there was a period of time where every tech giant wanted their own AppleTV that they could also put zero effort into while also forgetting that the only thing that makes the AppleTV halfway work is that it's piggybacked on iOS
@@Boogie_the_cat just got an email I had to respond to when it was about a year or two old, gave them my address and a couple weeks later it showed up at my door. 🤷♂️
@@Boogie_the_cat just checked my email and it was from December 2020, you just had to sign up for the service and they would send you the device and chromecast free.
Literally just unlocked a core memory for me. I remember being 8 years old, clueless mother buying the controller so I could play “console” games, and just going ham with whatever slop was on the App Store. I remember they had a very generic fps alien shooter, red ball 4, and terraria, and that was about it. But anyways thanks for bringing this little thing back into my life ❤️
@@DryPaperHammerBro one complaint about cable TV was that you couldn’t get every channel all in one place. for a brief period of time, streaming services all tried to replace cable by collecting “everything” in one place. this was short lived - nowadays, every production company has their own streaming service, and they are all very specialized. as a result, the Fire stick needs to put a dozen different logos on the front of the box to show all the different services it supports. my prediction is that this messy bubble will not last long. people are already frustrated with having to subscribe to multiple different streaming services. before long, many of the smaller services will collapse, and the Fire TV box won’t have all those logos plastered on the front.
Unpopular opinion: sites should make 2FA a requirement. Losing your phone number isn’t an issue bc backup codes exist. Never keep those on your phone, preferably write them down by hand
The thing is Amazon discontinued the specific game stuff, But they didn't discontinue that you can play games on fire products. Minecraft is still listed as a fully supported Amazon fire distributed game. It probably just has to be a modern version of fire OS
Trouble is... You've got to have space for it. They keep messing with the OS and how it will/won't accept external storage, and while they SHOW more storage they start acting up if you used anywhere between 250-500mb of the available space -I've got four generations of them, and it's the same on all of them. So it could probably RUN minecraft fine, but good luck storing it lol. For what it's worth though, if you've got a good desktop PC, they're great clients for moonlight streaming from it. It's nice having a stick that I KNOW I can plug in and stream my games to basically anywhere.
Losing my mind at the idea of using an entirely different TV instead of the super nice one you own because it comes with a built in interface you like...which you can already connect to the expensive TV you already own.
@@tylerbarr2740I have one too, wish it was still supported. The experience is bad out of the box, when streaming games if you hit the PS button on a connected Dualsense it sends you to the home screen, but it can be fixed by deleting a system app. Then you got Chromecast which doesn't work unless you uninstall updates on the Chromecast app. Either way once it's running it's a good time and I like how it can pass through my LG controller inputs to the Shield without any additional setup
@@genericfriend2568 Yeah I wouldn't recommend it as they're one of the worst when it comes from tracking and an Apple TV or Nvidia Shield would be at least somewhat better but clearly Scott doesn't care if he's buying their TVs. Point is, it's kind of nuts to not use your cool TV and buy new ones because you don't like the nice one's built in features when the alternative you pick can be used with any TV.
At least the Ouya had humble origins, a Kickstarter that massively overestimated the interest in what was basically an android game box. Looks like Amazon seemed to fall down all the same pitfalls that Ouya did, like the mediocre hardware and especially the lack of any of the major android play store games with out-of-the box compatibility. At least the Ouya eventually developed a cult following with people's retro emulators.
This is actually the Amazon version of the stadia, which I'll be generous and give it 4 month before pulls a "we killed it" because it already as all the bad console smells, frequent crashes, only wifi options are with Amazon router, only 3rd party games with absolutely no exclusives. It's like a complete rip off of the Stadia
The Ouya was meant to be a cheap entry point for indie developers since Nintendo didn't do indies, Sony rarely did indies, Microsoft made you jump through hoops and kept you locked away on XBLA instead of the main store, and Steam Greenlight was brand new at the time. Too bad for them Sony and Microsoft stopped their BS over indie games and Nintendo eventually followed.
@@2Scribble *_Stadia worked really well._* But this is why it died. Because YOU were convinced by the tech media that stadia wasn't good. But _it was._ It worked _extremely_ well. Anyone that says stadia didn't work either never used it or theyre full of shtit.
It worked fine if you had the Internet for yourself @@herranton but once little brother started playing fortnite on PS4 and little sister stared playing Roblox on her tablet while Dad stream football games then lag and resolution went to shi💩
honestly I implore companies to explore the budget gaming scene, even if it isn't a great product. It encourages innovation and helps people play if they can't afford anything better!
To me it's funny that with each time these "gaming consoles" release, most people rave that "this is the future of gaming" and it's a "gamechanger" and yet it changes nothing, not to mention their overall lifespan until they realize it was a mistake in the first place. I remember both the Ouya and Stadia campaign ads at the time and the reviews from a lot of "gaming journalists" that swore that it would take the world by storm and that ended up being a bunch of nothing. If anything cloud gaming wasn't going to work no matter how hard they hyped it up.
@@pablodelgado7919”if anything cloud gaming was never going to work” Whilst xbox gamepass grew so big its not even terrestrial anymore, yeah sure: “never going to work”
@@pablodelgado7919The Ouya was positioned at a console for indie games at the time since publishing indie games on consoles at the time was difficult outside of XBLA, Wii/DSi ware, and the occasional Sony deal. Unfortunately for them Sony and Microsoft stopped behaving that way. Cloud gaming has a place. Just not in places where consoles and gaming pc hardware are available at resonable prices. Go to places like Mexico or Brazil and youll see lots of cloud gaming usage. Brazil has the 2nd highest amount of xCloud users worldwide and xCloud sucks.
Sometime, you should go over the leapster tv console. It was made by leapfrog in I think 2005 and had completely unique controllers and I have never seen anything close to them anywhere else. It also had a built in camera used like the Microsoft Kinect, overall, it was an extremely obscure and weird console, perfect for this channel!
My dad bought one of these back then and I do remember having fun with that FPS tower defense game, but then a few days later I learned there were other games just like it that did the concept much better, promptly forgetting about the fire console almost immediately
I had a friend who had me come to Best Buy with him so he can tell me about these "gaming consoles" and for him to get one of these for Jack in the Box. Pretty sure he just used it a couple of times and that was it. I personally use the Amazon Luna controller (the controller only not the cloud service) for PC gaming for when I connect my Steam Deck or Lenovo Legion Go to the TV since I like how I can just push two buttons together and it easily switches between the two consoles (plus my Xbox Series and Xbox One controller keeps randomly disconnecting from my Steam Deck), so I quite enjoy the Luna controller as an option
i got the original version of this -- the one before yours where the controller was weirder. the thing you're kinda missing is that you could sideload android apps, which was unique to the firetv among streaming things back then, and thus you could emulate
if you dont care about the comentary go watch a review of the product instead, the point of the video is not to make an unbiased review the point is to talk about an strange and unique side of gaming
What no love for the Nvidia shield? The only one of the bunch that came the closest to actually being a game console? And is still a solid stream box today. In fact a shield is what I'm using instead of that god-awful interface on my LG OLED.
I remember when this came out not longer after the Ouya. Amazon somehow got Minecraft on it while the Ouya didn't. Also Amazon had a game studio making a bunch of casual games, including some obscure third person shooter. The hardware was decently powerful for the time. I was an active member of the Ouya community and most of us remained loyal to the Ouya platform since Amazon treated indie devs poorly (how surprising lol).
What's funny is my parents have a Samsung TV and they prefer the interface on their fire sticks so much so that they bought a fire stick and plugged it into the Samsung TV.
What you said at the end makes me think of Netflix’s endeavours into having. They were hiring a new gaming head managerial role this year. Can’t wait to hear your deconstruction of it when it inevitably fails.
sideloading was always the way to go with these, I've played a lot of games on my firestick 4k, I've been able to sideload kotor on it and every gta available on android too
I'll always laugh at the fact that most people thought that Stadia had a chance as a gaming console and that cloud gaming was the next big thing or the future of gaming, only to fail so horribly in the process.
Executives who think they're good at everything because they're good at one thing are hilarious. And terrifying, cause what they're ACTUALLY good at is: gutting a company or project for money.
My favorite part of my game collection is the ouya gets the biggest reaction over the things I actually love so thanks Scott this might be my next shelf show stopper in my game room.
I still use the normal version of this exact box (Fire TV Gen 2) from about 2014-15. It has two USB ports and SD port on the back, etc. A few things: 1) FireOS or AmazonOS...whatever the OS is on these devices is absolute trash. They have 2GB of RAM and the OS takes up about 1.99GB of it so it runs like absolute trash. I don't replace it because of how little I use it. 2) As for storage, it has 8GB internal that is actually about 5GB after the OS and it's bloatware. But even betted than that? Android 12 turned off the ability to save externally (or to a non-synced device) for what they call security reasons. But that's fine as these boxes are too old to run that anyway...right? Right?! Well, Amazon went ahead and added that part of the update into their BS FireOS or whatever so that 32GB SD Card you have is useless for about 90% of system uses such as storage. Only verh certain apps have been given permission to save any data to an SD Card. The SD card slot (and USB if storage) is now good only for adding data you already have. Do you have a SD Card full of movies and TV shows? Cool. It'll play that after you jump through 100 hoops to tell the box that it's a safe device and it's ok to access. Do you want to save literally any data to the card that you may have from an app installed on the box? TOUGH LUCK. It's 2024 so TOUGH LUCK. Now get back to scrolling the menu at 10fps because our bloatware OS uses all of the 2GB of RAM available. 3) Avoid Amazon boxes, tablets and everything else. They make total garbage that closes off the OPEN Android OS and is so full of tracking software that a certain nation in Asia is jealous of it. To think they tried making that box a gaming platform is just sad.
With a little work you can get retroarch and enjoy a good experience of classic games. Not the ideal way to play retro titles. But if this is all you have then its worth the work.
We use to have one of these for a while. only games we had was Minecraft, packman, flappy bird, and crosy road. I don't think they updated the game library since it launched in 2015
This video comes off as funny after Gamepass came to Fire TV sticks a couple days ago. Since you can absolutely have an Amazon TV device as your gaming console.
I don’t think you actually know what Stadia really was. It was great product that worked extremely well. Google just missed handle it badly. They should have sold Stadia to another company cause it could have been really big.
@@christopher9320 Why would anyone want an all-digital device that REQUIRES a constant online connection to servers that will be shut down the second they stop bringing in more money than they did last year?
when i was younger i didnt have any game consoles but i did have a fire tv box and then conviced my mum to get the controller for it. i played minecraft, crossy road, hungry shark evolution, and some more games on it contrantly and still had fun i dont think it used to be as bad as u make it out to be
Yeah good luck with Roku’s new update that forces a smoothing filter with ugly motion blur that you can’t turn off, whatcha think about them now Scott? Edit: also the second game is DuckTales Remastered
4:41 I played stadia in Galveston TX, it played flawlessly. If they could have figured how to get the input lag down a bit more in rural areas and if they would have added more F2P games and a paid service that was similar to game pass they could have taken off. There paid service was not good
I think I am one of the few people who actually bought a Fire Controller, I still have it around somewhere, and it is unsurprisingly not a very good controller. Pretty cheap and plastic-y feeling, not GameStop branded generic controller bad but still not great (granted it was only $30 or smth iirc). The sticks were actually pretty okay but the buttons and triggers felt sticky immediately, and the d-pad is basically a cheaper Xbone d-pad (aka not great but manageable). The only thing I ever played on my parents Fire TV was OlliOlli, there really wasn't much else worth playing, especially since Amazon's quality control manages to be below Google Play. The one thing I did actually like about the Fire Controller was the row of media buttons, I honestly wish more controllers implemented something similar, it would be a super handy feature on PC.
if you dont care about the comentary go watch a review of the product instead, the point of the video is not to make an unbiased review the point is to talk about an strange and unique side of gaming
I was one of the people who beta tested Stadia and I did enjoy it but that's because I had no outrageous expectations for it. It was something that I could open in a tab on my cheap laptop while on college wifi when I wouldn't be in my dorm for a while, and I appreciated it for that. Amazon and Google using TV dongles and trying to replace consoles, take the living room real estate, misses the mark
