I’ve taken what I’ve learned from you and spread this wealth of knowledge to my firewood cutting buddies. They’re in awe of how fast my saw cut. They asked me to show them pretty much after the first cuts. I said if I can do it, then you can do it too! Thank you again for the wealth of knowledge and info!
I knew there would be an amendment to clairify the gullet in/out that depends on the grind, roud hand file vs square cut. Thank you Sir for continuing education.
Makes sense to me friend! I remember a video of Harvey's ( Ironhorse) where he talked about how a chip is formed, and how the top plate cut, and what the purpose of the "C" shape was all about, and its importance in actually removing the chips as the saw cuts. He hit it quickly in the video, and I backed the video up several times to fully understand it. But after I saw it, it made so much more sense, and I spent a lot more time working on filing. Between you two, I've learned a TON of info! You all rock! Much love to all from Northern Alberta!
Hey buckin I'm a 26 year old in South East NY. Wood stove is my only heat source, going into my second winter. Love the wood man life. Running a McCullough pro 10-10 automatic as my only good saw. Gas mix 50:1 generic oil. Any good maintenance tips or tips to improve running please and thank you. Love the work man please don't stop.
Billy im confused,I have a 3/8 chain on my 500i and the shop and stihl chart says to use a 13/64 file,I did notice that file cuts the gullet deep.but misses the very top edge on the top tooth.
Hey there! I really appreciated your clarification on the "get the gullet" concept, especially how it applies to round filing versus square ground chains. It’s fascinating to hear about the differences and how they impact cutting performance. I’d love to know more about any tips you have for beginners just starting with hand filing-any specific techniques you recommend? Keep up the great work!
Thank you for teaching us about the chains, files, and your sharpening techniques. Since watching your videos, you have taught me well. I am no pro, but I now can hand file my own chains with great results, I Thank you Buckin Billy Ray with all my heart 👍
I run the stihl ms250 and ms261 cutting creosote treated piles up to 20", 3-4" by 12" and 12" by 12". Building piers, docks floats... marine construction. I need to make precision cuts. The chain requires a 3/16" file. Do you think I'm using the most optimal saw and chain?
So are you suggesting using the "baby C" on any size chain? Interesting results for sure. Just trying to understand here BBRS. I just learned of you and your channel about 3 months ago and became an instant fan and subscriber! Your back story and journey into cutting wood is fascinating! You're a great story teller and your motivation and passion for what you do is infectious. Much respect to you sir!!!
My dad uses ONLY 13/64. . 55 years experience. I know youre not saying its wrong. But this is a guy who like his chain to cut. Put it this way: he sharpens a brand new chain out of the box
Hi Buckin could you do a video on chin grinding and grinders for the farmer/semi pro user. What grinder to buy? Not a cheap £50 but also not a £500 machine. Thanks.
Man you get me motivated BBR , spent my Friday night saving a chain that was mangled top and bottom . Spent 45mins filing it back into service ….. cut some auzzy hardwood sleeper with it today , was like butter 😎😎
Quickest way to get the gullet. After hitting the ground or rock 😮 . Use one size bigger file over manufacturers recommended. Then use manufacturers recommended. Get the baby C with ease.
Hey Billy. You should hook up with Guilty of Treeson. Don't know if you've heard of him, but he's a great young guy in the Seattle area. Went through the gamut with Eastside Tree Service down there, just got his insurance squared away and in business for himself. I think you guys would be so good together on RU-vid! Reach out!
Yooo that's buckin Billy Ray he gets that gullet... Got his throttle finger on that 592,,, ,,,,,, HE'S GONA PULL IT! HUSKY, ECHO, STHIL, FULLY PORTED HE KEEPS IT REAL.. BE KIND BE KIND BE KIND FRIENDS BE KIND...
Great to see you running the Egan Straight Shot exhaust cover on that 500i! I run those on my 400 and 661. I can’t say enough great things about them! Throttle response or Crack that you speak about for limbing. The pull and overall sound! Hands down best bang for the buck for a saw this side of port work in my humble opinion!
I did miss this video. Thanks a million for this. I'm using 5/32 file. 1/8 files are to pricey. Lol. That baby c runs better then 7/32 filed chain. Awesome video buckin. I'm going to try the nasty hook with high rakers. I'll keep you posted
Buckin you are a great teacher, I’m able to take what I learn from you and give it to my sons and feel comfortable with them running saws with me. Thanks for the great content and kindness God bless!
Buckin, try taking a "fine" slice off the "side" plate of the raker. Also I used to take a little time to roll over the raker to round it off. It's smoother...
Mini C - great idea! And I see you like cutting dogs heavy. I do the same so I can use the chain to pile my wood. Thank you for sharing your expert ideas. Cheers!
13/64 is for 3/8 Stihl chain. 7/32 is for 3/8 Oregon chain. I keep them both in my 3/8 file set. The handle on the 13/64 file has Stihl written on it with a sharpie and my 3/16 file has .325 written on its file handle. My Stihl picco files have an LP written on their file handles. I hand file everything.
The guy at the Stihl dealer told me 13/64 is for 3/8 pitch and 7/32 is for 404. I'm not sure why Stihl says that because I know everyone else in the world uses 7/32. I tried it on my 3/8 chain it gets the the top plate really sharp but you start to mess up your hook if you use it to much.
CORRECT, UNLESS YOU HAVE SPENT TIME ON A SAW AND IM NOT TALKIN 3 TIMES A YEAR FOR 20 YEARS ,,, YOU WILL KNOW ABOUT THE PRODUCT YOU SELL ,, NOT HOW THEY ARE USED. ITS JUST LIFE
@Denton Dunn I think maybe Stihl recommends 13/64 just to be different than everyone else. It might make your chain a little bit sharper maybe but because it is smaller than 7/32 , it's easy to lose your hook. I'm in no way an expert but from trying them both that's my best guess.
@@jonathantrowbridge4641 glad you said something cause it’s a new chain that’s never been sharpened and I bought 7/32 file’s cause they recommended it but before i touch it I’m buying a new file 13/64 and try it out
I have 500i stock, do you recommend skip tooth chain? I have run into what you did on my hand sharpened chain. I also wonder if filling rakers deeper will help?
full house brother , rakers ? depending on wood and yer hook, its all in the filin' . a lower raker will help to an extent ,, skip,, you can afford to go a little more if ya want ,,but remember my brother try all these things we speak about , so yer words in the future come from experience , not ' i heard a guy say this. love to you and yer family . Rob, Just so ya know . I'm pickin' up on a sincere vibration from yer comment , and it does not go unnoticed here ,,, thx, appreciate yer humility
Hey buckin! I tried your baby C method with a 5/32 file (all I had on hand) on a 3/8 full comp, full chisel safety chain and boy does it rip! For being a safety chain I'm really impressed.
It would be a small percentage that were confused, I've sent my son here to get a better idea of hand filing and told him when you talk square grind, just forget about it, he'll never cut for a living. But you keep up the great teaching.
hi Buckin' ,, I want to thank you very much for the time you giving us to clarify such an important thing ( filling ),, I only have small saw's, on 3/8 husky T525, sthil 009L, echo cs 3450, and a .325 on a husky 550 mark2 and it helps a lot to know what to look for when filling ,,, it's much easier and safe,,, since i found out your channel i'm stuck here loll,,
What is Bucking going to do when the Canadian Getapo bans gas chain saws ! I can see him doing a video on an electric saw with square ground chain...! They banned the gas saws in California....
Well not completely we won`t be able to buy gas powered saws after 2024 but we can keep using the ones we already have. I have several saws. If it gets to the point where they come up here in the woods to confiscate my saw they will have to pry it from my cold dead hands!
Buckin, use to run Carlton Magna chisel .404 on a Olimpkic 284 and used Ferd files 28” bar loved that saw 30 years ago cutting firewood didn’t break it enough got greedy and turned it up well didn’t have the money to rebuild but now if I can find one would love to get one
Buckin,to add to my comment I just bought a house and got gotten married wife not helping with any bills didn’t go past 12 years Worked my butt off with 4 jobs finally got to a factory job that I love you might think I’m crazy but it’s the best money I’ve ever made 2 miles from home and only work 14 days a month don’t need to cut firewood but a dear friend of mine just had his second knee replacement going to buy a new saw and give him some help he has never been to Bunion going be there he love’s the Macs has two 2 man macs
Any feedback or comments on those electric circular grinders? I was gifted one from my first boss (not because he didn't use it....it was 90 when he quit!) and that's about all I've used but I've never cut enough since working with him to find/know the difference and what the shortcomings are of the electric grinder (besides lack of portability).
BBR is just a file man. IF you use your grinder correctly then it’s gonna be fine. Don’t burn the cutters, don’t go to deep, don’t ski jump. It’s ALWAYS a fine line, but so is a hand file. Just sayin 😮
I suck at sharpening, I’ll sharpen and then the chips are so fine I give up. I file the rakers( think that’s what they’re called) to no avail. Still doesn’t throw those big chips like a new blade. Guess I’m not getting the gullet. Haha
Don't give up Ronnie... Couple tips for you... Get a bright light so you can see well. Buy some brand new files (files don't last very long) Apply plenty of pressure on strokes (I believe alot of people just do the stroke but you have to really dig in) Watch the metal burr roll off the top cutting edge and then lighten pressure for a few strokes to clean things up. You got this...👍
Buckin have you ever used a Stihl 2 in 1 file? I sharpen my chain 1-2 strokes every tank of fuel. Works great out in the field with a stump vise for production firewood cutting.
Is there a different between square filed chain vs ground? Also, what type of wheel do you use to square grind? If you use a standard picco sharpening wheel on a grinder, you could probably grind the baby c and forget about the files. Just a thought.
It’s a different type of machine to do square… standing symington… big wheel… square is fast cutting but it’s a clean wood chain only… a little bit of dirt and it’s dull! Round will last longer…
Great video Buckin’! Damn, Stihl has certainly set the injector programming to give it a LOT of fuel. That puppy is still 4 stroking under some fair load!
I have a 500 I steel chainsaw and I always keep the chain very sharp I never have to force it or anything like that it goes through the wood like no tomorrow Great video I will have to try that one one of my chains👍
Super helpful Buck'in. I was confused last week but I got it now. I just started learning how to use hand files and feel much better now after watching this video. Thanks - Keep smiling and keep your sticks on the skins. :)) Cheers!
Hey Buckin Billy THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU.... that explained SO much. I appreciate it... much more clarity now.... I will be a much better filer now!!! Keep Buckin" Thanks
oh buddy thats a personal thing , in the west coast dogs breakfast we call it. you can be in maple, arbutus, cedar, fir . dogwood, cherry all by 10.00 am. so its most important to keep yer rakers set to a respectable depth and stick whith the line they give ya on the chain brother , some use semi chizel , but not me, just keep yer hook at a minimal
Hey buckin Billy Ray how do you like the sounds with the Egan straight shot Vs WCS barkbox you wasent so happy with the sounds from the barkbox in one of your ilder videos like you said IT sounded like crap Best regards from Denmark 🇩🇰
