'Death by now is an old companion, but for Jean, we will face it again' :( 'She stands only to the shoulder of the shortest man, but all of us must look up to speak to her' :( These cutscenes were written so well. To think how a mere teenage girl brought an army back on its feet.
Age of Empires II: Age of Kings was written in the time of Shouzou Kaga, when video game writers have proven extremely proficient at writing fantastic lines which immersed you at the very first second. Shame how writers not only go on strike nowadays, but in general, they just aren't as skilled as the writers of old. Thankfully, there are exceptions. Rajendra's campaign (Dynasties of India, 2022) also has fantastic lines, such as Rajendra himself saying he doubts he would pass his father's story to his own son.
I'll admit its not as good as Joan's or El Cid's- but "reeks of tutorials"??? it literally *was* a tutorial, bro. It had to include all that shit to shoehorn in "why are we collecting relics? b/c x" "why are we just farming and mining gold? b/c y" etc. If anything I think William Wallace's campaign is a perfect example of how a tutorial *should* be. Plus, I'm a sucker for Scottish accents ("Wallace's own sword is a five-and-a-half foot beast, FORGED OF COURSE IN SCOTLAND" is just so badass ^.^)
I actually thought these were incredibly well acted and narrated. It got the me so interested in history as an elementary school student. My friends and teachers were be surprised by my sudden interest in medieval military history haha
Also the narration. I am playing Age of Empires II Definitive Edition right now and after a cutscene I pause and watch it here on RU-vid. The original narration is just some much better, night and day.
I really like how they ended. I also remember crying when they said that Joan died. This was my first campaign after Wallace so I had no clue they could die before the last mission.
Me too, the end of Scenario 3, the beginning and end of Scenario 5, and the intro of Scenario 6, gave me nightmares to that day, as if the Ghoulish Spectre of Joan of Arc, with her armor on, head down towards the mirror, and her eyes rolled to the back of her head, came back from the dead in an attempt to haunt France.
@@usmi92 Yeah, sometimes on both sides, the bright side and the dark side in my opinion, in the end of Scenario 5 when Josselyne narrated that the defeat in Paris and Joan's capture at Compiègne was France's darkest hour was a bit spooky and chilling to me though, it was nothing compared to Germany's occupation of France in 1940 during WWII.
Props to AOE designers who created such involving campaigns, with great storytelling and even character development. Definitely a work of love. Historical accuracy can be definitely secondary in this case. We can always search up the facts and know the truth whenever we want, anyway, but to feel like you're in the story is another thing entirely.
i always saw it as an artistic decision , since the campaigns are account of peoples that were there , they would ambelish certain parts , have clear bias toward some peoples and so not be accurate about them just how certain account of for exemple roman emperors IRL are clearly biased cause the people who wrote them werent fond of them
I really do enjoy the much improved and much more authentic choices they made for voice actors. The accents could get a little silly in the original version. But there is a certain... something that's lacking in them. The originals had a certain charm. There was an energy and enthusiasm to them that that the Definitive Edition cutscenes don't replicate.
@@FlorenceFox I highly doubt that what they made in DE is accurate to the historical accents of the time, and since it is not there is no point in making it more "realistic" and "authentic", especially if they are losing on the emotion and voice acting.
@@FlymanMS Agreed. Plus the words wouldn’t have been spoken in modern day English, so why not say that the Definitive Edition should’ve also had the narrations done in the actual languages of their times? At the end of the day, I’d rather have the passion and enthusiasm that was originally there than blandness with a bit more historical authenticity. There was no need to change these cutscenes in any way.
wow so i just came to this because they changed the voice actor and music in the DE and was like wtf this is not the same, this guys voice and the music here is so much better like wow bad change there
the will of a young girl turned a century of defeats into a grandious victory, and Thomas Astruc insults her with the haircut she has as an ancient Ladybug
I first heard about Joan of Arc by playing this campaign in Age of Empires II. She is the most inspirational woman in european history to me. Others may have been intelligent and powerful rulers, like Elizabeth I, Queen Victoria, Maria Theresia, Catherine the Great etc, but none of them fought to liberate their country from foreign oppression on the field of battle like a common foot soldier, and that is the kind of bravery that separates true heroes from smart politicians. Joan was the Alexander of her time and arguably did more for her country as a woman of God than Jesus the Christ the "son of god" who just held a few sermons promising his people imaginary rewards in the afterlife while leaving them under roman oppression. A book I can recommend about Joan is the one written by Pamela Marcantel. Its a shame Hollywood never made a big movie about this except the one with Mila Jovovich but imo that one wasnt so good due to being low budget.
The Jews rejected Jesus, largely because He wasn't the military messiah they wanted. His mission was something far greater. He's done more for the salvation of men in this world, than any other men that ever lived in it.
lol thats funny as a non believer I have always thought Joann Of Arc is the coolest of saints because every other saint history I heard involve promises and some kind of magic stuff related to miracles and divine intervention, but Joann Of Arc literally fought in the front lines and made his country make a monumental comeback from a war they were loosing big time as a mere 17 years old girl, not even Jesus has such a story
@@Liberator2460 "Sleep in the saddle. Drink the rain. Eat nothing but dried meat, dried milk and horse blood. Such is the life of a Mongol at war." ~ Narrator
what if Joan had survived and she and the rest of France had manage to drive the English out of France. Do you then think that Joan would replace her armor with a gown and her helmet with a crown?. In other words become the Queen of France, (not that she take it from Charles VII., (the king in the campaign.), but by MARRYING HIM.)
Did anyone else get annoyed at the fact they miscalled the English as British or is that just me, I know it’s only for a little of the overall campaign but it still annoys me to no end.
@@puedenllamarmeDarkStar Because she was motivated by God and her love for her country. When you fight for the sake of merely who you are, that's when it gets cringy (like modern day feminists).
Much more than a story of lack of funds from Charles VII, it's something we're today still not able to explain. It was most probably because Joan was captured by the Burgundians and sold to the British in the first place, and the Brits didn't want to see Joan come back to France and lead their armies. She landed a heavy strike on the british occupation in France, liberating cities and demolishing the idea that England's army was invincible. She was a huge political enemy for the British so putting a ransom for her was out of the question, they couldn't afford to free her. And also the fact that the King may have seen her as a threat for his influence among his subjects might be an explanation.
Well sceanrios and storytelling is innacurate for entertaining as well Once Charles VII was crowned, wind started to turn for Joan on the battlefield. failing at the Siege of Paris, the scepticism of the concellors and Charles went back. When she heard about Compiègne being attacked, she asked the king who refused to rescue the city and then she decided to go at Compiègne without him knowing. Paying the ranson wasn't a guarantee to obtain her as the english could raise it to obtain Joan, or the Burgundians could refuse to deliver her to te french. Joan setting her feet in the wrong place on her own did played as well. Still Charles sent money to french commanders like La Hire that wanted to deliver La Pucelle... saddly, La Hire was captured in an attempt and break free a year later. Meanwhile, La Pucelle was burned down.
For her yes, but by igniting the flame of nationalism she was the one to bring victory to te french army, even for the last battle at Castilon, which happenned 20 years after her death
history records weren't too accurated at these times, they only became semingly accurated starting with 20th century maybe that Guy Josselyne is inaccurate, he's a fictional character, and La Hire reaching till the historical battle from the final mission, but give them a chance
Well actually, many things that the narrator is telling are 100% true and accurate, like the fact that Joan's acts reignited a sense of French nationalism by creating among the peasanary and nobility the feeling of belonging to the same nation, since then it was France first before the lords and kings.
@@veliocasse8587 i won't say "many" as it's only following a main line and many details are skipped or modified to better suit the storytelling and entertaiement of a video game Like, no year is given in the journal and it needed 20 years after Joan's trial to finally end the Hundred years war. The "siege of Paris" is actually breaking through then reach Compiègne. In reality, Joan failed at Paris, then went back in a castle where the army was settled and Joan heard Compiègne being under attack. She asked the king to rescue the city, he refused and Jeanne went on her own.
Playing from steam? Go to local files -> Verify integrity of game files. I remember having the same issue as you do/did, that should help if it's still not resolved.
