Passed down to you by Cuauhtemoc makes me shiver. But it's the flute which makes the hair stand up on my skin and sends me back in time almost 18 years.
Not sure if they tried to get the same people to do it. I don't think they have kept the original voices though as they had to redo it. I agree the original voices are top notch.. You can hear the emotion in the narrtors voice!
This game more than any other in my life built a love of History for me. Every campaign made me want to know more about these great people. It really made history come alive!
100 % agree. AoE 2's campaigns may be more simple in their presentation compared to its competitors at that time, but the storytelling made it so immersive
it's just disheartening that even today Central & South American ppl confuse honest English ppl whom were escaping tax in their own land as the Murderous thieves from Spain
+Travis Smith you mean the same good english people that exterminate the north natives? cause spanish only eliminate the sacrifices and all about that, they never exterminated the natives cause they didnt hate different people as the compasive english people.
Travis Smith 9 out of 10 were killed by european diseases, but this happensa equal in north than south and the north natives are now exterminated while in south spanish had childs with natives. Maybe you dont want to see it but english people hate natives and treat them as animals, while spanish just hate all the religions about sacrifising humans.
Travis Smith I cant trust you cause you tell me that Cherokee was very important for your people but they killed them ALL, such weird way to demostrate it. If spanish were trash, the murders were your ancestors are even worse. They killed those who helped them... such nice people, very fair to their allies.
I know AoE is liberal with historical accuracy, but even still, playing this campaign as a child, seeing a (romanticized) account of my ancestors final days, this was a somber six missions. This game truly molded me growing up.
Parts such as the poem of the broken spears or the description of the Spanish wearing iron clothes and having a floating tower are accurate and come from witnesses who described their experiences to the conquistadors.
The most glaring error was portraying the Aztecs as living in the middle of the jungle. While that's appropriate for the Maya, the Yucatan peninsula is indeed mostly jungle. Tenochtitlan (modern day Mexico City) is located in a high altitude (7350 ft) temperate forest. The lands between Mexico City and Tlaxcala are higher in elevation still, and it's cold and rainy pine tree forests
Loved this campaign. To this day when I read about the Aztec empire I hear this actor's voice. The way he annunciates Tenochtitlan. Hah brings back memories
Montezuma: Best and most emotional cutscene.. really made me sad. I felt more connected to the Aztecs than any other Civs. El Cid: Best plot twist Genghis/Atilla: Epic cutscene Barbarossa: Meh Joan: Wow.. brave Joan
AOE2 is one of the best games of all times. I remember playing it in school as we did not have computer back then at home. I was so fascinated by everything in this games from the graphics, buildings, culture and best of all the music which added a sense of authenticity. This was what makes a game interesting rather than today's how many women in game how many trans in game debates.
If this guy or someone with a bit as much passion would do a podcast series with this kind of music it would blow the podcast world and be an instant hit.
I can relate this campaign so much to myself.The feeling of being cheated on putting faith in someone be it a deity or man.When you loose all just because u trusted someone.
The aztecs mistaking the spaniards as gods or divine messengers is thought nowadays to be an apocryphal tale. Even in the narration, Guahtemoc said they didn't look like gods to him.
The acting as well as the accent are amazing. He pronouced the nauhatl names so well. The Definitive Edition sucks in any language. For this edition I found the Castillian Spanish version and it isn’t as cool. I haven’t found Latin American Spanish version for this edition but I would love to hear it. It would be more authentic I guess
Castillian spanish dub in the original AoE II is still fine and quite good in some narrations like the mongol campaign. Latin american dub in DE in the other hand is not only bad but it has some glaring translation errors.
The acting was on entirely different levels. To this day (even after I started getting work myself as a professional voice actor) this guy still ranks as one of the best in my book, when it comes to emotion and storytelling.
Meanwhile, there's a mod when playing Definitive Edition in English that replaces the new narration + campaign voice overs for the AoK and Conquerors campaigns with their original counterparts.
Is it just me or could the Spanish easily have converted Cuauhtemoc to Christianity had they begun there instead of using blunt violence, it was clear from the beginning that he was repulsed by all that sacrifice his people had to make. I think that a monk would easily could convince him to worship God instead of Quetzalcoatl. Then all they needed was to silently get rid of Montezuma and Cuahtemoc would be emperor making all of the Empire a Spanish colony. But the greed for gold and wish for conquest clouded Cortes's judgement.
The campaign shows Cuahtemoc being disgusted by the sacrifices, or at least not trusting entirely on their efficiency. The real historical Cuahtemoc, however, was a full supporter of more sacrifices. It must be said, however, that the Spaniards were helped by the Aztec obsession with sacrifices: Not only the Tlaxcalans, but many other native Altepetl (city-states) joined the Conquistadors to get rid from Aztec supremacy over central Mexico, and because they were tired of constant wars in name of sacrifices.
I am replaying this in Aoe 2 DE, and it's just not the same with the new voice actor, a long with the other old campaigns where they grabbed new voice actors.
they say the religious sacrifices was a recent new tradition of the nahuatl religion. They say human sacrifice evokes black death magic that can bring doom and destruction if not manipulated properly. Perhaps it was these recent circumstances that paved the way for the spaniard conquest of central america, and later the andes.
Perhaps when the Aztecs reached the pinnacle of their human sacrificing days, God sent in the Spanish to put an end to it. Just as God let the Assyrians conquer the corrupted kingdom of Israel.
ZaqueHunzahua ... God won't support His people if they fail to obey His commandments. But the Christian God never commanded His people to rip out the beating hearts of human victims, night after night.
Human sacrifice in the Aztec Empire was a fairly uncommon thing for much of its history, but it was a longstanding tradition. It was actually seen as a prestigious fate, as the sacrificed would be sent to aid the gods, and so was usually given to people at the end of a long life. This changed with the first Emperor Montezuma, the grandfather of Montezuma II that we see in this campaign. Montezuma I was both bloodthirsty and a keen political operator, and manipulated the Aztec priesthood and society to start using human sacrifice as a way to dispose of political enemies--the excuse being that the gods needed more sacrifice to help them keep the world going. This created a feedback loop, so by the time of Montezuma II, the Aztecs had been "flower warring" their neighbors for sacrificial captives at an extreme rate, and people were becoming more and more convinced the end of the world was nigh because of how huge and hysterical the sacrifices were getting. They were always overexaggerated in the Spanish accounts, mind--the population of Central Mexico at the time wouldn't have been nearly large enough to support what the Spanish claimed for any length of time. But they were getting worryingly large, and many of the surrounding tribes were all too willing to ally with the Spanish to crush the Aztecs by that point. Of course, the Spanish turned out to be even worse--there are worse fates than having your heart cut out. But at the time, there was no way to know that.
@@InchonDM Worse? Not so sure about this. Spanish of course did behave as conquerors, but didn't only destroyed and exploited. They built many things, and most of spanish allies who helped the conquest were fairly rewarded, such as the Tlaxcala, who were granted many priveleges. Only their enemies did suffer the domination.
While the game takes it liberties with who won the war it emphasizes how the day the Aztec Empire had ended. It does not pull its punches the damage caused by the Spanish with the European diseases and the destruction wrought upon the city. The diseases wrecking havoc is especially terrifying since out narrator has no idea what it is.
From what i know, he says some names wrong. He says tenochitlan, while its tenochtitlan, and texcoco, from what i know it should be pronounced Teshcoco not Texcoco, same with tlaxcala, its tlashcala. But I haven't learned much of Nahuatl.
@@theorebiere7711 Sorry buddy, but these words come from a real language, Nahuatl, with 1 million native speakers even now. There's only one correct way to pronounce it and that's the Nahuatl way. It takes minimal effort to actually look it up and just put a little effort into respecting the culture, language and people.
@@caimaccoinnich9594 Doesn't matter what the words in Nahuatl are, words and pronunciation change from language to language. Welcome to the world of language.
@@mertcanduran9049 they did use it. After the riot against Pizarro the Incas of Vilcabamba gathered a cavalry force and learned how to make gunpowder from the rebels who sided with Manco Inca. Then they surprised the spaniards in the battle of Jauja and Ollantatytambo with a bronze canon attack that broke spaniard lines.
ZaqueHunzahua It was a solar eclipse in the movie Apocalypto, and I meant that example in a 'my guess is as good as yours' kind of way assuming you're unsure if it was a comet. To answer my own question and C. C. Prasad's, it seems like nobody actually knows. One of the omens described resembles comets, but the 'flaming ear of corn' hasn't been likened to any other phenomenon in my brief search. I'm just going to conclude that nobody actually knows.
ZaqueHunzahua That's kind of the point. Apocalypto took parts of the Mayans and the Aztecs in its fictional telling. It should be obvious to anyone that it's fictional and full of inaccuracies - again I feel you've missed the point I was trying to make (it wasn't an argument). I just wanted to know whether you were taking a guess or not that's all, because I was genuinely curious.
Digas lo que digas, España fue el imperio más poderoso de la tierra; su grandeza habla por sí sola. El idioma español es el segundo más hablado del mundo por hablantes nativos, la cultura española se mezcló con la indígena y la africana para dar lugar a la masa territorial con mayor cohesión cultural del planeta: América Latina! Un imperio que se mantuvo intacto por 300 años, que defendió los derechos de los indígenas (a diferencia de los ingleses genocidas), un poder internacional que sin embargo trató a sus territorios de ultramar como provincias y no como meras colonias, que construyó universidades, caminos, puentes, fortalezas y ciudades.
Eso del idioma no es grandeza, es linguistica... Desarollo cultural es lo que define a un gran impero, no su extencion territorial. Eso de intacto.. te contaron lo que paso en Holanda? Heredaron lo de los Hapsburgo en Europa, y el dinero lo tomaron de America, que defendieron indigenas?... y mira tu frase.. "conquistadora del mundo", eso que tanto les criticas a los ingleses..
