All Time Low’s Career Hangs in the Balance 

Late night news from the desk of All Time Low 📰 What do you think will come of their lawsuit VS the (as of now) anonymous accuser?

I met Alex & Jack after a show in 2015. I was hanging out with a guy who worked at the concert venue and he had me stick around to see if the band would show up so I could meet them. I was really drunk when they did come out. Both of them were respectful, took pictures with me and went on their way. I was an easy target and they were nothing but kind and professional. One of my friends was also invited to party with them after one of their shows (I sadly wasn't there that night) and they were kind, respectful, and professional then as well. I know people have different experiences, but I would be shocked if these allegations were true.

I just imagine the 4 of them in a court room with their dirty work outfits on

it’s so hard with situations like this. you never wanna shut down the victim or not believe them. but in this case it seems a little fishy. as soon as ATL announced they were taking legal action & pushing this to the limit last year everyone stopped talking about it. idk usually bands kick the member out and admit their guilty within months of accusations, you never see them go all in like this risking their whole career. this is gonna be a huge situation in the next few months

I just met Alex and Jack on Thursday… they were incredibly respectful and it was such a great experience. I really hope these allegations are false… 😢

I know nothing of the situation but the way they are going after her in court, really leads me to believe that they might be innocent.

The risk they are taking makes me lean heavily toward believing them. And if they win, it could serve as a heavy deterrent for false accusations in the future which is positive.

If All Time Low knows that they are innocent, they have the right to take legal action even if it could jeopardise their career/reputation. I hope that these allegations are false.

That’s my twitter post in the video. Interestingly, a while ago when the allegations first surfaced, a girl replied to the tweet saying how she used to be friends with the girl and went to the show with her. She also replied with a photo of her and the girl who made the allegations, supposedly at the show together. She said that the allegations are absolutely false. Once people started noticing the reply, and after I asked if I could dm her, she deleted the reply. If only I could remember what her handle was it would be super valuable :/

As I said on r/poppunkers There are holes all over the story, IF this happens to be true I'll drop ATL in a heartbeat, but as others have pointed out, accusations mean NOTHING until proven and the person coming forward has holes all over her story, including but not limited to misspelling LA... Like, c'mon, this feels like baseless accusations....

I’m really not sure how this is gonna turn out. But I hope we get answers soon and everything clears up. It’s a tricky situation because I do like the bands music and it’ll be a shame if things turned for the worse. But at the same time, allegations never affected me like they do to so many people. Like I’m too focused on my own problems to even bother to care especially now it seems like allegations are an every day occurrence at this point. I don’t support the band’s actions but the music is the important part for me

The TikTok allegation was proven false. Her cousin called her out saying none of it happened so the OP made another video saying she lied and only made the video because her friend didn't think she would actually do it, or something to that nature

I hope this is fake, but I'm also worried about it being fake. People making false allegations play a HUGE role in real allegations not being taken seriously.

All Time Low changed my life, they put me on the track I am now going into music production/the industry as a whole. I saw these allegations the day they came out and was crushed, but over the last year ive put a lot of thought into it and based on the fact that essentially no new info has come out, and that theyre willing to file a very serious lawsuit to defend themselves as opposed to just a twitter post and moving on, im really inclined to believe that theyre innocent. Ive watched ALOT of material from them, music and otherwise, and they all seem like really good guys. I think they have the right to know who said these things, because right now they have no idea, and id assume based on the details given that they would know this person or at least have a vague memory of it.

I've met all members but Zach many times. Alex the most and he's one of the nicest people I've met. Seen him stick up for people who have been verbally abused by people. There's no way on earth he would put his name on this unless he knew the allegations are false

I really think this was the right move. Because either they are innocent and don't deserve their name to be slandered or they are all guilty of enabling their bandmate. I sure hope the allegations are false.

Honestly those allegations, that girl needs to come forward. There WILL be people aware of this situation that know who the girl is, and she'll also be aware. By the looks of it, some girl just wanted attention and didn't expect this to happen, so she's retreated back into a cave and her friends are protecting her while they allow an innocent band to be ruined? Like, so many people have dropped ATL based purely on these accusations. The lamest part is, the rest of the allegations have come off the back of that one tik tok so like, it just doesn't look legit. Most of the shit I've seen about them is just "they did this thing they thought was funny but was actually inappropriate" which honestly only requires an apology.

I saw All Time Low live a while ago, and I have to say that their maturity level on stage has definitely improved over the years. I am glad they are taking the allegations seriously. It gives me hope that they are untrue. At the same time, if the allegations are true, then I hope everything comes to light. Definitely a complicated situation :/

I'm not believing anyone who makes a TikTok about their supposed abuse.

I can’t say I know what happened, because I don’t. It’s very hard for me because All Time Low is one of my favorite bands and has been for half my life. But I’m a survivor and I don’t ever want to silence victims. However, I do believe that people who make mistakes like this can grow and change. I know that’s controversial in cancel culture times, but I don’t think people necessarily go on to repeat their mistakes if they get the right support, hold themselves accountable, and are willing to grow and change. I don’t know if that’s the case for Jack, but I hope it is. And I hope any of these victims are getting support so they can heal their nervous systems from any trauma as well. I just hope everyone involved will be okay.

I really can't see the allegations being true. The fact that the whole band is putting their career on the line and going after her in court makes me believe that they are innocent. I don't want to be one to not believe a victim, but why would they put so much at risk if they were not absolutely confident that they were innocent? Especially with the way their music has blown up in the last year with Monsters and everything.

Next year could be a crazy year. They seem to be working on a new album. I wonder if they will continue with that plan while this is happening

Even if he's innocent, it's sad that accusations like this are somewhat common in the Pop Punk/Alternative scene. There's definitely a greater systemic issue

They’re Taking the band name way too literally at this point now lol.

This entire lawsuit thing pisses me off because firstly: all the punk bands back then literally had a trunk full of bras. It's not really their fault that women threw bras at them. They probably just found it funny and kept them - as most bands of that era of punk music. If they're going after ATL for that, then go after Blink and Sum 41 and even Simple Plan. Secondly: If this woman was serious in her accusations, she wouldnt have deleted her accounts and remained anonymous. Like, someone making a serious accusation of S/A and sh*t like that would come forward and say who they are, not beat around the bush. Thirdly: ATL was thrown into fame at a young age. They literally got signed before they graduated high school (started recording after they graduated). It doesnt excuse Jack's behavior but does anyone know of a boy at that age that didnt act like that? Cause I don't. It didn't help that girls were - quite literally - throwing themselves at them. All Time Low are super nice guys from what I've heard. I know someone who has met them and said they were the sweetest people ever. They're my favourite band. I cant really see why someone would go after them after so many years (especially anonymously) except for clickbait and trying to get fame. That or to just start a scandal because they had an afternoon off.

I'd also like to point out that, especially during the 2000s, you had to have an ADULT with you at these types of events if you were 14 or under. Soooo where the eff was the accuser's parent? I had to have a chaperone for Hanson- there's no way they were letting that fly.

Sounds like they're on a Head on Collision

I guess this really shows why you shouldn’t believe off the bat until things play out or more comes out. And if they do end up being false, they should start having repercussions for doing so.

The last paragraph is referring to All Time Low members, not the Jane Doe.

Im glad they are doing this. I am a believer that evidence needs to be proven before judgement is made. Of course there are scumbags out there but there are also a lot of false rumors that ruin lives. Curious to see how things go but I feel like they are (ATL) are innocent

Honestly I would hope the accusation to be false but seeing the history and the sus behavior that has occurred over time, it being true wouldnt surprise me

I don't believe the allegations, and I applaud All Time Low for going to court with this, because if you ARE innocent, that's exactly what you do.

I would never dismiss a victims accusations but their have been holes all over the stories, the biggest one being when he was accused of something he did in Atlanta (I believe) and turns out they weren’t even there at that time

I'm a person who always belives victims when it comes to stuff like this but I also believe in the saying "Innocent til proven guilty" when it comes to the accused and with this lawsuit, the band like you said are all plaintiffs in this case so they know that these allegations are false. I'm not a law specialist but when all the members are all plaintiffs in this case, there could be a high chance that the allegations are false but it's best to wait and see.

Holy fuck the panic when I saw this video. My gut feeling is they wouldnt pull the defamation lawsuit card if they knew it could get flipped on them, they wouldnt open the closet door if theres any chance of skeletons being found in there. Because if they are willing to do this, and arent firing Jack or whatever, it means they are willing to ALL lose their careers over this if so much as one bad thing surfaces from it, and I cant imagine, even if its your best friend, you being willing to be doomed to working at Walmart for your friend who got nasty with minors. Either theyre right and it'll be a huge blow to anyone thinking false allegations are a funny meme, or they are wrong, and we are going to lose an entre band, potentially only over the actions of one member who was mistakenly trusted by his bandmates. I hope its the former not the latter

this is such a difficult situation because the only way a lot of young women can feel comfortable sharing stories of assault (especially against public figures) is anonymously online. it sets a really dangerous precedent aggressively exposing peoples identities like this, because it takes away the only safe space a lot of victims have.

what is the song/melody from the intro pleaseee somebody

I met jack at a bar after one of their gigs in 2018. I was 24 at the time and he was a total gentleman and couldn’t have been nicer in my opinion. Any relation that happened between us that evening was completely consensual. I was shocked when these allegations came out. They do seem a little suss but time will tell I guess

i haven’t really listened to them in a while, but used to be a big fan of them and similar bands in the like warped tour era, (say 2012-16ish) and back then they definitely had a bit of a reputation for groupies. much like you say in the video about them being “frat boy” ish and collecting bras and making very sexual jokes on stage but whether they knew fans that they had sexual relations with were underage or not i cannot say.

Whether the allegations are true or not, the guys have been long time friends for years, and were friends before the band even started, so I could see them standing by jack no matter what and doing anything to defend him

Coming a little late, are there any updates on the situation at the moment?

Will be interesting to see how it pans out. I’m personally on the fence but leaning towards innocent

All Time Low isnt necessarily what I would call my cup of tea, even though I do like some of their songs, but as far as the allegations go, this is pretty much one of those "sink or swim" moves by putting their reputations on the line, by putting all of their names on it..... but, on the other hand, it kinda seems sketchy for Twitter to be forced to hand over information to which that they claim that they do not have..... me personally, I would rather ride it out and see where this goes

Twitter only says that they don't have the identity of Jane Doe #3, according to the article. I read it over 3× yesterday. But they admitted to having the identity of atlstatements. Jane Doe #1 should be easy to identify because according to the article the person who went with her to the concert commented that it never happened & Jane Doe admitted that was true in the comments. So all they'd have to do is get her identity from the other girl who went with her to the concert. Also they have her face so it wouldn't be that difficult. Also I did a lot of research on this topic when they 1st filed the lawsuit & even if Twitter doesn't know the identity of the person they can give them the internet company & server that the posts came from & than they have the court order the internet provider to give up their name.

I'm glad they're doing this. I hope and pray they're innocent. Them taking legal action makes me think they are tho, because why o earth would they dare to do that if they knew they're guilty?

I doubt this Jane Doe whoever it may be is as financially able to combat this lawsuit.

A band using lawyers doesn't make them any more or less credible, just to be clear. They know the legal system favors the accused. Digging up evidence from something that happened years ago, especially when many survivors wouldn't want to hang on to bad memories like that, is heavily skewed in the band's favour.

On one hand I think the risk they’re willing to take somewhat shows that the allegations weren’t true… But on the other hand they also might be trying to scare the girl into saying that it wasn’t true… it’s deffo a hard one, we’ll just have to see if anything comes of it. If Twitter are saying they can’t release the girl’s identity, then the band aren’t going to get far anyway..

I have met ATL more time than I probably deserve but they are literally the nicest humans. Especially Jack he has always been the nicest human. I 100% do not believe the allegations and I hope they win this court case and clear their name.

to me, i'm honestly not sure what to believe and i'm interested to see how it will play out. a lot of people saying that it's a good sign they're all taking it to court and being plaintiffs since they wouldn't put themselves on the line for something they know they're guilty of; however, i also wonder if this is also some sort of power dynamic thing where the anonymous person who made the comments likely would not have the same resources available to get good legal defense, so regardless of whether ATL/jack is guilty or not, they know that they have the legal power to sway it in their favor. another thing is that besides this one accusation, i have still seen a ton of different accusations against jack as well (moreso for sexual harassment than assault). stuff like him telling fans that they had nice boobs, and just generally inappropriate things to say to someone (especially when they were minors too). i love this band, but i wish they would at least acknowledge their general behavior in the past and how problematic/misogynistic some of it was. i hope the allegations turn out to be false, for the sake of actual SA survivors who shouldn't be invalidated by people making stuff up, and it's a disappointing situation overall

I made a comment in a video and deleted it because I didn't see this video until now and I just want to put back what I said out there. I feel like it was all just for attention. The fanbase was known for sexualizing Jack and Alex together. They threw bras on stage out of their own accord not being forced, at least from what live videos I've seen and shows I've been to. I know for a fact that if Jack was that bad of a person another band member of a band they toured with would of spoken up. Those are some huge allegations to not speak up about sooner. It took TikTok existing for people to spread false allegations. If it was that bad I'm sure someone would of spoken up before. I stopped listening to them just after future hearts because i had other things going on and just couldn't keep up with them. But I logged on twitter and saw this whole lawsuit thing, I had no idea what allegations they were talking about, still really don't know. I know there are people out there who won't change their mind because they're set in stone on believing "victims". Yeah they may of said some inappropriate things but literally Blink did the same shit back in the day, people are just taking what others say literally now. Jack may be a party animal and what not but for him to be that severely atrocious towards young girls would of been brought up WAY earlier. I see comments of people saying bad experiences but in reality if that was true where is the proof, actual fans seem to have had good interactions with them. Usually the ones that dislike a band already usually say they had a bad interaction. Unless the person is known for being an asshole I don't believe anyone saying they had a sour interaction.

Have such a pit in my stomach thinking about all of this. Really hope the accusations aren't true.... :/

i've been following this closely since the allegations dropped bc atl were one of my fave bands for ages. i have a future hearts tattoo on my neck, i named myself after alex gaskarth when i came out as a trans guy, and jack was always my favorite member so it's especially difficult to stomach the idea that he might be a predator. i really hope the allegations are false tbh.

I honestly hope that everyone involved can come to an understanding & things can be resolved peacefully because if it's a case of misunderstandings, the girl being creeped out by some things at the time & only speaking out now, or thinking back on things & thinking things weren't as great as she used to think. Hopefully it's just a case of misunderstanding or misremembering. I'll say this, though, it's not a tale of possible sexual harassment, but one of just confusion. Back in 2017, I had laid some criticisms to Alex on Twitter about Last Young Renegade (I also was kinda dickish about it, admittedly, looking back & I remember being a bit mad at the time). Alex responded not really understanding the criticisms, or thinking they weren't valid, then a BUNCH of ATL fangirls started responding to me. I asked Alex if he could get them to stop, he said everything was cool, but didn't do anything to stop them. Really left a sour taste in my mouth. He doesn't really seem to respond to criticism well unless they're self-criticisms.

Tbh I don’t believe that ATL would be creeps with their fans at all they don’t seem like they are the kinda to take advantage of their fans at all especially when they are the reason why they got to where they are now. Everyone is try to ruin their career and reach and get any chance of attention from others. I do hope we get answers very soon ATL has gotten me throughout middle school to now college. I know Jack is known to make sex jokes and etc but I don’t think they would be disrespectful to anyone at all.

I hope for the sake of everyone involved that the allegations are false. The details added on at the end seem a bit fishy, and I don't think they'd be putting all 4 of their names on it if it's true. If it is true, I hope the jane doe gets closure/restitution, but even in their old interviews, they're always so grateful for their fans. Maybe they had me fooled, but I don't think the allegations are true.

I thought I read some long story about a girl and her mother went to a bar with Jack. No proof of pictures or anything lmao(I’d definitely photograph any of these memories so very suspicious) Also how is the mother not to blame for letting her CHILD go to a BAR with an OLDER MAN while being present??

One could say the band is at an all time low...

I remember during one of there concerts over the years (watching there old shows) they collect Bras from girls and (i find it weird ) and heard that they were donating them for charity or whatever which if thats the case I don't think its nessacary cause what about food, medicine and all that important stuff and if they say there accusations are false then fine cause i belive innocent till PROVEN guilty and all that but they never brought up the fact they have a freaking bra collection! Over the years Like its still weird!

It’s never okay to call a victim a liar because you don’t have any proof they are lying, but you also shouldn’t believe them without proof. So keep your opinions up in the air and treat the victim with respect and kindness in the event that it is true. In general, hard evidence can be hard to obtain. But often when the victim makes statements with lots of details of time and location that prove to be accurate it can be a sort of anecdotal evidence. In this case, their claims were found to not be lining up correctly. Also very often friends or family of the liar will come out and expose them for lying, which also happened. Men tend to believe it’s soo hard to tell when someone is lying, but it’s really not. It’s veryy easy to find holes in a story, and the liar often gets scared of being sued. A true victim isn’t scared because they know their story will be consistent

This is a tough one for me because I've been a fan for years, I met them years ago at a show and they were complete gentlemen. I don't want to believe that it's true and honestly there are parts to this whole thing that don't make sense to me. "They got her friends phone number and pranked her for months" how would they have just randomly gotten a fans phone number? The bras seem gross in hindsight but for decades throwing a bra onstage at a rock show was pretty normal. ATL made it a gag because people kept doing it and I personally have never been bothered by it. It's not like they were going around tearing bras off teens. This whole thing seems fishy, it all came out when Dear Maria was blowing up on tiktok and the way they decided to persue legal action straight away makes me think it isn't true. I think either way this is going to do damage to people who want to come forward about these types of things

I respect ATL for putting their career on their line, and it kinda makes me believe they might be innocent.

while i’m still in the middle ground of this situation, i would like to bring up the fact that jack barakat did date actress abigail breslin when she was 17 and he was 25 back in 2013. i’m not sure for how long, but it’s something i feel people don’t talk about, regardless. from articles i’ve read, he didn’t want to “flaunt their relationship publicly” and is very telling.

they wouldn't kick their childhood friend (they were like 15 when their band was formed) over an allegation (esp if they know it's not true) just to satisfy "fans" who are telling them to do so. they (the bandmates and coworkers for years) know jack way better than us so why should they listen? i'm not the kind of person to dismiss SA claims but let's be honest here, we also had our fair share of false claims.

I don’t know what to believe here. But as I was try to look at it, innocent until proven guilty Also what’s happened to Tiers on Tuesday?

😮‍💨 they really hit an..."All time low"

You have the right to know your accusar, BUT theres no legal cases pending against the dude so its just free speech whether its true or not..

The lawsuits tricky though, doesn't mean they're innocent, just means that ATL don't believe there is evidence there. Having evidence which stands up in court relating to S/A is hard, especially with it being so historic. Really don't want to believe that its true, they've been such an important part of my life since I was 12/13 - but I also understand that the lawsuit realistically doesn't prove a thing, but could be dangerous for victims in the future. Dunno, it's a difficult one.

In the balance or in the ballots?

This has cash grab written all over it. It reminds me of that crazy chick claiming that Justin Bieber took her virginity and she had his baby. The second he took a dna test & threatened to sue, she deleted all her socials and disappeared 🤨

This sucks. All Time Low is my favorite band

sounds like the band's at an all time low.

Have any of the members been arrested? No, then it is what it is.

That Elon Musk getting his hands into everything. BTW, that bra looked liked it came from Walmart instead of Victoria Secret.

Didn't know those cats still had a career, haven't heard of them for 10 years or something

If they were truly innocent then they wouldn't feel the need to file a lawsuit. They would just simply ignore the allegations. This makes them look more gulity in my eyes. The fact that all 4 of them are in on this means that i think that a LOT more is gonna come out about them.

Average pop punk band

I think the problem with it is that they were popular during the 2000s and said that said a lot of inappropriate shit cause it was acceptable. whether they actually physically *done* anything is another matter but their past probably doesn't help. I think the stories they're suing over are bs cause the long one makes 0 sense but whether anything else happened, who knows whenever I've spoke to them online, they were very nice. I saw them live and Alex waved at me while he was leaving.

Oh boy, I have some serious problems: -How do we know said TikToker was talking about ATL? "Famous pop punk band" is very general with how many famous pop punk bands have been accused of such things -Why is TWITTER being ordered to identify someone???? Under no circumstances should Twitter be in charge of that what the absolute fuck?? -Maybe I just don't know enough about ATL but I don't get how what she said implied that it was ATL, again, it sounds like stuff a myriad of other pop punk bands have done so it doesn't narrow it down Idk, I'm just gonna wait and see what happens. I feel like there's not enough evidence to pin this on ATL and again, maybe I don't know enough about them but I really feel like the TikToker was talking about someone else. I also really don't like how Twitter is being asked to identify her. Guilty or not, a social media site should not be ordered to identify someone in a court case.