American Scholars Say The Real Threat To The U.S. Is Russophobia (HBO) 

“There is an unwillingness to engage in debate on this issue, like I have never seen before," Mearsheimer told us. WATCH More on the Trump Russia Summit HERE: bit.ly/2LsBqVf

Admire both these men. Thanks Prof Mearsheimer for carrying the torch after Prof Cohen; first time seeing them together - truly independent thinking - Respect.

Is this really Vice? Did you guys get hacked? I've become used to the echo chamber that vice has become...

I’m here from the future. They were right.

For once Vice actually came through on something and we’re seeing the consequences today in 2022

Stephen Cohen was a great scholar. Super smart guy.

this video has triggered a lot of liberal russophobes

Finally some smart people are interviewed.

This was published 4 yrs ago. Here we are after the nord stream pipeline. Right on track. We need to wake up to this.

RIP Stephen, hopefully someone fills your legacy of promoting better relations between the two nuclear superpowers of the world. You were a brave, brave man.

Scary how accurate these guys were, even more scary that at least on the surface we still seem unwilling to accept part of the blame and put forward real measures to resolve this crisis, which only means it will go on and on and all of us are faced once again with the prospect of going to war and even necular threat. Once we get out of this, if indeed we do, I hope we learn our lesson once and for all, we have to stop engaging in foolish and reckless foriegn policy and accept we no longer live in the world where America can get away with it, we also need a multitude of voices in the mainstream media, and we need to respectfully listen and debate those voices without resorting to defemation of character, we need an end to being unwilling to listen and take seriously voices of dessent in the mainstream narrative, and we need an end to this ridiculous notion that if you say anything critical of the prevailing social narrative you must be deranged, a russian stooge, a bad actor, or be on the side of the bad guys. This crisis has shown just how dangerous this is. I was born after the cold war but i find it facinating that during this war there was more openly dissenting voices in the media, pariliment and in the general public then there seems to be now on the issues we face with Russia today. Its madness and really scary.

Scary these guys lived under the cold war and were still right to this day. And no one listened to them. It's sad...

If Russia allied military with Mexico the U.S would go crazy 🤔 seems like a valid claim

i agree. say no to Russophobia!

First vice video I liked in a while. Thank you for putting an alternative view out there.

I absolutely love this moment at 1:58 where the VICE correspondent asks the professors a question in a tone that is implying "are you mentally challenged." And following the question the two proceed to professionally dismantle his entire argument. Afterwards the correspondent sits down and shuts up to listen and accept what the two older gentlemen have to say on the matter.

We're seeing the consequences of that anti-Russian hatred and bigotry today.

I love Steven Cohen he is absolutely right and more people should listen to the man!

My boyfriend is Russian, and he is slowly understanding the English language. He was so upset and dumbfounded by the bullshit articles America has written about the 08/08/08 war and other things that has happened in Russia that he has witnessed with his own eyes. He could not believe the American propaganda and lies against his country. It was heart breaking really.

RIP Steve. I wish we listened to what you two had to say. I pray that you have acolytes.

Prof. Mearsheimer is the best IR theorist alive. Where can I find full version of this.

I love Putins expression at the end. He's thinking "here's just another lying American".

I want to see the full interview

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE LOOSE THE MUSIC DURING THE CONVERSATIONS!!!!!!

1:57 Wow! Cohen & Mearshmeier changed my perspective on US-Russia relations with one single clear example.

Remember that scene from The Avengers, where Ultron calls Captain America God's righteous warrior pretending that he can live without war? To exist, Americanism requires a boogeyman. America needs a villain to point to so that they can inflate their ego, play the role of hero and justify their hegemon and the enormous sums of money spent on maintaining it through military and economic means. There's a reason American culture has produced so many memorable comic book characters. Comic book stories and their characters were analogues for how they viewed themselves and how they view their enemies - whether it's the Soviets, Iraqis, Afghans, Syrians, Iranians, the Chinese or Russians. The problem is that their adversarial tone always stokes conflicts, much like what is happening in Ukraine right now.

If only this had gone on longer. Two brilliant scholars who both predicted the debacle of 2022.

This is awesome, can you release the full interview?

The hypothetical alliance with Canada and Mexico is unnecessary when there is a real-life example of a very similar thing happening. Remember Cuba?

It’s nice to see that these two guys actually knew each other and could sit together and had a chat.

wow, vice posted something actually meaningful

The real question is why russians are always villains in American movies?

OH WOW WAY TO GO VICE YOU FINALLY UNDERSTAND HOW TO DO THE WHOLE UNBIASED REPORTING THING

Where can I see this full interview!?

The mark of good scholars is being proven right by history.

This is what I wanna see on Vice not all this liberal pandering that the media and some vice episodes tend to cover

This was quality I would love to see more of these two and their opinions on the more controversial topics surrounding russia

Finally with these 2 having a sane mindset there is still hope.

He has a point to an extent consist and the the Cuban missile crisis we ended that shit in a heart beat

I love how this all just went in the trash with the "unprevoked" war in Ukraine.

Those of us who do not have HBO, can we pay for this documentary in full?

It's good to hear voices of reason every once in a while

In respsonse to Mr.Moynihans claim Ukrainians have a right to ask be in Nato if they want, I'm surprised the illustrious Professors here didn't cite Paragraph 8 of the 2000 OSCE EUROPEAN SECURITY AGREEMENT, where it states all signatoriesdo have a right to join any alliance of their choosing, AS LONG as it isn't at the expense of another's security. Great 5 minutes though.

There is something very interesting in the moment when the interviewer asks whether people have the right to decide foreign policy in effect. I am not going into the answers the gentlemen gave, but here is the thing: When People demanded for Brexit, it was apparently the politicians who tricked them into a bad policy as the popular narrative goes, but the opposite is supposed be true for Ukraine. It's apparently the people who were right and the politicians who had to flee were the oppressors. Now I am not for or against any party here and my understanding of the crisis, reality on the ground or historic reasons are of course very limited. But, I think it's still interesting to understand how we create notions of legitimate mandate and maliciously influenced ones. And how our notion might have very little to do with genuineness of the process involved. Of course it helps if certain places are relatively media dark for most of us.

Спасибо, это как свет надежды, что здравые люди остались на Западе. Нам не надо быть друзьями, достаточно чтобы политики были прагматичными и разумными людьми. There's hope for the world

I've been a fan of Cohen for many years, but I just (re-)discovered Mearsheimer during the build up of this war. Than I remembered this clip and looked it up on the hunch that it might have been Mearsheimer that sat next to Cohen as his "comrade". Glad to see it's true. I wish him good health for years to come.

Where can I get this episode

Full interview anyone????

Extremely well done video.

I ❤ Dr Cohen!!

first good video by Vice I have seen

This article aged like fine milk

Stephen Cohen and John Mearsheimer together, they just miss Stephen Walt. Princeton, Chicago and Harvard minds against the world out there. Now, watching this in April 2022 one can only think, if those guys' insights would have been considered, I dream picture would be completely different today? Days of anger, fear, anxiety, void, sadness... Cross fingers we can solve this mess.

The fact that such people and opinions yet exist in the west leaves me a bit of hope

this aged well

Exactly right!

Keep your friends close but keep your enemies closer!

Finally some truth back on Vice...💗 to Russia from America

The amount of tension in the VICE "reporter's" face, while he speaks, accuses, askes questions, is telling me more about that "reporter" than the questions asked to the interviewee.

Wow am actually quality piece of reporting from Vice. Where the right aren’t demonized and taken out of context. I never thought I’d see the day. Maybe the world is turning towards a brighter day.

A bit of sense. What is the point of the continuous tapping and squeaking sounds in the background?

Vice thank you for looking at both sides of politics gives people a chance to see different opinions in politics.

WOW VICE. you almost make me want to subscribe to you again. I doubt that will happen but i'm impress.

For 10 sec i was looking at the name of channel and title of the video and couldnt believe its Vice💁😅

I miss Dr Cohen!!❤❤❤

“There is an appetite for defamation” 👌🏻

Cohen is a real Russia expert. The Canada and Mexico analogy is very good. In addition to that, Ukrainians are at "best" mixed about NATO, even when you don't include ACTUALLY (yes, REALLY) pro-Russian regions like Donbass and Crimea. And most ex-Eastern Bloc countries didn't even NATO because of Russia, it was just part of their integration to the West, as they joined the EU. Yes, there were and are some that are anti-Russian (like the Baltics and Poland), but most of EE countries are quite different, some even have good relations with Russia.

theres alot cut out and i really want to see

If there is no real threat create a boogeyman

So true. It is obvious today.

True agree 💯

is the full video available

Rare Vice W

finally some sense is heard

Good clip, about time this topic is covered.

“As a nation, we began by declaring that 'all men are created equal.' We now practically read it 'all men are created equal, except negroes.' When the Know-Nothings get control, it will read 'all men are created equal, except negroes, and foreigners, and Catholics.' When it comes to this I should prefer emigrating to some country where they make no pretense of loving liberty - to Russia, for instance, where despotism can be taken pure, and without the base alloy of hypocrisy.” ― Abraham Lincoln, Lincoln Letters

We can't keep blaming everything on Russia, if America told Ukraine to shell a nuclear power plant than the west would just blame it on Russia.

What is said in this video is common knowledge in most EU countries. Understanding a geopolitical situation does not mean that you support the other party. From my European point of view, the violently negative reactions to this video are shocking. I would like to think that a big part of them are trolls, but I doubt it is the case.

I'm guessing that this interview took place at Manhattan's Russian Tea Room..

everyone should watch this

5 mins only?

Stephen F. Cohen, prominent contemporary American scholar of Russia and USSR, friend of Gorbachev and adviser to Bush, Dies at 81

I will show this video to all of my US friends.

This actually made sense!

Two very smart men. I’m surprised liberally biased vice had shown this.

I think this is the most positive like to dislike ratio good for you vice

"We have nothing to fear, but fear itself."

"Didn't sovereign states of Eastern Europe have the right to ask to join NATO?" "NO! That's a foolish view of international politics." Poland asking for a security guarantee from France and Britain in 1939 was presumably "foolish" too. The "realist" school of international relations is very, very simplistic. Sometimes it throws up some good conclusions, sometimes it just leads to empty-headed Realpolitik.

I'm amazed Vice would allow something as intelligent as this on their platform. How was this allowed to happen?

Rip😢

I appreciate and applaud those who are writing constructive comments that are rooted in international relations. It is clear, who does and does not have a background in US-Russian affairs and international relations writ large

RIP Stephen :-/

So Trump did good??

Just came back to see this

As a Russian living in america, I completely agree, americans need to stop demonizing Russians for no reason

And they were both absolutely correct

Something to think about.

why am i seeing CRTV ad before this video... wtf...

Is it just me or was the host a little rude when they first started

Ok I understand trying to let Ukraine in NATO might have have ignited tension between the west and Russia but that doesn’t justify Russia invading Ukraine and ANNEXING CRIMEA.