Having an IEP and needing extra help in school don't make anyone a murderer. This thug murdered this beautiful, young girl to see how it felt. He believed he could get away with it. Don't get me started with his mother.
Ok, but no one said it did. I get that you guys are emotional about this, it’s a horrific case, but this dude is merely getting the facts, not implying an IEP= psychopathy. No one thinks that.
@@kbo730 the Psychiatrist stated intellectual ability was all there, but the IEP was for a lack of motivation & behavioural issues. His Sport teacher also stated he was cocky, argumentative & very physically aggresive to his peers. The feedback from all his other teachers was the same , this teacher mentioning those traits too. also
I had an IEP bc of my dyslexia. I now have a 3.8 in university and hope to become a doctor. An IEP doesn’t mean you’re stupid. It just means you have a learning disability. But not all learning disabilities are ones that cause a low IQ either… so so SO many kids have IEP for multiple different reasons. Him being an IEP kid has NOTHING to do with him being a psychopath and quite frankly I’m offended and disgusted that his IEP is even being brought up as an excuse for his actions. Edit: To all of you replying, y’all do realize the ONLY reason this was even mentioned was because they’re trying to spin it as a reason he could’ve gone crazy and killed the girl. He also has brown hair. No one’s mentioning that because it has NOTHING to do with ANYTHING. And NEITHER does is IEP. Yet they’re STILL bringing it up! Why? Because his lawyer is trying to spin his IEP as a reason to why he may be disturbed. So pleas spare me. I am not making a “logical fallacy”. Just an objective observation.
IEP just means the student has SOME medical diagnosis that affects learning. No one is saying that IEP= being a psychopath. You’re committing a logical fallacy by inferring that. I’m a teacher and I also had an IEP. And you’re right, it has nothing to do with intelligence. I graduated HS and college with honors. The lawyer is just doing his job here. If that question bothers you then please don’t take offense but you may not wanna watch trials and def not true crime.
Thank you Kate Ashby for saying it for people who don't realise. The lawyer is just doing his job,he has to defend his client eventhough it's very hard especially if he knows this person did do the crime like Aiden here. If the lawyer does not do his job properly there can be call for a mistrial which nobody wants. It is everyone's right to have representation. This is what democracy is about, after all if you were being prosecuted despite not being guilty of a crime, would you not want your lawyer to do his job to the best of his ability. I hope this makes sense. Having said that i do understand and yes it is frustrating.
Both of my sons had IEP.. they are now wonderful grown adult men. My oldest still deals with ADHD.. he learned to control it. My boys have and always had the kindest hearts. Aiden is not human. There is no heart. This is somebodies baby boy who turned out to be a monster. I may get jumped on by many people but because the mom was caught washing his clothes and trying to hide such a horrible incident tells me she has always covered up and or made excuses for him which totally ruined this nonhuman. This is what happens when there is no or very little consequences.
ADHD is so common like every other kid has it and maybe the most common “diagnosis” and literally every troubled kid or learning disabled kid is diagnosed with it. I’m pretty sure I was diagnosed with it cause I was a troubled kid with “a learning disability”
@@_KaiRos-11 ADHD is a Phony Condition created to sell Pharma Drugs. Lion Eisenberg admitted this on his death bed. He created the fake condition. Sheep love their "Crutch's" .aka...Excuses.
ADHD is a Phony Condition created to sell Pharma Drugs. Lion Eisenberg admitted this on his death bed. He created the fake condition. Sheep love their "Crutch's" .aka...Excuses.
Learning disabilities don’t make someone a murderer. He must have seen something online that he wanted to copy and emulate. But to want to destroy instead of create is a mental illness. We need to teach kids to create . Rest in peace young beautiful child. I am so in pain that you suffered this way and that you never got to grow with your family. Wishing healing and peace for her family.
The teacher & the psychiatrist both made the distinction that intellectual ability was there, it was motivation & aggressive, argumentative, cocky behaviour that were the issues. The sports teacher also said he was physically aggressive to other students & argumentative with the sports teacher. As an ex teacher they are the most difficult because you know they're capable of more but they just can't or won't co operate. They usually end up out of mainstream education by age 12-13 & in schools specifically for behavioural issues.
She was def not looking at her students wondering if one of them would commit a horrendous murder based off the fact he had an IEP… leave her alone, she’s a special Ed teacher… she has many students too look after
I.E.P = Individualized Educational Plan. It is a modified and assisted means of providing information to a student to better their understanding and dissimilating their ability to complete a task. An IEP can provide speech therapy, physical therapy, additional time for testing or alternative testing sites, behavioral therapy, cognitive therapy, group settings, for some examples. Some students learn at different rates, learn using different methods, learn better under low distraction means, etc.
Yes! I was just shouting this! No, the IEP is not for "motivation". Even if this young man spends the rest of his life in prison, they shouldn't penalize or stigmatize any child for needing an IEP.
I had an IEP as an advanced student. It can be for those who need more help or those who aren’t being challenged enough. Regardless of the reason, it has nothing to do with the attitude of a person necessarily but mostly about their academic aptitudes and needs
So grateful to see the Moms speak up of their successful children who have children who also have or had IEPs or learning disabilities ADHD/autism/social anxiety disorder. This was not fair and very discouraging etc for children who have hearts and wouldn't harm a fly but are challenged with learning.
I drive special needs children daily, who have I.E.P's. those have nothing to do with the child being a cold hearted, calculating killer. Many factors affect these children, whom I call my "babies & kids". I feel bad for this family. Prayers for her family. My heart hurts for them, and the grandma. However, no family is as perfect as she's saying. Prayers that you all can find strength to go forward. 💔💔💔
@@300_42 worried someone will blame her?? She seen him every day, even allowed him to go to the Dean a few times due to his behavior. So you STFU!! Definitely a family member or a friend.. Bias at its best!!
If you have a child go hug it and pray someone like this lil punk has no access to them. And pray someone will speak up for odd behavior. As this useless person Didn’t. AGAIN, she knows more than she is saying!!
🤡 Let's not forget Alex Murdaugh fit this description too. He wasn't openly violent and was also seemingly respectful to adults. What's that got to do with the crime?
Ok news junkie not everyone lives in the 25 hour media cycle. You’re making this video into a red herring. if you actually pay attention, knowing a person’s behavior can shed light on their actions and help explain their crimes.
Yes but a serial killer is not Alex nor this kid are a serial killer you have to have 3 or more kills and not be caught for a long period of time, These two are just killers Not serial killers, killers yes but not serial killers learn the difference. They are all terrible people. That we can agree on
I live in Canada 🇨🇦 but having struggles in school 🏫 and needing special help is separate from a teenager wanting to murder just to watch them die. I understand this teacher did the best she could and it’s hard for 1 teacher to see everything. So I don’t blame her for missing certain behaviour issues with him. His mother on the other hand tampered with evidence and covered up a crime. Aidan and his mother are both where they belong.
His IEP is totally separate from his choices . He knew and bragged early on of ending a life . Been around alot of cognitive challenged young people that would never harm another human being.
I’m sorry but there’s a lot of kids like this,, children are killing themselves or others for clout. Social media and this Godless world is creating these types of self centered narcissists. Where is his family in all this? Make them answer these questions. Teachers can only do so much. I feel terrible for Tristan’s family.
I didn't know my brother heard voices until he was 40 yrs old and had just gotten out of prison. All this is neither here nor there for what Aiden did, in my opinion. There's no reason to roast the teacher like she's out to deceive people. She's clearly just pulled into this for purely circumstantial reasons.
I had a learning disability got no help when I was younger,I was told I was too far gone,I retired from my job of 32 years,I own my own house and paid for,I worked for everything in my life even though I could not go to college.
I had an IEP in school from kindergarten all the way up to 12th grade because I am totally blind and I have some other things that I won’t go into. I could never think of killing anything but a bag of junk food and a case of beer is an adult.
@@m.lorigami Are you seriously trying to correct my grammar and sentence structure? Please take a look at your own, as it’s pure trash! For the record, the sentence and grammatical errors were intentional. What’s your excuse?
@@FabiolaMacabre Defensive effect for sure. I am sure the St Johns School Legal team is squirming. She and the Dean were clearly guarded and concerned for the district. Trystan’s oldest sister more than made it clear, the school failed by not seeing signs of deviance in AF.
It appears as though she is trying to protect him, but I feel like she is trying to protect herself and/or her career. It seems to me, with my limited experience in a masters program for school counseling, that parents may feel uncomfortable with her continuing to work with their children after giving testimony that could expose the confidential details of Fucci’s IEP. I also feel like she would’ve had to notice violent drawings in notebooks, ideation, or behavior. If she were to admit to that on the stand, she would lose her license as she is a mandated reporter. And yes, a mandated reporter should also report if a student is a danger to others.
@@megingenbrandt yes, I agree with you. It’s sort of a dilemma but your last point is very important. Did she bring that information to the attention of all concerned - Dean of Behaviour, his parents, etc. Also, I wonder if she was asked these questions in private but the court was notified? I’m from India so I don’t know how it works there.
She did say she is an admin now. She can’t admit to not doing what she is supposed to hold other educators to do. She is a mandated reporter so she could be in a lot of trouble for not reporting. Or she is one of the two faced ones in the schools that was saying a lot in deposition she doesn’t want to say with him and his family looking at her. It did feel like she was irritated from the beginning.
What signs ? That he didn’t like school, was argumentative, and arrogant, I was all those things also that’s being a teen. He didn’t show signs he was gonna murder someone
@@FabiolaMacabre yes, that's the impression I am getting from her squirming after she realised that she had "forgotten" what she said in deposition....
The school had to see more than they are telling and did not act on it. No child commits such a haneous act and shows no signs at all to all the adults he's in contact with. None of these people seen any alarming behavior? Not one of them??? I don't believe it.
Pam Sawyer Act on it how? And I'm usually not the spelling police, but since you're speaking on things that you don't know about, it's "heinous" and "saw"
It's true the school might be trying to protect themselves from being accused of not taking the necessary steps and/or alerting the right people about disturbing behaviour witnessed at school. But they also may have just seen the same behaviour in Aiden that they see in a lot of kids but had never amounted to anything terrible. Who knows.
I had an IEP. And I can say without a doubt that those in IEP it is not a personality issue. It’s to help the part of your brain that cannot learn certain things basically. Whether that be actual school work, learning to listen, etc. it is not a behavioral help. Aiden had an IEP and had learning disabilities. But that did MOT cause him to murder this poor girl. People in my school thought those like me with IEPs were like kids in psych wards basically. We were treated differently when really our mentality and our personalities were normal but our learning function was not. If someone had a behavioral issue they were sent to a different person that specializes in that. I can’t process mathematics like a normal person can. I cannot understand understand math past a 3rd grade level. But I went to college, I have a great job. People with IEP’s learn patience, confidence, hard work, and kindness. Aiden was violent, he had issues and it was overlooked. I had a kid in my IEP group the same way. Attention was always on him and taken from us. He later tried to shoot the school up. Aiden never should have been put in IEP but something a lot more advanced that can help with his learning disabilities but also his behavior.
@@i_palindrone_i but it will show abnormalities and we can learn more about psychopaths if in fact that's what he is. It might even help prevent future murders like this from happening if we could see how they think.
@@heyitmaggie2390 Oh I don't know, disrespect, threatening to throw one student out the window, talking back, acting ignorant, skipping classes, telling people that he wanted to and was going to kill someone... etc etc etc
I’m sorry but I can tell her cockiness all over her nonverbal communication I think that he showed major signs and she don’t wanna get in trouble for being lazy and not reporting any of it that’s why he had to keep recalling her on her deposition listen people that are teachers in this world OK as a nurse when you have an assessment as a nurse or a teacher or an intuition you need to act on it and you need to follow up on it regardless of how others may perceive you regardless of what you think maybe the outcome usually a woman’s intuition is right and maybe if she had acted on some of his bizarre behaviors then clearly this could’ve potentially been avoided and I’m not blaming her I’m just saying you can see that this is a parent because she does not want to get in trouble for not Reporting some of his odd argumentative aggressive behaviors because then that would be negligence on her part for not reporting it as a teacher but honestly like shit she was like smirky in this
This woman is a poor excuse for a professional. Trying to make Aiden look innocent. It's not her job to do that but to be forthright with the court about Aiden being a troublemaker, his troubling personality and antisocial behavior with teachers and others so the court understand the truth which is so obvious that he's a DANGER to society. Sad professionals try to mask the truth of a criminal in the making perhaps because she or the school is afraid this will look bad on them for not having shared earlier signs of danger and not being singled out for it. Well now would be the time to vindicate that mistake
Thank u! This is totally irrelevant!! All kids can have learning struggles, cocky, defiant to teachers, lazy, etc etc. that doesn’t make them a murderer!
@@bexmac8136 Everytime the prosecutor had her read over her disposition was because she changed her story. When he would ask did you lie on your disposition was because she had changed what she had said. Her answers were vague & noncommittal like she didn't think the same about the things that stood out to her before, she wanted to change her statement and make it come across as he wasn't a bad student, didn't get in trouble, threaten people, treat the teachers like crap. I just found it odd that she would be willing to potentially face purjury for lying either in court or the deposition.
Now she’s a administrator at the time they talked to her she was a resource teacher administrators are very close mouth due to due to repercussions from higher up. If he was IEP, and had special education, teachers tells me that he had issues in school whether it was from learning or behavior.
In Florida, every student with a disability who is eligible for exceptional student education (ESE) services will have an IEP. An IEP is a written plan for the special education of a student with a disability. Some ESE students are in smaller classrooms only with other ESE students; sometimes they attend classes with the general population of the school (and often an aide is there with them then). The details of how these kinds of accommodations to learning are decided upon and implemented vary from from state to state. They are not about "motivating" students and I think she was not happy with the questions she was being asked - to me they were clearly manipulated to make it sound like an IEP student is always not motivated and needs to "be motivated" which is totally untrue. Or that every kid who argues with a teacher gets reported to higher ups, also totally untrue. ESE teachers (they are called SPED in my state) are often amazing people with beautiful classroom management skills. I also know that some students are very adept at hiding personal stuff from adults, especially 14 yos. So no, I don't think she is lying. I think she knows how little most people know about ESE or SPED classrooms and it makes her cautious.
WHAT HAS THIS GOT TO DO WITH ANYTHING JUST TIME WASTERS, IT DOESN'T MATTER IF SOMEONE IS EVEN A PERFECT STUDENT, THE FACT IS THAT'S ALL IRRELEVANT NOW, HE BUTCHED SOMEONE END OF STORY, JAIL OR LETHAL INJECTION TIME!
Good comment, this scumbag enrages me,cos if he killed my child I would like to see his demise,many commentators here think they are analysts, want to know why,don't care about why,let's keep it simple,
I was in special Ed all my life special day class when I was younger and I’d say I was fustrated hated being looked at like the dumb kid like we didn’t matter but never have I ever thought about harming someone I had an IEP all throughout high school so I can relate I get the frustration how people look at you diffrently but I took it as an advantage I was angry as a child why was I diffrent why was I bullied just why there is no excuse for his actions it’s evil its the devil I pray for the family I’m so sorry
My perception of WHY they are bringing up the IEP is to show that his cocky attitude, issues with adult authority figures contributed to the reason why he was falling behind in certain areas (hence why he had an IEP) An IEP is a tool that schools use to help catch students who are in a position of falling behind their peers academically. Aiden’s problem was his ATTITUDE and his completely enabling mother. (My opinion) In a different household with a mother who held him responsible for his actions and attitude - this entire situation would not have happened
Do you want to lock up the parents as well? Why not the grandparents, uncles, aunts, shopkeeper who sold them groceries; this desire for extending blame and retribution to others around that boy CHILD is malicious :(
@@valmacclinchy we've been, not really getting anywhere because ultimately it's up to the co-op, I just help him the best I can and try to praise the hell out of him and tell him it's ok when he has a tougher time so he doesn't get down on himself like he used to when I first got him, he's my step son and I've only had him for the past two years now. Luckily we adore each other so we can get through it together.
There is an evaluation process. Sometimes when the evaluation is completed, it’s found that some children no longer qualify for an iep. Teachers celebrate this because it means that the services have been successful and the student has progressed. If you feel as though the evaluation is incorrect, there are options for parents to pursue further.
@@Zeppelin2 the kid goes into foster care, behaviors all over the place, I'm here to try and keep him on track and that's when they take it, when he's at his most vulnerable, it was cruel is what it was, he already lost everything he knew, now let's take his Para away. It was not ok and it's still not ok and I've gotten nowhere.
She really didn’t know much for being his teacher. Well, she’s not actually his teacher. She’s more of an Educators Assistant. And her weird smirk is so off beat.
Why is this relevant at all? There are plenty of people who have learning disabilities and do not commit horrendous crimes. Rest easy sweet girl and now this monster will stay in prison.
still don't know what happened in Aiden's home. Do his parents, or other of Aiden's family, get interviewed... ? Something very 'un-normal'stuff would have been happening, for this young person to be so violent/resentful.
Some people are just born evil. Sometimes the change comes with adolescence. This kid most likely never had to face any negative consequences for his actions at home. As long as he got his way, all was good. I wouldn’t take this teacher testimony with much faith. She says he was respectful towards adults, than later stated he could be cocky and argumentative. That’s far from being respectful. Seems like this ESE teacher needs an ESE teacher.
A psychologist testified that Aiden had told his girlfriend that his biological father had choked him, slapped him and punched him and that he generally did not feel liked in neither his mother´s nor his father´s house. Also, his mother was not a very good mother figure. I see people saying that some are just born evil. I don´t think so - unless there is some severe brain damage, which very, very rarely is. Making children feel they are unloved and slapping, choking and punching them around is a sure way of doing A LOT of damage. It´s the parents, maybe especially the bio father. Combined of course with some specific traits in Aiden that got activated through the abuse he received: not all abused children commit horrid crimes (but many do become violent themselves though.) Please people. stop hitting your kids as a disciplinary action, it only makes things worse and harms them for life.
I had a IEP and was in Special Ed. Some kids that have IEPS are just kids who parents don't parent. They are the kids who run in restaurants they are the kids parents are permissive they aren't disciplined. Aiden's parents didn't discipline him. They never taught him right from wrong.
I don't think she wanted to tell about AF's isses. But AF did it on his own through his writings of his plans. With his friends, he probably thought he was hot stuff.
