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AFL SHOCKING Umpire Decisions That Cost Teams the Game 

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@Mikey-we5dw
@Mikey-we5dw Год назад
The siren gate incident was literally ‘the bell doesn’t dismiss you, I do’
@RomanTorchic
@RomanTorchic Год назад
Somehow didn’t end up making a difference tho
@henrywinspear3951
@henrywinspear3951 Год назад
Fax
@LucUltraRWB
@LucUltraRWB Год назад
Ikr. Even as a saints fan that’s hilariously bad
@ThomasSmith-cy7dx
@ThomasSmith-cy7dx 9 месяцев назад
LMAO its also like could you please repeat that
@jeffdabmoose
@jeffdabmoose Год назад
Anyone here after Ben Keays goal was counted as a point.
@Bubba__Sawyer
@Bubba__Sawyer Год назад
Eh, it was easy to miss the high on Dawson. Most folks weren't aware of it until seeing the slo-mo replay. As a Pies fan, I'll take it after the umpiring we copped in the last Crows game over in Adelaide.
@davidpage9330
@davidpage9330 Год назад
30 Seconds earlier a head high on Markov was missed... pay that free and the ball would never have gone back to the crows forward line
@coolcollections
@coolcollections Год назад
One that everyone seems to have forgotten but will always plague me is the elimination final at Adelaide Oval between Port Adelaide and West Coast in 2017 I’m pretty sure. Shuey lifted his arm, clearly not a high tackle but still paid and West Coast won because of the unfair kick after the siren. Affected the finals (port would’ve been knocked out in semis anyway but either way)
@arnolddavies6734
@arnolddavies6734 Год назад
Yeah, I remembered that. BS free kick after the siren to West Coast. Happily, they got thrashed the week after by GWS.
@acidicshow5258
@acidicshow5258 Год назад
i'm still baffled that bringing in more field umpires for more eyes on the play, yet they still claim having a "restricted view"
@christopherharvie8716
@christopherharvie8716 Год назад
I was at the Richmond Hawthorn game yesterday, as a neutral. They missed pushes and blocks in marking contests all day and the 4th field umpire generally sat away from play officiating grass. Australian football is the only code of footy where there are no sideline officials who can assist the main umpire/s. Go back to 2 umpires and allow boundary umpires able to make calls missed by the central umpires.
@jamiehoward7478
@jamiehoward7478 Год назад
One decision doesn't make or break a game - it's just the timing that makes you think of it.
@buttahfly
@buttahfly 5 месяцев назад
exactlyyy like when there's a 'game winning goal' at full time but all the goals scored before are also the game winning goal.
@thetarotbogan
@thetarotbogan Год назад
Missed out on the 2002 Grand final, where they called Anthony Rocca's goal a point. They changed the goal posts because of it.
@thetarotbogan
@thetarotbogan Год назад
It was a goal any day of the week
@Podgorski37
@Podgorski37 Год назад
​@@thetarotboganI bet you say Maynard was blocked too
@svejIebw
@svejIebw Год назад
@@Podgorski37I mean that’s not really a good comeback… he literally was blocked
@Podgorski37
@Podgorski37 Год назад
@jdyce1998 no, he wasnt. This has been confirmed time and time again and only salty Lollingwood fans believe this
@svejIebw
@svejIebw Год назад
@@Podgorski37 lol ‘this has been confirmed’. Watch the footage mate. You are a joke.
@jmilne5751
@jmilne5751 Год назад
Surely now with ear pieces, the umpires will NEVER miss a final siren again!!!
@rancidsteve9689
@rancidsteve9689 6 месяцев назад
Big Tommy Hawkins, the Tomahawk he's called sometimes.
@flairfooty
@flairfooty 6 месяцев назад
Big time player!
@wetbrowniie
@wetbrowniie Год назад
great video bro keep it up
@harrisonfischer5133
@harrisonfischer5133 Год назад
you missed a 2005 incident the afl admited was a mistake when dean solomon's shot on goal for essendon touched by hawthorns jonhathan hay was called a goal giving essendon a two point win instead of a 3 point win to hawthorn.
@lachlanpermezel1629
@lachlanpermezel1629 Год назад
the carlton vs collingwood walsh getting taken high just prior to the siren for a shot on goal cost Carlton a spot in the finals
@kurn2505
@kurn2505 Год назад
Saints got a crap FK for "abuse" against Darren Milburn in 2009. It was in the square...
@TrevorDaniela
@TrevorDaniela Год назад
Might need an update after tonight’s howler
@mikeytreg1081
@mikeytreg1081 Год назад
Even Collingwood vs Port, Sidebottom completely chopped the arms of Farrell, I think that was bad
@pete89111
@pete89111 Год назад
Another reason I've lost interest in the AFL, along with the unbalanced fixture
@natevincent9027
@natevincent9027 Год назад
Dogs 97 prelim Libbas goal called a point
@User-7.7771
@User-7.7771 Год назад
Rd10 2021 Adelaide vs Melbourne
@Tosicc567
@Tosicc567 Год назад
The afl is so far behind with lack of in game reviews. I get ones in free flowing play cant be changed but the first two its pretty easy to overturn, just another way the afl is behind similar to their score review cameras being 480p at 10fps lol
@BillyBowlster
@BillyBowlster Год назад
Billion dollar industry and they can't even afford proper cameras, i seen a behind called when the tape around the goal posts weren't stuck on properly, the game is a laughing stock.
@Tosicc567
@Tosicc567 Год назад
@@BillyBowlster bruh they could just strap samsung phones to the posts they have like 480fps slowmo modes, fully dont understand why its so hard for them to upgrade
@dimetime0
@dimetime0 Год назад
Could have had a whole video on Sydney at the SCG including kicking the ball out of bounds after the siren against Richmond, the ball travelling over 15 but play on against cats and Rampe climbing the goal post against Essendon.
@christopherharvie8716
@christopherharvie8716 Год назад
Is this the same side that constantly sits the the bottom three for free kick differential? With incident after the siren the kick away is paid as 50 for time wasting. How can it be time wasting if the siren has sounded?
@Swizzy-D
@Swizzy-D Год назад
The non 15m call that Jezza marked was a square up for the Zac Bailey tackle non call the week prior. It was bad karma
@tr1p1ea
@tr1p1ea Год назад
The first one, Zorko brings down Atkins without the ball, both arms around the waist tackling to the ground. Geelong should have won by an extra point.
@petefumberger5225
@petefumberger5225 5 месяцев назад
It wouldn't have mattered if Rooke hadn't kicked that goal after the siren. If a point had been awarded instead of a goal after Hawkin's hitting the post, Geelong would have won by 1 point. It's really just simple mathematics.
@camerontrompf5602
@camerontrompf5602 Год назад
I will never forget the umpires handing Adelaide the game against Fitzroy in 91 with rubbish free kick after rubbish free kick in the last 2 minutes of the game. Watch here ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-WTc_Qbgbvwk.html
@BenTobitt
@BenTobitt 2 месяца назад
AfL umpires literally think they are more important than the game. Watch: Players are more important than umpires. You can play a game without umpires, but you can't play without players.
@samgregg7235
@samgregg7235 Год назад
I love people crying about the high hit not called for a pies win, as if the worst umpiring on planet earth still didn't get Adelaide over the line earlier in the season. What goes around comes around, the only difference is the pies win anyway 😅
@stevemurrell6167
@stevemurrell6167 Год назад
The entire umpiring effort in the 2016 GF.....Swans absolutely shafted to deliver an AFL sanctioned Victorian fairytale.
@thesecretwombat056
@thesecretwombat056 Год назад
including the adaleide collingwood game is crazy considering the amount of goals the umpires cost Collingwood😅
@beasts4life_99
@beasts4life_99 Год назад
To be honest umpiring has gotten so bad these days that it may as well be at the point that every game is going to have one. Other calls I reckon should have been included was the block in the 2018 grand final when Dom Sheed marked the ball and also Dane Rampe deliberately climbing and shaking the post as well as the 2019 ANZAC day game
@Khamix
@Khamix Год назад
Why is Tom hawkins the thumbnail he’s the biggest flop for free kicks
@wlsmojo
@wlsmojo Год назад
What about Melbourne versus Adelaide round 10 2021. The most blatant deliberate out of bounds. And they never called it.
@Podgorski37
@Podgorski37 Год назад
There are still people to this day claiming the ball deflected off Spargo. Literal slow motion footage confirms it didn't touch a Melbourne player and so did umpires when they admitted error
@henrywinspear3951
@henrywinspear3951 Год назад
Great vid but you missed 1, round 7 2021 Sydney v Geelong when the umpire payed not 15 when Cameron marked it I think that was controversial
@Swizzy-D
@Swizzy-D Год назад
Was complete bulls##t but it was a square up from the Zac Bailey non call the week prior. Bad karma hit us
@ethanfriedburgars2566
@ethanfriedburgars2566 Год назад
You thought the crows got robbed then
@kovaci0000007
@kovaci0000007 Год назад
You could literally put the whole 2016 GF in here, the most rigged game in AFL history to the point where the AFL had to come out and apologise
@Zakariyyahyland2007
@Zakariyyahyland2007 Год назад
I was literally gonna say that man, so glad u feel me!!!
@notamoron2246
@notamoron2246 Год назад
In regard to the first one there is such a thing as having to have prior opportunity.
@Justanormalkidcr7
@Justanormalkidcr7 Год назад
That's dumb😮
@GiggleGroup
@GiggleGroup 4 месяца назад
Mate how on earth can you describe Daniher's mark in the opening game an 'unbelievable pack mark' ? You need to watch more footy or stop overstating standard marks in footy. Or perhaps believe more things. lol.
@flairfooty
@flairfooty 4 месяца назад
Wow mate, I guess I’m just more of a skeptic than you are perhaps. Or maybe perhaps when close games come down to the last minute you’d consider a pack mark with 3 opposition players around you to be somewhat ‘unbelievable’. Anyway, it’s just an adjective mate, don’t get too hung up on a single word some guy uses on a RU-vid video. Cheers for the engagement 😂 and keep on giggling.
@GiggleGroup
@GiggleGroup 4 месяца назад
@@flairfooty ok love you
@flairfooty
@flairfooty 4 месяца назад
@@GiggleGroup 💖🕺💃😘
@Toastroony
@Toastroony Год назад
Dawson shouldn’t have gotten the free anyway
@titambros1927
@titambros1927 Год назад
No free for a high? You must be joking!
@toxicpoison-j8t
@toxicpoison-j8t Год назад
karma fo rd7
@maxshiraz3447
@maxshiraz3447 Год назад
In the 2009 GF, don't forget that Geelong won by 12 points, and that StK got a dodgy free in front of goal without the ball going back to the centre just before half-time, which was complete BS. So the Hawkins goal had no effect on the result
@robmeagher2443
@robmeagher2443 Год назад
Good video but you missed several thousand
@flairfooty
@flairfooty Год назад
Had to cut it down a bit 😅
@Tommate03
@Tommate03 Год назад
Dawsons no call was karma for rd7 Murphy was hit in the face which caused blood and a concussion no free kick Johnson had his head just about ripped off also a none free kick
@notamoron2246
@notamoron2246 Год назад
Funny how you missed the first final last year when Lynch kicked a goal in the last couple of minutes that was overturned. If the umpire "thinks it's a goal" then there must be positive evidence that it wasn't for the decision to be overturned. There was no evidence whatsoever.
@JoshPower-vb1uk
@JoshPower-vb1uk Год назад
You could see it go over mate
@notamoron2246
@notamoron2246 Год назад
@@JoshPower-vb1uk Doesn't matter *mate*. The goal umpire said he thought it was a goal and there was no clear evidence to overturn that observation.
@Toastroony
@Toastroony Год назад
Saints should have won 2009 granny
@McZoltanOnline
@McZoltanOnline Год назад
I’d be interested to hear the argument here. Why should they have won?
@Toastroony
@Toastroony Год назад
@@McZoltanOnline cuz I am biased and wanted them to win but also that goal being a behind could have changed how both teams played and changed the score
@McZoltanOnline
@McZoltanOnline Год назад
@@Toastroony 100% agree that game would have been different, but it was too early in the game to be used as a factor that determined the outcome.
@Toastroony
@Toastroony Год назад
@@McZoltanOnline But you could argue since it was early a lot could have changed if that was a behind and could have heavily affected a lot of the game
@McZoltanOnline
@McZoltanOnline Год назад
@@Toastroony definitely and that’s the same point I made. Anything could have happened, which is why I wanted you to elaborate on your initial comment that the Saints should have won the GF.
@bennuballbags2
@bennuballbags2 Год назад
Geelong get every important decision their way, its fucking disgusting,,,,,last night the balll was out on the full by a meter kicked by a Geelong player and mark by another and yet the mark was paid. I hate Geelong for this FACT, they are favoured severely by the umpires at the right time....usually in their forward pocket.
@Yitzzz
@Yitzzz Год назад
To be fair on the umps, as a crows fan, i didnt know that Dawson had been taken high until i saw the replay of it. it happened really fast.
@itsWAHOO2012
@itsWAHOO2012 Год назад
Pretty obvious to me (neutral supporter) and the fact there’s four umpires and not one saw it happen is pretty terrible of you ask me
@rangatank93
@rangatank93 Год назад
I agree, the video maker also ignores the game these two teams played at AO where there were many non-calls that restricted the Pies to only win by 1 point. E.g. Johnson's high contact in the forward goal square and clear front on high contact on Murphy, these occurred in the 4th quarter.
@Yitzzz
@Yitzzz Год назад
@@itsWAHOO2012 true, one of them should've definitely seen it.i suppose i might have missed it because i was so stressed out.
@Driftty
@Driftty Год назад
Same with me but when I found out I was outraged
@jerrysmith8762
@jerrysmith8762 Год назад
​@@rangatank93but dud you read the bit about when it cost them the game ? Last I saw Collingwood won horrendous umpiring aside 😊
@richardbehan8118
@richardbehan8118 Год назад
Only 9 minutes? This video could have easily gone for a few hours.
@jbone69
@jbone69 Год назад
That Zac Bailey call will live rent free in my head forever
@thetravellershub
@thetravellershub Год назад
Still makes my blood boil. Luckily we pumped them later on that year
@darrenmiles-morland8038
@darrenmiles-morland8038 Год назад
@@thetravellershub Have you forgotten the results from the 2020 and the 2022 Preliminary Finals when the stakes were at their highest?
@tr1p1ea
@tr1p1ea Год назад
Zorko brings down Atkins without the ball, both arms around the waist tackling to the ground. Geelong should have won by an extra point.
@foxtrot_in_socks1589
@foxtrot_in_socks1589 Год назад
​@@tr1p1eathe head of umpiring literally said that Bailey should have received the free kick. You're clearly clueless.
@thetravellershub
@thetravellershub Год назад
@@darrenmiles-morland8038 we deserved to lose those games, just like Geelong have also lost finals lol. In those games the win wasn’t robbed from us by terrible umpiring which was the whole point of this video so whatever point you’re trying to make is irrelevant
@kossend1
@kossend1 Год назад
The Sirengate example was shocking onfield umpiring, but it was later corrected and didn't cost anyone anything. Still glad you included it.
@flairfooty
@flairfooty Год назад
It was too interesting not to include imo
@whatlez
@whatlez Год назад
Without watching, this should be the highlights of Matthews Nichols
@TotalDramaOwenandNoah
@TotalDramaOwenandNoah 5 месяцев назад
anyone here after the Fremantle vs Carlton game? Unbelievable.
@juleneyoung5053
@juleneyoung5053 Год назад
1979 , not 1 umpire heard the Siren , but the commentary team did !! but then the # 1 ticket holder that year WAS the Victorian Chief of Police so ….. 😅
@brownie_0555
@brownie_0555 Год назад
whole 2016 grand final
@klokar21
@klokar21 7 месяцев назад
St Kilda never had a chance to win 09, even if Hawkins goal was called a point, Geelong still win by 7. In 2010 though St Kilda got kissed on the knob by the umpires against Geelong when the umpires called Cam Mooneys fair tackle a push in the back when it should have been a free kick awarded to Cam.
@noah-k3v
@noah-k3v Год назад
Funny you mention that Dawson free kick, when earlier in the 4th quarter Tex kicked a goal from a throw from Rankine that wasn’t called
@FabDino
@FabDino Год назад
Cherry picking
@jessefyfe9249
@jessefyfe9249 Год назад
There are bigger deal free kicks throw vs handball is often not seen many times a game youd only ever see it in slow mo most of the time clobbering someone is a lil different
@jessefyfe9249
@jessefyfe9249 Год назад
Like the list isn’t every time a umpire missed a single call it’s the worst example of teams being fucked over
@svejIebw
@svejIebw Год назад
@@FabDinohahaha that’s literally the point of the video mate. Picking the moments that determine a game
@Championproductionz
@Championproductionz Год назад
Port vs Collingwood
@TheCorzaHD
@TheCorzaHD Год назад
gonna need an update from this week alone
@flairfooty
@flairfooty Год назад
😂
@davepascoe6093
@davepascoe6093 Год назад
Strange how no-one ever mentions the Sharod Wellingham "goal" in the 2011 Grand Final that hit the post and was the one that lead to review being instigated by the league
@christopherharvie8716
@christopherharvie8716 Год назад
I thought it was the one that thwacked into the goal post that was awarded to Hawkins… Where the conversation started was Libba’s non goal in the 1997 prelim. I was right behind the goal, neutral observer, it was a goal.
@cjbaker55
@cjbaker55 3 месяца назад
1. Missed HTB - evade 2. Missed HC (ump blindsided) 3. Incorrect goal umpire decision 4. Field umpires acted correctly, timekeeper acted incorrectly
@alansimmonds9030
@alansimmonds9030 Год назад
Try non-decisions & omissions of responsibility....Far more culpability involved & implausible deniability.
@Mike...01
@Mike...01 Месяц назад
How come it's all ways non-Victorian teams being screwed over against Victorian teams by the umpires? 🤔
@falconmclenny7284
@falconmclenny7284 Месяц назад
they do have a hard job... That does not excuse incompetence. If I am bad at my job, i get fired, but these flogs are protected.
@surj1023
@surj1023 Год назад
Anthony Rocca's goal in the 2002 GF that was called a behind...
@juleneyoung5053
@juleneyoung5053 Год назад
🖤🤍😊
@Podgorski37
@Podgorski37 Год назад
It was already proven to be a point
@drbongorama
@drbongorama Год назад
Have a cry why don't you? If you can do better, do it. Or accept that humans are fallable, and for every decision that went against a team, there'll be an equally bewildering decision that benefited them. Get over it
@GB-xl4nx
@GB-xl4nx Месяц назад
'mistakes' favouring Victorian teams, hey? What are the odds!!
@blackmoon34785
@blackmoon34785 Год назад
The Jordan Dawson high was just karma from the Murphy incident earlier this year
@slowraceultra
@slowraceultra Год назад
The 2001 preliminary final (Hawks v Essendon) the umpires cheated the Hawks. (I might be a lil biased)
@wizzard5442
@wizzard5442 Год назад
No not biased. Eddie Macguire said the Hawks were crucified by the umpires. I still distinctly remember him saying that on the Footy Show. Furthermore, one of the umpires Darren Goldspink was relegated to emergency umpire on GF day as "punishment". I was there that day. Disgraceful umpiring it was.
@cantbegood7
@cantbegood7 3 месяца назад
There is a different between a poor decision and an absolute muppet brain fade.
@GunbhmnGuinnk
@GunbhmnGuinnk Год назад
Collingwood are biggest cheats in the AFL
@mlpbahs
@mlpbahs Год назад
Where's gws vs Carlton from round 3 this year
@boxxed7616
@boxxed7616 Год назад
Where is the 2018 grand final when Maynard was held? They legit admitted he was held and should have got the free kick, also round 7 against crows had much worst umpiring that almost cost the game
@flairfooty
@flairfooty Год назад
There’s so many instances. I’ll definitely look into making another part on the topic
@Podgorski37
@Podgorski37 Год назад
No one has admitted he was held except salty Collingchoke fans
@doylersafl8728
@doylersafl8728 7 месяцев назад
Here after the grand final 😔
@Zakariyyahyland2007
@Zakariyyahyland2007 Год назад
Part 2 pls
@111jacare
@111jacare Год назад
Another point that the timekeepers fail on is the start of the quarters. It is the bouncing of the ball in the centre circle that starts the time, not the blowing of the whistle prior to the bounce. One of the Crow's 1990's grand finals is a classic example of this failure by the timekeepers.
@arisl2370
@arisl2370 Год назад
Its the cheap free kicks that piss me off the most.. A player gets literally touched a little high resulting in a free kick, while rough conduct goes unnoticed. . The 50 metre penalty is another
@bluesirva3574
@bluesirva3574 Год назад
re. the St. Kilda & Geelong game, the difference would've been 5 points not 6 up for any debate after the siren..
@guavacadoII
@guavacadoII Год назад
Sampi was held 2005 GF. Walker was held 2011 SF. Maynard was blocked 2018 GF.
@BillyBowlster
@BillyBowlster Год назад
Greatest sport on earth ran and officiated by the most inept. That's AFL in a nutshell.
@grinningtaverngaming395
@grinningtaverngaming395 Год назад
Really solid breakdown of the ‘siren’ inciden. Well done.
@steve8510
@steve8510 Год назад
How must St Kilda feel with all these goal reviews and they lost a flag when Hawkins hit the post and was given a goal a few years before they employed the tech. ps: Grub Hawkins celebrating that point to convince the goal umpire when he knew it was a point was pathetic.
@devilwarr1or
@devilwarr1or Год назад
So if sirengate was the 2nd time a games score and result were changed after investigation, what was the first time?
@BG-id2cv
@BG-id2cv Год назад
I think it might have been Round 8 in 1968...Richmond Vs Hawthorn at the MCG. When the siren sounded all scoreboards showed that the game was a draw 11.14 80 a piece. However , the goal umpires conferred in the centre of the ground and it was relayed to the main scoreboard attendant that Richmond's score was in fact 11.15 81. So Richmond won by a point. I was there as a boy and we were all disheartened that the game ended in a draw, but then elated approx. 5 minutes after the siren had sounded, when we found out The Tigers had won by a point.
@michaelgerhardt7130
@michaelgerhardt7130 Год назад
I’m no expert by any means, but isn’t the fist case “incorrect disposal”? It looks like the long hair dude throws or drops the ball just before the lions tackle.
@bass_boy925
@bass_boy925 Год назад
Yea that's the whole point, they should've got the free kick but the umpires incorrectly called play on
@Reginaldinho712
@Reginaldinho712 Год назад
Quite literally the point of the video..
@michaelgerhardt7130
@michaelgerhardt7130 Год назад
@@Reginaldinho712 Is Holding the ball the same as incorrect disposal? I thought they were separate, holding the ball is getting tackled without disposal, while Incorrect disposal is a throw or just letting the ball go. The head of umpiring said holding the ball, - just trying to get the penalty straight.
@aarondonaghue3289
@aarondonaghue3289 Год назад
Love your videos mate !
@flairfooty
@flairfooty Год назад
Appreciate the support Aaron!
@Anarchyontheweb
@Anarchyontheweb Год назад
Collingwood will always be looked after they’re the afl cash cow
@surj1023
@surj1023 Год назад
We've lost 2 grand finals this century to blatant umpiring mistakes.
@juleneyoung5053
@juleneyoung5053 Год назад
@@surj1023too right 😤
@Podgorski37
@Podgorski37 Год назад
​@@surj1023mAyNaRd WaS hElD, right? Umpires didn't cost you a 5 goal lead 😂
@surj1023
@surj1023 Год назад
@@Podgorski37 Had the umpire made the right call, the 5 goal lead would have been enough to still win by a goal.
@Podgorski37
@Podgorski37 Год назад
@surj1023 if you blow a 5 goal lead like that you don't deserve to be premiers. Case in point, Melbourne scoring 16 goals in the 2nd half of 2021 GF
@leighwintershoven971
@leighwintershoven971 Год назад
The Hawkins goal in the 2009 grand final was countered by the double goal St.Kilda got down the other end ten minutes later. Even then, if the goal was counted as a point, Geelong still would've been a point up when the final siren went.
@wizzard5442
@wizzard5442 Год назад
No. If that goal was really a point, Geelong would have had to kick the ball back into play from the goal posts as opposed to it being brought back to the centre. Who's to know how the game would have flowed for the rest of that quarter and the game if it was a kick-in?
@madman928
@madman928 Год назад
What about the 2018 Grand Final with Maynard getting blocked?
@madman928
@madman928 Год назад
@soussy5297 Cap
@thetravellershub
@thetravellershub Год назад
Opened this video to make sure you included that Lions game and was happy to see it was the very first example 🫡 as a Lions fan who lives in Geelong I felt gaslit by my entire town after that fucking game
@grasslipper8856
@grasslipper8856 Год назад
Sam Newman was right in saying they’re MAGGOTS
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