Air Traffic Control Told Me To Screw Off 

I have been a cfi and designated pilot examiner, the passenger chatter should be kept to a minimum in relatively busy airspace. That may account for the missed clearance from atc.

“How many parachutes do you have on board?” “Just one” 😂

I’m a retired controller; 41yrs ATC…. Mostly NY area. That was not rude, believe me 😮.

You might consider asking for flight following when you first talk to the ground controller on departure. Then you have it and a code before takeoff. This is always better than a surprise pop-up request.

The part that concerns me more is the cockpit chatter during critical phases of flight. I would work to keep all chat at 0 during takeoff, landing and transitioning through bravo.

That other pilot talking to ATC gave us a perfect example of the pilot in command acting with the authority should be. The safety of his plane is his jurisdiction, not ATC’s. He felt unsafe to reduce altitude further, so he firmly stated his intentions, and that’s that.

Conversations with ATC are operational, not always polite. He did not have time for you so he said so. Flight following is workload permitting. The guy he was dealing with before you ticked him off a bit.

Here in the UK we use “unable, due to controller workload”. Far more professional.

Mike, I love how you tell your passengers the plane is not certified while on hold for the runway... that was hilarious. Love the content keep it coming.

“Atlanta Departure, Experimental 661MG, off of LZU, at 2,000’, requesting VFR flight following.” May have helped you get flight following. ATC looks for correctness, understandability, situational awareness and speed. You said 5000’ for bottom of Class B. It’s 6,000 and then 7,000’ in the direction you departed. Tell your passengers before takeoff, no talking unless it’s an emergency during climb and descent. If they continue to talk, then press the mute button.

Always tell your passengers that they don't need to scream unless you're screaming... and then 30 seconds later start screaming. 🙂

That entire brief at the runway with your passengers was hilarious

If he knew about all of the verbosity in the cabin he would be even more irritated

Happy Easter to you MG!!! Beautiful family!!!

Too bad the ATC controller was having a bad day I remember many years ago a local controller was like that and wanted me to fly 500 feet below a mountain and fly into it. He kept yelling why I did not fly the heading that he wanted me to and I said if I did I would declare an emergency just before I hit that mountain a mile and 500 feet above me. He got quiet after that. Your co pilot is nice and cool I bet he makes a great pilot. One sister fell asleep....he he

How many parachutes do you have on board 🤣🤣 That was funny

He was being a bit short but honestly I'm surprised ATC stays as level headed as they do sometimes. When they get one or two pilots not paying attention or being a little demanding I can understand how they get frazzled.

Those big smiles behind man! how i wish i could offer that to my sisters! A life's DREAM!

Flight following is never guaranteed and is only provided if ATC is able due to workload. He wasn’t rude. He was brief so he kept the frequency clear. I fly in the Los Angeles basin and our controllers are accustomed to the workload and most of the time flight following is approved but not guaranteed.

Hi Mike, how do you fit four adults in the Sling while keeping within the CG envelope? I've found this really hard to do while playing around with the calculator.

LOL Not rude just busy . Beautiful sisters, and a beautifull landing BTW ❤

Sounds like the government has lowered the criteria for controllers too

I'm binge watching your videos like a TV show. This is amazing to see, on so many levels. I subscribed, signed up to mail list and learning about flying and types of aircrafts. I'm going to watch the Bell Twin 4-5 passenger helicopter next

Gotta agree with many others: That was too much passenger chatter in the cabin during departure. You gotta brief your passengers on this and enforce the rule.

In Australia they say “unable due controller work load”.

The first interaction seemed short but not rude. The interaction with the other plane was a bit more rude

Hey what airport does Mojo take off from?

Good job Mike , watching for traffic and communicating with the tower seems seems somewhat stressful uh? Especially with a full plane.

Dibs on the only parachute! I called it!

Great flight!

The controller was just very very busy and he should have been nicer but he was busy

Love the look your sisters gave you after you asked them to keep an eye out for airplanes.!!!!

Loved meeting your sisters!

your sisters are too damn cool, love it bruh!

Why did you take off with Comms issues?

What day was this flight? I flew home on April 2. I flew home from Sun N Fun IFR, Atlanta Approach was rude to everyone. One of the airline dudes told the guy to go on break he was being an ass and he was not going to speak to him any longer. That airliner driver switched over to tower. I think a complaint was filed. I was happy to be handed off to Chattanooga Approach.

Flight following is not a guarantee - you must be able to navigate yourself in VFR if necessary. Curious is this was around fun and sun or some other high GA flight situation - that's a TON more GA traffic than most controllers handle otherwise, and plenty of folks asking for flight following. During things like Sun and Fun certain ATC sectors might do a NOTAM perhaps noting flight following for everyone is unlikely.

Somebody need to let him know they got a number for him to wrote down

Happy Easter/Feliz Pascua de MMGL Guadalajara. Nice !!!

The brevity of his refusal is a sign that he really doesn't have time for you. They work for the government, which means they're not gonna apologize for anything they have a right to do.

After re listening sounds like the controller had an aircraft at 2400 and the guy on freq at 3400 descending. Idk if the controller was in communication with the guy at 2400 but the controller would be correct that they only need to be 500ft vertically separated if at least 1 aircraft is VFR and both altitudes are verified. He could have just explained that the altitude was verified and 500ft separation is approved. I'm sure the pilot would have accepted this and even if he didn't it sounded like him leveling at 3400 didn't really affect that much and he got his visual approach soon after.

Wait, when did ATC clear you though? I get people commenting about chatter. But, unless this was edited, you mentioned your position and intentions before takeoff. Yet everyone seems to be ignoring that part. Why? Directly after that he said he cleared you and didn't get the acknowledgement. He never gave it! So, not sure why people are skipping over that to simply focus on your talking. Which again, I understand that and for the most part agree. But, it wasn't as if you were in a life threatening situation. You were waiting for clearance. You heard your number and shut up. I don't know if rude is the right word. But, not telling you something and claiming he did is a strange thing to overlook. As you're climbing you told your sisters to keep things sterile until you're at cruising altitude. Ok, what was wrong with that? People are mentioning how rough it is to be ATC. I highly doubt any respectable pilot thinks otherwise. But, at the same time, it being a rough is part of the job! Like almost every job can be. Still, there is a sense of tact no matter what. I get being direct. I'm direct. But, I'm not going to pick small fights with you or claim I did something when I didn't as ATC. Peoples lives are in your control! Pilots, from what I've seen, can be VERY empathetic towards ATC. Pilots can be some of the biggest most rude idiots too. But, stop making is seem like ATC are saints and get to act however way they want because they can have a large workload. There are videos here on the RU-vids that show ATC can be some big f*ck ups and have endangered people and even gotten people killed! And that's not because someone asked for a flight follow! In other words, it can go both ways. Everyone should be as respectable as possible. With the sober view of it can be rough for ALL involved. But, neither is better than the other. NEITHER.

Very Nice Bro! Get Good People/Pilots!

Smooth landing 🛬

Happy Easter,

As a woman, I’d have a hard time concentrating with all that talking coming from the back seats. I think most women can’t stay quiet for very long or have enough situational awareness or emotional intelligence to shut the F’ up, lol! Nice flight, we enjoy your videos and binge watching them! Stay safe!!!

Happy Easter Mike "peace on earth"🌏🇭🇲

No guarantees with VFR services. I don’t feel the controller was rude, just busy and didn’t have time.

I’m a pilot out of PDK and I can agree with you abt ATC friendliness in Atlanta. I completely understand they’re busy but being cool with pilots goes a long way especially if those pilots aren’t giving you any problems.

ATC staffing has been an issue for awhile now . Prob why they aren't being helpful. Most airlines are having to slash their schedules this summer due to ATC staffing. However, they have resources to sue airlines like JetBlue and Spirit.

Hope you enjoyed your Easter weekend. God bless you all #salute my gud brotha!!!!!

Do you ever watch 74 gear on here ? The 747 pilot?

CONTROLER NEEDS TO GET LAID

That controller sure is rude, enjoy your videos, keep up the good work.

Congrats Mike! I see you're lining up with the center line on landing. Sweeeeeet!👏

I am watching from Elmira NY nobody should work in air traffic control if they are going to be rude

Awesome video. Thanks.

What u plug that in? Old transmission's

Come on, man!!

The air traffic controller was very unprofessional. This guy should never be allowed to control anything including himself. He's pure danger!

That was tame compared to KIWA and KPHX controllers.

The angle of attack beep might be the most annoying sound in all of aviation. I can’t believe I prefer the weird sound of the Cessna stall horn. Can you change that? It’s piercing

Georgia and JFK lol

4:20: Eh, to be honest it wasn't that rude at all. Flight following is not guaranteed, if they are too busy then they aren't going to do it. I suppose he could have declined it in more of a "Unable at this time" way. 4:45: "We are in the bravo" !!!!! You weren't really though. Passenger (like I would) quickly looks at your map and clarifies with you where the shelf is. Well done to him. Given the recent airspace busting, I would probably not say that =) Maybe brief the approach to it since it was a recent issue. "We are approaching the bravo shelf at 5000" 11:00: Worth calling out, he's not very busy. Hence he has time for you.

FAA should investigate and take action on rude and unprofessional controllers

How could she be sleeping? lol

I’d cut the controller some slack. They save our butts every day for all the stupid stuff we do in the air so they’re allowed to have a bad day every now and then. Plus, we don’t know what was going on offline in the tower in the world’s busiest airspace so it’s a bit unfair to post something online without having the full story.

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That’s a great airplane.

Mojo have you seen shark aero new video they just uploaded???? 👍🏻👌🏻

That first controller sounds like hes about to do something to get himself on VASAviation

Love those two beauties in back! Nothing but smiles!

Am I being harsh on the controller? I really felt like he was being short with everyone.

Ran paul like?

sir is it possible to connect the control of the plane to chat gpt4 and fly with AI?

Will like to connect. I'm a student pilot. Thanks

He must be reported immediately to the FAA who the hell he think he is that was very unprofessional 👉🏿😤😤🤬🤬

LZU tower generally comes off pretty spicy lol, definitely not an airport to be making radio mistakes at. I'm out of GMU and our controllers can be pretty similar

"Grandpa like"? The beautiful thing about ageism, is that unlike racism, you'll be old one day, or you won't know about it.

you need to contact the airport let them know about this controller .. they can review his interactions .. he needs to learn to say things in a more polite manor . ok hes busy but comon

Creative editing. Fix your radios. Easy to understand why ATC gets frustrated with your transmissions.

wow super rude of that controller!

Yeah! Thumbs up!

When you need ATC the most, is when they tell you they are too busy! Makes a lot of sense, huh?

You speak too slowly, call with your full request as soon as they acknowledge. Houston is very similar, if you don’t keep up, they won’t coddle you. Really isn’t rude and I wouldn’t take it personally, when I’ve experienced the same, it’s motivated me to learn to speak clearly and succinctly which has produced more helpful results. In other words, try to emulate the professionals in lieu of having the attitude that your bee bopping hamburger run should have the controller at your pace.

Hey Mike can you file a complaint about that air traffic controller ... cause if it was me I would wana pull a top gun move and Buzzzzz the tower a 757...lmao

What puzzles me is why general aviation uses the same heavily trafficked air as commercial aircraft. The latter are flying 3-4 times faster than this joker and if he gets in their way hundreds of lives could be lost. Offended that ATC couldn’t give you immediate attention. Just follow the rules wait your turn and fix your radio.

File a complaint with the FAA.

Do you just write a NASA report every time you fly? File it with your flight plan? Because if you don’t, you should. The controller was terse, but you’re a danger.

I’ve now been denied flight following four times leaving Ocala to Tampa Class B

atc was hella rude if you defending this dude ya nuts

We have a similar problem at KTCL with rude ATCs. So much so that I have heard a CFI say e will not solo students if a particular ATC is in the tower.

Good video well done. I have to say I don't like trying to oppose pilots and controllers like that. Was he super pleasant? No. Harsh? No, just super busy. You on the other hand have some room for improvement (we all do and it's easy to judge others from a distance, like it was easy for you to judge this guy). First, be on top of comms with ATC. You had no good reason not to respond to ground. FF is a bonus, don't cry if you don't get it. Don't wait until you are in the air to talk about a sterile cockpit (they don't even know what it means). If things get out of control, your priority is the comms with ATC, not with the passengers. Use the isolate function of your intercom.

not hearing the rude. hearing the busy with other traffic.

“I don’t have time” is a valid response to a request for VFR flight following, especially around busy Bravos. Frequently center controller are working two or more sectors at the same time, each on different frequencies. So you’re only hearing part of his workload. When a controller accepts your request for Flight Following, he is accepting responsibility for the safety of your plane in VFR conditions. COVID, retirements, & the very long training pipeline, & low pay has put a lot of pressure on the system. Frankly, not everything is about You. Get over yourself.

Is flight following seen as a noob thing? with computerized ATC there would never be capacity issues.

I don’t think this was particularly rude. He was just talking quick and direct because he’s extremely focused on his job.

ATC primary job is NOT to be nice but enforce "Noise Abatement"

"I don't have time for you." Wow! How about giving you back your call sign with "Unable at this time." It conveys the same message but in a much more cordial way, and in fewer words. Keep these videos coming!

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