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The US is poised to ban TikTok unless the social media app cuts its ties to China. US lawmakers overwhelmingly voted for a bill which forces the Chinese owner to sell the app to an owner from a country other than China or face a total ban. The US is that the social media service could be used to collect American citizens' personal data and that it poses a threat to national security. China has protested, saying it's unfair to use those arguments to bring down the competitive advantage of other countries.
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@dougmorato
@dougmorato 2 месяца назад
Are you serious? China saying that banning TikTok is UNFAIR when China literally bans ALL FOREIGN APPS???!! Joke of the century!!!
@Manny-ht4yr
@Manny-ht4yr 2 месяца назад
Exactly! unfair LoL. China owns and control TikTok or else it wouldn't be outragged by US ban.
@ajkulac9895
@ajkulac9895 2 месяца назад
It's unfair TikTok wasn't banned years ago
@GammaW
@GammaW 2 месяца назад
Ikr, zero surprise here at their reaction
@rickrogue6993
@rickrogue6993 2 месяца назад
Now you know what the Philippines is dealing with inside their Exclusuve Economic Zone/West Philippine Sea.
@junanwang
@junanwang 2 месяца назад
China asked to have foreign app to setup server in China, google and Facebook refused and left. But TikTok setup separate server with Oracle to meet US requirement.
@edmundleung2098
@edmundleung2098 2 месяца назад
So not allowing RU-vid and Google doing business in China is fair?
@BigBoss-sm9xj
@BigBoss-sm9xj 2 месяца назад
Exactly
@backwardthoughts1022
@backwardthoughts1022 2 месяца назад
yes they have their own versions. now, however, ALL programs foreign to China will be OUT. rip trillions in USA profit.
@chesh3712
@chesh3712 2 месяца назад
Also Facebook, Instagram, whatsapp, Wikipedia and Reddit
@backwardthoughts1022
@backwardthoughts1022 2 месяца назад
they're have their own version. however this will result in complete disconnection to usa culture meaning trillions in losses for current usa companies with access to the chinese market.
@BasedAndRed
@BasedAndRed 2 месяца назад
Yes. China didn’t claim that RU-vid and Google are threats to their national security. Countries can ban whatever they want, but they should be honest about the reason.
@user-mc3ie6of4n
@user-mc3ie6of4n 2 месяца назад
China would not ban any non-Chinese apps in return, because all those apps have been banned in China long time ago. Instead, it would harass Taiwan and Philippines in revenge.
@wendten2
@wendten2 2 месяца назад
or release corona 2.0
@wplutom3239
@wplutom3239 2 месяца назад
you mean US is becoming China?
@agfitts
@agfitts 2 месяца назад
Wt kind of logic is it many countries banned in Asia already
@fufu9352
@fufu9352 2 месяца назад
啊???我不用苹果Office的么?你是坏还是蠢?
@EvilSlayer398
@EvilSlayer398 2 месяца назад
​@fufu9352 what is "Apple Office"
@user-ic8mt6jq1z
@user-ic8mt6jq1z 2 месяца назад
fair and square , because RU-vid is also banned in China since 2009. And no one says anything about it. Chinese can buy properties in foreign countries, but foreigners are not allowed to buy properties in China.
@francoislechanceux5818
@francoislechanceux5818 2 месяца назад
Better, Tiktok is actually banned in China too.
@JigilJigil
@JigilJigil 2 месяца назад
It's not just RU-vid, Google, Facebook, Insta, X, Wikipedia, and all the major news sites plus 10000s of other apps are all banned in China
@EuroTravChannel
@EuroTravChannel 2 месяца назад
@@francoislechanceux5818 Tiktok stores data exclusively inside the US, that is why they are banned in China.
@EuroTravChannel
@EuroTravChannel 2 месяца назад
RU-vid refuses to store Chinese data inside China. That is why. TikTok stores all data inside the USA, guarded by US governmental agents on US soil. Duh!
@HuplesCat
@HuplesCat 2 месяца назад
China is smart is my conclusion
@NinjaBehindTheScene
@NinjaBehindTheScene 2 месяца назад
Lol china complaining on whats fair or.not. bahahahahhaah
@umbrellastudio7481
@umbrellastudio7481 2 месяца назад
China doesn't have the right to complain?
@EuroTravChannel
@EuroTravChannel 2 месяца назад
@@umbrellastudio7481 May I say Christein hate?
@joshuajamessagritalo5906
@joshuajamessagritalo5906 2 месяца назад
Exactly.. the hypocrisy of CCP
@cdcm
@cdcm 2 месяца назад
Their banning tiktok because of the "national security law" , but without any proof 😂 , China does have their own reasons to ban US apps. First Huawei, then Tiktok, you probably would'nt be surprised when US bans BYD
@V01DIORE
@V01DIORE 2 месяца назад
@@umbrellastudio7481 Well if they're so frustrated they should just ban US social media as revenge... oh... wait...
@lambdacalculus8316
@lambdacalculus8316 2 месяца назад
Google, RU-vid, X, Facebook, WhatsApp, ban, ban, ban! What’s the fuss just banning one TikTok?
@jermaingermaine1973
@jermaingermaine1973 2 месяца назад
Exactly. Why can China ban US social media companies but the US can't?
@EuroTravChannel
@EuroTravChannel 2 месяца назад
@@jermaingermaine1973 Let me explain the 100 times because your trusted media never tell: China bans some US social media because they place Chinese data inside US. In comparison, TikTok exclusively place data inside the US, guarded by US governmental agents.
@EuroTravChannel
@EuroTravChannel 2 месяца назад
China banned them because they store Chinese data in the USA. TikTok however stores data in the USA exclusively.
@cdcm
@cdcm 2 месяца назад
Their reasons are not the same, US can ban everything without any proof if they consider a national security threat.
@UCiWrMgES50tlUhV3l6NqjNA
@UCiWrMgES50tlUhV3l6NqjNA 2 месяца назад
​@@jermaingermaine1973all social medias should be banned everywhere in the world
@AaronOkeanos
@AaronOkeanos 2 месяца назад
The Chinese Government is practically proving the point here. They complaining about it. If there is no link why do they complain?
@Kylelongwest
@Kylelongwest 2 месяца назад
That's what I have in mind.
@julioduan7130
@julioduan7130 2 месяца назад
Because US is forcing a Chinese company to sell its US branch to a US company, which is abuse of power from American side.
@HTSGOSU
@HTSGOSU 2 месяца назад
Seriously? Imagine if Germany said they'll ban Ford cars unless Ford sells itself to a non US country
@Kylelongwest
@Kylelongwest 2 месяца назад
@@HTSGOSU yeah a car and social media are the same thing.🥴
@rcrinsea
@rcrinsea 2 месяца назад
LOL. What?
@lastChang
@lastChang 2 месяца назад
China 🇨🇳 complained about the US TikTok bill is like a robber protesting a homeowner for installing locks on his doors. LOL
@umbrellastudio7481
@umbrellastudio7481 2 месяца назад
at least, xi jinping is not as brutal as Putin, you are still breathing.
@jmc4935
@jmc4935 2 месяца назад
​@@umbrellastudio7481lol. What's that supposed to mean? Xinnie Ping is such a soft leader that he'll nuke before Putin does? That's rather pathetic.
@GraniteInTheFace
@GraniteInTheFace 2 месяца назад
What's the difference between lastchang account you have here and the verylastchang account you in the scmp comment section? Why two separate ones?
@MrJesiah3
@MrJesiah3 2 месяца назад
@@umbrellastudio7481 WTF does that have to do with the price of tea in China???
@ThomasAnderson-lv4jh
@ThomasAnderson-lv4jh 2 месяца назад
I like your house, you must sell it to me, otherwise you won't want to go out. This kind of metaphor is accurate. In addition, the US government is forcing a Chinese company to sell assets in the US.
@UkrainianHimars
@UkrainianHimars 2 месяца назад
For china to talk about any compettion is hilarious they have state owned car companies, realestate, and social media try to find insta or twitter in china goodluck.
@jimsquire-chestnuts8381
@jimsquire-chestnuts8381 2 месяца назад
TikTok is banned in China…
@maskefizeu
@maskefizeu 2 месяца назад
@@jimsquire-chestnuts8381 No is different
@EuroTravChannel
@EuroTravChannel 2 месяца назад
Really? Now, google, facebook, etc refuse to store data in China. This is why China rejected them. In comparison, TikTok places all American data inside the US. Any transmission out of the US has to go through US border and/or internet hub.
@EuroTravChannel
@EuroTravChannel 2 месяца назад
All the US companies require placing Chinese customer data inside the US. That was why they were banned in China. TikTok places all US customer data inside the US. Duh!
@EuroTravChannel
@EuroTravChannel 2 месяца назад
Can inst and twitter store data in China, not the US? this is my question to you.
@JB-sf4pg
@JB-sf4pg 2 месяца назад
India banned it overnight 😂
@mathildehansen4
@mathildehansen4 2 месяца назад
TikTok was released in 2015 and India banned it in 2020
@User-vz4xm
@User-vz4xm 2 месяца назад
@@mathildehansen4I think the OP means the process of banning it was overnight
@karankrishnakanth
@karankrishnakanth 2 месяца назад
​@@mathildehansen4he meant the decision to ban them was overnight
@mathildehansen4
@mathildehansen4 2 месяца назад
@@karankrishnakanthDid he tell you that himself? It's actually incorrect to say it was decided upon overnight, as it was banned first in 2019, then repealed, before being banned again in 2020 (along with 59 other Chinese apps)
@karankrishnakanth
@karankrishnakanth 2 месяца назад
@@mathildehansen4 I take it back u r right 👍
@condorX2
@condorX2 2 месяца назад
The US isn’t even trying to outright ban TikTok. It’s simply trying to force the Chinese company (ByteDance) that owns the US-based branch of TikTok it to sell it to a Western or Western-friendly buyer. That’s called “forced divestiture” in legal terms. The ban is simply being used to force ByteDance to choose between compliance, or being excluded from the US market. -timonsolus
@gangwang9474
@gangwang9474 Месяц назад
so kind US govment
@Bobberhead007
@Bobberhead007 Месяц назад
@@gangwang9474 So what's the difference??? Forcing someone to sell their own property...
@Nidal_Co
@Nidal_Co 2 месяца назад
Tiktok should be banned worldwide 😐😐😐
@EuroTravChannel
@EuroTravChannel 2 месяца назад
You should go to see Jesues today now.
@robertduluth8994
@robertduluth8994 2 месяца назад
Why
@emilio0833
@emilio0833 2 месяца назад
Too much wickedness from early age. Destroyed generations. ​@@robertduluth8994
@EuroTravChannel
@EuroTravChannel 2 месяца назад
@@robertduluth8994 He is from India! That's why. BTW, his real color is a lot darker than that picture.
@ZWD2011
@ZWD2011 2 месяца назад
Because it (amongst others) causes the telephone zombie disease. You can identify infected people by the mushrooms growing out of their ears as well as their oblivious traffic participation.
@user-mc1fl4fw6d
@user-mc1fl4fw6d 2 месяца назад
Tiktok should be banned.
@olerilekoketso-io3bx
@olerilekoketso-io3bx 2 месяца назад
Why?
@sten260
@sten260 2 месяца назад
they are not banning tiktok, they are banning Americans from using tiktok. You are getting banned lol
@GraniteInTheFace
@GraniteInTheFace 2 месяца назад
No chance they sell to fox news
@burns281981
@burns281981 2 месяца назад
@@olerilekoketso-io3bx why does China control Google? and Youtbue? and Facebook? Why is it when another country does exactly what China is doing, suddenly China views it as a problem. Yet China can see no issue with them doing it. Are we all suppose to just play ignorant to the double standard?
@burns281981
@burns281981 2 месяца назад
@@GraniteInTheFace actually the ex CEO of Activision/Blizzard "Bobby" is expected to be the lead buyer, with a group of investors. If they do decide to sell to an American owned operation, rather than a China owned one.
@arthurd6495
@arthurd6495 2 месяца назад
US should have reciprocated China’s policy on US social media apps long ago
@kkay2000
@kkay2000 2 месяца назад
Pure hysterical anti-China antics
@MausTheGerman
@MausTheGerman 2 месяца назад
When I see how addicted the teenagers and their friends in my family are to TikTok's manipulative algorithm, I support banning the app.
@sandyvalentin3072
@sandyvalentin3072 2 месяца назад
I heard that my mother is 82 and she is always sending me videos I told her please stop there must be something there
@cdcm
@cdcm 2 месяца назад
so you also support banning Instagram, RU-vid, etc ?
@fireofhislove3395
@fireofhislove3395 2 месяца назад
​@@cdcmNein. Just the tok.
@mgronich948
@mgronich948 2 месяца назад
Go anywhere in the US, it's not just teenagers but everyone is constantly looking at the smart phones. Ban smart phones? The iphone is designed to be addicting.
@TuhunluunBionoid
@TuhunluunBionoid 2 месяца назад
Then ban it with an honest reason, not made up one like “ national security”. Coming up a false accusation, that’s manipulation. And ban all the SM, not just tik tok. Otherwise it’s discrimination
@conorredmond6217
@conorredmond6217 2 месяца назад
i feel so bad for the guy with a penthouse...
@martinmey6237
@martinmey6237 2 месяца назад
Well, it's a mouse trap. Reward a few mice to get the rest of mice inside the trap. Clever.
@raymondmerkson1393
@raymondmerkson1393 2 месяца назад
I swear 😮
@TheSignatureKing
@TheSignatureKing 2 месяца назад
The fact that the Chinese foreign ministry is the loudest complainant tells me everything I need to know.
@Booz2020
@Booz2020 2 месяца назад
Empty Barrel Makes The LOUDest Sound 👀
@martinmey6237
@martinmey6237 2 месяца назад
What? That they loose the tool to collect data they can manipulate?
@martinmey6237
@martinmey6237 2 месяца назад
What? That they loose the tool to collect data they can manipulate?
@martinmey6237
@martinmey6237 2 месяца назад
What? That they loose the tool to collect data they can manipulate
@martinmey6237
@martinmey6237 2 месяца назад
This is third post not showing up. The sign of the CCP control.
@TheGersh18
@TheGersh18 2 месяца назад
China is complaining like they would allow an American app linked to the NSA to be used in China. That is the equivalent of Tik Tok being used in the US.
@martinmey6237
@martinmey6237 2 месяца назад
It's data collection tool. People use data to manipulate and control other people.
@mgronich948
@mgronich948 2 месяца назад
When Elon Musk took over Twitter, he found out that content moderators at Twitter and Facebook (as well as most US social media sites) were staffed by ex FBI/CIA/NSA folks. The US intel agencies have more censors (per capita) than China has. The issue is not is it fair to China the issue US neocons want complete control of the US internet firewall.
@ThomasAnderson-lv4jh
@ThomasAnderson-lv4jh 2 месяца назад
As required by the US government, the Chinese government requires servers to be placed in China and comply with Chinese laws. Can you do it? TikTok did it.
@TuhunluunBionoid
@TuhunluunBionoid 2 месяца назад
Tik tok is private company, has nothing to do with gov entity, the NSA analogy doesn’t apply
@TheGersh18
@TheGersh18 2 месяца назад
@@TuhunluunBionoid there is no such thing as a totally private company in China, the government including their intelligence services have access to everything if they want. So the analogy is pretty accurate.
@rajasekhar7951
@rajasekhar7951 2 месяца назад
Congratulations to the USA for the decision.
@showsjohn
@showsjohn 2 месяца назад
Nothing has been decided
@kkay2000
@kkay2000 2 месяца назад
Pure hysterical anti-China antics
@simpmaster7995
@simpmaster7995 2 месяца назад
Says a Wu+Mao located in China.
@Zezi007G
@Zezi007G 2 месяца назад
When the US arrested the head of Alstom, France also cried out that it was unfair. When the US tapped the German Chancellor's bedside phone, German also cried out that it was disheartening. Then every thing still goes well in those countries.😊 There is no fairness or unfairness in this world, it's just a matter of enduring or fighting back. From a business perspective, Tiktok would rather go bankrupt in the United States than be split up by American companies. Because that would mean that Tiktok would be sold at a low price besides its technology and all overseas markets would be stolen by American companies. There are too many examples of the United States completely destroying foreign companies and markets after one or two years of mergers.
@delveling
@delveling 2 месяца назад
sounds like you are crying chinas crocodile tears for them
@Zezi007G
@Zezi007G 2 месяца назад
​@@delvelingMaybe in fact you are that crocodile caught in America?😂
@mgronich948
@mgronich948 2 месяца назад
There are many benefits to banning TikTok. But yes TikTok would likely not sell. 170 Millions of americans will get mad at their govt. 6 million business on Tik Tok. Many of these might actually vote based on TikTok's ban.
@Zezi007G
@Zezi007G 2 месяца назад
It is highly likely that Tiktok will leave the United States or go bankrupt in the United States. Because the United States' goal is to swallow Tiktok and occupy its global share. Security is just the fig leaf of US rogue trick. Former U.S. Treasury Secretary Mnuchin said on CNBC on Thursday: "I think TikTok should be sold. This is a good business, and I will form a group to acquire TikTok."
@user-xp2dr6io1r
@user-xp2dr6io1r 2 месяца назад
your brain and opinion is clearest
@kwado6151
@kwado6151 2 месяца назад
hahha china saying unfair, Joke of the mileniium
@ThomasAnderson-lv4jh
@ThomasAnderson-lv4jh 2 месяца назад
The history of the United States is 1000 years?
@MartinOlminkhof
@MartinOlminkhof 2 месяца назад
Can't even use TikTok in China
@chubetwat
@chubetwat 2 месяца назад
Bit ignorant. How about you search for what TiKTok is called in China
@francoislechanceux5818
@francoislechanceux5818 2 месяца назад
​​@@chubetwatNope. It's absolutely 2 different apps. Doyin and tiktok are not the same. Tiktok is banned in China.
@EuroTravChannel
@EuroTravChannel 2 месяца назад
TikTok stores data exclusively inside the USA, that is why it is banned in China.
@birdsnature6421
@birdsnature6421 2 месяца назад
@@francoislechanceux5818because TikTok data base and server is in the US
@MetallicReg
@MetallicReg 2 месяца назад
China has a much higher standard for apps. You can critisize them as much as you want concerning censorship - but they do also care for the health of their own people.
@williamzabiski7653
@williamzabiski7653 2 месяца назад
If it is unfair then let tiktok in also china.
@word42069
@word42069 2 месяца назад
Hearing the CCP complain about “fair competition” makes me cackle. 😂 Also there are some very obvious CCP bots in this comment section. PS: the last guest has to be on bytedance’s payroll.. it visibly pained him to spew some of that baseless nonsense.
@zacksmith5963
@zacksmith5963 2 месяца назад
😂Just to remind you Google Facebook quit Chinese market themselves because they don't want to follow Chinese media law which applies to all businesses in China. Tiktok follows American laws but still get banned That is the difference. Come on is that hard to admit the US government simply wants to own TikTok because it is successful. Same story happens again and again.
@victorsamuel8708
@victorsamuel8708 2 месяца назад
When western countries are aftaid of banning TikTok but India is the first to ban this app and more than 120 Chinese App
@Im.sorry.you.feel.that.way.
@Im.sorry.you.feel.that.way. 2 месяца назад
We should learn from the most democratic and free Afghanistan to ban TikTok.
@AB-fi5jt
@AB-fi5jt 2 месяца назад
Please don’t compare india to western countries, its democracy is a joke of the world.
@martinmey6237
@martinmey6237 2 месяца назад
Bravo bravo.
@thescientist1839
@thescientist1839 2 месяца назад
US doesn't have balls.
@lenkiatleong
@lenkiatleong 2 месяца назад
The US is like a street gangster who demand a very successful street hawker to sell the stall to him.
@kkay2000
@kkay2000 2 месяца назад
The world's Biggest Gangster!
@danieldevito6380
@danieldevito6380 2 месяца назад
I pray that this ban goes through
@EuroTravChannel
@EuroTravChannel 2 месяца назад
already banned in your Hindu nations.
@Arniux17
@Arniux17 2 месяца назад
EU needs also to impose TikTok ban !!!
@johnmcentegart007
@johnmcentegart007 2 месяца назад
Who says?
@TuhunluunBionoid
@TuhunluunBionoid 2 месяца назад
Why stop there? Maybe EU should also consider banning Facebook or RU-vid to give local social media a great opportunity to grow. After all, EU has created zero app that’s influential world wide due to the US and Chinese competition for years now.
@esashaik1372
@esashaik1372 2 месяца назад
Isnt You Tube and other US social networks being used to monitor other countries citizens that use American platforms?By that logic other countries should also start banning US apps.
@EuroTravChannel
@EuroTravChannel 2 месяца назад
Yes. Ed Snowden was punished for bringing it to light.
@sybil3716
@sybil3716 2 месяца назад
As a Chinese, I say this is absolutely a legitimate concern. If we acknowledge that ccp has full access to data collected by Wechat, Taobao, Alipay or any other apps in China, why would we assume that this is not happening to Tiktok?
@swaitun
@swaitun 2 месяца назад
BAN IT. Imagine them hacking every single phone if we go to war.
@EuroTravChannel
@EuroTravChannel 2 месяца назад
swaitun, India has already banned it. I think America is not as corrupt.
@kkay2000
@kkay2000 2 месяца назад
Your phone only?
@rookie08
@rookie08 2 месяца назад
Some of These ppl need to get a real job 😂
@ArabicReja973
@ArabicReja973 2 месяца назад
Chinese high-tech companies, including TikTok's owner ByteDance, are extensions of the Chinese government. - How do I know this? Chinese "national security" laws say so!
@damiansicarius3493
@damiansicarius3493 2 месяца назад
Kinda like American National Security laws do the same thing with our companies.. If the US asks for your data from Facebook or any other US company they have to give it to the Govt
@oka-yoke
@oka-yoke 2 месяца назад
Also state controlled "free" private US platforms apply autocensorship on the comments and contents. Not only violating things but also politics that US will not like. Google is not more innocent then tiktok. They use and sell our userdatas by force. Since they are dominant and have no serious opponent in the market, they find themself right to manipulate User datas and ban the voices. Tiktok is not a compare to google but a rising opponent. That theats American data collecting companies
@kkay2000
@kkay2000 2 месяца назад
You don't get it.
@catsNcode
@catsNcode 2 месяца назад
Show us where this 'law' is. None of you can even read or speak the language and apparently you've scoured through the law books in China.
@User_ussr_
@User_ussr_ Месяц назад
It is easier for US to invade middle-east than ban Tik-tok.😂
@paulhung3213
@paulhung3213 2 месяца назад
Don’t asked USA government, ask TikTok users!!!
@b21raider27
@b21raider27 2 месяца назад
😂 @ China Banning foreign social media apps to the Great Firewall. Ban public servants from having Apple smartphones. Etc.
@redsable6119
@redsable6119 2 месяца назад
No it's not fair, the world isn't fair especially with you in it Xi.
@spiderliliez
@spiderliliez 23 дня назад
I seriously detest this app. How can people be so dumb. I don't get it.
@jupiterbooba
@jupiterbooba 2 месяца назад
“Fair competition”😂 Can Instagram, RU-vid compete in China?
@sirshart2006
@sirshart2006 2 месяца назад
The Irony saying it’s unfair is hilarious 😂
@kkay2000
@kkay2000 2 месяца назад
Pure hysterical anti-China antics
@Qwerty32134313
@Qwerty32134313 2 месяца назад
China crying wolf, when all their users are behind a firewall and cannot access many non Chinese applications ;)
@matthewkuriacose319
@matthewkuriacose319 2 месяца назад
So what about China banned twitter, You tube, Google, Facebook and even TikTok highly censored in China?
@user-yy9hk9od9u
@user-yy9hk9od9u 2 месяца назад
Tell China to unban RU-vid, Facebook, Instagram, Google and Yahoo in China, then they can say something about this.
@oka-yoke
@oka-yoke 2 месяца назад
They did it respectively in respond to the American bans on Chinese products.
@michaelagbayani4961
@michaelagbayani4961 2 месяца назад
So google dont have info of their user?? 😊
@araara4746
@araara4746 2 месяца назад
Does that mean China can ban iPhones for national security reasons too?
@utubeballbag
@utubeballbag 2 месяца назад
Maybe but there are 1.5million chinese who depend on apples supply chain for a job
@MrTobytherat
@MrTobytherat 2 месяца назад
They'll just hint at a boycott if you love your country and stir up that nationalistic pot. Then iPhone sales will go down without a ban.
@meltedicecreamsandwich
@meltedicecreamsandwich 22 дня назад
Yes and if they do who cares
@hexoroid
@hexoroid 2 месяца назад
Tiktok is so bad for kids.. that its 🤢
@alexisthomas3472
@alexisthomas3472 Месяц назад
America doesn’t want this a government acting outside of the will. The people do US citizenship vote. The fact that they won’t let us means I feed him a speech is a debt in the US.
@agherna80
@agherna80 2 месяца назад
Competitive advantage from other countries. Hmm, I'm still trying to find ways as a Mexican American to set a shop in Aliexpress, Alibaba, or Temu. They don't let you as a foreigner.
@Noiretranquility
@Noiretranquility 2 месяца назад
The same way meta does 🤦🏻‍♂️
@xgguo3531
@xgguo3531 2 месяца назад
The practice of China government is quite different from USA. China: There are the internet regulations that all internet Apps should follow, no matter the ownership of App. If not , blocked technically by its Great Firewall. USA : no regulations Tiktok failed to follow so far. But Tiktok is owned by China company , it has to be sold to a US friendly company , otherwise , it is banned. The same bill can be used to ban websites/Apps of any countries that US does not like , such as Middle East /Arabs media, Or Africa Media. Even worse, it can be used to ban Twitter (X) as US president can claim X is controlled by foreign enemy.
@michaelagbayani4961
@michaelagbayani4961 2 месяца назад
Im willing to give up youtube ang google spotify for this usa owns lot more social media apps and i dont think its a threat same thing for tiktok
@carlduplessis31
@carlduplessis31 2 месяца назад
The US wants to have it sold to a company that will do the US government’s bidding .
@mgronich948
@mgronich948 2 месяца назад
That is a company like facebook that will hire 1000's of content moderators who used to work for the FBI/CIA/NSA. Thousands of them
@coronabaytherapy
@coronabaytherapy 2 месяца назад
*The irony !* 🙄
@hide_on_peanut
@hide_on_peanut 2 месяца назад
It is said that China refused Google but accepted Apple. The reason is the location of data server. Google didn’t allow to set data servers in China for chinese datas. However, TikTok have data server in US and supervised by the third party.
@p4ssingtime
@p4ssingtime 2 месяца назад
Totally unfair. After all, you can use Google and RU-vid in China! Oh, wait...
@rcrinsea
@rcrinsea 2 месяца назад
Google and RU-vid wanted to spy on China, that’s why they’re not allowed. They insisted on storing Chinese data in America. That is not compliant with Chinese law. TikTok doesn’t store data in China. Please do your research.
@EuroTravChannel
@EuroTravChannel 2 месяца назад
Google and RU-vid refuses to store Chinese data inside China. TikTok stores data inside the USA. Duh!
@liveinsea1
@liveinsea1 2 месяца назад
you cannot use google and youtube in china because they would not like to follow the chinese laws and prefer freedom of speech. then google left china. facebook is a tool in the color revolutions all over the world and would not interested in the chinese laws but tiktok follows all the US laws. the real problem is china has no freedom of speech and never claimed that but the US is so proud of itself for having freedom of speech.
@HumanBeingsRThinkingBeings
@HumanBeingsRThinkingBeings 2 месяца назад
Mind Begs the Question: - TikTok is Security Threat - Pegasus is Not Security Threat?
@blolee-gc1sr
@blolee-gc1sr 2 месяца назад
china didnt ban any of those APPS, they are allowed run in china if they delete all stuff of porn ,drugs, violence. they say no and left china.
@keymaker88
@keymaker88 2 месяца назад
So...which company doesn't collect personal data? Aren't our data being collected on a regular basis?
@jules263
@jules263 2 месяца назад
China bans Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, WhatsApp, Netflix, Google etc in China. So, nothing wrong with US banning TikTok in the US
@kkay2000
@kkay2000 2 месяца назад
Quit yakking, Uncle Sam. Go ahead and make my day!
@kctoh6171
@kctoh6171 2 месяца назад
Those companies refuse to store their data in china, so they withdraw from china market, if they comply, they can operate in china. However Tiktok follow the US request, so why now want to ban it
@zacksmith5963
@zacksmith5963 2 месяца назад
😂Just to remind you Google Facebook quit Chinese market themselves because they don't want to follow Chinese media law which applies to all businesses in China. Tiktok follows American laws but still get banned That is the difference. Come on is that hard to admit the US government simply wants to own TikTok because it is successful. Same story happens again and again.
@jules263
@jules263 2 месяца назад
@@zacksmith5963 I will take your comments seriously when China starts prosecuting and banning illegal counterfeiters. Now put your made in China LV bag away 😂
@NotUnymous
@NotUnymous 2 месяца назад
Ps: and ban X too!
@khaelavellano1966
@khaelavellano1966 2 месяца назад
I can live without Tiktok. Can't you!??
@johanna77777
@johanna77777 2 месяца назад
Bye TikTok !!!! hate this app and what it does to the new generation
@zollen123
@zollen123 2 месяца назад
If only US imposed the same scrutiny to other social media sites, it would not be such a controversy.
@JoeyBlogs007
@JoeyBlogs007 2 месяца назад
They could always sell the app to Russia. 🤣🤣🤣
@mgronich948
@mgronich948 2 месяца назад
Russia wouldn't be allowed to buy it. Only US firms a fire sale price.
@slyf122
@slyf122 2 месяца назад
China should not be the one to complain about unfairness when it comes to banning social media platforms.
@robo__cop8154
@robo__cop8154 2 месяца назад
what the company can do is move the data of all users to a server located somewhere else so that when tiktok is banned the data will not be lost and users in america can still use it using a vpn ,if thats possible the parent company should swiftly move the data with the time they hqave available .
@TheYeti308
@TheYeti308 2 месяца назад
The sands of time have run out on tik tok .
@oka-yoke
@oka-yoke 2 месяца назад
Also on youtube x instagram etc...
@EuroTravChannel
@EuroTravChannel 2 месяца назад
Aha, TikTok receives such severe blow, so quickly, is allegedly due to TikTok users honest report of Isreeli carnage in Pelestine.
@shunlawrence5699
@shunlawrence5699 2 месяца назад
This is a treat in all positions
@jesusaguilar4585
@jesusaguilar4585 2 месяца назад
This has more to do about the US not being able to compete against Chinese products in the US than "national security". Hiawei was banned in the US for "national security" without any proof, Chinese electric cars are being targeted for "national security" as well.
@ndavies8
@ndavies8 2 месяца назад
Yeah... TikTok like Alibaba, Temu etc can at anytime be forced to share data on anyone, not just Americans.
@EuroTravChannel
@EuroTravChannel 2 месяца назад
Not ture. TikTok American Data are stored inside the USA. It is like a most wanted by China can be free in the USA.
@TuhunluunBionoid
@TuhunluunBionoid 2 месяца назад
Sharing the data for what purpose? China is too busy managing its 1.4 billion people to have an interest in what dance you like to do on tik tok. The threat is over blown and mostly just projecting.
@vladnickul
@vladnickul 2 месяца назад
No doubt tiktok uses data collected that way. But the fun fact is that US companies does exactly the same thing with international users :))
@damiansicarius3493
@damiansicarius3493 2 месяца назад
Yes if the Govt really cared about the Data they would pass Data privacy laws..
@greengarnish1711
@greengarnish1711 2 месяца назад
Would you rather your government do it or a hostile foreign autocratic government?
@BrandonEBoyd
@BrandonEBoyd 2 месяца назад
Apples and oranges. The U.S. government doesn't own stake in any social media companies and don't really care about the data from international users. American businesses might care to better to sell their products. This is about a hostile foreign government having access to the minds and data of Americans.
@cosplayshop
@cosplayshop 2 месяца назад
The issue are two ways, it's not just the availability of the company, but also the availability of the users. Every country should be monitoring within their own country, so it's one thing US want to ban a foreign apps like TikTok, which is within their right to do that, it's another thing a foreign user sign up on a local platform. It's like a non-Chinese sign up for Douyin (Chinese version of Tiktok) and then complaint about Douyin monitoring their usage. Well, it's within your right not to use that platform.....
@BrandonEBoyd
@BrandonEBoyd 2 месяца назад
You're deflecting. China wants to play by two different sets of rules.
@AnandBhadouriya3
@AnandBhadouriya3 2 месяца назад
Internet becomes a lot less cringe when you ban tik tok so that's an added benefit apart from the data protection stuff
@chailatecookies7341
@chailatecookies7341 2 месяца назад
I hope the UK Government officials also bans this app, my kid is driving me nuts
@user-ic8mt6jq1z
@user-ic8mt6jq1z 2 месяца назад
China should be grateful that they have been admitted to the WTO. otherwise they would still be playing in the rice fields. LOL
@ThomasAnderson-lv4jh
@ThomasAnderson-lv4jh 2 месяца назад
Chinese people have been playing in rice paddies for five thousand years.
@kkay2000
@kkay2000 2 месяца назад
Think of the computer & smartphone in your hands. "Made in China" or "Assembled in China" for $5.
@jules263
@jules263 2 месяца назад
@@kkay2000 Not invented by China? Only thing you know is how to counterfeit and copy. Don’t worry you won’t have the made in China problem moving forward. Plenty of countries waiting for our mighty dollar.
@xXStickArmsXx
@xXStickArmsXx 2 месяца назад
So Facebook, RU-vid, Google, Instagram. All blocked in China. But totally unfair to ban TikTok? Lmfao!
@powell6376
@powell6376 2 месяца назад
🙌🏻 totally agree with u
@Jen-xg3iq
@Jen-xg3iq 2 месяца назад
They are not blocked. I am able to use all these apps with ATT or Tmobil roaming.
@One_For_All
@One_For_All 2 месяца назад
hi, where am i ?
@hbt739
@hbt739 2 месяца назад
Seriously ban it. It is one of the worst, then ban the hole format of shorts. I have no problem with reddit or instagram but these shorts are horrible for childrean and people with ADHD. They are the internet in its most addictive form and clearly target childrean/teenagers
@RaviPrakash-tv2xo
@RaviPrakash-tv2xo 2 месяца назад
Ban tiktok like India did in 2020.
@damiansicarius3493
@damiansicarius3493 2 месяца назад
The thing is America has this thing called Free Speech it is our 1st right..
@andrewmichaels5725
@andrewmichaels5725 2 месяца назад
China bans everything non-Chinese, US is dealing with it on the basis of reciprocity. There is nothing wrong with that.
@chengavitch10
@chengavitch10 2 месяца назад
US is as bad as the authoritarian communist.
@damiansicarius3493
@damiansicarius3493 2 месяца назад
So you want the American Govt to be like China then.. because if the 1st goes the rest of our rights aren't far behind.
@oka-yoke
@oka-yoke 2 месяца назад
They partially do it in respond to the American bans on Chinese products.
@TuhunluunBionoid
@TuhunluunBionoid 2 месяца назад
So many lies. China is filled with foreign brands and products everywhere. Where is the banning? . Have you ever been to China?
@_loss_
@_loss_ 2 месяца назад
China literally has laws where large companies need to be partially owned by the government. Who do they think they are?
@kkay2000
@kkay2000 2 месяца назад
You're wrong
@jules263
@jules263 2 месяца назад
@@kkay2000 Wong
@dan8910100
@dan8910100 2 месяца назад
@@kkay2000 wong
@hank60don
@hank60don 2 месяца назад
Germany is a total vssal state to the US.
@CIBERXGAMING
@CIBERXGAMING 2 месяца назад
it'd be a service to humanity to ban it worldwide
@EuroTravChannel
@EuroTravChannel 2 месяца назад
Only Christienity has freedom inside the USA. It is called discriminatin.
@VL-inquisitor
@VL-inquisitor 2 месяца назад
This is the most hideous precedent of all time. If any foreign company can be forced to be divested like this, then should China reciprocate the same to American companies having businesses there? Worst still, the core values of American capitalism, fair trade, respect of private property, freedom of speech etc are completely shattered in a single move.
@cosplayshop
@cosplayshop 2 месяца назад
umm, the Chinese already did. And this is not about freedom of speech.
@VL-inquisitor
@VL-inquisitor 2 месяца назад
@@cosplayshop You hit the nail on its head. That's not freedom of speech that China was worrying about. What is more concerning for China is undue influence by an external adversary. We have seen social media being used to influence the outcome elections / referendums (like Brexit); or to instigate social unrests or even regime changes (eg Jan 2021 Capitol Hill riot). China obviously does not want a foreign power to interfere with its affairs.
@oka-yoke
@oka-yoke 2 месяца назад
China did it partially on the purose of the respond to the American ban policy on China producs
@TuhunluunBionoid
@TuhunluunBionoid 2 месяца назад
All the values you stated, you have to be brain washed to believe that the US meant them for itself to uphold.😅
@zacksmith5963
@zacksmith5963 2 месяца назад
​@@cosplayshopJust to remind you Google Facebook quit Chinese market themselves because they don't want to follow Chinese media law which applies to all businesses in China. Tiktok follows American laws but still get banned That is the difference. Come on is that hard to admit the US government simply wants to own TikTok because it is successful. Same story happens again and again.
@thesho_music
@thesho_music 2 месяца назад
The case in Montana was ruled in violation of freedom of speech because it only called for a ban. This iteration would call for divestment to American companies, so wouldn’t quantify as freedom of speech territory
@TuhunluunBionoid
@TuhunluunBionoid 2 месяца назад
It will qualify as a open rubbery of other people’s hard work and profitable business.
@annmariedeignan2596
@annmariedeignan2596 2 месяца назад
Speaking as an American, I am far more concerned about the US government having my personal data.
@henr0les
@henr0les 2 месяца назад
How dare they complaining about unfairness when they ban Facebook, google , eBay , Amazon and many many others and not only that they copied and made their own version .. get out of here with the unfair argument
@TuhunluunBionoid
@TuhunluunBionoid 2 месяца назад
None of them is banned. Amazon and eBay don’t do well in Chinese market so gave up themselves. Facebook and google didnt want to comply with Chinese law, so they also decide to exit China. Tik tok does well and has complies to US laws but still got singled out. There are huge differences!
@zacksmith5963
@zacksmith5963 2 месяца назад
U destroyed the karen above . Nice​@@TuhunluunBionoid
@henr0les
@henr0les Месяц назад
@@TuhunluunBionoid you can say whatever you want but China copied all of them .. TikTok is pretty much the only Chinese platform and they have to go..!
@esashaik1372
@esashaik1372 2 месяца назад
Telling tik tok to cut ties with China is the same like asking google to cut ties with the US 😂.Americans use Tik Tok to make a living just imagine how many Americans will lose their busines if the US government bans Tik Tok.
@mgronich948
@mgronich948 2 месяца назад
THe US Govt doesn't care. TikTok is not censoring posts from Gaza. This is why it must be banned.
@49200VOLGA
@49200VOLGA 2 месяца назад
That's democracy, Karl!
@smallthingsmatter24722
@smallthingsmatter24722 Месяц назад
Hold strong tiktok & China don't let US bully you! If US wants to isolate themselves from the world let them, it's their loss
@mpriymak
@mpriymak 2 месяца назад
The US is all about "free markets" and "fair competition".... until they are out-competed...
@littleowlbooks8514
@littleowlbooks8514 2 месяца назад
Does China play by the rules? They haven't for the last 25 years in terms of international regulations.
@jianlili164
@jianlili164 2 месяца назад
@@littleowlbooks8514 What are the international regulations?
@MadalinIgnisca
@MadalinIgnisca 2 месяца назад
Who cares about TikTok. We got RU-vid Shorts.
@EuroTravChannel
@EuroTravChannel 2 месяца назад
RU-vid shorts lose to TikTok.
@compactwoodhplcladding
@compactwoodhplcladding 2 месяца назад
Smart Chinese people defined the mobile Internet era, and tiktok wrote history. Chinese people are proud of this. You have to admit, this is the glory of those Chinese. It doesn't matter who is destroying this glory. Just like the dark history of the slave trade cannot destroy the glory of the heroes of that era.
@YS27122
@YS27122 2 месяца назад
US keeps threatening meanwhile india did it long back in 2020 😂😂
@Im.sorry.you.feel.that.way.
@Im.sorry.you.feel.that.way. 2 месяца назад
We should learn from the most democratic and free Afghanistan to ban TikTok.
@YS27122
@YS27122 2 месяца назад
@@Im.sorry.you.feel.that.way. the irony is that US is in no mood to ‘learn’. Thats precisely the reason it is a collapsing society.
@TuhunluunBionoid
@TuhunluunBionoid 2 месяца назад
Since US is a more mature and democratic country than India? What india did is just to tell the world that any investment in India is risky and up to the government’s mood. I believe most investors don’t like the sound of that.
@YS27122
@YS27122 2 месяца назад
@@TuhunluunBionoid india banned tiktok after consultations and credible evidence of data leak and theft. It just shows that indians are proactive to act in their national interests while US eventually follows the same model after a lot of lazy delays. US is lazy asf
@gawa7114
@gawa7114 2 месяца назад
My understanding of China app rules are to have data store local, regulated with anti-ccp content. Apple , ms are ok with it so they can open shop, google fb say no, then no license.
@dkmark7802
@dkmark7802 2 месяца назад
Facebook is a specific case, they complied with the Chinese law, but China had various terrorist attacks in last decade that were organized in Facebook, and the company refused to cooperate with the Chinese government antiterrorist measures.
@user-bu5hl3iu9y
@user-bu5hl3iu9y 2 месяца назад
no problem" create American Tik- Tok!!
@nickchkheidze9189
@nickchkheidze9189 2 месяца назад
costumer is always right. US is costumer in this case 🤣
@damiansicarius3493
@damiansicarius3493 2 месяца назад
And the people don't want this, only our Govt which many also own stocks in META which stands to earn from closing down Tiktok
@nickchkheidze9189
@nickchkheidze9189 2 месяца назад
@@damiansicarius3493 Insider trading xD America is not a country, it's a business 😂
@ghoraxe9000
@ghoraxe9000 2 месяца назад
My only concern is what next?.. If our government can remove TikTok.. what else can they remove or already removed?
@EuroTravChannel
@EuroTravChannel 2 месяца назад
You are exactly right.
@sweetsendaedreamr
@sweetsendaedreamr 2 месяца назад
You should read up on history....and revisit the reason for massacres if you really want to know the answer to that.
@ghoraxe9000
@ghoraxe9000 2 месяца назад
@@sweetsendaedreamr Oh I know the history XD
@mp_luffy
@mp_luffy 2 месяца назад
they do that on facebook and youtube banned so funny they said unfair seriously
@coffeegator6033
@coffeegator6033 2 месяца назад
CCP: We are not affiliated with tiktok and pose no threat. Also CCP: Hey, why are you banning OUR app?
@TuhunluunBionoid
@TuhunluunBionoid 2 месяца назад
Shouldn’t a government voice concern about discriminations on its people and its business, especially when they already follows and complies with the local laws?
@coffeegator6033
@coffeegator6033 2 месяца назад
Also, my point is that the CCP argues that they don't control the app, but then they act like they control it while saying they don't at the same time. You'll get it later.@@TuhunluunBionoid
@zacksmith5963
@zacksmith5963 2 месяца назад
Usa govt : we want better chances for usa businesses Also usa govt : why are usa businesses in china
@GroverAU
@GroverAU 2 месяца назад
What about Discord? Thats a far bigger problem - unencrypted data and mostly owned by CCP companies. Madness.
@splashofun
@splashofun 2 месяца назад
How many RU-vid users does China have?
@vectorfox4782
@vectorfox4782 2 месяца назад
Lots. All bots of CCP
@kongwee1978
@kongwee1978 2 месяца назад
There are many chinese earning YT award.
@longlivefreedom9853
@longlivefreedom9853 2 месяца назад
Autocracies need to be contained not encouraged..... THEY KNOW THAT ! and SO DO WE ! So what do you get.... You get ruthless with a big R
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