Alice In Chains ft. Maynard James Keenan - "Rooster" (Cleaned Up) - CA, Aug. 6th, 1993. 

aha! I said within there that I did not know how to pin things, but it was really easy. TLDR: I'd love to try to clean up other inaudible or plain-bad live recordings, or even b-sides/outtakes or alt. takes. I also had an old channel that had a lot of vinyl rips, rare live stuff, some demos I had traded for or acquired from a local record shop in the form of a bootleg, and just rare stuff A lot of the stuff was released when it was still considered a rarity though (e.g. a good amount of The Replacements' stuff in there has since been released on special editions/remasters etc.)-- so it is outdated and hasn't been updated in ages. It just locked me out randomly one day. Still never figured out why and not one retrieval method worked. Here it is, though: www.youtube.com/@godFlintstone It is extremely varied. In one corner, you have Kathleen Hanna doing some slam poetry with a weird trance beat, and in the other is GG Allin covering the Rolling Stones.... so there's something for everybody (probably).

@@computersnevergoonstrike If you aint got no better option I would recommend you taking a stab at Slayers official live album Decade of Aggression. It's probably one of the best most powerful/energetic live albums out there... but it's flawed by the muddy sound (which the band decided to not touch at all prior to release). Would be fun to see what your OCD could do with that one!

@@originalvisual7491 I'm down! My history with Slayer, admittedly, is a little bit on the lower side. I like their music but have never delved into it fully.... I recall making a meme before the term existed when Steve Irwin died, and it was an animation of his face on a fish or something running from a stingray behind him (or a jelly fish?)... but until that part in the video, it's just a bunch of phoitos of him, him with crocodiles, more crocodiles, etc.... and then out of nowhere ON AND ON SOUTH OF HEAVEN!!! cuts into I'll Be Misisng You and the animation plays for a bit. That video had os much hate and eventually someone got it removed somehow. One of those lost treasures I need to find on my old hard drives. ANYWAY... I think my closest connect with Slayer would probably have to be seeing Fantomas live. Dave is an incredible drummer... just insane. I may end up seeing Slayer at RF this year as well.... it depends on what days we go, if we go, etc. etc. but being in IL/Chicago ,I tend to go at least one day most years. Bad lineup but a few goodies crammed in... it's fun and kinf of like a fancy carnival if nothing else... but if we're there the night Slayer plays, I know it would be more entertaining than the Cure were last year.... ugh. So just because I'm not totally familiar with Slayer and this live album (getting it now..), what type of sound would should I be looking to touch up or rectify so to speak? I mean, other than hearing it myself and just going off of what I think sounds better, is there anything inparticular that is just horrible i.e. the drums, cymbals, lead guitar, low vox, etc..... I can crank through stuff quicker when I have a set goal in mind. Evbentually I'm going to bring one of my record players upstairs and connect it to my computer to rip some vinyl that is pretty random. Also, one other album I am thinking about looking into, but I'm unsure which copy to use as the "mold"...... LAMF by Johnny Thunders and the Heartbreakers. So many mixes, so many bad mixes, so so so many... then RSD mix that promised the true masters, which did sound good, but still underwhelming. The cassette mix has always seemed to be the best but other than a low-quality youtube version good luck finding one in real life.... But I would love to workon that album a bit. The drums are terrible.... and when Johgnny remixed it for his, he made them sound like a drum machine almost... ithe '77 mixe or w/e it was called... ugh. So many bad mixes of such an iconic album. Wish I could find the tape. I've shilled out lots of money on tapes I've found from sellers in Italy and random places just to save media from disappearing.... and LAMF is one of those tapes I'd sellout for I think. Anyway, just give me a small guidance for the Slayer album, just some suggestions before I get going that is. I have to listen to it still and I'll give it a shot then. Might be kind of fun/interesting to work on something that I've never heard, and am not too familiar with.... No bias at all

Oh, speaking of RF< while it's gotten weird and evolved/devolved, had the freak show, got rid of it, brought it back now.... moved so many times.... It will never be as bad as the inaugural one in 2005 (I think?) with Shane West fronting the Germs, one member of the Misfits and maybe one of their 500 drummers and fill-ins playing mostly old '50s covers, and then the "The" Dead Kennedys with god-knows-who as the frontman.... It was pretty bad. I am shocked it has almost made it 20 years now. My friend and I got in for free because our friend's band won a talent show they had where the winner would get to open or have a small slot during the thing. Kind of a cool idea in hindsight.... but it's become so corporate and expensive now. Funny enough come closing time each night as people are being scattered out, food venders suddenly start dropping their prices and yelling about the tacos or tamales they're selling as if they're at an auction or something. Those $9 tacos became $4 pretty fast. heh. Hopefully it's fun if I end up going this year. Last year surprised me and was neat.

@@computersnevergoonstrike Haha rest that mans soul! Can you believe it's almost 20 years ago he died? Anyhow, back to the topic: Given that you love Daves drumming and are familiar with his capabilities from Fantomas, that is exactly a thing you should try to clean up on that record. He's buried in mud. Listen to the double bass outro/tom fills on Angel of Death for example... Anyhow that and perhaps the vocals are what could use the most cleaning from the get go. You could perhaps do this one and vary it with the Johnny Thunders record as to avoid ear fatigue? Just a suggestion. Look forward to hear what you're going toing put out dude!

Mine, too. If I had to pick two singers "from the '90s" it would be those two.

likewise

For sure

I think this would be '93, and he supposedly had been shooting coke as of '91 and then the Van Halen tour is when it all took off.... It's sad. To look at early AIC and then the later stuff where he doesn't even move from the mic stand... it's so bittersweet and hard to watch at times. It kills me to see how many great people it has destroyed. It almost destroyed me. I would never wish that lifestyle and affliction on anybody... even my worst of enemies. Horrible way to live. Wake up. Go to bed. Just a horrible lifestyle. And what happened to Layne is the truth... the lifestyle kills you more than the drugs at a point...

I hear you but there is only one thing to remember, if not for this drug this music would nit be the same !!! The struggle and hopelessness is why alice is alice !!!

@@chadneuendorf9431 Facelift is written before the drugs so not really

Hell fucking yeah...I took a 10 strip this one time and that feeling where reality stops making sense and your visions take over...what a cacophony of a whirlwind it can be 😂😂😂😂😂 I relate to your story for sure lol and that is epic

Sounds epic man

Agreed

me too. It's cool to see Kat there as well... I always loved Babes in Toyland

Out of curiosity, how was Layne looking at that point? I've always wanted to see a photo of him in the pink ski mask covering his face from a performance he did with Tool in '94 on Opiate.... I've heard it, and I've heard the other versions of Opiate with Layne including the one with a video as well (I plan to clean that track up a bit, too).... But I can't track down any video or photo of that pink ski mask he supposedly covered his face in. When you went to this show was there any indication Maynard was going to come out? And thank you! I didn't even put a ton of time into cleaning this and fixing the channels, but I bet if I had , it might'ce been even cleaner. One thing about mastering or cleaning up old live takes is you don't want to overdo certain things or it can bury parts of the mix, and that's no good. I am just so happy I can actually heard Maynard in this now, as opposed to the original one floating/uploading on here.

It is claypool in the middle..Maynard is all the way to the right

Les Claypool ,Layne Staley and Maynard Keenan together? okay

And another fact, Tom and Adam were in a high school band together and entered a talent show or battle of the bands.

Man ... there's a band that doesn't get enough love. Her death was tragic but it doesn't add to why I love their music. I'd love it just as much regardless. I think sometimes people will enjoy a band more when the mystique of a death is attached is what I'm trying to say. Both Mia and the Gits stand well on their own. An ultimate what could have been scenario, they had so much to offer, inexplicable songwriting prowess.

@@stevee231And her voice... just unbelievable. There were a lot of great female singers from the grunge era who could actually sing, but Mia stood alone in my mind. Their songwriting prowess was also ahead of the game.... it's a true shame, and gigantic what=if, but I'm with you as well. I actually had been a fan of The Gits before the DNA match and even remember an Unsolved Mysteries episode at one point, I think.... I remember when they found the match. Such a tragic loss from a completely senseless act... I will say that I find it a little bit creepy how many Gits songs can or do relate to death in one way or another, and then of course a song about actually being strangled....

@@stevee231 I'm sure you've checked it out before, but if not by some chance, look up Evil Stig-- Joan Jett w/ the Gits... It's a great live concert from the benefit. I also believe the video from Nirvana's set leaked about 8 or 9 months ago. It's pretty short but still rad.

thanks man!! To my knowledge, and this is just going off of what I know of that is circulating.... Layne and Maynard sang Opiate on three or four occasion including the show in Hawaii, which is unreal. I love that. One of those three(four?) times Layne had a pink skimask over his face when he came out, evidently or supposedly to cover up how sickly he had been looking... I've read commentary from people who were there and both ends of the spectrum but would love to see a photo from that show or some sort of video one day I also have always wondered since it's a long version.... about 9 mins I think.... does Layne stay on stage the entire time?.... So many things I wonder about that one time and yet there's so much contradicting info out there. The one thing that drives me nuts about the various opiate collaborations is their parts and the harmonies never seem to really match up, or they're randomly timed.... In this version of Rooster, at least after I took the original file I had and cleaned it up a bit, you can hear Maynard singing clearly and it sounds almost rehearsed.... I love the cuts of Opiate w/ Layne, but they're all pretty messy and on-the-spot it feels like. I really want to find somebody who may have a photo of Layne in the pink skimask though.... and just curious from anybody who was there: how long did Layne stay on stage for? The live version of Opiate for that one w/ layne kind of goes into a jam and self-destructs itself eventually. It is something like 8-9 mins long... Also re: the photo in this shot, I am not positive, but pretty sure it's actually from Lolla '93. That's Kat from Babes in Toyland.... I don't believe she was in Hawaii for that show. I'm familiar with the bill and know BIT dind't play. I don't think Primus did, either. Not 100% but pretty certai nthat photo is from lollapalooza- not to nitpick, just to make sure everyone knows :) cheers!

@@computersnevergoonstrike you know, when I first saw that pic I thought I read that it was taken in hawaii during the big mele show and that les claypool had also played bass with tool for the show. but after reading your comment and looking into it again, I think you're right. I also noticed that red, white, and blue bell they have next to them. looks like a 4th of july decoration and the 4th actually happened during the lollapalooza 93 tour. so my new guess is that it was one of these lolla dates. then they did the big mele show a month later in hawaii on aug 15. - World Music Theatre, Tinley Park, IL (July 2 & 3, 1993) -Deer Creek Music Center, Noblesville, IN (July 5, 1993)

@@capslock4959 Goddamn, I wish I had been there, man. My birthday is actually the 4th. Hah. I've resided in Chicago most of my life. I've contemplated seeing the new AIC. Black Fades tro Blue is the only one I've really dived into, but it's a masterpiece. Props to Duvall for being his own perosn and kind of doing his own thing. I didn't give them a fair chance for a long, long time... I had a chance to see Jerry at the Rave in Milwaukee last year, 3 free tickets, and like an idiot because I was being too big of a slouch to find people to carpool with or just to take a greyhound down... I initially passed, and then when I changed my mind, she'd already given them away...... I would have loved to see Jerry, since I love his solo stuff too, got into it thanks to used CD bin stores and fiding lots of his stuff for a buck back in the day..... I stil remember buying Disintegration Trip like it was yesterday and how weird it felt being that LAyne had passed about 5 monthds prior or something.... God the day it was announced he died I was replacing my cracked CD copy of Facelift and buying the AIC Greatest Hits CD with the boxer on the cover just for collection reasons.... Rolling Stones records in Chicago, by the HIP.... On the way home I heard it on the radio. Gutting. It's weird how you can remmber where you are, who you were with, what you were doing etc. etc. whe you find out someone you had admited had died too soon.... Even stepping outside the world of grunge and punk and rock, I remember the exact moment it was announced ODB died over our radio we had going... or when Wesley Willis died.... Die when you die, as the song would go. It's cool to see the dates. I had no idea this took place around the 4th and in IL. I always tend to forget that Lolla used t o actually be a "tour" in the sense that it traveled... now that it's stationed here, I've been to it once... or since it became stationed here i should say. I think I went in 2006.... and it kind of blew. It's so expensive now...... I would probably pick summerfest or riot fest (although the lineups each year are such a random crapshoot, it can change on a dime)... But being born on th 4th is cool (if) only because I can look up random stuff that happened that day, or I have lots of mementos from over time .... The coolest butthole surfers live show in DC with FIRE CYMBALS and a really tense atmosphere took place july 4, 1989 and is on here.... a Suckdog, GG Allin and Psychodrama show I have a flier or two for was supposed to take place july 4, 1989 as well but GG got lost, knocked on Lisa 'suckdog' carver's door and asked her mom where the VFW hall was, and then evidently said fuck it, and went "drinking with the boys"... so the story goes..... the replacements break up in grant park in 1991 or 92 on the 4th and I remember my dad having it on the radio out on our new deck,,,, ahh, america! have you by chance seen the new AIC with Duvall? I really do like a lot of the BFTB album but admittedly the songs Jerry sings tend to hit me the most. I do tihnk Duvall has a great voice and can handle some early songs (heard a live cut of A Little Bitter and other than not liking how he changed the lyrics to selling penance with my soul, it was killer and he sounded a lot like LAyne during it) but I don't know how the crowds are, if they only play arenas now, etc..... Being in Chicago, we had like... the aragon... and I dunno. The congress was big enough for some bigger bands who didn't want to play the allstate arena which is a joke kind of, but now it's almost like the aragon is the only venue that's entirely "floor" seating which somewhat big bands play live still..... I hate rock concerts with seats.... I wsn't sure if they even played venues outside of arenas or multi-band tours anymore. But I'm warming up to chekcing threm out if they do.

Man, no kidding there.

To this day... to me, the two best singers to come out of that era ('90s) or just in general are Layne and Maynard (I'll give early Liam Gallagher a nod as well, but that's a different area of taste). Layne was on another level though... such a hard loss.

@@computersnevergoonstrike The first time I heard Sunshine I knew we were dealing with a living legend; he was still alive at that time. But I agree, Maynard is on his own level as well.

@@albertdalton9644 Layne from '90-93 was just unbelievable... The performances after that period are bittersweet to me, since the only way to hear some of their awesome songs from the Tripod album was to hear them in....well, '96 I think. And Layne had declined a lot even by that point.... Once so active on stage, engaging with the audience, energetic, etc... and then those last few shows opening for Kiss where he is holding onto his microphone stand like he's about to get blown over by the wind if he lets go. It's rough, because for as bad of shape he must have been in, his voice was still better than most others on good nights, and a lot of that Kiss tour seemed like "bad" nights. Still an unmistakable and unbelievable voice despite his frail and sick body. There's a show from July 2nd that was videotaped and it's somewhere on here, maybe July 1st... I know the 3rd was the last show and one which he had a bad OD afterwards, essentially ending their part of the tour right there. But on the 2nd he actually leaves his microphone stand for the only time out of any clips I've seen that exist from that Kiss tour.... during We Die Young.... he takes the mic in his hands, gets down near the crowd and crouches like he used to.... and then walks around some more and finally returns to the mic stand. It is the only time I saw him move from that stand in any clips from that era of AIC.... It's like for a split second he came to life. Check it out.... it's a feel good moment for sure, but as I said- bittersweet. Those later shows are all that way I guess.

@@albertdalton9644 oh, the show I'm thinking about I believe was the Kiel center show (in which Layne roams around during We Die Young) I want to say, unless I'm getting the one from 3rd confused, but I don't think so. There's another full show from right around those couple of days but it's all audio only... it's not a bad show though. I wish there was some video of that one. Maybe some day, maybe New Years.....

*Layne

thanks! I think I could have gotten it a little bit better as far as the l/r mix goes, but I tried to just center things more on this as the copy I had that's also the copy floating around was panned heavily to the right side, and Maynard seemed really buried in the mix because of it... I can actually hear him now.

likewise. Glad we still have Maynard. Layne's death was literally the slowest suicide in rock 'n roll history...... and some of those lyrics are creepy to look at now. "For ten long years, the leaves to rake up / slow suicide's no way to go".... if the timeline is correct Layne's problems really began in '92 even if he'd been using coke. And fast-forward 10 years... "I'm still young, it'll be me / Off the wall, I scraped you" ...besides graffiti, his condo's walls had lots of blood specks on walls from discharging needles when he was found cead... supposedly. Lifeless Dead is just sad... When Layne lost Demri, he completely fell apart. He had been trying to get clean, and the word is that they had only broken up at the time they did because they both wanted to try to get clean before moving forward. Another lyirc (or verse...) that gets me is the last one in A Little Bitter....

🎃

Allysin Chaynes is a great porn name, ;p

@@computersnevergoonstrike Haha yes 😀❤️

you know what they say.... less is more!

It is Les

Well, because it is.

hahahaha. Thank you. The original mix of this that has been floating around bootleg trading scenes, p2p, and now youtube, was just so bad. The right channel was basically all you could hear. Maynard seemed inaudible to me. I tried to listen to it in mono and it was a little better, but I'm happy with how this turned out, for as bad as it was to begin. I probably could have enhanced the sound as well but I didn't want to fuck with the integrity of the original recording too much. I was tempted to jack the volume during the part where they lose Jerry, though.... heh

@@computersnevergoonstrike thanks again, man. I love the pic. What a bunch of weirdos!

@@JorshWarshington1 Maybe it IS you, who is quite the weirdo !!

yessir!

what about the girl???

@@annywally That's Kat Bjelland of Babes In Toyland.

Grunge,Metal,Funk, Rock in one pic

Bwahahah. Thank you for not butchering me for butchering his name with that typo. But seeing as how Les is Les, it would not shock me is there were an uncle or cousin Wes on at least one side of the family.

Yes. That’s Wes and Blaine Staley.

I have a picture I was trying to share but it would not let me and wants me to make another video of it or something. Yes it’s Les

@@computersnevergoonstrike I guess I have to share it this way - ru-vid.comhAbmIlqoEJk?si=30qD-IWdkzkPuOu9

@@bamab3107 if it's a basic jpeg or what have you, try going to a site like imgur and uploading it and then posting the link here. :) I don't think that violates a thing and I'm fine with it. The whole Les/Wes thing is a joke because when I first had uploaded this, I had typo'd "wes" haha...

I love Kat... Babes In Toyland were awesome. I always felt like they could/should have been much bigger.

@@computersnevergoonstrike she was a great woman.

????????

i really hope this is a joke, if anything maynard is 12x better and has a way better stamina than layne ever had

Maynard is a legend, but a BETTER singer than Staley? that's a pretty wild statement... I'm happy to let them both just be legends, to each there own though homie, hope everyone is well

@@adultonsetwoodworking def better and its not even close, maynard could consistantly sing throughout shows and not get tired (while sinigng similar if not higher more sustained notes) Layne was known to get very tired and a lot of the time couldnt sing like halfway through the set

Jackass. Layne, Maynard and Les… all gods

He's makin' flapjacks! 🥞

Nope... I can hear it just fine. He's harmonizing. A lot more near the middle and end of the song too. If you hear the version that had been going around before this one, you'll hear everything panned only to the right channel, and then it IS hard to hear Maynard if not impossible at times. Maybe it's your sound setup and if it's in mono that might be an issue. I don't know dude, but I can hear him 10x better than the right channel mix that's uploaded and may have been on p2p 'I took a bad mix which was all in one channel and I did a 20-minute cleanup on it... I could have done much better, but as it is, people seem to be fine with this and at the moment I'm focusing on fixing up a lot of stuff from my old channel that I lose the pw/ got locked out of. If you'd like me to try to do anything else with this mix (or to enhance the old one) let me know, and I'd be glad to fuck around on it for fun (and more than 20 spare mins) to see if I can get it to sound even better, which is probably not too hard given I admittedly have said this was a very quick cleanup to deal mostly with the right channel, but also clarify MJK's background vox. so both weren't jammed into one channel.... In any case, there's no need to be accusatory and rude. I would love to give this a much more thorough cleanup but it truly was a pile of shit mix I started with. So maybe it's the fact that yea, the original bootleg was shitty as hell, and I just did what I could in a small amount of time. People seem happy tho, so no need to piss on the dandelions... as I said, I'd be happy to try to do a more thorough cleanup on this one day when I have time to sit down for 2hrs or so.

Hah, really? I've never heard about that, but I know he had his breaks with Demri.... That's interesting. I loved Kat.... Shit, the Pagan Babies or whatever the band she was ni w/ Courtney Love in the '80s, wrote like, 4 songs.... one of the songs wound up in a Babes in Toyland albunm and one song wound up a Hole song eventually if not mistaking, but she was great back then, even. Love BIT... when I bought CDs and there were placves like used cd stores with just bins of $2 cds, I lkoaded up on pretty much all of my ;90s cds like BIT, Meat puppets, solo Jerry albums Dinosaur Jr., Replacements, and so on and ob, BIT and L7... I remember getting their albums dirt-cheapp at this same place in my mind; loved it.... I still buy CDs but not nearly as often. Shit, i don't even really buy vinyl too much. I just won't let myself sell my vinyl collection again.... so much good stuff went out before inflation. oh well.