Here's a little TRUE story......about five years ago I fancied a Merc w210 estate, I found 1 for sale l, priced at about £1500,anyway I traveled about 90 miles to see it, private seller, seemed genuine, test drive went ok, noticed 1 rear tire below legal limit(car had travelled 15 miles) since last MOT, anyway got it for £900 in the end, so drive it home, then decided to get it checked over at my local garage as I ALWAYS do when buying from a dealer, so up she went, and then the MOT tester started pointing out the leaks, rusty fuel AND brake pipes etc etc, so anyway quite a long list of MOT failures on a car with a full MOT, so I took it home, rang the guy I bought it off, explained to the seller all the faults, told him I wanted a refund and he told me to "go forth and multiply" but I don't give up so easy, so I rang the garage who motd the car, explained the faults that had been found and the MOT tester uttered 3 words "you've done me" he explained that he'd let the faults go as the customer was a friend who promised he was keeping the car ! I said we've got 2 options , either I report you to VOSA, or you pay for repairs as I actually liked the old Merc, so we agreed on him sending me £600 , and money was received and repairs carried out, the motto of this story is , DON'T BELIEVE EVERYTHING a friend who`s a trader tells you.......
@@markplenty2631 Eh. I would believe the story. I know a garage that does dodgy MOT's for friends. I don't know the owner of the garage personally, it is a friend of a friend deal. But I could probably get a dangerous car through if I wanted. Not that I would. It is pretty easy to find them if you know the right people.
That grey i10 has an interesting MOT history. Rear tyres close to limit at 15K? Clutch thrust bearing noisy at 40K? Rears were close to the limit at 2020 MOT and between then and the 2021 MOT, the car has only covered 2K miles.
Love the ramblings! You give a great insight into why everyone isn't a used car dealer. I'm still reeling over how unfair the VAT you are liable is for even after many months of watching.
‘Dial an MoT’ certainly exists. I bought a VW Vento around ten years ago from a used car lot. They put a fresh ticket on it, and the MoT station was a few miles away. Yet the mileage on the test was identical to when I collected it. The tyres and bushes definitely suggested that the test had been done over the phone…!
I love this channel as only recently come across it and have been watching loads👌🏻 I wish every used car dealer was like you, great job keep up the good work and I’m sure u will hit that milestone mate 👍🏻
I have one of these i10's but a 59 plate. The clutch is operated by a cable that does stretch over time. It might just need tightening a little bit. There's a tiny wheel on the gearbox side you turn that does this. But changing the oil on it will help. My i10 has done 127,000 miles and never had any gearbox or engine issues (apart from a leaking rocker cover gasket).
Stitched up like a kipper we think.............I am very suspicious when a dealer wants to off load a car onto another dealer when potential profit is being thrown away. I agree with the dodgy MOT though, its time to drive it back...
When I was a lot younger I found an early 90s Polo with not MOT for sale. A family friend of mine who was a private dealer offered to pick it up for me and do the work for me to drive it. £300 later the car had passed with a long list of work done to it. I turned up and the car had been hand-painted, springs had been cut and I realised just what I had invested in. I paid for a new set of springs a few weeks later. I drove the car for 3 months and realised that I couldn't rely on it daily. A lad arrived to buy it with intent to use it as his first car, which I advised him wasn't ideal. Him, his Dad and his mate all joined for the test drive. He agreed to take it, with me delivering it a week later as he hadn't even passed his test yet. I didn't make money, but luckily I didn't lose a lot. A month later he messaged me, threatening that I had sold him a heap. He took it to a friend who looked over the car. The Polo should have never passed its MOT as the horn wasn't connected and according to him with a handful of other faults, it was completely corroded underneath. I was annoyed, but realised that I never looked in person at this car, never checked any issues myself and should never have taken this car on, FULL STOP. But, also the MOT tester was clearly not doing a good job and the family friend should have perhaps advised me against the purchase all-round. That car probably could have cost me or someone else their life at some point. Either way, I learned that you should always look at a car before agreeing any price or confirmation of sale. I was too naive to question and just wanted something cool. Sort of unrelated, but it is easy to assume people are being honest and fair. I'm sure you can turn this one round, either way!
I used to only buy from trader's years ago, to be honest I used to always look at stuff will all of them apart from one trader. Most of them didn't even look at the older stuff properly & just make a price up so always a deal to be done. Wouldn't give up on buying direct from the trade as normally can get stuff much cheaper than from auctions. The Renault main dealer I used closed & the good independent retired it was a shock to go back to auctions. Hopefully the new unit comes off .😀👍
I'd ask the guys at the Car Care Centre to go through on a 'Pre MOT' without putting it through the system. If they're harsh on the car, get a list of whats wrong from them, and get it put right.
Though I was subscribed but it appears not! Love the honesty of your videos, I think this is the way RU-vid is going, the masses want truthful real world stuff! Keep it up and I’m sure you’ll get 100k soon. Plus loads of car sales because of it.
The i10 mot is interesting as so many advisories the previous year including worn tyre!! I happen to enjoy your ramblings so carry on with as much content as you can!
The grey i10 is a bit of an enigma- 1 owner, low miles, looks well cared for in some areas but also evidence of negelect and and probably some careless driving by the state of the bodywork! Hope you can give it some cost effective TLC to be able to sell it for a profit. Enjoy the channel and sure it will grow - perhaps you could feature a wider variety of cars if you get your new premises?
Yep MOT doesn’t add up. Had a few cars over the years where the dealer got it MOT’d but I questioned the validity of those with things I found on the car.
That door is a bit nasty but I’m so surprised you did not ask for pictures of all the damage to be sent you, so then there would be less confusion. With regards to mot, I have probably 5 mot centres closer than the one I go to on a regular basis, only because I trust him, I do not think it is about a bit of bribery but more about being a little flexible. Overall you did get it cheaper than you normally would so you have not real lost out if it cost a bit more. Do what you do best, quick turnaround and make a nice little profit, you are very good at that and take it as lesson learned. Great vid as always!!!
That i10 I would advise on those tyres. I would say it's had a wonkey MOT or he has changed the wheels over just for the MOT, which I have seen people do.
@@ChopsGarage The tyres are just legal, so it's a pass - by the book to the minimum standards as set out in the regulations...advisories are discretionary, not mandatory. Testers always go OTT regarding advisories when it comes to traders/dealers to cover their backs from comebacks from dissatisfied customers. It's possible that the testing station didn't know that they were testing a car for a dealer or they might have thrown a few advisories at it, but legally they don't have to. Short of you finding something really dodgy that's been overlooked, I would say that the car has been tested to the minimum standards as set out in the regulations and has passed.
Seems strange how the previous mot from the year before had advisories for rear tyres, then 1 year later and 2000 miles it doesn’t have them 🤔 only thing it could be is that they fitted new tyres and worn them back down again in 2000 miles 😂
I think the dealer has switched those tyres . If it's safe to do so , I'd drive it back to the MOT station , see if they would pass those tyres , and discus the other issues .
If the guy on the black i10 is not happy give him a refund and sell it again. The guy who sold you the grey I10 hasn't been entirely honest with you James, you took his word because you are a true gentleman. Think it's worth the work just going to cut your profit margin. Shouldn't hang around long once you worked your magic.
There’s certainly nothing wrong with your “ramblings” James, and you were right about the i10 needing more than just minor body work……But, your turn it around and it will indeed make a good car on the forecourt. Perhaps not such a huge profit as you would have liked but should result in a satisfying sale. 👍✊
As I’m long out of the trade I feel ok saying what I’m going to say. I’m assuming the seller was another dealer. With our used cars the only stuff we ever blocked or sold on were ‘problem childs’ if the recon costs were viable we’d retail the px ourselves. The scrapes are fair enough but the door is really misdescribed. As you weren’t involved with the MOT you should never assume anything. Either the dealer never looked or drove the car or they misled you. Both options are poor practice. As you’ve never bought from him before and you haven’t even looked at the car you should have offered well below trade value. I suspect it may be he didn’t MOT the car. Perhaps. You wouldn’t”t buy anything from auction sight unseen so hows this different. I”ll bet he’s made at least £250/300 selling it to you having done nothing. Of course i could be wrong which is my bad.
With regard to the i10 3rd gear issue, have you tried changing down to third? which as a rule would work the synchro much harder. It might be that your customer needs to change down from fourth (or fifth ) quickly, say, on a steep climb. Maybe his complaint is a sign of wear on the third gear synchro hub.
With an i10 or similar or next time. you could probably at the new unit need a customer courtesy car , use one like this (with better tyres - prob going to be worth keeping a small tyre / wheel stock and from time to time on some cars sell with new tyres (VAT Margin noted as maybe cheap sale of car and sell tyres separately / commission from a black circles or whatever), and use good part used on courtesy one. Of course make sure that its the other dealer's sticker in the back window and on number plates. (Actually for the new unit - and maybe channel - you are going to need garage name mugs / beer mats / keyrings / window stickers and number plate surrounds) .
I would have a quiet word with the DVSA. The car reminds me of a 10,000 mile 10 year old Suzuki I went to look at once - "careful lady owner" turned out to be over 90 and every panel was dented.
Dealer should've mentioned in more detail of the n/s/r,that's out of order. I've been in the trade for nearly 30 yrs,that much issue/damage needs to be pointed out with ore detail. I feel for ya.
I've had a family member not depressing the clutch fully and the gearbox locking as there words, trying to explain the issue to them once witnessing it is difficult
I use an mot tester I know that is not close to my house not because he let's things pass that shouldn't, but because he takes the time to run through any advisories with me so I know what needs doing when.
Can you cover up that Rover 75 when filming please 😂 I've been hankering for one for ages but keep bailing as I know how much hassle some of the things are to put right on them, but whenever I tune out of your channel after seeing it in the video I'm straight on Autotrader and Gumtree looking at Rover 75 Estates 😂😂 I think the estates are such a good looking car in that gunmetal grey
With regards to your channel and others like it perhaps people are more interested in real life rather than soaps or love island garbage. It's more honest and relatable to the working man . Keep going with your honesty and integrity.
Buy back the black i10 I would say if it returns and the new grey i10, the whole nsr door is dented at top too. Might be cheaper finding a same colour door. You can really hear the grouching sound a lot and that’s definitely a dodgy MOT.
James another thing and proves your point done to the core is If you look at the 2020 Mot you'll see advisories for the rear tyres, and I bet if you get that car on the ramp you'll find those corroded rear coil springs on both sides and it shows an advisory for the rear breaks which are clearly binding
As someone not in the trade. If it was private sale/cheapy car. A minor dent in the door and a few scrapes I can live with (I'll have to show you my Focus) as long as it was mechanically sound and not rusting. As for MOTs. We all have a place we go to for MOT testing. There are some dodgy places, and there are some really anal places. If my tester knows it's a fail on something serious it fails end of but if it's not something adverse it gets noted but they know I'll get it sorted. On the other side of the coin there are drivers who don't give a stuff and are driving with just the middle brake light working etc and kick off when it fails for something as simple as non working bulbs as they don't check anything or they expect a car to just work with no issues. As a trader or if I was selling my car then I would tell the guy buying any quirks or things that might need sorting later. Traders especially as if you have a reputation then you need to maintain that reputation.
First comment from me. Enjoying your videos mate. About that grey i10. Sounds simple to me, firstly he's been slightly economic with the damage details but going by the "bit of bodywork needed" on my own recent purchase you have very minor damage lol. Secondly, he's clearly swapped the original tyres with decent ones to get it through the mot then put back them back on to sell to you. Either that or a "friend" put it through the MOT.
Just watched to the end of the video - got to add. It had quite a few other advisories last year (including the tyres). If any of those other things are still current i.e springs & shocks then it's clearly a dodgy MOT!!. The rear shocks & springs should now be new or as new if they weren't flagged up this time.
Did you check the MOT history before you bought it? MOT August 2020 had advisories relating to tyres, corrosion etc!! Certainly looks like the tyres are the same ones now as only 1946 miles since 2020. Other advisories are also a bit of a worry, in particular, thrust bearing! Looks like your suspicions regarding the current MOT are well-founded!!
It's a possibility, but having a 2nd wheel/tyre set isn't exactly cheap (even used) and on a vehicle that old/cheap, I doubt it would be worth the effort. I do hope that if James decides to deal with that dealer in the future, he is much more careful and really makes sure he drives a good bargain on the basis the dealer has already shown he can't be trusted so what else might he be hiding about a future vehicle.
Gsf have a good deal on brakes at the moment. I got discs and pads all round for about 125 for one of these this week. All four rear caliper slider pins seized solid😡 There are some really shady MOT places about mate, I had one delivered from bca a few weeks ago with a new mot that was knocking like a Jehovah's witness Needed rear shocks, top mounts,drop links and the head gasket was gone shoving more smoke behind it than Fred Dibnahs steam roller.
Cheap discs & pads never go on any of my cars,i got brembo front pads for my 2002 yaris for £26 in a sale from euro car parts,they were good! Got another Yaris now,it's had a 2nd pair of original Toyota front pads last year,it brakes awesome!
MOT testers have different standards. Legally most of it is down to the testers interpretation, example discs, pads and tyres, if its not a fail alot of old skool testers don't advise. I wouldn't buy anything I hadn't seen. Another good 1 to watch 👍. I'd suggest a retest on the grey i10 then assess the car from there. The brake readings off your guy and a second opinion on those tyres would be interesting
If the brakes pass the rolling road test they cannot fail it for having a lip on the disc no matter how big it is they can only fail it if the pads are worn passed the limit allowed
I use to buy and sell cars and in the 1980s I had bought a few cars that what we call I. Stoke Bent m.o.ts you find things that you know would not pass wrong with the car yes their is guys who wtite out m.o.t papers for a few quid for their mate this will never stop.Now I found a great garage in derby had had a stroke the lads picked my car up every year they are fantastic we moved to stoke 35 miles and they stil pick my car up when I need something done just had a tenner on for fuel so yes mate you can take a car away fir m.o.t away fro. Where you live I kniw the garages in stoke each one fail a car on something different so I stick to who I know but yours does seam a bent m.o.t great chanel just love it Phil In stoke
Looking at the MoT checker for that i10, for a low mileage car with full service history it doesn’t give the impression that it has been very well looked after and apparently eats rear tyres.
Check out the MOT prior to the advisory free MOT on that i10. Many advisories including the rear tyres which didn't show up at all at the next one. Yet the rear tyres are old/very low. Dodgy as hell.
I would be thinking more towards clutch on i10, be usually 4th gear ud get a crunch but I’ve seen 3rd before. I’d say it will do it more on a longer drive
when i was in the trade many years ago i always found other traders were always economical with the truth when describing cars to me, hence why i very seldom bought cars off of other traders.
I’d put the car through you guys who do your MOT’s then compare the sheets an reports, then use that as a way of getting some cash back on the car, them tyres looked past there best and I’m looking from as far as Newfoundland Canada !
I was looking to buy a Hyundai i10 but when searching forums I read a lot of people are having gearbox issues with crunching gears. It also seems some Hyundai i30 are having gearbox problems.
That’s rubbish that boys taken you for a ride I assume no more cars from him once bitten and all that ….. The vat nonsense makes dealers not want to fit parts as you quite rightly said so things are back healed it’s great your an honest dealer great content …👍👍 your subs are going up rapidly which is great !
Bit of a lean description on the grey i10 bodywork....but your usual rattle can with a new door will see it right. I'm sure most people have a 'preferred' MOT station when you need a ticket and you know it's going to be marginal. Check the service history cos it might've have been there a lot for service and MOT, don't want to cast aspersions but older owner given the scrapes at the corners who's retiring from driving and 'can you give it a last service and MOT so I can sell it and get a bit of cash back?' Maybe done a loyal, long term customer a favour....
On the grey i20 hes took it in for mot with good tyres then once he got the pass hes stuck on some crappy worn tyres maybe off another i10 he had or had just bought swspping good parts for bad......
One thing I don't like about low mileage cars is tyres are usually quite poor. Either worn because they are the originals (particularly on the rear) and/or heavily cracked/perished due to age Although the public want lower milage so they are a lot better really when selling, but I prefer high mileage cars for myself 👍 Funnily enough out of the 7 cars I looked at recently for myself, the one I ended up buying was the highest mileage at 134k! No history (ouch) but it was cheap and looks well looked after, mainly motorway miles etc. It's been a dream for 1500 miles I've done so far. Don't think I'd have been so lucky if I bought an old low mileage alternative 🤔
Does seem excessively far out to go just for an MOT (tested on September 7th btw) Also, if selling it trade why bother having it tested at all? Like you say, for your own peace of mind it needs testing again to make sure. Or the proper way of doing it is to have an appeal test done... 🤷♂️ The thing with advisories is getting the correct balance between informing the presenter of what they need to know about upcoming defects and covering your own arse. Obviously some don't bother with either, which is their own choice. However an incorrect decision can lead to disciplinary action. Difficult one really, hopefully the low miles will make it worthwhile doing. Take care old chap 👍
I am always wary of advisory free MOT's since I purchased a car without any. If the dealer says something that is not quite correct, alarm bells ring. He told me that it was MOT'd and serviced and greased up underneath ready for the winter. Who greases up a car for the winter, maybe back in 1950 but not in 2011 ? I really needed this car so I drove it home, had it looked at by my usual MOT guy and he said that it would pass but with thirteen advisories ! You being meticulous with all of your prepared cars, it just creates more work for you, but will you fall for this again ?
Report the MOT station to The Driving Standards Agency. They can check the current mileage against the MOT mileage and see if the current state of the car reflects that at the MOT. If they believe that the MOT was false then they can remove his licence and or fine him. This happened to my son with an old Lancia. Corrosion would have failed it and must have been there at the time of the MOT. He was warned and be subject to inspections. Even if you have nothing to gain you owe it to all his other customers.
The MOT on the Grey i10 the year before had quite a few nasty advisories including those rear tyres but also a noisy clutch bearing. rear brakes and rear suspension. If there is no receipts for the repair of the advisories I would assume they are still there, like the worn tyres. Along with the front brakes which you mentioned and all the paintwork required this i10 is going to be a money pit. I would stick a couple of tyres on it and sell as is. Low mileage or not at the end of the day it's still a 2009 i10.
Also you said it had a stamped up service history, looking at the advisories last year, all stuff that would have been picked up at a service, I would assume the service history is as good as the MOT :)
You have to be really careful buying from other dealers I have had a couple of dealers have my paints down on cars!! I now never buy without seeing and driving and some I will check for deleted engine codes, always ask yourself why are they trading it…
