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AMF 82-30 Common Stops and Calls 

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@8230PinChaser
@8230PinChaser 5 месяцев назад
I'm amazed, you're about the age when I first wandered to the back of a 50-lane center that had 30 center lanes with the 82-70 ball lifts. The center closed in April 2018 (I threw the last ball there) and I remember there being an absolute mishmash of various alterations including a few digital chassis, a "hump back" ball lift on two of the -70 lifts, and a number of other things. I wasn't at the level of mechanic but I did have to do nearly all of the things described here. You speak very well and one can easily understand what you have to say.
@Joethepro181
@Joethepro181 5 месяцев назад
Thank you so much! I’m glad you enjoyed the video and sorry your center closed down:/. Make sure you keep tuning in! We go live on Sunday nights, except this week we are going live tomorrow night as well! **Okay I just looked at your channel and now I have something more to say! The video I’m linking in this comment that you uploaded was probably one of the very first videos I ever watched online of an 82-30! I started getting interested in these machines when I started junior bowling at my center when I was 5 years old. I vividly remember watching that exact video on my mom’s iPhone(one of the first iPhones to come out!). This is great thank you for commenting and send me an email, I’d love to have a conversation with you! My RU-vid contact email is joethepro181@gmail.com. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-9Tks7O5pPAw.htmlsi=EVyqZ2RIHuzSdhUo
@mr.ksplacekevynmarshall7721
This is a great video Joe. I think I mentioned on a live previously that I am the same age as your machines. This brings back many memories for me. There were several centers in my area that had 82-30s. All of them are gone now.
@GONZAPADILLA1
@GONZAPADILLA1 Год назад
Thank you very much for this videos
@mr.ksplacekevynmarshall7721
Very informative and check you out soon on the next LIVE.
@donbuttaccio4464
@donbuttaccio4464 Год назад
Great job Joe..
@Joethepro181
@Joethepro181 Год назад
Thanks don
@glennschlorf1285
@glennschlorf1285 Год назад
Cool video... almost got a few bowling lanes last fall
@PROFF420
@PROFF420 Год назад
Keep these great videos coming im not even fixing them anymore but love your videos
@Joethepro181
@Joethepro181 Год назад
Thanks, will do!
@aaronz9410
@aaronz9410 Год назад
Makes you miss it for sure. As much as I hated some of the tough jobs (carpet, backstop, whatever else) I would love to give it a go again. A couple of weeks ago I entered my families abandoned (recently sold for the 6+ acres of land, but the city still made us board up the broken window), and I decided to go to the pit and grab a few tools that were left. The smell itself just made me miss it, its like I know I came home smelling like this, not smelling the greatest, but the smell just made me want to jump right back in. Between that smell, and Joe's videos, yeah I miss the days of the past.
@LongtowerNyc
@LongtowerNyc Год назад
Back in the day when we had ball doirnissues we would use a broom stick and wedge it and paddle the ball and pin out the door. It worked all the time but the other issue was it clicked the pit sensor and cycled the machine.
@eminemele1531
@eminemele1531 Год назад
We still have 82-30s at my job right now. These vids help a lot as i want to train with the mechanic to learn more about them :) only difference between our machines and urs is the ball return- we have a paddle that goes back and forth? Not two separate doors.
@Joethepro181
@Joethepro181 Год назад
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@Sean-mclaughlin
@Sean-mclaughlin Год назад
Great video Joe. Love those 82-30’s. I remember also clearing black outs (table-sweep crash) and out of cycle chassis where the sweep and table are out of sync and can lead to a crash, and pins kicked out front.
@Joethepro181
@Joethepro181 Год назад
Yeah we don’t really get those calls because all of our chassis’ are converted to the boards. Super cool
@Sean-mclaughlin
@Sean-mclaughlin Год назад
@@Joethepro181 nice. Where I started my career they had, and still do have, the original chassis’s. Back when I started the machines were not well maintained. 36 of them with lots of problems that lingered for years. Long after I left to work on 70’s, pro bowler Doug Kent bought the place and put a lot of money into them. Now they run great. Still, the 30’s are the best.
@Joethepro181
@Joethepro181 Год назад
@@Sean-mclaughlin Will never get rid of mine, I love ‘em, run better than the 70’s around here
@Sean-mclaughlin
@Sean-mclaughlin Год назад
@@Joethepro181 I totally agree with that!
@aaronz9410
@aaronz9410 Год назад
How about a black out with the sweep or even table coming down on your back. Yeah I know, it was dumb of me to enter the machine without all the motors unplugged, but yeah it happened a couple of times. I remember the first time, me panicing (everything but the sweep motor being unplugged, and the sweep coming down on my back), and my uncle (who had decades more experience on 30s) laughing at me and telling me to just let it black out. In the end the black out feature was a truly amazing safety feature, truly ahead of its time. From what I was told early 70s didn't have the feature and it caused a few deaths.
@mindorokano
@mindorokano Год назад
The incessant ball return used to drive me nuts. Or when the sweep would lock in the back and the table would sit on top of it, and have to hand crank that beast back up... The best used to be when the ball would end stalled in the channel, and dumbass people would stick their heads in the channel way looking for the ball.
@Joethepro181
@Joethepro181 Год назад
Yeah people are fun!
@jackywackysmacky4031
@jackywackysmacky4031 Год назад
Cool video. I work on these. A pain in the butt but incredible system honestly. I couldve never come up with it.
@Joethepro181
@Joethepro181 Год назад
Great machines when maintained! Thanks for the comment and make sure you hit subscribe!:)
@KC9UDX
@KC9UDX Год назад
I wouldn't have. How did they come up with that overcomplicated distributor?
@Joethepro181
@Joethepro181 Год назад
@@KC9UDXAt the time, with the technology they had, that was the best option
@KC9UDX
@KC9UDX Год назад
@@Joethepro181 not to me. Before I ever saw a Brunswick or knew how they worked ,I wondered why AMFs didn't work that way. That's the obvious way to me.
@user-ku2rz7eb7g
@user-ku2rz7eb7g 5 месяцев назад
Joe, this is Harold. I worked in a 40-lane center in Largo Florida (Largo Lanes). The first 16 were open pin wheels and the other 24 were solid pin wheels. I loved working there, but the one problem that has stumped me is clearing an off spot pin. I tried to do it the way I was shown, but I always came up with a machine that was "out of time." Can you show how to correctlly do this call on your next video? Thank you
@Joethepro181
@Joethepro181 5 месяцев назад
We don’t really get that call… usually it either misses the pin or one of the respot cells gets bent up…
@CaptianNamco
@CaptianNamco Год назад
Fantastic video what about out of range what does a AMF pin spotter do for out of range
@Joethepro181
@Joethepro181 Год назад
Nothing really, unless you get unlucky and the pin lines up perfectly under a Respot cell bracket. Usually you just have to set it back up
@CaptianNamco
@CaptianNamco Год назад
@@Joethepro181 awesome thanks for answering my question How often does a deadwood happen with a AMF pin spotter
@Joethepro181
@Joethepro181 Год назад
@@CaptianNamco All the time
@GONZAPADILLA1
@GONZAPADILLA1 Год назад
Do you have a video of what will be a normal maintenance on this machine Joe the 82-30
@Joethepro181
@Joethepro181 Год назад
I have a basic cleaning video, that’s about as close as I have for now
@jasonmurawski5877
@jasonmurawski5877 4 месяца назад
Hey, I’m currently 18 and this fall I’m going to be going college for diesel mechanics and I’m planning to try and get a job at a local bowling alley fixing the machines. Do you have any tips for someone starting out?
@Joethepro181
@Joethepro181 4 месяца назад
It depends on what type of machines you will be dealing with. If you are working with AMF machines I can definitely help you out! I try to cover specifically 82-30 stuff but I can help you if they have 70’s also. Let me know! Shoot me a email at joethepro181@gmail.com. Anything you fix remember to do it right the first time!!
@coasterp2199
@coasterp2199 Год назад
What happens if the table should happen to come down on an offspot pin? I'm guessing a lot of times the pin will be knocked over due to the design of the table but what about the one time everything lines up perfectly?
@Joethepro181
@Joethepro181 Год назад
Then you get a bent re-spot cell… usually you get lucky and it’ll just fall over but once in awhile one lines up just right and screws up a re-spot cell
@coasterp2199
@coasterp2199 Год назад
@@Joethepro181 Kinda what I envisioned. Thanks for confirming. On a side note, if you ever get to Omaha and need a job, we'll be hiring in the future. let me know if interested.
@Joethepro181
@Joethepro181 Год назад
@@coasterp2199 Thank you! I will keep that in mind!!
@aaronz9410
@aaronz9410 Год назад
@@Joethepro181 in my experience 95% or more of the time its either going to knock it over or black out without bending anything. That 5% though, unless you can knock it back with a hammer, you will be sitting on the machine for the rest of the night. As much as I hated those nights truly I miss it. Thinking about the hammer thing. It reminds me of something that happened 20 plus years ago. A guy that worked for us (I recently ran into him at one of our local Sheetz where he was working) had whatever happen (I was like 12 years old at the time so I didn't know all that much, and couldn't begin to tell you or even remember what it was) and he was beating on something with a hammer (with 15 other lanes of league bowling going on) yelling "work you son of a b***h, work." All of that heard up front over the other 15 lanes (the hammer hitting "ding ding ding" before and after him saying that). Needless to say the SOB worked at that point. Personally I never got that that point myself but did beat on something with a hammer with the thought of it will either fix it or its broke already and I will have to replace it tomorrow, beating the living s**t out of it with a hammer will not hurt. Sometimes the old saying if it moves and shouldn't use duck tape (or super glue), and if it doesn't move and should use WD-40 (PB Blaster is better IMO) or a hammer. That is true when push comes to shove.
@Drayman1011
@Drayman1011 8 месяцев назад
I would like to have the opportunity to work on an AMF machine. Clearing calls on the Brunswick A1's was pretty stressful during leagues, had a lot of catastrophic failures on those old machines
@Joethepro181
@Joethepro181 8 месяцев назад
I don’t know them too well so I don’t know what it’s like, these ones have their times as well
@Drayman1011
@Drayman1011 8 месяцев назад
@@Joethepro181 A1's don't have a lot of safety features that were fixed in the A2 versions. Some calls requirs the machine to be turned off and sometimes put into first ball, clearing the deck and respot. The machines I worked on liked to drop pins
@Joethepro181
@Joethepro181 8 месяцев назад
@@Drayman1011 yikes!
@joshuahuson1409
@joshuahuson1409 9 месяцев назад
Dude your front roller is shot. That thing is knocking pretty hard
@Joethepro181
@Joethepro181 9 месяцев назад
These machines were not properly maintained for 20 years… Many of the front roller hinge shafts are worn and I’m still in the process of rebuilding the pits… after 20 years of neglect it takes a while to make up for that, but I’m working on it
@TRAXRIPPER
@TRAXRIPPER 5 месяцев назад
Well lane 1 may have a staged ball issue but the first thing i hear in the first few minutes is a front roller in need of some help! Pin that thing back and pull that carpet bounce plate and rear roller before the bearings create an issue like rip the carpet the roller seats or the hex bolts are loose. Should not be as usually trying to remove them without heat will snap off as many hex sockets you care to buy! Are they the old style stepper relay chassis? I know they made updates that almost are like the 82 70 MP Single board chassis and the 90 XLs But i learned on the 30s in the 80s with the old heavy ass stepper relay chassis. Well heavy for a kid who was like 7 the first time i went in the back it was 1984 and the way the house was set up the pit was really the pit the lanes and machines were elevated a little higher then most because it was under the shopping center so you went down 2 flights of stairs to get to center then down a step to concourse then down another to seat area the approach was step up but to go in the back it was not ramp down to the lanes were knee high then at the door to back another ramp down so in the back all the carpets were elevated cause all the pits were on like adj feet but solid to hold weight! So i did lots of sweeping under those 30 lanes. Like a pin could roll under a machine just the very bottom of pin wheel is only spot where it may hit the belly of pin but as a 7 year old what that did was make the first experience of my 82 30s for almost til i was 20 WAS MAKE MY FIRST 30S SEEM LIKE GIANTS! AND IT WAS AWESOME! SO LOUD! SO SCARY! SO HUGE! AND I LIVED ON THEM SUCKERS! I COULDN'T GET ENOUGH! But what a bitch as i learned later on how easy a 70 or 90 pit and distributer come out even out the back where those 30s CARPETS BOUNCE PLATES AND ROLLERS WERE COMING UP AND OUT OVER THE PIN DECK AND OUT ON THE BACK END! THEY WERE NOT GOING OUT THE BACK. ESPECIALLY SINCE THINGS WERE ELEVATED SOME ALL THE REARS WERE PINNED TO EACH OTHER AND TO THE PIN DECKS WITH A SET UP TO KEEP EVERYTHING IN SPEC WITH JUST CRAZYNESS BY THE TIME I WAS THERE SINCE IT OPENED IN THE 50S I WAS BORN IN 77 SO ALL THE 80S AND 90S I WAS ON 30S NOT FAR REMOVED FROM THE ORIGINAL CHAIN DRIVE SUCKERS THAT ATE FINGERS OF MANY MEN BEFORE ME! EVEN VINCE ONE OF THE OWNERS WAS MISSING PART OF HIS PINKY AND MADE IT A POINT TO ALWAYS YELL AT ME AND SAY... YOU SEE THIS SWEEP LEVER? WHEN YOU RUN THIS SWEEP YOU NEVER STICK YOUR HAND IN THAT CAM OR IT WILL CUT IT THE FUCK OFF LIKE THIS! WHEN YOU SET THE DISTRIBUTER ON TRACK AND SET THE BEARING JUST BACK LEFT A GEAR AT 5 PIN NEVER GET YOUR FINGER UNDER IT OR IT WILL CUT IT THE FUCK OFF JUST LIKE THIS OTHER ONE! LOL MADE HIS POINT AND I GOT ALL 10 AT 47 AND BEEN IN MANY MACHINES FROM COAST TO COAST! I could go on forever! Lol But you know what im saying so you probably wanna stick my head in a respot gripper by now to shut me up! Fair enough! LMFAO
@Joethepro181
@Joethepro181 5 месяцев назад
It’s not the roller, it’s the shafts the hinges sit on. These machines were neglected for about 20 years or so until I came around. The chassis’ have been updated with the Omega tek boards. It sounds like you have been around these machines a lot! I love them. They run great if you maintain them properly. They will be here for a long time
@TRAXRIPPER
@TRAXRIPPER 5 месяцев назад
@@Joethepro181 when I started we still had wood lanes we line and dust by hand stripped and dry toweled by hand. And oiled to 35 feet with a Century 100 wick machine with the shims in the upper blocks to set the oil pattern to the wick below! And the ball return motors were Century And the sweep & table and backends were all Westinghouse! I know GE and Westinghouse are still in use and AO Smith was in business for a bit and now Baldor but I have not seen a Century since like 89. And yeah My dad and Uncle were both in the pit and bowled so I got an extra early start and access in Pennsylvania! I went on to the 70s some of the 90xls at Dover Air Force base The old Brunswick As the 1950s baby shit green ones and some newer A2s with jet backs. The old As still had some Otis Elevator tags and stamps that was the founder of the Brunswick pinspotter but I did kegel lane maintenance ran the Phoenix S Tournament edition the Lane Walker worked on Qubica, Magic Score, AMF BOSS. Big Old Shitty System direct from Asshole Mother Fuckers! But I'm an AMF guy but I've seen Twister pins come and go! The Mendez Machines Spent years as a kid ripping tele scores for league and sharpening yellow pencils to learning THE AMF HPL 9000 Synthetic lane surface and topography and how to read loads of oil from board to board IPS travel speeds boards crossed how many loads at what distances forward oil for shape reverse oil for volume total microliters how to set a buffed or hard defined line at the oil to backend end of pattern transfer to the dry. I've cranked way many sweeps on them ones on the 30s getting that carriage back on track from morons on Saturday nights moon light just drunk throwing multiple balls and blasting the sweep off and then it would get wedged back on the pin deck on the gutter edge and all crooked in the pit! Lol it's funny now but people are dumb! And yes I do fully say I stand corrected and no doubt you are right you are there but I think you understand what I heard and why I thought that and also knew once you explained it I would agree therefore coming to the conclusion that somehow we went from just some young guys who found something special with the machines To the Masters who are the last generation to know and work hands on and know the era were in and how and why they got there because we know first hand the past eras that is the foundation. Don't lose your passion! It keeps the old man out but let's his wisdom in! And yes the machines know we are there and they prove they have personalities by being certain to do exactly what we have been watching for hours to catch as soon as we turn our back due to another call or just go take a leak! You can almost hear them go HA HA every damn time! LMFAO! FACTS!
@Joethepro181
@Joethepro181 5 месяцев назад
We have a Kegel lane machine now but the old century machine is in the basement. It’s never been used since I’ve been around
@TRAXRIPPER
@TRAXRIPPER 5 месяцев назад
@@Joethepro181 That thing should be encased and on display at the National Bowling Stadium in Reno! Next to the original DBA lane walker! The one with flippers that looked like a drunk sea turtle trying to flop its way from lane to lane! LMFAO! Stick a Dick Weber 5 star ⭐ Power Ball on an above ground ball return rack between them and we almost have an iconic set of Relics that almost seem to come from a different planet! Add a spotting table that's spring loaded with a foot pedal to release to spot and load by hand then we just crossed into another dimension! LMAO But even the great pyramid has carvings of what was an earlier form of bowling! But they used like 9 pins! Maybe they used it to shoot bowling balls into space and the pins were the stars! Lol I mean the foundation and actual physics of bowling balls and how they work and planets themselves and how they spin and cycles through space are founded the exact same! Orbital mechanics from a spinning planet or a 3 piece spinning bowling ball can be explained and predicted because of that relationship! But don't overthink think it! Knock down 10 pins every shot and it's 300s ALL DAY! LMAO My first 300 is on the books back when it was still ABC so i got that throwback history as checked fact! Lol
@kohlcytre
@kohlcytre Год назад
Can you show where the second ball switch is? I’m new to the 82/30s and trying to learn whatever I can. Thanx
@Joethepro181
@Joethepro181 Год назад
So there isn’t really a second ball switch, you just have to run it through a cycle
@kohlcytre
@kohlcytre Год назад
With the push button?
@Joethepro181
@Joethepro181 Год назад
@@kohlcytre yes. There is a cycle button on the switch panel just below the back end motor
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