darktennisball ...13% of 50%? ... My assumption is that you are speaking of the subatomic structure of the majority of the known elements! i.e the atom , it's cloud of electrons and the nucleus - where science has led us to believe that the majority of the mass of each atom is made up of 99.94% attributed to the nucleus! That is of course apart from the Hydrogen - 1 atom, which has no nucleus, and not to mention the Hydron Ion which has no electron. God alone knows why! 🎩
Don’t be so fast to judge. Ricky makes some good points, but that doesn’t mean he disproved anything. I’m not saying I believe in the afterlife, but I’m also not saying I don’t believe in it
There's no way you can guarantee she (and the people you talk to who react similarly) missed the point and didn't understand the other viewpoint. It could just be that they disagree and feel like there's no point in arguing further since on some subjects some people are unlikely to reach common ground
I don’t think that’s what’s happening. My interpretation is that she knows there’s no rebuttal there so she gave herself an out by directing the conversation somewhere else, and he lets her. Both displayed emotional intelligence at the end.
I think Ricky just made this character, so he can adress all people that (propably) constantly questions atheism, without having to constantly come with the same responses.
@@mart_en I dont remember. I cant view the original comment that responded to mine. I think it had something to do with Techvis text looking a bit aggressive.
@@Johnsilver813 would you say the same about the renouned scientists or philosophers? I take it that most of them weren't atheists but all of them were seekers right?
@@Johnsilver813 My dear friend, logic and science tells us to think rationally. Don't take just about anything at face value. You have to judge and look into the matter in order to get something out of it. If you have nothing in your hands, you got to start with something as meager as yourself. If you don't even believe in yourself, not one bit it's really unfortunate. But even in that scenario you have to consider that this world or this universe is not a small room. So the chance of you being an absolute loner in some scenario would always tend to zero. And Nietzsche also acknowledged that surviving is finding the truth why you suffered right? You got to find and fight before you give up. If you be a pacifist ok, a nihilistic you're still in the game. But if you become an escapist it's most unfortunate.
@@Johnsilver813 Man is a rational animal. We have brains to think. So why should we give up before meeting the end of line, before looking at the abyss? It's exactly what Richie said here. You can be an antheist and still have your ethics, morals, ideals, do-s and don'ts in your every day life. You have to keep looking at it, keep seeking the truth. You know Buddha was skeptical/ Agnostical to God's existence but he firmly believed in the afterlife. Existence is not a lie. Matter and energy reciprocally creates each other in a proportionate way, says the freaking theory of relativity. 👍
If you do good things only because you’re afraid of going to hell, then you’re a shitty person. Do you only love your parents because a book told you you’re going to hell if you do? Besides, by your logic, it wouldn’t make sense to not believe in afterlife and do what you want, everyone should do what they want for 1/4 of their life and spend the rest asking for forgiveness anyway.
I agree. I mean even as someone who does believe in heaven and hell. I don't think that was ever the point. It is about being good to people. Being a good person to everyone around you regardless of what they may do or say to you because that's how you make a better world.
Just don't overthink. All that matters is now and today. Go play your favourite sport, go out on a date, go play your favourite video game or whatever it is that brings you joy and meaning. Our time on earth is short but don't think about death, think about living your life!
@@blitheixgaming1289 "Go play your favourite sport, go out on a date, go play your favourite video game or whatever it is that brings you joy and meaning" - HAHAHAHAHAHA, there is nothing more pathetic. Egoinsm and mere low bottom pleasure? Really?))) What if someone doesn't have a girlfriend? And he can't just get her? What if you are poor, you want a good PC, but ain't got one? What now? I don't need answers like "just get it", you know there are people who just don't have what you mentioned. So your position is just based on living in developed rich coutry today, wich is not in war condition, while not being born poor - is that all what you base your thinking? What makes that guy thinks that there ever going to be last meal, what if he's wrong? That is the quesiton he didn't adressed nor did he answered it. So why he talks like he is 100% on truth side, what makes him thnk that? His bias? Or he is just in comfort zone, same as you? Face it - atheism doesn't answer questions, no matter if i am as christian right or wrong, it doesn't. It does "no you" thing and blindly follows it's own narrative, not proving it's point. You know why atheism doesn't bother to give answers and give points? Becuase it cannot. So then what is the basis for accepting it if there is none? Faith? That's why i'm not an atheistm and any smart person should too, christian or not, it's stupid, heavilly biased/pre-just and self-righteous. I know, that's why i ain't one anymore. No any sort of crysis after that, or i can have possibility that i'll go to Heaven (if i truly follow it and help other to as well), or: 1. blank nothingness, no reason, no furute, 2. hell. Chose well, mate.
Think deeply about your life and what happaned to you, why it happened, who is guilty for it, it is not you, I assure you, but they will try to convince that the evil that other people do to you is your fault and they will tell you not to think about it.
@@thedeathmonkey3891 I'd say he's agnostic. He frequently quotes the bible but is skeptical. He can't wrap his head around the fact that we're nothing and our lives don't matter.
Seeing this comment section full of people getting mad about him “winning an argument he made up in the shower” or “making atheists look smart and theists look dumb” makes me confused. Neither of those things were the point of this scene at all. The scene was about only living once and spending your time as best you can. About appreciating every little thing about life because you won’t be able to forever. I don’t see how these characters simply having a discussion about life could be taken as an insult to anyone.
People these days are chosing to get offended just so they can create some sort of reason to desagree and/or discuss with other people. They aren't really ofended, they just want a "good" reason to yell at others. It is a way to make them feel better about themselves and worse about those who they desagree with. Dark times.
@@quantinum2141 Or i just like to discuss with people who have different opinions,if they're reasonable it can be eye opening, if they're stupid you can laugh at them,bot possibilities end up with me feeling better than before the discussion
@@lad4830 you missed the point. I'm not talking about you, because you clearly won't get offended just because I disagree with you. You actually want to listen to others, I'm talking about those that just wanna feel like they are right and the opposite opinion is wrong. Clearly, not your case.
Yeah this wasn't really an "argument" at all. It was just a dude calmly and respectfully explaining his worldview. I see how the girl's initially brash behavior can be somewhat interpreted as an insult to religious people, but considering she calmed down immediately when he was done explaining she wasn't painted in a remotely bad light at the end of the day.
But when your arguing with believe you have to remember the point of views are different for example your right the scene is said well but for a Christian like me that does not bother me because there is an afterlife and according to the Bible it’s is a new earth and the things we love will be there are long as they are good and not evil things so the scene would not apply to believers because we don’t only live once according to God and atheist will continue seeing things just not in a good position there but with believers is that there is life after death it’s actually sad to hear atheist speak that way from our point of view we don’t want them to have to be in a position where for them that is the only life they get to enjoy when there is more of course even that has to different point of views there are atheist who hate life and don’t believe in God simply cause they suffered which is understandable but they missed the point on what God states cause they want God to be there way of thinking and therefore life is horrible and they prefer being dead to end there suffering so even among atheist they fight each other’s way of thinking
@@lad4830 I have had theists confront me about my atheism before. I would say Theists do get angrier when an atheist confronts them but they really have come at me with some anger of their own before.
That's life. Everything is business. We work to earn money. Why? So we can live, but food, and pay our expenses. Why? So we can live do the things we want. Nothing in life is free. It seems like everything is a trade off or a transaction. Including kindness and decency.
@@theintrovertedaspie9095 In many instances for sure. And for some love is only transactional, maybe all love is transactional but don't think so. If I could die to see more around me succeed in life I would, more than happily. I love most of the time becuase I want to see other people's lives better whether it benefits me or not.
Funny that some people that do believe in heaven or hell still go around raping and murdering as much as they want. The promise of an afterlife is meaningless in truth.
Well the main difference is that theists who go around raping and murdering are logically inconsistent while atheists who do the same thing follow the path to its logical ends, I hope u get it, well I think u do and u r just strawmanning the theistic narrative.
@Scott Scotty if you are to follow the path of atheism to its logical ends = there will be no inherent meaning in life, no good, no bad, no right no wrong, ''it's just DNA and we dance on its music" as Dawkins wrote in his book. As such, morality will surely become arbitrary and will be just a personal taste. that's why you cannot compare between a religious person who murders (in which case they won't be consistent with their worldview) and an atheist who murders (in which case they will be consistent with their worldview).
I watched God's Not Dead, i like Kevin Sorbo, but it's nothing more than a Christian Propaganda Film, in the end, Sorbo goes to a christian concert because he is an atheist, and on the way he gets hit by a car and is dying and a priest comes out from nowhere and asks him to believe in god and he will guide him blag blag blag, anyway, it was good until the end, then you could purely see it was nothing more than pointless drivel. Kevin Sorbo is a hardcore christian by the way.
Plenty. And if u don't believe me, just Google scientists who believe in God/creator. I don't think you ever heard of Sir Isaac Newton, Albert Einstein or many others. Do you live under a rock ? Is that rock called atheism ?
@@BrightRomeo Dude you got defensive really fast. You can search atheist scientists on Google too. I am saying have you got any stats to back up that statement of yours?
If there are gods and they are just, then they will not care how devout you have been, but will welcome you based on the virtues you have lived by. If there are no gods, then you will be gone, but will have lived a noble life that will live on in the memories of your loved ones. -Marcus Aurelius
@dylan t nothing inherently narcissistic in atheism, and a sense of the world not revolving around yourself and caring about others isnt exclusive to belief in a deity.
@dylan t Yes, it is so much more narcissistic than believing that there is an all-powerful deity that takes a vested interest in your every day life and created the universe just for you😑
Ahhh how he's got a point. As a religious man, cherishing the years we have here is very important, even if and when we go to the other side, everything we do here counts. Because we never will come back here, and one day we'll be somewhere else. Cherish those you have here and you love, one day, they wont be here, and the day's without them will seem like centuries. God bless you all lads and lasses
@Akshay 004 what were you before this life then? And why educate yourself and work for a living. Just live your life with ignorance, you can never escape your fate, everything is predestined. You die you live again. If you want moksha, Buddhism is your best bet. Primitive beliefs
But that is contrary to what the Bible puts on the table. The bible promises you eternal life after this one, and tells you that this one is only to praise god and worship at his feet. Christianity makes life into a dirty carpet for you to rub the dirt off of your shoes before entering the limitless house of god. What are 80 years compared to infinity? Its a stupid wager where you give the gift you have in your hands for a better one you "might" get.
@@indrajithak47 Ummmm.....from your statement it looks like you really don't understand the concept of karma too well. And Hinduism has the concept of moksha too which predates Buddhism.
@@jimmythemadostrich8947 So I guess this was the first thing from him you've ever seen then? Maybe if you weren't so busy rewatching Ride Along 2 . . .
Sarcasm Never seen him look quite so smugly pleased with himself as he does at about 1:37. As for Ride Along 2, never heard of it until you mentioned it. Wondering what Ricky's problem is with Kevin Hart, though? ....if you can throw some light.....
I hope we appreciate this man enough when he's alive. He's got a beautiful heart, and a real knowledge of the human condition. The master of bittersweet comedy.
I've never heard of this show until I saw this clip. I just binged the whole first season and I couldn't recommend it more highly. Brilliant look at depression, suicidal inclinations, and perseverance with a purpose.
That’s true, no one can prove what certainly happens after we die. We will all find out soon enough though. I believe because I was nonexistent for billions of years then came into existence, I can come into existence again after I die, possibly as a different organism. Even if it takes millions or trillions of years. If there’s a multiverse...
You can believe in an afterlife and still fear death, I'm an atheist, I don't think death is the end, but I do believe it will be bigger than any change I've ever experienced and change is naturally scary, also my family will fall to pieces and I don't want that to happen. Plus the only thing we know about death is that it is one way, that is terrifying, what if the afterlife doesn't have fish fingers?
No, that's silly. You're relying on the logic argument that you can't prove a negative. I can't prove there's no afterlife. I also can't prove there are no unicorns, but believing in them just because I can't prove they don't exist is silly, just like believing in an afterlife. Here's another "educated guess" - before we're born our souls exist as angels that swim around inside the sun. Since you can't prove that's not true, it must be true. See what I mean?
@@kilroy2517 Um, that's not what I'm doing and I don't believe I wrote my comment like that? I take it like this, the reason we think death is the end is that our grossly overestimated intuition tells us so, because well, it turns out if you get mauled by an animal you stop moving and never move again. Or, at some point in your old age your heart stops beating because reasons (Scars are at fault most of the time). Yeah there are an infinite amount of things that can happen after our brain decides to turn off, and if you just stick with "That's it for everyone" it's unlikely to be true when stacked against (Potential) infinity. But besides probabilities, we just lack info. I'd like some.
That's What Theists Do, They Believe Every Single Thing They Do In Life Matters Infinitely And Eternally And That They Have Only So Little Time Before Their Life Ends And They Are Judged For It.
@@Light_Force_Of_PrayerEven if buddisim is real the you as you are will not return. But the secret door can only be opened when it's time. Maybe we can come back as long as there is life, maybe not. Maybe our actions matter, maybe not. But as long as we can think, we can appreciate life now
What I love about this show, is that Ricky's Character is slowly starting to find things he loves again. He said about how you never know when its gonna be your last so do everything with passion, and you can see in this video when he talks to Kath the passion behind his words and the smile at the end. He has fun making jokes and talking to her, she's his comic relief and she doesn't even know it. Sometimes even small things can be so important.
Ironically in the Christain mythology, suicide isn't actually a sin, it was added later because this, you actually had the opposite happen, Christains wouldn't see a reason to live if the afterlife in heaven was just a confession and suicide away.
it was always a sin as it was taking a life- your own. A christian can still commit suicide and go to heaven but just like anyone who commits suicide you’re going to miss so much that would lay ahead of you if you stayed on earth. Suicides never the option no matter what the situation.
@@sirweebs2914 nah i was just making clear that in the bible it never says that if you commit suicide you’ll go to hell if you are truly born again. Then i was saying that suicide isn’t good to do. No contradictions it was a pretty easy to understand paragraph i wrote.
Even if not stated directly, one of the ten commandments is that one should not kill. If you commit suicide, then that means that the last thing you did while on earth was kill someone i.e. you, which is a sin, for which you have no time to redeem.
About two years back after I got off of work one night, I went to fill up my gas tank at an arco down the street from my house. As I was filling up my car, a young blonde lady probably in her early thirties asked if I had some spare change to help get her out of town. I looked over at her truck and saw it was filled with random things she probably took out of her house as if she was moving out. I told her after I finished filling my car up I’d fill her truck up no problem. She said thank you and we got to talking about her life and this guy she was with and how he mistreated her and she was trying to get away from him and this and that and we ended up having a real heart-to-heart conversation about life and such. She asked me if I was religious and I told her that I wasn’t and she asked if I believed in heaven and hell and all of that and I told her I didn’t. I told her that without the idea of heaven or hell being real places we go when we die, it’s really helped motivate me to be a better person for the people around me and the people I hold close and dear to my heart. It’s really changed my outlook on life and made me realize there are no redos and we don’t get any other chances - this is all there is so we need to make the most out of it. That’s why I don’t ever take anything to granted anymore and I really try and make every day count and let the people in my life know that I love them very much because any time I see them could be my last. She said I was really kind and she appreciated what I did for her. She asked for my phone number and I had given it to her and that was that. She drove off and I never talked to or saw her again. It was a really humbling experience.
@YamiYami17 objective moral truth is not necessarily linked to God tho. Just because one is able to act with certain morals in mind is not proof that God exists.
@YamiYami17 I can't. That's the point of freedom. Everyone is free to choose how they act, and while I would disagree with said persons morals, I wouldn't be able to objectively say that he is wrong. Everyone is entitled to their own choices. Either way he would be reprimanded for any of those acts since there is a basic set of morals that is accepted within the majority of societies. Really, it comes down to the fact that we follow what we were taught as children and now take it as fact, but someone could have easily been told something else at a young age causing a difference in morals. The other person is wrong in my eyes and I am wrong in his.
I like how the lady is a little bit convinced by his words. When she said she watched the movie 5 times, he states that she *didn't* waste her time and that just makes it special.
Yep, this is why I'm agnostic. Religion is kinda irrelevant to me. There's plenty of reasons to do good and avoid bad that have nothing to do with religion. But I'm not against religious ppl since any day it could turn out that they were right, or any day we might learn that atheists were right. It doesn't matter much to me though. Believe in whatever you want to believe in, it's probably just another name for humanity anyway.
@Heracles N Hmmm... Sorry if I misunderstood you, but I think I might agree. I mean, many ways in which you can find relief, either by believing in Heaven or by simply thinking that you helped someone and did the right thing. I know that saying religion is completely irrelevant is a bit of an exaggeration. My point was that I try not to dwell too much on it, since it's kind of an uncertainty, which makes me uncomfortable with putting most of my judgements on it. Again, sry if I missed your point.
i sometimes thought religions are created by humans to make a socially stable environment back then. Think about it, without the absence of religions from the start, ppl would have no fear of doing something wrong and cruel to others and themself, other than the consequences from the law. But now, i think religions are getting out of hands with their strict rules. Sure some religion are flexible and can change its rules as time goes by, but some of them.... My eyes observed that the only target now is money and power that will keep a religion going. Ppl sell their beliefs and benefit them as if they own them. It was supposed to straighten humanity, but now it is used to straighten their cashflow. Thats what i don't like about it. this is just my opinion i don't hate on other because i know that we will never know what journey awaits us at the end.
(If it matters) Coming from a catholic, Ricky could not be more right. In the end, hundreds of thousands of years from now, no ones gonna care what you believed, who you believed, what your daily routine was or what you did for a living. Life is precious. Live it to the fullest extent because no matter what we all die and only you can decide how you live it.
I believe that something always goes somewhere when it's time in a specific existence has come to an end, not exactly heaven or hell but just somewhere else in this endless universe
This program, After Life, is a multilevel work of art. I don’t know how anyone could create this story with these characters without experiencing the death of their spouse first hand.
@@CactusCowboyDan Dawkins is a physicist with no business in philosphy who barely has something new or worth bringing to the table, Jesus was a carpenter who managed but heads with the highest ranks of the Temple, and managed to cause the collapse of an entire civilisation that put him to death. Until Dawkins quits acting like a a newly atheist teen and more like a Mark Twain he always will be a wannabe.
I’d argue that someone who doesn’t think this world truly matters, or that if they just feel bad every once in a while about being a shitbag then theyre forgiven by the only one who does matter, they are intrinsically a much more dangerous person because of their perceived ez forgiveness pass. Its like someone saying “its easier to ask for forgiveness than permission”
@@PokemonDude880 well yes but the idea is an atheist is a good person because they want to be and a relgious person is a good person because they feel like they have to
@@exxodia13 that’s all just your “bet”. The idea of a “good person” isn’t universal. Atheists who think killing religious people is “good” isn’t a universal idea in everyone
I'm very sorry about your husband, trust me I completely understand how you feel, I felt the same way when my wife past away June 4th 2018 grief is hard to deal with but we learn to live with it, where are you from ?
Hope that everyone here is okay. Please know that people care about you, even if it may not feel like it at times. If you are feeling troubled, maybe professional help is the answer, or talking to a trusted friend about what you are going through. Wish you all the best.
Makes you think don't it? If this is it?!How much more beautiful is life.!? Maybe we would love more! Care more!! Be more!! Live more!! If this is it!!!
Contrived is right. Imagine Ricky sitting in his £20million Hampstead mansion, or possibly in his plush apartment overlooking central park, writing this feeling pleased with himself .
I believe in God and Heaven/Hell, but I love Ricky’s line. And I’d like to add to it from the other side. If you’re watching a movie, and you know there’s a sequel to it that you know will be incredible, should you cut the first movie off early to get to the sequel faster? Or should you enjoy the first one as much as possible, knowing you’ll never be able to watch it again once you get to the sequel?
@Scott Scotty Partner, I think Frederico meant that living with depression is the Hell. No need to jump into the old talking points without a deeper reading.
All of the side characters in this show are so relatable! Ricky really nailed this show, writing arguments and therefore controlling both sides of the debate takes a certain touch of genius.
I think the girl who is quiet during these interactions is by far one of the best characters. She adds a dimension to these scenes. It almost plays out like a podcast.
Atheist, or spiritual person, I think we can all benefit from viewing the “meaning of life” as LIFE itself rather than some ulterior purpose that has no substance of itself. If you are on the side of LIFE as an atheist I have no qualms against you. It’s the nihilists, those who deny life of its meaning in any form, that I can’t quite understand. Even then we are each on our own journey through this endless journey of LIFE and if being nihilist or an atheist is the game you want to play then go and live it, and learn the lessons that THIS life has to teach you.
Learn the lessons? For what? There's no exams later. Once you learn something everything else has changed, the same things never repeat themselves. And if they do repeat, it's like going through a triller film with all the spoilers in your head, and the movie starts to suck. It's always a choice between suffering or boredom, while perpetually chasing delusions for the sake of a memory, of momentary happiness. Okay, I don't know much of what I'm saying, but I think life is too absurd to learn anything we can try, 'cause why not what other options do we have... But inherently there's no lessons or purpose or meaning at all to any of it. In defense of nihilism, on the grounds of where everything rests.
If that’s what you want to believe...Nihilism can give solace for a time to those who either choose to not think about the deeper meaning of things or even those who have just given up the search, but in time such a philosophy only degrades the soul, trades our individual destiny for momentary pleasure and petty mundanity. LIFE is dual in its manifestation, you wouldn’t have the perception of “ nothing” if it wasn’t for the SOMETHING all around you. And even in theses intervals of “empty” space there is still SOMETHING. What that is only YOU can know and discover for yourself.
Interesting conversation. As an agnostic, I have always looked upon nihilism as a transitory state towards finding your own way to make life meaningful. Ironically, after some years of reflection I've found out that one of the most meaningful parts of life is to find meaning in life. Or all these reflections are just another stage in my midlife crisis, lol
The logical conclusion of atheism is abject nihilism though. Every single argument in favour of atheism at the present moment leads one into being forced to conclude that we live in a world that exists to no significance and which is ultimately going to end in the heat death of the universe which will condemn every facet of reality as we know it to fade into an eternity of nonexistence from which it will never re-emerge. It puts a question mark on the entire landscape of human civilisation and accomplishment as it strips us of any value as well as anything we do in life as everything we cherish and wish to preserve is all ultimately doomed to destruction at the end. I honestly think that atheists like gervais realise this and so have to construct scenes like this to try to present a perspective that shows atheism in a positive light, which in light of what following atheistic arguments down to the ground leaves you with comes off as a weak attempt to resist the undeniably depressing and borderline unliveable mindset that being an atheist leaves you with. If you’re courageous enough to try to fully embrace nihilism and not live as a living contradiction as gervais does when he says he disbelieves in free will but lives as though it exists due to not being able to face up to living as if he doesn’t
@@patrickmcardle952 That doesn't sound like nihilism or atheism. The end result of nihilsm is highlighting or exploiting flaws to end a flawed system and bring about something new. To accept that there isn't a grand creator of the universe doesn't mean you need to replace it with something else.
I've been questioning live lately, especially the "afterlife". (Never believed in any religion btw) I really needed this clip tbh. Gonna watch the whole show tomorrow.
The latest season had me in tears when he sits and watches the videos of his late wife, like he does, but in this one they they talk about who will die first. He sits there in tears and raises her a glass of red whine. Absolute sadness. Ifyouknowyouknow
FriendlyMan join the club. This is what 's annoying about all this "live your life as if it's your last day" shit!, a lot of us are introverted, self-conscious , cursed with shyness or whatever...we can't all go out there and be what we'd love to be.
@@jimmythemadostrich8947 You shouldn't live your life as if its your last day, you'd just be doing something fun and life is about being miserable and not having fun.
Nope. I used to be an Agnostic Atheist, and I didn't at all. Infact weirdly I had the conscience to do right and wrong. I wonder where that could have originated from. Evolution? Well according to you folks 😂
“Live a good life. If there are gods and they are just, then they will not care how devout you have been, but will welcome you based on the virtues you have lived by. If there are gods, but unjust, then you should not want to worship them. If there are no gods, then you will be gone, but will have lived a noble life that will live on in the memories of your loved ones.” ― Marcus Aurelius
Love yourself and never give up, I don't want to see anyone in pain, everyone can be great and is great. Never let anyone speak for you, never accept something that can't possibly happen. Life is fragile and we must respect it, from animals to people and trees. There is too much bad weather and earthquakes. We need to change and focus on the weather now, I've been watch it for years and now this shit happens and I get blamed for something that was not my fault. I did not do anything, rather was thrown into a dark place that I never wanted to go to, I am free now and can speak about why I released my old emotions from the past and why I had to be authentic and get past my social anxiety, its because I needed to warn people that the food supplies could possibly running low because of floods, locusts and everything else that has been happening with the weather recently.
