Alfa Romeo 147 GTA 00's dream or nightmare.

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@kasimirdenhertog3516 3 года назад

This was painful to watch. I’ve got a 156 GTA for some time now and pretty much all the work you mention has been done, which reminds me how expensive it actually is to run... luckily driving it makes you forget all that 🙂

@TommyRogic18 4 года назад

Lovely car, whoever owns this is very lucky. Love the blue/tan leather combo. If I owned that I would only let it go when the floor falls through. Can’t remember the last time I saw a 147 in the wild let alone a GTA.

@ItaliaAutos 4 года назад

Yeah not many around

@FieryWings01 3 года назад

Owned and daily drove my 2004 selespeed 147gta in gun metal grey with teledial rims and 330mm brembo brakes. Was a dream and love that car and miss it very much. Mine also had the Quaife diff as well.

@1strongbow285 4 года назад

Top video mate , Getting addicted to them now 👍

@harrykeane1380 3 года назад

Great little car

@CJsChannel 4 года назад

Absolutely love these 😍

@joejoe796 4 года назад

I love this car !!

@bobscu 4 года назад

really good honest appraisal. Welldone, as always.

@ItaliaAutos 4 года назад

Glad you liked it

@jeroenspoelman5624 4 года назад

Great video mate, really enjoy your content. And the best 00's Hot Hatch

@ItaliaAutos 4 года назад

Glad you like them! thanks for watching

@lowfinger 4 года назад

I had one new in 2004 for 4 years, it fitted all the cliche's, sounded great, went well, looked stunning. Dealer was shambles and car was very unreliable, thank goodness for the extended warranty !

@nightpz 3 года назад

That's a really detailed buyers guide! And all from experience, not just jabbering. BRAVO!

@ItaliaAutos 3 года назад

Glad you enjoyed it!

@jonathancooper4769 4 года назад

Nice Video. Wish I had been out in my GTA whilst you were driving over Cannock Chase, would have been a good alfa wave to get on the video

@ItaliaAutos 4 года назад

That would be cool!

@alejandrocampoysuarez2540 4 года назад

Amazing car....lets go!!

@martintoet4583 3 года назад

Very good detailed info (as always). Got mine upgraded to 3.7. I must say its highly recommended especially after a total engine failure on a 3.2. It was fast before but now its a monster.

@ItaliaAutos 3 года назад

Thanks for sharing

@salehudinshah4228 4 года назад

147 gta a performance car of all time great!😍👍

@ItaliaAutos 4 года назад

They are ace.

@stephen300o6 3 года назад

Reminds me of Maserati, fooled into believing they are a bargain by their purchase price.

@peterboot7120 4 года назад

Still love de gta Busso, but gone keep my 2.0 147 from 2006 Its still nice one on the Pomp 🙈 nice video 😍👀💪👍.

@ItaliaAutos 4 года назад

Thanks ✌

@Davis8D 4 года назад

I love my 156 GTA Sportwagon I took it to RR shelsley walsh hill climb, it's a fantastic car! I started my restoration before xmas, stripping the car for a full respay and chasing the surface rust in the wheel arches and floor. I found in the 156 inside the inner seals are full of surface rust and needs treating, not sure this happens with 147 and if anyone else is stripping parts of the car everything is stuck on and a lot of bolts will brake off😅 Another great video!

@ItaliaAutos 4 года назад

nice. thanks

@aldeacristian4582 4 года назад

Great content, I really like the channel. I'm starting to see a trend for Alfa's, they don't really provide parts for a long time, I hate VW but you can still find brand new parts for a mk 1 and 2 golf's, and they're more then 30 years old.

@ItaliaAutos 4 года назад

Nope 10 years and there done with there old cars.

@jamesavickers5961 4 года назад

Excellent bravo as ever grazie Mille ciao

@ItaliaAutos 4 года назад

thanks

@sm70911 4 года назад

Very cool car, great design

@ItaliaAutos 4 года назад

It sure is!

@jackevans4559 4 года назад

Great video 👍

@ItaliaAutos 4 года назад

Thanks 👍

@dieselpowerworks 4 года назад

Thank you sir for that

@ItaliaAutos 4 года назад

no worries

@LueysGarage 4 года назад

Good comments on the 147 GTA. I'd like to add that the top motor mount tends to go bad, suspension bushes need replacing quite often, the factory radiator and hoses are rubbish, and its very important to replace the diff with a Q2 or Quaife. Other than that if you do the maintenance on them and cambelt changes etc they are actually amazingly reliable. Now someone just needs to find a long term ECU solution for when they inevitably all pack up :D

@LueysGarage 4 года назад

@@celticmist8790 Yeah I'm talking about a more affordable option maybe using an Open Source ECU project...2000 pounds is a lot of money

@TheAlfaNut 4 года назад

I still want one of these! Big Busso + small car = fun!

@ItaliaAutos 4 года назад

there getting expensive now.

@TheAlfaNut 4 года назад

@@ItaliaAutos Yep - starting to move into that category, along with Spiders, GTV's 156's.

@doveronefoxtrot4417 4 года назад

Excellent motors !

@ItaliaAutos 4 года назад

Yes they are!

@Negativvv 4 года назад

Repairing rust you've got to in time is still far cheaper than work on the Busso engine! I've had a reliable 3.0 Busso for the last 6 years and it's still easily been the most expensive engine I've ever had to run. Completely worth it however.

@ItaliaAutos 4 года назад

yep its a 12 month thing to check.

@rezaq1 4 года назад

I had a 156 GTA when it was about 4 years old. Was great after a Koni suspension kit! Mine still had the 305mm brakes with no issue whatsoever

@miralemnermina142 4 года назад

The 305 was pos, one stop from +200km/h and the discs would warp

@OggyGTA 4 года назад

@@miralemnermina142 not on my car. They were still good when i got hold of a new 330mm kit for a good price, so i swapped them. The 305mm with PF pads were crazy good, but the dust from the pads was quite abrasive on the wheels!

@pereldh5741 4 года назад

Hello! The best upgrade on all these hi-powered Tipo-cars is adding a front lower horisontal subframe brace, which stops all torque-steer. Goes for the Fiat Coupe too (especially). OMP makes one for 155/156 which you can mod slightly to fit on any Tipo-car.

@ItaliaAutos 4 года назад

Good tip!

@deankamaruddin8211 Год назад

more pain more love..cuore sportivo

@ItaliaAutos Год назад

Thanks for watching.

@organiccold 4 года назад

The one at home back in Portugal from 2002 has about 150k kms, no rust no leaks and no issues at all. Diferent climates.

@ItaliaAutos 4 года назад

yes thats the problem with the uk, all this rain.

@ricardowebbs5207 4 года назад

Just sold mine after 5 years, loved it but so many other cars to try! Now have a Falcon v8.

@ItaliaAutos 4 года назад

Everyone needs at least 1 v8

@ricardowebbs5207 4 года назад

@@ItaliaAutos totally different animal Neil! Gta is still on my drive...being collected this week. Really enjoy your videos-I still have a Gt blackline jtd.keep up the good work.👍

@jonpeley 3 года назад

Driving a 1.6 TS 147 which I love this one's my dream car. But being sincere I couldn't afford it. My unit does around 9 litres for 100 km doing a little bit more than 500 km so it's not cheap, but the GTAs tend to double that fuel consuptiom so the total fuel reach will be less than 300 km.

@lufetm 4 года назад

Great for second car, when you have time for a great countryside drive

@ItaliaAutos 4 года назад

Yes indeed!

@micahjlang 4 года назад

Thanks for the video. Agree with most of your advice and pointers. If you don't plan on taking your car to the track, then the standard differential and 305mm brakes work just fine. Coil-over suspension, anti-roll bars and good tires fix all of the handling flaws that came with the 147 GTA from the factory.

@OggyGTA 4 года назад

Back in the day, the main reason for upgrading to the Q2 diff was down to the number of standard diffs on (mainly) 147s and GTs that exploded. It's a VERY worthwhile mod if only for the improved cornering.

@ItaliaAutos 4 года назад

I feel it only improved handling at speed. If it wasn't for the diff exploding leave it for the track. Id say antiroll bars are the best upgrade over everything. But that 156 of ours was super.

@TABRO284 4 года назад

I always thought the drain holes on these floor pans where purely for the galvanization dipping process to let the galvanization fluid exit the car as it comes out of the dip tank.

@ItaliaAutos 4 года назад

Yep they where but there the main cause of the rust here.

@italwagen 4 года назад

Hi, mine has a bit of gunk in the overflow bottle, but runs great no issues nothing under the oil cap and coolant is clean, my mechanic says there’s nothing to worry about, by the way I took the precast off now runs wizards decatted manifolds, much cooler under bonne temps

@ItaliaAutos 4 года назад

Thanks for sharing

@fhwolthuis 4 года назад

I removed the coating on the handles and window switches without taking them off using nail polish remover without aceton (!). Brake cleaner on a cloth also works.

@kahumike 4 года назад

Must try that on my 147Ti, it has the sticky controls as well.

@ItaliaAutos 4 года назад

To avoid and damage to leather is say take them off.

@fhwolthuis 4 года назад

@@ItaliaAutos I had the regular 147 facelift with the light brown leather interior. In those versions the door cards were covered in faux leather and it was no problem. Note that you have to use the nail polish remover WITHOUT aceton, which should be available from Bootz etc. Only apply it to a microfiber cloth and then polish the handle and button surrounds. Result is a very smooth and nice black surface and the white arrows etc don't suffer.

@philipreith7872 3 года назад

Just wanted to know if it's possible to change the front end to the face-lifted later model 147 with the triangular headlights. I haven't seen one done, really think it would improve the look. Just wondering if it's possible, I'm sure it's not easy and won't be cheap just want to know if it can be done and what it will take

@lukecowell7516 4 года назад

So I used that same ethos buying a 2012 range rover sport tdv8 it had nearly 400000 miles everyone told me to stay away and buy one with low mileage this range rover had full service history and receipts totaling thousands and all components that go wrong had been replaced with upgraded parts and it was under 5k anyway a year later not an issue trouble free luxury motoring

@ItaliaAutos 4 года назад

Awesome stuff.

@henryhol8538 4 года назад

Thats why I'm holding on to my 124,000 mile Alfa GT. With my car I know what has been changed over the years.

@rezaq1 4 года назад

I see the floors on this era of Alfa and crap it, reminds me of what I needed to do on my 145. Never again!! People covering the floor with that black bitumen underseal are only generating more hidden rust issues down the line.

@ItaliaAutos 4 года назад

i dont use the bitumen stuff as it is a nightmare.

@ivanjacob_ 4 года назад

What dou you propose as an alternative?

@lonebiker931 3 года назад

Nice one. Actually the correct way to pronounce the model is GE TE A. 👍

@WGanesha 2 месяца назад

ITALIAN DREAM💪🇮🇹❤️

@henryhol8538 4 года назад

Awesome! I think this car (or one very similar) won an award at the 2018 AROC Spring Alfa Day at Duxford. I take it the strut brace is aftermarket?

@ItaliaAutos 4 года назад

I'm not sure. Owner didn't say anything to me.

@OggyGTA 4 года назад

They are aftermarket yes.

@fatwalletboy2 4 года назад

Nice looking cars but blimey you need deep pockets and who at Alfa thought it was a good idea to mount the ECU onto the engine let alone at the back. Crazy. Ill never forget the day a tyre fitting place just slid the trolley jack under my car and lifted it in the wrong place....the crunching noise as it was raised was awful. They caved in one side sill badly at the flitch joint.

@ItaliaAutos 4 года назад

Ouch. Yeah if you do have to jack in on sills make sure a rubber pad is used.

@strongbowism 4 года назад

Very good informative video. I have been contemplating buying a 147/156 GTA as a weekend car for sometime now. Coming from a V8 M3 that wasn't without problems which were usually costly I can see after watching your video the GTA will probably be similar. The rust issues with the GTA is the extra ball ache though that the later M3's thankfully don't seem to suffer. Seeing cars as low as £8k up to nearly £20k. Some of the upper priced cars have been for sale for some time even before the 'Virus' raised it's head is £20k realistic?

@ItaliaAutos 4 года назад

i wouldnt pay anywhere near 20k for a gta

@strongbowism 4 года назад

@@ItaliaAutos Me neither, thought the upper prices were a little ambitious. I was thinking of stretching maybe to 12k-13k for the right car if a tidy example comes up for sale in the near future. That seems a little more realistic to me.

@blakes7460 4 года назад

Best to leave well alone !

@bernardwarr4187 2 года назад

Great information, I am hoping to get one this year. Has anyone fitted larger than 330mm front brakes?

@ItaliaAutos 2 года назад

Finding them is the problem

@MarkofZollo 3 года назад

Ah the ECUs aren't that bad! I've fixed a few now without having to replace ;)

@ItaliaAutos 3 года назад

Dry solder joints?

@MarkofZollo 3 года назад

Yeah, it can be quite tricky though

@stvpls 4 года назад

nice but id rather prefer to get the jtd,

@Paul_VanGo 4 года назад

The fact they drive wolly, is because of the sway bars and shock absorbers. Get some decent ones (Fx Alfaholics and Bilstein). One common mistake is to lower them, but if you go for roadholding and not for looks, don't go there, it will get worse. Don't listen to people who try to justify their slammed cars and who say it's better. It's not. Try to go on the track with new aforementioned parts at OEM height and after that at lowered height and you'll see and feel the difference. But if the GTA-looks are not unique enough and you feel the need to screw up the handling; go right ahead and slam it, until it scrapes. But don't be surprised a standard and well maintained diesel 147/156 can corner faster than your car.

@ItaliaAutos 4 года назад

yeah im not a fan of very low cars but this is how the customer wants it.

@Paul_VanGo 4 года назад

@@ItaliaAutos Wasn't really addressed to you particularly, but more to all the other owners. 🙂

@leerzeichen1910 4 года назад

Hi there, i think you have the knowledge to help me out with this little problem: i want to change something onmy 159 SW 1.9jtdm 2007 and i‘m looking for a fuse that has voltage only after the engine starts. Do you know some of this? Thx and keep up the good work!

@ItaliaAutos 4 года назад

gladly help out if you where a patreon member

@marioilbarbaro 3 года назад

waaaooo bella

@FrankishKnight 4 года назад

one tip, dont buy a GTA that is absolutely slammed like this one, and the loud exhaust, its such a gypsy thing. quaiffe is only useful at the limit, so it is a track mod. stock suspention is good, but anti roll bar upgrade is an absolute must. In my opinion the best GTA is mostly stock, well kept, not raced, enthusiast car. I have a rule when I buy Alfa, the owner must have multiple Alfas in his garage.

@ItaliaAutos 4 года назад

I do agree with th Q2.

@FrankishKnight 4 года назад

@@celticmist8790 everyone has their own taste, me personally I like the civility of the stock exhaust, and the stock ride height too, I think even the smallest drop is going to be punishing in daily driving, the speed bumps are brutal where I live.

@davidwysocki8635 4 года назад

Stock diffs are very prone to failure on those cars (and when the diff goes, it can take the gearbox with it as well), so a Q2/Quaife is a necessity, not a track mod ;-).

@russellaldridge9964 4 года назад

@@davidwysocki8635 agree, the standard diff does not have any bearings so when it goes (full lock is a danger point ) it can damage the gearbox casing making it an expensive repair . Q2 transforms the power to the front end and makes turn in better.

@FrankishKnight 4 года назад

@@davidwysocki8635 I think it was a quality control problem from Alfa, because you see +%90 of the exploded diffs exploded with less than 50.000 kms. I think if mine hasn't exploded at 130.000 it never will.

@facingworlds5405 3 года назад

I daily drive my 156 gta sw. Has done 352000 so far. Have a q2 lsd, cf2 exhaust manifolds (rest of the exhaust is standard :-/), 330 mm brakes, coilovers, shortshifter, and some other bits and pieces. Oh, and a baby seat as well :). My advice is not exaggerate with the wheel size, and don't go with a too stiff coilovers. Good thing to do is put some polyurethane on the strategic points in the suspension...check the petrol hoses between the engine banks, and some heat shield around the ecu or reposition it. Oh.. and replace the metal water hose under the radiator with some custom inox.

@ItaliaAutos 3 года назад

awesome

@cagataytekin6318 3 года назад

cool. 352k mile or kilometers?

@facingworlds5405 3 года назад

@@cagataytekin6318 km...now it is on 363000

@cagataytekin6318 3 года назад

@@facingworlds5405 my 1998 1.6ts is on 369k. it's nice to see well-driven alfa's.

@facingworlds5405 3 года назад

@@cagataytekin6318 besides 156 gta, I also have a 156 1.8 ts with 320k km.

@malicekaiser 4 года назад

The Blackline Wheels is the best looking Alfa wheels in modern era...

@ItaliaAutos 4 года назад

jet fins are my fave just a pig to keep clean.

@bastian9653 3 года назад

hello, please i would like to know if when a 3.2 v6 is warm, coolant tank with cap off and engine idling, coolant rising slowly then overflow is normal ? thanks

@997xTurbo 3 года назад

Yes it is normal for coolant to go over the max when hot, it expands with heat :)

@Negativvv 4 года назад

Oh question please Neil, why do you think potentially lower mileage cars can have more problems? Also are leaky engine seals and head gaskets an issue that affects 3.2 Busso more than the lesser capacity ones?

@ItaliaAutos 4 года назад

Not using a gta is the worst thing you can do.

@izno73 3 года назад

Hi, do you have information on the wheels? They do not look stock, but are very nice.

@ItaliaAutos 3 года назад

blackline wheels off a gt

@aldojacobi6007 4 года назад

Thanks for the video mate. Really really informative. I am currently debating whether or not to buy one with really good history & Q2,, 330mm brakes, metal under body mod & scorpion cat back all fitted. It’s done 115K km (70k Miles). It sounds like it’d be better as a weekend enthusiast car than a daily driver? All those costs for running one, repairs & maintenance sound “horrific” relatively speaking. What to do.....?

@ItaliaAutos 4 года назад

You will love owning one just put money aside each month so you don't have unexpected large bills.

@aldojacobi6007 4 года назад

@@ItaliaAutos Hey mate - thanks for your reply & insight. I do normally put money aside for car maintenance, I'll probably need to increase that amount....these cars are really unappreciated here. Have a good one , be well & take care 👍🏼

@aldojacobi6007 4 года назад

@@ItaliaAutos One thing I forgot to ask you - what do you think about changing the wheels to 18"s? I took a SELESPEED version for a drive a few months back & found it "harsh", it could've been that I was trying to get used to driving the SS....

@maxmoughal5183 4 года назад

I would love one of these but they are so expensive, i guess the Q2 is a good alternative but nothing can replace the BUSSO!

@ItaliaAutos 4 года назад

try a 156 2.5 or a v6 gtv.

@maxmoughal5183 4 года назад

@@ItaliaAutos Some bargains to be had there :)

@maxmoughal5183 3 года назад

@Keep on Tri-ing! I meant the JTD Q2 which is obviously less desirable and therefore cheaper

@maartenyzer4121 4 года назад

put some suspension travel under it..when you upgrade

@ItaliaAutos 4 года назад

this is how the customer wants it.

@donRageme 4 года назад

147 gta buyers guide - if you ever come across the rare opportunity of actually seeing one for sale.. Buy it.

@ItaliaAutos 4 года назад

ive got 2 of them

@donRageme 4 года назад

I've been looking for two years, they don't stay on sale for long 😒

@arfanrashid5249 3 года назад

Where can you get a 3D printed jacking point cover from?

@ItaliaAutos 3 года назад

Have a search on the gta Facebook group. Thats how I got.mine.

@carlparker1516 4 года назад

Expensive hobby

@ItaliaAutos 4 года назад

very

@johncat9261 6 месяцев назад

Is it better to go for a later model GTA or an earlier one ? Any difference ?

@ItaliaAutos 6 месяцев назад

Any year us fine. Just not a fan of the Japan imports as the auso box isn't that good

@charlesshamseldin9555 4 года назад

What would it cost to import one of these to the US? Gorgeous motor, lovely engine.

@ItaliaAutos 4 года назад

No idea

@jirivymazal8427 4 года назад

Few years waiting for start, AFAFIK you still have the "25 year rule" for imports there, so if you want Busso now you should probably look for some older GTV/164 models

@Minoltalphafan 3 года назад

There are brokers who "grey" import non USA cars and cars at 25 years and older. Expect to always pay a premium what with broker fees, shipping and customs then registering in US. Look into an Independent shop that specializes in such cars near you before even considering.

@nickh2458 3 года назад

And the selespeed option ? Good ,bad or ugly.?

@ItaliaAutos 3 года назад

Perfectly fine. I now prefer auto

@zzhughesd Год назад

147 or 156 GTA, former pretiest, which best for handling and best on bills???

@ItaliaAutos Год назад

156 handles better.same for bills

@zzhughesd Год назад

@@ItaliaAutos Thanks ,! So I collected a very sorted 156 GTA today and I'm in love. My first GTA, but my 27th 156 being in the trade

@zzhughesd Год назад

@@ItaliaAutos Also, incredibly quick steering but mini roundabouts !!!!! The 156 turning circle !!!!! Guess 147 struggles get around a 'mini' ???

@robertmartin1116 4 года назад

Please don't do RU-vid Premiere videos, RU-vid is about video on demand, and making it a premier makes me forget about it and move on. I think I can watch it, and then it tells me to watch it later. NOT good for building views... By the time you read this comment, I would have forgotten about this video and NOT watch it.

@ItaliaAutos 4 года назад

reminder to watch the video here.

@robgeorge2919 3 года назад

Anyone driven the auto? And know of common faults ? Cheers

@ItaliaAutos 3 года назад

ive driven one briefly. ill be doing a full video on it once my gta is up and running again.

@davidviner4932 3 года назад

Sounds fragile with not many parts available, think I will get an Audi S3 to transport my dogs in as our convertibles don't have the room, shame as I was looking for something different

@ItaliaAutos 3 года назад

A car with soul or without is your choice. I’m a fan of Audi but that generation of s3 is very dull. Very nearly bought one.