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"Ain't nothing more expensive than a cheap boat!" Repairs are more expensive than hoped. | EP 05 

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An awful bottom cleaning job, a temp fuel tank, tightening the shrouds, and we finally motor the 7 miles from marina to haul out at Cabrillo Boat Shop. And worst of all, we find out how much we're gonna have to spend to cover the most basic repairs on the bottom of our 1970 Cheoy Lee 36' sloop. Old sailboats are awesome and we love them... but there are some harsh realities to face when facing the costs of repairing, servicing, retrofitting and more.
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@DavidLawFilms
@DavidLawFilms 5 месяцев назад
New boats are expensive too, take just as much maintenance and use more expensive parts. You're doing great, you'll be much happier with the classic boat later on and you'll know it through and through.
@OffshoreEsprit
@OffshoreEsprit 5 месяцев назад
Thanks Dave. My sentiments exactly.
@suzannechance5876
@suzannechance5876 4 месяца назад
I do wish you luck and you will need it......But from an old sailor hear this....Have fun, learn to sail your fine Choy Lee and cherish her. She is now a member of your family. TAKE CARE OF HER. She won't let you down! That old Perkins is worth keeping, like the old British Sea Gull, cant stop em! Bon voyage!
@OffshoreEsprit
@OffshoreEsprit 4 месяца назад
Thanks so much for the boost of confidence Suzanne!
@Lana_Warwick
@Lana_Warwick 5 месяцев назад
@0:55 - Get yourself a suitable quality quick release suction cup, like used for installing windows, hold with one hand, clean with the other. A weight belt & cheap 12v compressor/hookah setup can also make it easier, can also be used off the tender over reefs. @2:40 - I took all installed tanks out, only use jerrys (& compost toilet) easy to service, no more stripping the cab/floor if an issue, move around as ballast (i.e. leeward, they don't drink my beer), tender to beach near any cheap gas station vs marina prices, etc. @5:00 - Soften hose in boiling water. Spider hose clamps can let go with changing thermals, automotive stopped using them years ago. Various "tension" clamps are available depending pressure requirement, less joins the better. @7:10 - Worth getting min 2 opinions on rigging, may not be as bad as you think. Consider replacing with dyneema (or some). Retired riggers parked in the marina or at anchor are good, not going to try & upsell you, prob enjoy the time away from his Mrs, have a beer with you. @10:25 - Dodgy bloody hull cleaners, can't trust anyone these days. Plenty of meat left on that prop & anodes. WoW, she ain't seen love in awhile. @12:40 - I only have 3 under waterline thru-hulls, use poly industrial irrigation fittings & lines, no rust/conflict issues. Do my best to avoid marine luxury tax. Automotive, hardware, heavy industrial (i.e. mining, oil rig, etc, supplies) = more $ for beer & rum. Paying others to source, supply, labour is expensive, but if you can make more per hour doing something else, why not. @14:40 LoL! "I get sea sick" so I bought a boat 🤣 @15:15 - Excl age/wear, service parts, windlass shouldn't be an issue using a Bridle & ordinary deckhand. This turned into a long one... In the end the hull is sorted, ensure the anchor & chain is suitable to not drag, get the rigging checked out, ensure all screws/bolts through the deck are sealed correctly (not rotting the core), the rest is cosmetic. Oh & b4 spending Big $, ask youtubes opinion ⛵🍻😉
@OffshoreEsprit
@OffshoreEsprit 5 месяцев назад
Thanks for all the detailed notes Lana! Truly appreciated and some real great suggestions in here. Love the suction cup idea. I'm very interested in replacing rigging with Dyneema... we'll see what happens. I love sailing so much I can't let at little detail like getting seasick get in the way. lol. What's your sailing background? Can tell you've been down these roads before.
@Lana_Warwick
@Lana_Warwick 4 месяца назад
@@OffshoreEsprit Grew up near the water on various family & friends boats, continue owning my own. Worked in heavy industrial, remote mining, earthmoving, offshore drilling (consider the gear they use), etc. Taught me engineering problem-solving skills (shops not just down the road), that there's better quality products to the job vs the ungoverned luxury tax marine industry.
@tomsopinion962
@tomsopinion962 4 месяца назад
Hi, love your video, great humour, and it`s just like it is on boats!
@OffshoreEsprit
@OffshoreEsprit 4 месяца назад
Glad you enjoyed it!
@calprimo11
@calprimo11 5 месяцев назад
Congrats on your Cheoy Lee. She has beautiful lines so be prepared for compliments wherever you take her.
@Ravenlight_303
@Ravenlight_303 5 месяцев назад
'Project Boat', to my knowledge, is another term for 'Life Project.' I love your channel and your project! And your intro Graphics are off the hook! I love'em!
@OffshoreEsprit
@OffshoreEsprit 5 месяцев назад
Yep... Life Project feels like the right term! Thanks for watching!
@JordanOutside
@JordanOutside 5 месяцев назад
This was my favorite episode so far. It had me laughing out loud with your pirate sensoring your crack 😂
@OffshoreEsprit
@OffshoreEsprit 5 месяцев назад
I have to agree. This has been my favorite episode so far as well!
@SkyPilot54
@SkyPilot54 5 месяцев назад
Best way to get an education on boat repair , Also Suggest you crew on a racing sailboat , try it
@jaymclure4482
@jaymclure4482 5 месяцев назад
Good luck with boat. I bought a bargain boat too, an S2 9.2 thirty footer for $2400 from Boat Angel thru ebay. It's 70 miles from where I live. The previous owner helped me move it 1/4 mile to a boat storage facility and gave me the low down on everything. The monthly storage is high but it includes a haul out when I need it. I'm getting ready to have it hauled and start sanding the bottom and paint with antifoul. Hopefully I don't find any other issues underneath. I do plan to pump out the diesel and filter it, before motor sailing down the ICW 90NM to a marina near my home. I need to learn to sail as I go. I may just use the roller jib and the motor the whole way. I plan to use it as a liveaboard within a year or so and go south for the winters , maybe even the Caribbean.
@OffshoreEsprit
@OffshoreEsprit 5 месяцев назад
That's an awesome adventure Jay! Congrats on the new boat. The S2 is a cool boat. Have a safe journey home!
@mikecrockett3669
@mikecrockett3669 5 месяцев назад
Absolutely nailed the title! Great video.
@OffshoreEsprit
@OffshoreEsprit 5 месяцев назад
I have a feeling I'm gonna keep re-learning this lesson in the years to come. But I'm still a sucker for an old boat!
@Dreancaidi
@Dreancaidi 4 месяца назад
Looking forward to following this one. Best of luck!
@OffshoreEsprit
@OffshoreEsprit 4 месяца назад
Welcome aboard!
@michaelstith3196
@michaelstith3196 4 месяца назад
Good luck! 👍👍👍
@stephenduncombe1153
@stephenduncombe1153 4 месяца назад
Pretty boat! If the rig is over 15 yrs old, your next big expense is the running and standing rigging including chainplates. You could do most of that yourselves, but need to come out of the water again. May want to price titanium v. 314 stainless steel. That's a wood mast, no? Good video..Should be fun ( to watch)..As a surveyor on the other coast, I bet I've looked at over a hundred similar vintage sailboats 28'-60'
@OffshoreEsprit
@OffshoreEsprit 4 месяца назад
Thanks for the comment Stephen. Yep, replacing all the standing and running rigging is top of mind these days. I want to do as much as I can myself. Thanks for the recommendation on doing the chain plates in titanium! How do you feel about Dyneema shrouds? I really like what I've seen on some other boats. Curious to know what a surveyor thinks.
@johnmclachlan1023
@johnmclachlan1023 2 месяца назад
Make sure you check all the work especially that all the skin fittings are tightened properly and hoses double clamped. Tie a wooden bung beside every skin fitting/seacock. Cheers
@OffshoreEsprit
@OffshoreEsprit 2 месяца назад
Good advice!
@mseller12
@mseller12 5 месяцев назад
Glad you are getting out there and doing it!
@OffshoreEsprit
@OffshoreEsprit 5 месяцев назад
No better time to get out of your comfort zone than today!
@svlonestar7645
@svlonestar7645 4 месяца назад
It's totally true. Nothing is more expensive . I'm hauling out again for 3 months, hoping that it's short.
@OffshoreEsprit
@OffshoreEsprit 4 месяца назад
Buckle up! :)
@svlonestar7645
@svlonestar7645 4 месяца назад
@OffshoreEsprit to finish everything I didn't do in 2 years ago, another 20k 🫣
@timo2905
@timo2905 5 месяцев назад
great chat. Fair winds!
@julieodom5493
@julieodom5493 5 месяцев назад
Great job. So fun (and stressful)💕
@OffshoreEsprit
@OffshoreEsprit 5 месяцев назад
Thanks Julie! The pendulum swings between both states of mind!
@davidlevitz3119
@davidlevitz3119 5 месяцев назад
GREAT VIDEO ! YOU DID A REAL GOOD JOB !
@OffshoreEsprit
@OffshoreEsprit 5 месяцев назад
Thanks for watching David!
@clivestainlesssteelwomble7665
@clivestainlesssteelwomble7665 5 месяцев назад
See James of Sailing tritea he rebuilt his boat and is now sailing the world .. but he did a series of where and how to's .. very calm and cool guy with old school Sailors body art ..
@OffshoreEsprit
@OffshoreEsprit 5 месяцев назад
Yeah, I follow him. He's a rad dude.
@davethemmp
@davethemmp 5 месяцев назад
Hey guys great job so far, I’m restoring a 30 ‘ Cal 2-30 in the PNW so I’m in the same learning curve, good luck guys I’ll keep watching your weather is a little better, I’m shutdown for the winter and working inside until it warms up. Subscribed 😊
@OffshoreEsprit
@OffshoreEsprit 5 месяцев назад
I see some of these sailors haul out and store their sailboats in large work sheds and I'm like daaang... what luxury! The weather down here in SoCal has been very PNW the past month or so... I'm ready for the sun! Good luck working on your Cal!
@gingerbard2607
@gingerbard2607 5 месяцев назад
Lucky guy. And I'm not thinking of the boat. I'm a solo newbie myself - being off my mooring is tremblingly scary! Lot of money for those repairs!
@gking5522
@gking5522 5 месяцев назад
Hi Guys! I liked your presentation of the realities of owning an OLD boat, (there's no such thing as a "cheap" boat). I also liked your focus on the issues relating to safety and the intention to learn to sail. One other thing, if I heard you correctly: You're in a Boat Yard, not a boat shop! See you next time. 😀
@OffshoreEsprit
@OffshoreEsprit 5 месяцев назад
Good catch on me calling the boat yard the Boat Shop... The name of the actual boat yard is 'Cabrillo Boat Shop'... so I go between them both, but you are 100% correct. I confuse myself sometimes.
@_instabil
@_instabil 5 месяцев назад
Happy to report that I finally found a new nice sailing channel. Keep the videos coming!
@OffshoreEsprit
@OffshoreEsprit 5 месяцев назад
Welcome aboard!
@_instabil
@_instabil 5 месяцев назад
If you like to know how it is to sail on the pacific, I highly recommend a book (and the RU-vid-Channel) of Christian Williams. He is a neighbour of you from Marina del Rey and wrote my bible "Alone together". Cheers from Hamburg!
@_instabil
@_instabil 5 месяцев назад
Its a great audio book for sanding, too
@danielboughton3624
@danielboughton3624 5 месяцев назад
The turnbuckles will gall and be hard to turn if they are stainless. Get a small Mapp gas torch to heat up stuck fittings. You'll probably be doing it often. If you keep the torch on the boat make sure it is in a propane locker. You can filter the diesel into a day tank or your temporary tank to see what you have. It should be usable. Even though this boat might cost as much or more than a ready to go one when you're done the boat will have new components and you will know the condition of things and how to service it. Fitting sizes are said like one quarter or three eights. This will help at the parts counter.
@OffshoreEsprit
@OffshoreEsprit 5 месяцев назад
Thanks Daniel. Yeah, I've made my peace with the reality of how much this will cost to slowly replace or repair each system on boat (engine, electrical, deck, standing rigging, running rigging, etc.) I'll do as much as I can myself of course. I'm considering it the cost of an education in sailboats and the added bonus of being intimately familiar with everything on the boat.
@SlowlySailing-lc1cs
@SlowlySailing-lc1cs 5 месяцев назад
Now that I am immersed in the harsh realities of my own project boat, it's healthy for me to watch channels like these, instead of the (for now) fantasy stuff. Misery loves company, LOL Your list of inspirations from Episode 1 is eerily similar to mine... but there a lot of us, I guess. Lee Hawk has much potential- I didn't actually go look at any Cheoy Lees when I was boat shopping, but they definitely piqued my interest. They seem to have a good reputation, and are all very pretty.
@OffshoreEsprit
@OffshoreEsprit 5 месяцев назад
Some days I feel on top of the world, other days... the opposite of that! Misery does indeed love company. I'll keep an eye on your channel too. A Tahiti is a good looking boat as well. There is actually someone quite like you (novice sailor, first boat) restoring a Tahiti Ketch in my marina.
@joshhartman3902
@joshhartman3902 5 месяцев назад
The little critters clinging to you are called skeleton shrimp.
@mozcoast6758
@mozcoast6758 5 месяцев назад
Good episode, enjoyed following along. Quick comment on temp fuel tanks - I went through the same effort once after a clog shut my engine down in a not-great place… anyhow, I soon learned that the engine ‘return line’ was sending unused diesel back into the permanent tank, which was draining my temp tank very fast - used fuel 4x faster than I was used to - something to keep in mind… fair winds!
@OffshoreEsprit
@OffshoreEsprit 5 месяцев назад
Oh man... I learn about this a little while after this episode. Totally caught me by surprise. lol
@janetjeason1341
@janetjeason1341 5 месяцев назад
We just found your channel and so far have enjoyed what we seen , We are on the Great Lakes in Michigan and we have a motor Cruiser but my husband caught the sailing bug , he wrote down all that you had done to the boat and asked the service department about how much it would cost to do all of those repairs , It seems like California has extreamly high prices , our marina quoted $7.000 dollars for those repairs . We are looking forward to seeing more of your videos...Our dock for the warmer months March 1st to the end of November is $1800 for a 42 ft Chris Craft and 400 dollars to haul it out and put in on dry dock for the winter months then splash it in the spring..... .Martin and Janet Jeason ..
@OffshoreEsprit
@OffshoreEsprit 5 месяцев назад
Hey Martin and Janet! Wow... color me jealous! I knew I was paying some crazy California prices. If only it was easier to haul a 36 foot sailboat all the way to Michigan for a season! :)
@jackphillips5524
@jackphillips5524 5 месяцев назад
Unfortunately Alfred E Luders (the designer of your boat) passed in 1999.but he designed boats from the 1930's until the 1980's a lot of those older builders originally designed boats that didn't have motors/engines so they weren't great at designing engine rooms..... lol, good luck with your boat. It looks like a fun project.
@OffshoreEsprit
@OffshoreEsprit 5 месяцев назад
What a great piece of historical context. Definitely explains why the engine compartment feels more like an afterthought. Thanks!
@petercrane2065
@petercrane2065 5 месяцев назад
Next time dip the plastic hose into some boiling water for a minute, it will soften the pipe and go on easier.
@OffshoreEsprit
@OffshoreEsprit 5 месяцев назад
Great tip!
@nickviner1225
@nickviner1225 5 месяцев назад
That starter needs lubrication on the bendix as it is hanging in the flywheel sprockets far too long which is not good for it.
@OffshoreEsprit
@OffshoreEsprit 5 месяцев назад
I'll add that to the list! Thanks Nick.
@JohnCornellier
@JohnCornellier 5 месяцев назад
Great episode! Recommend you ditch the music though. Just let us hear your voice.
@guangxidavidliu
@guangxidavidliu 5 месяцев назад
Don't fell bad. I think it still cheaper than "better" shaped used boat.
@OffshoreEsprit
@OffshoreEsprit 5 месяцев назад
That was my logic as well. Fingers crossed!
@alexdieudonne1924
@alexdieudonne1924 5 месяцев назад
Don't penny pinch on mission critical items money well spent on the through holes.
@OffshoreEsprit
@OffshoreEsprit 5 месяцев назад
Couldn't agree more. Thanks for watching!
@mickg8306
@mickg8306 5 месяцев назад
BOAT.........Break-Out-Another-Thousand........
@forestspeaks
@forestspeaks 5 месяцев назад
Except a fire boat.
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