killed by the idea of being killed its SO OBVIOUS..... /s. talk about a massive monkeys paw imagine wanting an remake of ff7 and this is the shit you get

These games are made for the part of the audience that could watch anything happen and think "that are make sense actually" because something something retcon ghosts.

"Vandalism"? by who the devs who made the original? lol

@@arvinjay336 the team has changed significantly since the Squaresoft days. But even if it were one for one the same team from '97, anybody can vandalise anything. James Cameron and the Terminator franchise are a prime example. So what's your point?

@@EdgarFriendlysCivicsTeacher its still the same team dude Kitase, Nomura, Nojima and joined by Uematsu.

@@EdgarFriendlysCivicsTeacher also how is this vAnDAlIsm? they didn't even discard what happens in the OG and its there untouched and playable on almost every platforms.

I'm glad someone said it

I agree

Really hoping it turns out that all this stuff was just imagined by Cloud, another part of his delusions. Would make his mind break that much worse in the 3rd game if he realizes that Zack and Aerith were killed this whole time and instead of coping with it, he fabricated these intricate worlds in his mind where everything turned out fine.

​@@gnelson7225well, there's the split sky thing, red feeling aerith, zack still alive and even sephieboi sayong he's merging words, so... yeah, it sounds like part 3 will just be a incomprehensible mess.

this is the stand alone game...

The phrase is like this, your journey will not end well, you cannot change the fate, no man can

​@@Leonardo_Az_WARRIOR WITHIN REFERENCE 🔥🔥🔥🔥💯💯💯💯💯

*laughs in Kratos*

I AM... THE ARCHITECT OF MY OWN DESTRUCTION

You can't change your fate... No man can...

I agree, '97 feels better and more touching with Aerith theme playing through all the Jenova fight. '24 Idk why they added all those Sephiroth's fights after it.

@@fernandoantunez8114 also, cloud in 97 accepted her death, cloud 2024 has becoming delusional

​@@fernandoantunez8114because 97 is 1 game while 2024 has 3 so this fight must be the final boss fight

​@@phanhuyduc2395 yep

“But uuut buut guys in the next part its gonna be said when cloud realizes she dead oh god nomura is such genius”

yeah I heard "blacklightattack" saying the same in his gameplay... it was really sad, poor cloud and aeris :( I hate that they omited that xD

It was also more brutal cuz we didn’t know it was going to happen. This game came out before social media and the internet was in its early days so you don’t get spoiled.

​​@@IsThisThePrizeIveWaitedForExactly, People are being unrealistic when they expected SE to completely capture the Feelings of the OG death scene because the sheer unexpectedness played a massive part in its iconic-ness. Basically no matter what they did, it would've been disappointing to the OG Purists

@@066kshitizvsingh4 Wrong, they just had to do it 1:1 with modern graphics, easy. But they fuked it up.

@@066kshitizvsingh4 Exactly. It would be like if Disney ever tried to remake the original Star Wars trilogy. They could never recapture the shock audiences had when they heard Darth Vader say "I am your father", because the whole world knows it now.

Aerith's theme plays during the battle against Jenova Yes Maus only in the first phase

Aerith theme does play in the boss fight wtf are you on about.

they executed it soo bad. Not emotional at all. So so bad executed

What are y talking about? Sepy literally stalked aerith to kill her in another world. He tricked cloud with an illusion of aerith. He LAUGHED at her death which admittedly he didn’t do in the OG (I don’t think). And his face when the camera shows him reeling back his sword…with blood. It’s like he truly containing his happiness at what he just done. He seems me overjoyed at what has happened; he literally repeated destiny against his hated foes and is done step closer to his goal. Sephiroth mind you is also different from the OG; he knows what’s suppose to happen and at this point has increased his power and has cloud in an even worse shape. Later on as the fight drags on, you see sephiroth for the first time telling aerith “I underestimated you.” It’s certainly not cloud because he still needs cloud to do exactly what he woulda done in OG, he hadn’t done that at all during their solo battles to cloud, it’s aerith-his look is f one of happiness, it’s surprise contemplation, annoyance, and hate. But he knows he’ll be back . The war with aerith for the souls continues on.

He came across as a horror villain in the og, and now he comes across as a villain from ** boruto!!

Yeah the scene seems really weird, unlike the OG that she literally died and cloud was broken so much.. really annoyed by those ghosts..

And not get to see the stabbing either. It's part of what adds to the scene.

I think it's because it's through his POV and he is delusional in thinking he saved her. Him crying and the blood everywhere is what the reality is. He still thinks she's alive by the end too. We will probably see the actual scene in the 3rd game.

Which was a clever takeout to me since this is the first time I've seen it. Heartbreaking but a great way to bypass censorship 😆

I actually think Cloud killed Aerith, not Sephiroth. Hear me out... Cloud starts out in front of Aerith. After "deflecting" Sephiroth's attack, he ends up behind her. Implying that maybe he cut through her. There'd be no reason to change positioning if he's deflecting an attack from above. Intentional or not, it seems like he dealt the killing blow. If you look at the Masamune afterwards, it's clean. Blood spills from the right-hand side and it doesn't even touch the Masamune. When Sephiroth picks up the sword, there's blood all over it. Cue the static. This is what Cloud is seeing, or at least thinks is what happened, that being Sephiroth killed Aerith. It's basically the Mandela Effect. It isn't just Cloud. Tifa and Zack suffer from this, too. Of course, in Cloud's case, it's much worse. He continues to lose his grasp on reality. Sephiroth even taunts him later asking if any of this is real. When everyone saw Aerith on the floor, they all thought Sephiroth killed her. I mean, why wouldn't they? However, Tifa's perspective kept shifting. Cue the static, again. She sees Cloud consoling Aerith, but then sees him covered in blood. His gloves, rather. Why the pool of blood was missing depending on the perspective is beyond me. In any case, no one else sees this. Except Tifa. I'm sure it'll be a key point in the third game, which has to be called Reunion. The game should've had two endings. Seems like a missed opportunity to have a QTE for such an important part of the story only for there to be one result regardless of how you do. You complete the QTE successfully, Aerith lives. You fail the QTE, Aerith dies. That's how I would've gone about it. They could deem which ending is canon and continue the story based on that.

I read yours so I hope you do the same Aerith death scene When Cloud reaches Aerith watch as he walks through the whispers, pay attention, it’s like he is walking into two worlds, do you see how it flashes, new world, OG world. When Cloud reaches Aerith and the camera angle looks down at Aerith, pause, zoom in, her hair tie is pink. Watch as Aerith is opening her eyes as the feather falls, look at the color of her hair tie it’s purple. New world: Look at Cloud sword when he screams, “NO” also it looks like he went into a different world at that moment, you see a rainbow of light going up his sword and it’s glows green and you can see a green mist coming from his sword, it reminds me of what Rosa did to Alphreid sword during his fight in the loveless play. Watch as Cloud deflects Sephiroth sword you see rainbows like in the church and sleepy forest, remember the white whispers were with Aerith before her death. Watch how Sephiroth sword landed, it lands straight up. Cloud saves Aerith. Look at Aerith hair tie, it’s pink and it flashes back to the OG as the camera shows the Sephiroth sword, look at the angle of his sword, it is sideways, Aerith falls to her death, her purple hair tie falls out of her hair. Aerith hair tie, OG world it’s purple and pink in the new world? Cloud runs and holds Aerith body, you see flashes back and forth to the OG world she dies, he has tears and muttering words. OG world. As the others run, Tifa stops in her tracks, not because of Aerith’s death, it’s because she sees blood and no blood she doesn’t understand what is happening but she was in the lifestream. New world: Cloud lays Aerith on her back and he tells her I got this, look at the others they are standing still, not moving. OG world, pay attention. As Tifa runs towards Aerith she is laying on her side, remember Cloud lays on her back in the new world. As soon as you see Cloud boot, pause, zoom in, you still see Aerith laying on her side. New world: As Cloud approached Aerith is once again laying on her back, the whispers are flying around, Cloud walks through the whispers and the others disappear, he asks Aerith to wake up she does.

​@@vaasmontenegro3728yess!!the stabbed aerith have purple tie but the aerith that was saved had pink hair tie!!

​@@vaasmontenegro3728yess!!the stabbed aerith have purple tie but the aerith that was saved had pink hair tie!!

I think they did a great job re opening the old wound us players got in 97

Yeah, they did everything perfectly, they managed to make her death surprising with all the "will we be able to save Aerith?" Marketing and this fake-out, and everything was going extremely well, untill they decided to throw the whole Zack and Cloud + Aerith's ghost vs Sephiroth Multiverse spectacle that completely fucked the scene. They should've kept things minimalistical and faithful as possible to the original in this moment even with the Cloud denial thing, even if it meant ending the game without an epic final boss, i doubt that people would be mad at it considering her death, everything would end in a less convoluted and more dark way.

If Aeris lived, we wouldn’t have the Advent Children timeline lol

I actually think they did an incomprehensibly bad job here. It’s kind of a fake out, but it’s also kind of not. Signs point to her actually still being alive in some alternate universe, and you have no time to mourn Aerith, because immediately after her “death” there’s a 10 phase boss battle. They honestly just said “how can we kill Aerith, and not kill Aerith” and went with that.

It was brilliant, I thought she was gonna be saved

Pretty much, all they do is convolute the story when the story is the same (at this point).

Rather than saying she's definitely dead like in the original, it seems like she's foreshadowing nuances such as being alive in a different universe or something like that. I guess we'll only find out once the final work comes out, but I'll still have to wait and see.

Presumably because they're integrating this into Cloud's impending breakdown at the Northern Crater, by showcasing that Cloud is repressing his memories of what actually happened here with Aerith the same way he previously did with Zack.

@@krkr120 And that’s what takes away from her death, knowing there’s another version of her alive and well. Classic multiverse crap that weakens any characters story.

@@incendiesproductions I understand the story from the original but you'd have no idea of what that was supposed to be without playing Final Fantasy 7 OG. I guess it makes sense when you look at the first installment in how it took pretty consistent plot points that were conveyed well in the original and stretched them out while also having the weird plot ghosts for no reason. Its like it can't choose whether it is a sequel or remake. You've played through the first game but to someone who hasn't, this is just a mess. I would find it hard to see what is left to wonder about for the next game unless I know about the events at the end of the original game.

And Sakaguchi was the one who almost bankrupt Square did you forget about that part??

They already said they are connecting it to AC

Multiverse is very profitable. They can create any story line, just slap the FF7 logo on it and people will buy it. No need to keep creating brand new story for just one game every time. Just take a look at the Spider-Man series.

It's already a sequel to advent children homie lol , remake is a sequel to all the ff7 and spinoff came before

@@ryanmadej6694they did confirmed but Kitase confirmed the third game isn’t going to be the same as AC. "The overall storyline, the developments, will not go wildly out in a way that will not add up to Advent Children in the end, I don't think anyone wanted that; that's not what we're looking to create here.”

First Denial, Then Revelation

I agree with you 💯, but I thought the white materia was to cast holy, and in the end holy didn't stop comet so the souls of the planet stepped in. That's actually one change that makes more sense I think, the white materia being white and black materia being black

No

@@moatezmoussi9751 you know why, over the top boss fight, just simply she died and you gotta deal with it

​@@zodlord5669xD

I wish we saw a 4K version of that implemented. Ok, you can do the whole Cloud. He thinks he saved Aerith . But recreate that Iconic moment in 4k when he snaps back to reality

And the news just bull shit !!!

Stil same but different taste i think

yep blame nomura

Yep

The 1997 version of the scene is still a masterpiece, one of the greatest in video game history, but they had a chance to make it better, and they blew it bid time.

What? I think the new one was amazing, we already knew aerith will die, the new one just shows how fucked up cloud mind was, its making him go even crazier

this scene was super confusing and terribly executed

@@absi49this scene? More like the entire goddamn game

After how terrible the last 30min of the last game was I knew they'd do it again. OG 100x better, polygons included. Rip

@@Dsnipa26 seriously. The current games are so slow paced, have stupid plots, and has repetitive ass combat. The old game might have looked ugly but it did literally EVERYTHING better aside from graphics. Whoever wrote the script for the new FF7 remake games and decided to deviate from the original game needs to seriously be sent to a North Korean prison for ruining massive potential.

Expect a Kingdom Hearts convulsed storyline, courtesy of Nomura. The original one was from Kazushige Nojima and Yoshinori Kitase, easily better writers than Nomura.

Wait it out... the scene is REALLY well done too in the remake, it plays with your emotions and the expectation that maybe this time she can be saved, plus we are watching this from Cloud PoV, and he is a unrealiable narrator, im pretty confident we will se her death scene for real in the next part, when his mind is fixed :V

@@cosocosoful heavily disagree with you,even people that didnt played the og were confused AF by the way this scene unfolded,it was terribly executed dude.

Cloud in his schizophrenic episode

My friends and I call that "The Nomura Effect." 😐

GOTY Contender. Lol.

@@volkerball85Nomura didn’t direct or write this game

@@pipboysandlightsabers5478 He's listed as "Creative Director" for Rebirth, which means that scenes like these and the themes and presentation therein are under his purview.

My god are you all that stupid? Its pretty clear.. and i still cried..

Creator is a piece of shit, and YT's algo recommends this when searching for general strategy guides for the game. I reported for terrorism, hope you get demonetized dickhead

Also Sephiroth talks way to much. In the OG Sephiroth never just showed up and started monologuing.

it feels like it has no emotion cause there's a whole sequence before her death thats pretty sad and emotional, i think thats where all the emotion went

@@Nammjahtan "In the OG Sephiroth never just showed up and started monologuing." He did exactly that at the Temple of the Ancients and Aerith's death scene. Monologuing is something evil villains tend to do. I agree that Sephiroth appears far too often in Rebirth, but thankfully most of his appearances are brief.

@@jamesgravil9162 That was more an actual conversation then a monologue. Remember Sephiroth knows Cloud. Also I may have given the wrong impression with my prior comment that I in some way thought Sephiroth never talked at all. That was not my intent. As for Sephiroth appearing to much I have to agree. When in Remake Sephiroth showed up in the first 20 minutes I knew I was not going to like some of the changes SquEnix made.

The remake is devoid of a LOT of what made the original game so special, if we're being completely honest. It's made me dread the prospect of a FF6 remake, when at one point, I was practically praying for one. 🤷‍♂

Pretty sure that's how they are just portraying Cloud's fractured mind. Zack's timeline and Aerith are just in his head.

They got post trauma

​@@alexc.7375true

​@@alexc.7375 dude, Zack's timeline and Aerith being in Cloud's head makes it even more depressing and messed up

​@@alexc.7375more like the entire remake trilogy is to explain why he kept seeing aerith in advent children. He really did save her in one of the timelines, then when the timelines merged only he can see the aerith he saved.

Or as I like to call it. He did a Sonic and The Black Knight Reference by wanting to make an Eternal Timeline (Eternity). A true FINAL FANTASY (7)

@@mettatonneoex That means he can now rewrite any failures. If Sephiroth fail he can switch the realities/possibilities where he succeed on the spot. Like UNO reverse card. Even scarier at will.

@@user-gh6qh6xt7z basically Maruki's Reality from Persona 5 Royal but there is no illusion. It's all there

😂

No she's dead. The Zipzap thingy is to show the perspective or vision of reality and illusion. Cloud had fake identity since the beginning of the game and he was pretty much living in illusion. The Jenova cells in him causes that. Aerith being alive is the vision of Cloud who is still in delusion. Aerith being dead is the vision of reality, what everyone else besides Cloud sees

Denial

Yeah it’s a sad world we live in. People don’t want to be surprised anymore

Report him, I did!

Luckily avoided all spoilers

The dellusion make the story more depresing

@@Ga-Bo-Ot Especially considering where we know the next game is going to open up...

Copes

​@@LuFlame-id7jeReal Fans know that people can have other opinions

@@066kshitizvsingh4 this is the internet where “real fan” means being a zealot. You can’t have different opinions on here

Anything for fucking views. Fucking piece of shit.

Did you know, Evangelion had come out at the time, because Hideki Anno was disillusioned and believed kids needed to learn lessons on life death and depression early on. There was also The Land Before Time, The Lion King, etc... The lessons for kids taught in the original was of life, loss and doing what needs to be done. The Remake now they can say naughty rated R words, yet can't stick to the point, life and loss, it's very very strange, because kids movies and FF7 were doing this, and Remake seems like it can't find it's footing as to its demographic. I agree with Anno, kids need to be exposed to and understand pain and suffering early on, and through entertainment, it helps as a mechanism of emotional and spiritual reflection. So, with that said, we can see that Rebirth is pretty bad and feels like cheap fanfiction, but the pretty high budget graphics can hypnotize is for a little while

@astrahcat1212 On the contrary, they're going be to exploring a deeper understanding of grief. There is a reason why Cloud's dialogue was omitted, there's a reason why we couldn't see Cloud lowering Aerith down the pool. A reason why that her death didnt affect him at all... and most importantly why it didnt affect US. Cloud is 100% in denial bro. Capital "D" Dabda of the 5 stages of grief. We arent sad the same way he isnt, we thought she didnt die. In the OG we were simply the audience. In Rebirth, we might just quite literally be Cloud. We will get all those sappy montages, that Nubuo Uematsu original sadness inducing music, the real event that took place in that forgotten capital in a scene or event in part 3 that Cloud will finally capital "A" Accept that truth of her death. Exploring the underrated side to grief almost never touched upon in Videogame media. Hopefully anyway as it happens I have an Omori pfp lmao, its coincidence trust me

@@xestalfer5774 I understand where you come from. To display Cloud's denial by making him still see Aerith after her death is pretty interesting way to explore his grief. The problem is all the other convoluted aspects that are mixed in this. The alternate universes, the ghosts, like what exactly do these things add to this moment; hell, what do they add to the overall theme of the story? Just confusion? We might eventually get a decent explanation for this but for me it really dilutes what the game is trying to say. And if the devs are indeed planning to add the "sappy" moments down the road, then that would be terrible storytelling imo. THIS is the moment where grief is felt at its most intense, it's the moment where we see the impact of her death by watching how the other characters react to it. It's what makes this moment so emblematic.

@cordata008 I believe plot ghosts couldve been better implemented. For me, the decision to remake ff7 to not be 1 for 1 is the devs intention to celebrate it with the veteran fans and not just newcomers. By the end of remake veterans have this intrigue that Aerith might live (for better or worse, but the point is her fate being not so conclusive) so instead of a 1 for 1 remake where veterans alredy the accepts the fact. They instead relive the ptsd in real time, vets and newcomers included. But again the plot ghosts couldve been executed much better. They have evidently made the forgotten capital part into an "event" or "plot device". Because for the longest time even for fans, that whole sequence stuck with them. You see her pose and the background and the OG cutscene and you go "Yoo! Its the thing! He's doing the thing!" you remember the scene as both the shock of killing *and* the sad death itself. So its hard to be sad as someone who's alredy seen it before. So I think its good that they separate the killing part and the grief part. The real exploration of grief, wherein everyone gets to react to it is later on the 3rd game, where its all going to be built up much better maybe to the point of hammering it in your face (provided it is executed well) If it is true that Advent Children connects to Remake trilogy then Cloud being so emo by AC would transition much better if that impact he had was all towards the end. Because originally, it was FF7, then she dies, he moseys, pretty much snowboarded and move on but then he all of the sudden acted like he never moved on from her death by AC So i say let them cook This might all just be copium on my part but either this is the final approach of a long build up or this is the only realistic way to salvage it, after thinking long and hard about it

@@xestalfer5774 I'm with you. I'm not against a retelling of the OG story. I remember listening/reading a comment made by Nomura (I think) saying that he wondered whether killing Aerith off was the right choice. A game focusing on that idea would be very, very interesting to me and I believe that's the direction they are going with the remake. But they way they are going about it is not sitting well with me. It's as if they want to keep the OG's story but then they add all these elements that complicate the story without improving it. Like think about it; you "get shocked" by these new plot twists ONLY if you have played the OG. Otherwise it's just a confusing mess. Remake just doesn't deviate enough from the original to stand on its own feet. "its hard to be sad as someone who's alredy seen it before" to you perhaps LOL. I still get misty eyed when I replay that part heh. Speaking of which, I had forgotten about the devs' intentions to connect Cloud's grief in AC with the original. If they intend to leave Cloud heartbroken and lost at then end of the trilogy; well, that doesn't sound like a satisfying end for Cloud (and Tifa) story arc, don't you think? Even worse, the ending might feel incomplete since the "real" resolution of the game is in the movie. I'm being a bit too pessimistic perhaps but after seeing what they have done so far, I'm unsure they will deliver a good story (still curious tho!)

Almost. "The ship. Out of danger?"

"You still owe me a pizza"

This is why you stay off youtube when a game you like comes out, at least til you finish it. Sucks but that's the only way now.

@@kiriseraph9674 RU-vid should do something about this, like let you hide spoilers. Or even block for posting spoilers for 1 month or something, I would report this video for attention and spoiling people if I could but you can’t report something for spoiling you.

Hope she comes back & marries Cloud 😢

Then stop complaining geez.

I was asking the same question, too. I don't know what's going on. We better wait for part 3.

She is dead in the main world but alive in zack's, we will have to wait for part 3

@@mikelobito1541 How do we know she's alive in Zack's? Doesn't the intermission dlc confirm she isn't their either?

because cloud is deluded and is not accepting reality, you can when tifa is running in you see the blood that's there but it cloud's mind there's no blood because he saved her

​@fleeplayTV I think it's more so a 3d Modelling problem

You should have paid more maybe then aerith would still be alive

Whispers are uselesss

Except, this isn't apparently Nomura's work

You clearly don't understand how a project like this is created.@@danielgeronimo5538

​@@davidqi5608More like you don't understand how a project like this is created. Because if you do, you won't be blaming Nomura. His vision might be a mixbag, but it wasn't him that pushed this garbage of a route. Try and understand that a game has multiple directors before you lecture me about not being able to understand project such as this

"Come to think of it, No Promises to Keep in some ways also means that "we didn't promise you we'd save Aerith in Part 2 this time"." Wow. Can't believe I didn't think of that.

Mostly this scene just made me feel like Tetsuya Nomura needs to get back on his ADHD meds.

"I think they'd do something about it and give players a truly good ending in the 3rd part. I certainly hope so. Aerith and Zack both went through too much as pure, uplifting, and likable characters as they are." Thereby undermining the themes of loss and sacrifice that the original story did so well.