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All-New TINY 17mm F4 Lens from Sigma!

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In this video I check out the new Sigma 17mm F4 DG DN, which is a new I-series (all metal) lens designed for full frame Sony E mount.
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@youuuuuuuuuuutube Год назад

Sounds like the perfect match to the new Sony ZV-E1.

@evenatienzaart 3 месяца назад

I want that for hiking and backpacking trips.

@user-my4dm4ij3t Год назад

I think this may be a great lens for street photography on an APS-C camera. It is very small and light, doesn't draw too much attention, and the focal length is like 25mm on FF. Very nice addition to the I series superb line.

@fromia1 Год назад

The slept on feature is that the minimum focus distance is much closer. Really impressive.

@anonymousl5150 Год назад

It's decent at .27 magnification ratio but the price is just ridiculous for an F4 compact lens. Old sony 10-18 f4 covers full frame sensor well and the 10-20 F4 for apsc is also a reasonable alternative with some cropping. Outside of vlogging, this lens has no real purpose that I can see

@fromia1 Год назад

@@anonymousl5150 well you mentioned already. It is light and full frame. Has good optics for its size. Useful for interior and architecture photography.

@anonymousl5150 Год назад

@@fromia1 compactness is not really a big deal in those applications. And for landscape it can be useful in hiking but you really want a zoom for landscape

@jl9752 Год назад

I could see this potentially as a good vlogging lens for the upcoming ZV-E1, especially if you are planning on using the in camera stabilization features that are going to crop quite a bit. There’s no comparable focal length for full frame this light for the e-mount. Also, 17mm is not a bad focal length as a secondary travel lens assuming you have a more “normal” focal length.

@BoxxyFan Год назад

The 16-35 pz would suit vloggers better

@carbon20xide Год назад

@@BoxxyFan I agree, but this is a smaller and cheaper alternative if you want to stay in the prime world

@BoxxyFan Год назад

@@carbon20xide vloggers generally prefer zooms. Maybe if this was faster than f/4 and actually was different from a zoom.

@careylymanjones Год назад

@@BoxxyFan Why would you want a zoom for vlogging if you have a prime of appropriate focal length? Primes are usually lighter than zooms. And primes are usually sharper than zooms, unless the zoom is from a premium line, such as a G Master. And primes are usually significantly cheaper than a zoom that can match their image quality. If you're hand holding the camera at arm's length, lighter is better.

@BoxxyFan Год назад

@@careylymanjones the 100 grams extra of the 16-35/4 is negligible. If you cant hold that at arms length then you should see a doctor. Much more versatile range and goes wider, and its a G lens which is better than Sonys standard zooms. Maybe this 17mm prime would actually have something going for it if it were faster at f/2.

@schnubbel76 Год назад

Looking forward to the other 2 sigma release videos. Hopefully the announced 23mm 1.4 for apsc will be a part of it? Waiting for it for a long time.

@Settoautofocus Год назад

I’m buying it for sole purpose of making vlog videos, I have found for my own self that majority of my Vlogs even though I’ve used a 12 to 24 the 2.8 GM lens and 24 mm 1.4. that I’ve really noticed the sharpness in the Sigma Lens is over the last year so much that I’ve started to switch out my lenses to Sigma I’m feeling that an F4. Is about exactly where I end up with a lot of my settings, so that there’s a decent, crisp, contrast of depth and clarity behind me but at the same point, I also noticed that I end up filming everything between 16-18mm -> so I feel that this lens is going to be a perfect fit and I like the compactness smaller is always better and lighter is even more exciting especially when you’re blogging I noticed that those two pieces are what get me to pick up my Vlog camera more often. Yes, there is the ZV1M2 but I still don’t feel that I get to benefits out of it like I do with a ZVE1 Full frame. Just my two cents but I thought I would try man great video definitely what is the sealer for me to make my final decision. Thank you very much.

@justruppert1 Год назад

to answer your initial question, i don't think the 17mm f4 belongs in the same series as the 20mm f2. i think there are in fact two distinct line ups in the i-series that suit two different types of photographers. one line is the 17mm f4, 24mm f3.5, 45mm f2.8 and the 90mm f2.8, the other is the 20mm f2, 35mm f2, 50mm f2, and the 65mm f2. apart from the difference in aperture there are also a couple of distinct design features (the af/mf switch for instance) that differentiate the two. the first of the two series might be better suited for travel, or documentary style shooting, where a bright aperture is a bit of a non issue. also of note is that all the lenses of this first lineup have very low focus breathing which makes them quite usable for video work as well, particularly on a gimbal, since they are also very close in size and weight (with the exception of the 90mm). the second line up might be more interesting for those who are less concerned with size and weight and want a bit more flexibility in terms of aperture. I happen to own both series, but for work (architecture photography, some portrait work and exhibition documentations) i mostly carry along two bodies one with the 24mm f3.5 and one with the 45mm f2.8 and the 90mm in the bag. I don't own a car, go everywhere by train with my folding bicycle and put all the gear including two ad100 strobes a tripod and a laptop into one of those wotancraft bags that can be attached to a bicycle so size and weight are of importance to me. I might even get the 17mm for those rare occasions when I need a wider shot. for professional work i never needed a brighter aperture. the brighter i series lenses I only use when I am working on personal stuff at home, I almost never bring them along for work.

@TVe200 Год назад

I already own the Sigma 20 f2. Still I might consider this. It is not often I need something wider than 20, this is so small and easy to take with me. (16 f2 would be better)

@JoshConnectMedia Год назад

My 16 mm f1.4 is still one of the best though especially when mounted on the Zv-E10

@careylymanjones Год назад

This lens is meant for use with the new ZV-E1. 16mm on a crop body gives 24mm equivalent. This lens with the ZV-E1's active stabilization turned on will crop to about a 20mm equivalent, which is ideal for hand-held vlogging.

@JoshConnectMedia Год назад

@@careylymanjones Wow!! Really ? Nice !! But the Zv-E1 cost two arms and and two legs for now .

@socratesvela8285 Год назад

Walking around landscape photography. I bet it was all about compactness and not so much about subject separation.

@donflamingo795 Год назад

This lens is perfect for vlogging and especially for gimbal use. For vlogging, you don't want a lot of toneh like 2.8 and above. For vlogging, you want to SHOW the background. So f4 is perfect Full frame you got 17mm view and apsc will got you 25mm,while not as wide as 20mm or even 24mm,its doable for vlogging especially if you have gimbal stabilization.

@mykeljewell Год назад

I have no doubt sigma was well aware of the Sony camera lineup coming in 2023 and (likely beyond) knowing there would be a content creator full frame camera coming (ZV-E1) sigma figured they could slot in a nice prime vlog lens that’s small and lightweight. It’s a no brainer for both Sony and Sigma.

@4sapphireb Год назад

Arthur you should test the Sony Voightlander 35mm and 50mm f2. They are a dream to use.

@elijahmodnar1 Год назад

f4 for full frame is the same as f2.8 on apsc?

@careylymanjones Год назад

Mount an f/2.8 lens on an APS-C body, and your bokeh will be about the same as an f/4.2 lens (1.5 x max aperture). Crop factor will not affect exposure, only depth of field (bokeh).

@CanaldoOTA Год назад

Perfect pair for the new Zv-E1(Very good but cropy stabilization) for vloggers.

@marximus4 Год назад

I see it as being in roughly the same category as the RF 16 f/2.8, which I own: super compact ultrawide to throw in your bag/for traveling if you don't shoot ultrawide much, but might encounter an opportunity. I prefer the Canon, since I'm okay shooting astro with it, it's wider, it's cheaper, and it's faster. But I could see this being popular.

@4sapphireb Год назад

I noticed that the faster the lens the more challenged the image quality with vignetting coma and astigmatism. With wide lenses how fast do we need to go? I shoot astro and find I can get by fine with f2 as with my 1.4 and 1.8 I have to step down for “perfection” I have the sigma 65mm and the build quality is outstanding. The images are actually too sharp and I have to dull my shoots afterwards. All newer full framed bodies have stabilization and you may not need the speed. I am a manual focus person and I don’t like the feel of the manual focus ring as it’s too close to the lens hood. That being said the lens hood is awesome, I could stand on it and it wouldn’t brake.

@kevin.itruth6880 Год назад

Would prefer them to release an 18.5mm F2 for Sony APS-C which would equate to about 28mm in full frame terms...Also F4 is weird starting place. Sigma is creating alot of "unique" lenses lately but we still don't have the essential primes yet

@BoxxyFan Год назад

I dont know of any manufacturer releasing an APS-C lens as a substitute for a FF lens. Also 28mm is one of the least popular prime focal lengths.

@CartyCantDance Год назад

This lens was made for the ZV E1 it seems 😅

@ArthurR Год назад

Pretty funny but exactly my thoughts.

@careylymanjones Год назад

It would pair well with the new ZV-E1 for vlogging. With the stabilization, it crops down to about a 24mm and is smooth enough to not need a gimbal.

@ohlookitsabmwe30.92 Год назад

Loving the watch Arthur!

@Dilpil01 Год назад

i just think instantly its designed for travelling photography and focused on wide landscapes - it's not designed for bokeh

@careylymanjones Год назад

And landscape photographers commonly stop down to f/5.6 or f/8 for more sharpness and less vignette. It would do nicely for vlogging on the new ZV-E1. With the stabilization on, the crop would bring it down to about 20mm equivalent, which is very nice for vlogging.

@HagaishiSama Год назад

Don't know if you do recommendations on but would love if you did a review on the Sony qx line up. Sony DSC-qx10 qx30 qx100 and qx1. I know they are old but you can do some really cool things with them and I would love to hear what you think about them as a whole 😊 Thanks and hope you have a awesome day

@MyChevySonic Год назад

On your advice, I purchased a used sigma 18-50 DC DN after your praise at the end of the video, and I gotta say, it's great, even in lower light situations on my 5100. I found that even compared to my rokkor 58 1.4 and rikenon 50 2, I don't really need that much more light in dim, indoor situations.

@sawgrass7477 Год назад

So it’s worth getting?

@CartyCantDance Год назад

@@sawgrass7477I have it, it never leaves my camera 😂! None of my other lenses get any use anymore

@ArthurR Год назад

All of the B Roll shots in this video are done with that lens. Its my favorite.

@WestVillage-vv3hg Год назад

I can see myself using it as a street lens on a crop body. And as part of a street/travel kit for full frame - 17mm f/4; TTartisan 28mm f/5.6; Sigma 90mm f/2.8. Ultra light, ultra small. Works for me. The only thing I'd want would've been a push-pull ring with distance markings, but that's increasingly wishful thinking these days.

@nivethofficial Год назад

Sigma 16mm 1.4 dcdn is already a amazing lens apart from the form factor. Why not use that instead of the 17mm for the apsc for street photography.

@yannguerin3164 Год назад

What's a "push-pull ring"?

@Jimmyageek Год назад

Best Lens for S5 and L Mount

@Gerald_G Год назад

Seems good for real estate photo/video.

@sanderforpresident Год назад

I love it. Small and compact. Might sell my tamron 17-28 and get this instead. Some of us just want those extra light and compact lenses :) ty sigma very cool

@frankfeng2701 Год назад

Much rather get the PZ 16-35 f/4

@serge1201 Год назад

Or get the Sigma 16-28 instead of that PZ, you get f2.8, little less weight and save $300

@stoikerty Год назад

It looks like Gordon Laing from CameraLabs has tested the Sigma 17mm F4 DG DN with the Sony ZV-E1 using the Dynamic SteadyShot feature in a vlog setup. It turns this 17mm into roughly a 24mm lens... not that impressed tbh. Maybe the Sony ZV-E2 or the Sony A7c2 will crop less for good stabilisation, but I'd say Micro Four Thirds (with the 9mm f1.7) is superior for now for anyone looking to get great vlog quality in a light-weight setup while not sacrificing stabilisation or video performance.

@user-jp9js9th8o Год назад

thank you very much for the illustrative review this both small prime! Whereas I don't have any issues with the parallel released nifty-fifty, here my impressions and minus points about the 17 mm (translated by google, pardon for any imprecise wordings therefore...): A short focal length, packed relatively compactly, is a good idea. Although the image quality is very good, except for the strong distortion in RAW (which costs image quality when corrected!), I have two points of criticism - the lens is actually much "too small" - measured against the 20 mm 2.0, its size would have been okay and would have fitted in very well with the series, at least with a speed of 2.8 - And I also don't understand that sigma introduced another additional FILTER SIZE of 55 mm with this lens... IMPORTANT: that's why the classic B+W S-Pro filters (clear / UV) don't fit - the tube on which the lens hood is attached using a bayonet lock is narrower than the broader filter. Consequence: the filter protrudes slightly over the edge, the attachable bayonet hood no longer fits in! So I had to buy a new B+W Master Clear Filter for 40 E, which makes the following point even more important: - Measured by the mechanical aspects and the low "speed", I find the price too high, actually it should be at least 100 € cheaper I don't understand why Sigma (like many or actually all photo manufacturers unfortunately) doesn't ask the users beforehand about their wishes. In any case, I would have said that I find so much compactness for so little speed problematic. A bit bigger, but F 3.5 or 2.8 would have been great! I now use it as a second lens next to, for example, the Canon TS - E 17 mm shift lens - at least the focal length and perspective match So, dear company Sigma: set up a customer advisory board, then everything will be better

@noenken 6 месяцев назад

Sigma specifically designed this lens to fit the other three pre-existing compact i-series lenses, the 24mm f/3.5, the 45mm f/2.8 and the 90mm f/2.8. Those also all have the 55mm filter size.

@networm64 Год назад

Once again you prove yourself as an honest reviewer nailing the points on this lens. I have no idea what Sigma was thinking designing this lens. If it was a cheap plastic fantastic costing around 200$ and weighting 100g then it was a no brainer. But with so h a premium quality why didn't make it f2.8 at least? Or if it was going to be f4 then why didn't make it wider to be more attractive? 12mm or even 14mm f4 was a great option.

@careylymanjones Год назад

It's a natural pair with the ZV-E1 as a vlogging lens. 17mm gives you room for the stabilization crop to bring it down to about 20mm equivalent. That's about as good as it gets for vlogging. The lens is very light for an all metal and glass lens, too. And if you keep a crop body in your bag, it a 25mm equivalent, which is fine for street or landscape.

@networm64 Год назад

@@careylymanjones I rather pay more for the Spny G 16-35 if I'm happy with f4. So light and got a pack of more features plus a big useful focal range.

@CarlBergsdorf Год назад

It's nice that it's very compact and light but if I were a vlogger I would rather go for the Sigma 16-28 f/2,8 for 300 bucks more. It's still a decent lightweight lens at 450 grams but twice this lens. As you said, this is nice and compact for street photography but not really a great focal length for typical street so it sure is a weird lens but maybe some people will get use out of it.

@Donbros Год назад

What is funny is that stamdart a7 series with this would probabky have same length wise but i do get a7c is coolest with it because of smaller viewfinder

@stoikerty Год назад

Perfect pairing with Sony ZV-E1 where you can crank up the ISO without worrying about video quality or stabilisation. I think a really great comparison is in fact the Panasonic 9mm f1.7 on M43! Think about it - it's the equivalent of 18mm f3.5 on full-frame. I'd love to see a comparison between the Sigma and the Panasonic, I think the results would be very similar - also in terms of stabilisation. It seems like M43 would be superior, both in terms of weight, video quality (using a Panasonic camera like the G9) and stabilisation. But without testing you really won't know for sure. Please somebody test the Sony ZV-E1 + Sigma 17mm F4 DG DN against the Panasonic GH5/GH6/G9/GX9/etc + 9mm f1.7!

@RonHartmanNet 11 месяцев назад

What's it for? I bought the lens for landscape photography. Small, lightweight, sharp into the corners. Checks all my boxes!

@QuietOC Год назад

It might replace the Tamron 20mm for me. It seems better than the Samyang 18mm.

@skarpy24 Год назад

What can you say about Samyang 18 2.8?

@shawnfoodfever Год назад

great sharing 😍😍

@luismoracmyk Год назад

$600 for an f/4 lens? No, thx. This one should have been an f/2.8 for that price or $400 for being f/4

@peterebel7899 Год назад

RF16mm - $300 - f2.8 - 20% lighter - same closeup performance Sorry, this is no 3rd party lens, stupid Canon!

@superelectic45 3 месяца назад

Why 17mm f4? Because it's tiny and ideal for travel unlike my Zeiss 16-35 tank!

@albert333pool Год назад

Nice

@X99Zero Год назад

this is made fo ZV-E1

@mannyulloa Год назад

I prefer the sony 11mm 1.8 with crop mode or clear image zoom, because of the aperture

@Shootrx Год назад

Ah, sorry Arthur, I just know you'll post 3 videos and I only watched 1of 3, and I have to say, this is almost a pancake lens, especially for Sony body, and I love this, even it's an F4 lens.

@blotafton Год назад

I wouldn't say that is a lot of CA. Quite low from these samples.

@ArthurR Год назад

Its not horrible, just more than I expected from an F4.

@mumrik Год назад

Small 26mm street lens on a crop sensor. 🤔

@mykeljewell Год назад

That’s a cool idea. Though I wonder how much that f4 will really be helpful for street for isolation? Seeing as it’s closer to an f5.6 on APSC if I’m not mistaken

@peterebel7899 Год назад

I use the RF 16mm for one year now. This kind of lenses opens a different photo style Take it close in narrow spaces and compose strong perspectives