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An honest conversation about Suzuki's DRZ400 (SM) 

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@FullPinMoto
@FullPinMoto 7 лет назад
Suzukis thinking process " what color should we do this year"
@farley4633
@farley4633 7 лет назад
Full Pin Moto Bold new graphics!!
@a.whiteman4182
@a.whiteman4182 7 лет назад
I wish they'd get away from the blacks and whites...and go back to the blue's.
@FullPinMoto
@FullPinMoto 7 лет назад
A. Whiteman and keep the gold rims
@OwwSoWaVeY
@OwwSoWaVeY 7 лет назад
Full Pin Moto lmao...funny because its true
@nunyabizniz50
@nunyabizniz50 6 лет назад
A variety of camo . Desert tan Urban black multicam some bright color camos maybe something like a bright green grey and black .
@paulaaron2987
@paulaaron2987 6 лет назад
I own a DRZ and I agree with every statement in your video. But damn I have a shit load of fun just messing around on it. One other point is I have never been mechanically inclined but the older tech and the amount of info out there on the internet is a great advantage for me when repairs (rarely) or regular maintenance issues come up.
@Smoove233
@Smoove233 7 лет назад
I was prepared to tell you how wrong you are but you're extremely right. If they had some competition that would be nice. I wish the WR450 came street legal
@HeroRR
@HeroRR 7 лет назад
With the discontinuation of the WR250R I am hoping that Yamaha will release a 450R or maybe even, dare I say, a 450X. I doubt it, but it would be awesome.
@Smoove233
@Smoove233 7 лет назад
HEROrr Agreed
@csutfinpaintballer
@csutfinpaintballer 7 лет назад
all the 4strokes of ktm and husky are street legal, i know they are pricey and would love to see other companies make sumos but just a thought.
@Smoove233
@Smoove233 7 лет назад
5280Rider Not as reliable though imo
@MRBIGCOHONEZ
@MRBIGCOHONEZ 7 лет назад
Caleb Whitted actually not reliable at all.
@maxbrap
@maxbrap 3 года назад
It’s easy, just get older. Had my First SM in 05, I was a 37 year old that had been road racing non stop from the age of 17. I had the bike for a few months, sold it because it wasn’t “fast”. Because I owned a used motorcycle shop, I kept finding them at good prices and I would ride them a lot while they were in inventory. Eventually I figured out an SM was worth a lot more in parts than it was whole, I think I parted out 10 or 12. In I think ‘07 I bought a Husky 510 SMR because it was cheaper than modifying a DRZ and was a LOT lighter and it was “fast” (to keep things in perspective, I raced a K5 GSXR 1000 at the time and thought it was “kinda peppy”). It was also a terrible street bike. I’m 53 this year with all the damage a life of high risk activities rewards you with. I picked up a beautiful 6300 mile ‘05 SM this morning with all the nice things already done (ti yosh, 3x3, extra crash protection and a decent seat) for a nice price. I am extremely pleased to even find one, since COVID they are vapor ware, let alone a particularly cherry one owned by someone that was in his 50s when it was new. In summation: just age.
@bartsimpson8616
@bartsimpson8616 Год назад
im a 2 years younger then you , also im in bikes , when you got motorcycle shop ,and you can do easy why not found good cr 250 , and make it supermoto , and find good old rgv at least 250 or rd or tzr 350 , those 2strokes are ultimate bikes which give max enjoy riding them,...i dont know if there is in usa Husqvarna Nuda , that bike is beauty ,and great for daily use ..
@Venomrs4
@Venomrs4 5 лет назад
Nobody realizes that if Suzuki re-designs the DRZ400, the EPA may regard it as a new bike. Thus requiring it to conform to more strict emissions regulations. It's the same reason Suzuki, Honda, and Kawasaki have not re-designed the 650 dual sports in decades. They're grandfathered in. Having to meet new emissions regulations will cost more money. Yea, you may get your 6 speed, fuel injection, aluminum frame, etc...maybe it'll even become a drz450! But if you think all the upgrades and updates will not yield a price hike, your naive.
@wrenchrat
@wrenchrat 2 года назад
Bingo
@sneakyshaffer7247
@sneakyshaffer7247 2 года назад
yeah I would drop a extra 2 or 3k for that tho I think most people would
@Venomrs4
@Venomrs4 2 года назад
@@sneakyshaffer7247 I’m not so sure. Everybody thought the CRF450RL would be selling well but it isn’t. People are just ponying up a little more and getting Euro bikes. A 40%+ hike in price is a lot.
@sneakyshaffer7247
@sneakyshaffer7247 Год назад
@@Venomrs4 yeah its not so much the price tag don't get me wrong alot of people don't wanna get it bc of it but it does not sell that well bc of how hard engine braking is on the bike and it being almost unrideable unless u spend anther 2k on ecu and exhaust.. on top of the the service on it bc its a race bike is crazy like valve checks every 1800 miles and oil change ever 500 and some other stuff that most people just don't wanna deal with it
@mjo4981
@mjo4981 Год назад
So fuel inject it and clean up the emissions! What's the big deal, they've been making it for 20 years.
@zz99zzz
@zz99zzz 5 лет назад
I was you - last year. I finally gave in and got a new 2018 sm. Everything you say is true, I've got a yosh pipe, 3+3, jet kit and voila-so much better than stock. Also traded brake lines, huge difference in feedback and control. Just give in, the frame is not noticeable, carbs are cool as you point out, even the 5th gear is ok now that I've had one. the only thing I will be adding is a TOP gear indicator, I seem to try and grab 6th all the time. Sure, an aluminum framed fuel injected 450motor(RMZ) with 6 gears would be the bomb....but its not there for now and you correctly identify that all the competition that has these, still fall just short of the DR package.One last thing, I got a new one because I couldn't bring myself to pay so close to the new price for used ones. I convinced myself to get the new because the re-sale will always be good.
@M3xiiii
@M3xiiii 7 лет назад
Been thinking about this for years dude nothing compares to the old drz400e and xr400r the reliability and the simplicity is amazing
@theguitarhero898
@theguitarhero898 4 года назад
I love this video. This is like the 7th time I've watched it. Great video, your content rocks.
@terrycremer9217
@terrycremer9217 4 года назад
I've done 23,000 km on my DRZ sm, 10,000km of road with 21" 18" KTM wheels I bought and 13,000km on road screaming up and down twisty winding ranges and I've only had to shim the valves and a new timing chain. The sm is great as a trail bike and a fun road bike. Takes me about half an hour to change the wheels.
@SantinoDeluxe
@SantinoDeluxe 7 лет назад
its an emissions problem, the drz400 is grandfathered in as a design that passed emissions at the time of creation... nobody could make a bike like that anymore cuz of new laws. they cant even update the drz with a 6speed gearbox or aluminum frame cuz any change to the design needs to pass the new standards. the drz is the underground bike surviving off love in the aftermarket scene and mod tutorials. i suggest gettting an old e model and turning it street legal, its the cheapest path.
@HeroRR
@HeroRR 7 лет назад
+SantinoDeluxe yeah. You're absolutely right. Stupid emissions are ruining awesome bikes.
@SantinoDeluxe
@SantinoDeluxe 7 лет назад
i mean, idk you might compare it to the ktm 390 @~$4k-5k, but nothing beats a dualsport imo
@LozzerGuide
@LozzerGuide 7 лет назад
Uh.. Not really. A modern competitor could be lighter, make more power, AND do better on emissions. And let's be honest here - the manufacturers likely realize everyone is running after market exhausts and could easily just throw a giant cat as a last ditch effort on it if need be.
@SantinoDeluxe
@SantinoDeluxe 7 лет назад
+HEROrr i might add tho, e-bikes for off-road will bring a resurgence to the market, less noise and no smoke means less complaints and more open trails... were just waiting on battery tech which is right around the corner. ppl make CNT cells in their garage these days.
@a.whiteman4182
@a.whiteman4182 7 лет назад
What's important is color and graphics. Suzuki is starting to step it up in that department.
@John-ih7gp
@John-ih7gp 7 лет назад
The best breakdown I have seen on youtube. Well done sir!
@estebanr4217
@estebanr4217 6 лет назад
I agree 100%. I'm a huge fan of this bike as well as the DR650, but I am dying for EFI and some freaking updated tech on these bikes. Great video man!
@bradmweiss
@bradmweiss 7 лет назад
i had a DRZsm(loved it) but couldn’t take it everywhere, sold it, bought a fz07(thought i could make it into a supermoto , sold it and just got the husky 701- it is everything you want and more. bike is awesome. i would agree with you but to go to a 450/500cc , the 701 single is well worth the extra $$ .
@reptilesgamers00
@reptilesgamers00 5 лет назад
but that's a lot of money. I'm only so rich sir
@gamwpanagia
@gamwpanagia 4 года назад
Yikes, these bikes are for rich hobbyists
@mrobertson188
@mrobertson188 4 года назад
I'd give my left nut for a new husky 701 supermoto
@blixxy1320
@blixxy1320 2 года назад
Its crazy if you think about it. same weight, twice the power. but the drz is cheap asf and you don't feel bad about beating on it or looping it trying to learn wheelies.
@TheHumanSpirit
@TheHumanSpirit 6 лет назад
JAPAN, please hear this man!
@mtube620
@mtube620 5 лет назад
I never touched a sportbike or cruiser ever in my 30 years of riding. If japan doesn't want my money, they won't bait me to buy hippo bikes
@geoffxx12
@geoffxx12 4 года назад
This popped up in my feed probably because my phone heard me say the words drz this week. But I already have one, I love it, and I hope you got one in the last 2 years. Most fun I've had with my pants on.
@troy8423
@troy8423 3 года назад
Could be because your google and RU-vid are linked
@scootaa44
@scootaa44 7 лет назад
incredibly accurate video. I'm in the exact same position of wanting one really bad but you see what you can get for a similar price, makes it hard to make the purchase.
@SlowishActual
@SlowishActual 4 года назад
As a DR-Z owner... I agree with many of your points. Doesn't diminish my never-ending love of my machine, however.
@Rick_Sanchez_C137_
@Rick_Sanchez_C137_ 4 года назад
AMERICANS: “We want a quality modern dual sport for a reasonable price!” MANUFACTURERS: “And here we have the Kawasaki Z125 PRO...... ‘PRO’ is short for ‘professional’ snazzy, huh?”
@ObitoUchihaisgay
@ObitoUchihaisgay 4 года назад
The market clearly showed that the honda grom was what the people wanted and the z125 is better in pretty much every way
@dark-starchemistryfabricat2405
@dark-starchemistryfabricat2405 3 года назад
Their just so goof-ball looking lol and Id totally get one
@canadiantriple2441
@canadiantriple2441 7 лет назад
Great bike. Finally added one to the family this year. My son & I Love it. I would not change anything about it. Except colours & graphics.
@noelreyestv
@noelreyestv 7 лет назад
Great video! I just got my first bike n is a 2014 suzuki drz400 n i love it
@michaelmckay
@michaelmckay 7 лет назад
Pfffft joke is on you, I am a Husky FE 501 owner, I can go 800 miles before checking valves! HA Yeah looking for another bike to keep the hours of the husky now :(
@iD4v1d
@iD4v1d 6 лет назад
Mike McKay If you don't rev the fuck out of them every time you ride, these high performance KTM/Husky engines can last way longer than the manual says
@Frank88Workz
@Frank88Workz 6 лет назад
Actually my 500 exc is at 450H original piston/crank/even clutch I've seen a few 800+ hours on stock piston as well... Pretty reliable for the HP/weight ratio. (there also 2 snowbike season on mine...)
@walkervalleymedia
@walkervalleymedia 6 лет назад
im at 450 hours now just doing piston, old piston looked good really.
@emes3211
@emes3211 5 лет назад
drz's piston lasts bout 20-50kkm. n now what?
@drissgreen1280
@drissgreen1280 5 лет назад
great, every 3 weeks
@hompalai
@hompalai 6 лет назад
Dont complain about no power untill you ride a 50cc 4 speed moped like me 👉😎👉
@killcha_in
@killcha_in 6 лет назад
same lmao
@Xvinfajtr
@Xvinfajtr 6 лет назад
what bike?
@hompalai
@hompalai 6 лет назад
Xvinfajtr it was a chinese honda clone but now i have a 70cc 2stroke
@gilbertsanchez2568
@gilbertsanchez2568 5 лет назад
I have a 110cc pitbike haha
@gamwpanagia
@gamwpanagia 5 лет назад
I have a 70s vespa 😃
@jonbromfield7643
@jonbromfield7643 4 года назад
I've got a 2002 drz s fitted with road tyres. Its handling. Manoeuvering, height and reliability make it a brilliant commuting bike through heavy traffic. I've put 41,000 miles on it and apart from the stator the engine has been totally reliable. And this bike is used daily through out the year in England. Downsides The brakes size due to road salt. The wheel bearing collars wear but stainless steal one are available. All in all a great motorcycle
@iceman_75
@iceman_75 4 года назад
About ten years ago I bought a super clean DR650S with low miles for about $3000. Super reliable motor with very little maintenance. Then a year later bought a set of SM wheels and tires. I had a blast on it while I owned it but I always like the look of the DRZ400SM better.
@user-vf3gf4xq3v
@user-vf3gf4xq3v 5 лет назад
Bought one new in 09. Put about 5,500 miles on it and got rid of it. I've had many other bikes but the closes thing I've had to my DRZ in weight, maintenance intervals and purpose is my 16 KTM690R. Those points are where the similarity ends. The 690 has 70 HP, EFI, 6 gears, switchable ABS, and a better suspension. Yes its more expensive, I paid 10,500 for my 2016 690 new. However, consider that you may end up spending that or more on your DRZ if you start with the new one and fully mod it. Even then you'd still come up short.
@heyby8764
@heyby8764 2 года назад
what? a 700 has more power then 400 . all most double the size for allmost double the power . ok? drz 7500 new vs ktm 12500 new. dont think you can compare. plus your getting 1 or 2 ins less suspension and back shock know to leak. plus ktm fames are know to break with there bad welds. so more of a street bike if you like it to last it seems. you have any problems with your bikes?
@jrh1704
@jrh1704 2 года назад
@@heyby8764 Your grammar is poor.
@T.S.-eo7my
@T.S.-eo7my 4 месяца назад
If I bought every bell and whistle for the DRZ, there’s still no way I’d hit $10k
@thegan9143
@thegan9143 6 лет назад
Don't understand the bs about KTM reliability and maintenance intervals. I think there is a lot of people that treat their bike like their lawn mower, never clean it, never change the oil, never replace the air filter and expect it to last. Those people are best suit to owning lawnmower like bikes that they use up and replace after a couple of years. I've owned a 690r, awesome bike and put 15k on it using it as an off road and rally bike. Did a few multi day trips (there are numerous rack options - guess those that say otherwise have never owned a 690) It was extremely reliable despite the hard use it saw in sand, mud, swamp, woods rocks etc. Not as nimble as a dirt bike but hell I rode it to a good finish in a 600 mile 1 day off road rally with some very tough conditions. Took us 17hrs to get through. The wiring harness does need to be better protected if you are going to bury the bike in mud and water on a regular basis but the two known areas are easy to get to and wrap better as a preventative maintenance effort. Sold the 690 and got a 500exc as a better and more off road oriented bike. Dead reliable with 13k on it 90% in the dirt, rocks, single track and even took it on a 800 mile 4 day off road trip with all the camping gear I needed. Maintenance intervals amount to oil changes and occasional valve checks to confirm yet once again that after 250+hrs of use they haven't moved. Not knocking the DRZ, KLR, WR etc just saying the KTM/Husky is a viable option, Beta as well though dealer support is a bit thin this side of the pond.
@whiteraven4417
@whiteraven4417 6 лет назад
You put a video together that is educational and interesting. Your format is great. l enjoy your professionalism. l look forward to your good work in future:-)
@HeroRR
@HeroRR 6 лет назад
Thank you! :-)
@jamesh4839
@jamesh4839 7 лет назад
I'm right there with you. I want one bad but I keep waiting for an updated version to come out.
@prosport1916
@prosport1916 6 лет назад
I have a 2007 DRZ 400 S (with suggested mods) Love it! Build a 6 speed, EFI, Aluminum Frame! (keep the dry sump oil system). I will buy it!
@tuliprhonda
@tuliprhonda 7 лет назад
I just got into dual sport (and motorcycles in general) last year. It was both exciting and sad because there's just nothing out there. If something is listed, as you said, it's still very pricey. I have no idea why the manufacturers aren't putting effort into dual sports as there's a huge vibrant community wanting them.
@cbkenison
@cbkenison 6 лет назад
With all that being sad, this was a well put together video and you hit a lot of great points. 6 gears and efi would be so much better. Cheers mate
@bpowa
@bpowa 6 лет назад
Nice Vid.. I had all 3 brands including a DRZ 400sm. You describing a husky 501 and a ktm 500 as your wish list. It is all the items I wished when I had my first supermoto/DRZ.
@Powerslider
@Powerslider 3 года назад
4:04 : Actually having more tech on board makes it more prone to fail. Some people love minimalistic bikes, and for me it's one of the appealing aspects of a supermoto.
@PaulSpades
@PaulSpades 4 года назад
It ALWAYS hurts to add more electronics. Your definition of technology makes me sad. Mechanical systems are technology, and reliable mechanics are not a feature for dualsports, it needs to be THE main feature. And the old, trusty, KLRs and DRZs have it.
@xtcrider8270
@xtcrider8270 4 года назад
electronics are a nice comfort but not something you want to rely on out in the middle of bumfuck nowhere
@350zKiller
@350zKiller 4 года назад
Paul-Adrian Stoleriu How is adding a sixth gear and make it fuel injected and lighter a bad thing or make it less reliable you got to be crazy as long as you actually take care of your bike and stay on top of the maintenance that comes along with the bike you’ll be just fine and it will be just as reliable it’s not like he’s talking about adding Bluetooth and WiFi and shit on it it’s called getting with the times and it will save you money and if you plan on going in the middle of butt fuck nowhere do a full walk around of your bike and check everything over before you leave and you’ll have just as much if not more fun since it will be lighter and you’ll save money on gas and less maintenance and a extra gear try to explain how that’s not a huge improvement especially since you folks who are scared of change could still keep the crappy older model without fuel injection or a extra gear and less weight you just sound bitter and like you gonna complain about something
@flagovhate
@flagovhate 4 года назад
@@350zKiller 6th gear means redesign of a proven engine design, fuel injection means added cost, and the potential to be left completely stranded cause your fuel pump dies, or an injector fails. There is a reason the DRZ and DR still sell like crazy.
@complex2034
@complex2034 7 лет назад
you're right with the 5speed, you're right with the frame I own one since 2014 and god I wish for the exact same bike with fuel injection, 6 speed and aluminum frame
@captainklr6508
@captainklr6508 3 года назад
Love the DRZ400 and agree with all you said. KLR650 and BMW1200GSA rider. But want a lightweight woods, adventure bike Its my next bike. Maybe we will get a surprise in 2021.... with your wishes which are my wishes. Great review.
@elliott174
@elliott174 7 лет назад
interesting point's. but also you're right, wheelie monster :D
@mohba01
@mohba01 5 лет назад
aluminum frames don't necessarily weigh lesser than steel.
@tuneba100
@tuneba100 5 лет назад
who is lesser ?
@bryans3287
@bryans3287 2 года назад
Just picked up a '07 suzuki DR-Z 400 s yellow 8,500 miles . bought a brand new yoshimura sr2 full system pipe bolted up beautifully ,sounds great ,fun bike to ride. six speed gearbox would be nice
@JonDunnmusician
@JonDunnmusician 2 года назад
You sum it up perfectly Aluminum frame, a technology dash & fuel gauge are key
@johnpace1131
@johnpace1131 3 года назад
I've become old waiting for them to upgrade these bikes.
@nicholstop8161
@nicholstop8161 4 года назад
Well I think like a month after this vid Honda released the 450 lol
@MM-ig1iv
@MM-ig1iv Год назад
They don't want to be like everyone else!!! That's a blessing! I'm getting one just because of that. Even got the optional Kickstarter which is what attracted me to a bike "dirt bike" and the carb. It's got better take off then all the under cc bikes.
@MM-ig1iv
@MM-ig1iv Год назад
Sometimes older is better! Or nice to still have a new old version. It's that simple. It still sells..
@Ryan-st7qm
@Ryan-st7qm Год назад
this was exactly the review I needed to hear
@michaelross3512
@michaelross3512 4 года назад
He's asking for a 10k + bike basically , but doesn't want to pay 7k?
@NotALizardPerson81
@NotALizardPerson81 4 года назад
Yep, that's all we need, more bikes we can't afford replacing the ones we can.
@JPtheHammer
@JPtheHammer 3 года назад
Lets be honest. A new 400SM isn't worth 7k, much less the 9000 OTD price most places are asking for them. It's a 16 year old bike, with 30 year old technology.
@rolandedrummer9723
@rolandedrummer9723 3 года назад
Not for 20 yr old technology if that.
@dirkbowman946
@dirkbowman946 6 лет назад
I love my DRZ 400 sm ( stunted out an fully modded now 470 )
@anthonykiely1989
@anthonykiely1989 6 лет назад
dirk bowman what hp do you have on your bike?
@SonicTheGoonhog
@SonicTheGoonhog 6 лет назад
dirk bowman got some info on the cams
@pistoncount
@pistoncount 6 лет назад
Love my DRZ400SM !!! Great aftermarket to make it your own.
@lexian5602
@lexian5602 7 лет назад
My SMR-511 is all I can ask for. Great bike, I would recommend it if you have the money. You can usually get then for about $7000 AUD (roughly $5500 USD). Fuel injection, aluminum frame (120kg wet, stock), 6 speed and plenty of torque. With the air filter, straight pipes, ecu flash and fuel management I have 51hp at the back wheel.
@cheekibreeki3607
@cheekibreeki3607 6 лет назад
I was thinking about getting the drz or "drowzee" as I like to call it, when I have the money and age to get an a2 bike.
@wheelieschulz1204
@wheelieschulz1204 6 лет назад
Husky 701 10k km service interval
@msc012
@msc012 6 лет назад
love the drz, but you are spot on! all my same gripes.
@stevetheaxe
@stevetheaxe 2 года назад
I've got an 06 Husky TE610. I absolutely love that bike.
@Supermofools
@Supermofools 6 лет назад
KTM SMC690, KTM SMC-R690, Husqvarna 701SM, KTM SM640 LC4 are all pretty reliable. Even the KTM EXC/Husqvarna FE are really reliable as well. Yes you need to change oil every 15 hours, but the valve clearance? Just check it every 50-75 hours and you' ll be fine. The problems with the DRZ; too heavy, not enough power, lack of a fifth gear, not a manual cam tensioner, not a proper front brake, headlight weighing about 5kg, forgot to use locktite for stator and a lot of engine problems overall. I've seen more DRZ's blow up than KTM's/Husqvarna's, and experienced it myself too. So best choice? Not a DRZ.
@willspeakman2461
@willspeakman2461 4 года назад
All those bikes are to heavy though and they all use the same engine. Ktm should make a 390sm 44hp.
@naturalcannabis3383
@naturalcannabis3383 4 года назад
This guy
@DearMajesty
@DearMajesty 4 года назад
You sound slightly full of it. There are documented and well known issues with the 640 and 690/701 motors. Also, the DRZ has a fifth gear and every bike has an automatic chain tensioner. It has a perfectly fine front brake?
@ih8momjokes1
@ih8momjokes1 3 года назад
You sound like you wish your KTM would be a little cheaper to own.
@DearMajesty
@DearMajesty 3 года назад
@@ih8momjokes1 and run better from the factory!
@abefrohman1759
@abefrohman1759 6 лет назад
Suzuki can't make any major changes unless they are willing to come out with a completely new bike. The DRZ is grandfathered in at old emissions standards and if they change anything other than cosmetics they have to meet the new much higher standards. The kawasaki KLR is in the same situation. They also know few people would pay the 10k price of a aluminum framed six-speed water cooled bike you want.
@zed-xr4353
@zed-xr4353 6 лет назад
Absolutely right. Seems like everyone wants to complain that the big 4 won't build a bike to compete with the KTM and Husky offerings but balk at the idea of paying the price that would be required.
@jacobs7244
@jacobs7244 6 лет назад
Well a fuel guage would be nice and wouldn't be that hard to work in.
@wickedleeloopy2115
@wickedleeloopy2115 6 лет назад
So a crf450L is the solution....
@IrnMaiden304
@IrnMaiden304 5 лет назад
They have made changes .... The newer models have any emissions pump/chamber on the front of them .... Can't miss the ugly black box
@alexbakker6601
@alexbakker6601 5 лет назад
Just had a 04 Drz Foh-hunnit out dirt biking in the Southern California desert. Hit everything from hill climbs to technical rocky single track to open desert 5th gear stuff and had a blast. It sat for a year before I took it out this weekend. All I had to do was pull that carb and clean it out and she ran ok with a little adjustment. All in all a decent bike, kept up with my buddies on real dirt bikes (yz250f and a Honda 450r), doesn’t do decent in whoops tho. Not good stock suspension for that. Bottoms out pretty easy, and hard to negotiate with in the slower stuff because of the weight. It also feels like the front end sits high up, but doesn’t seem to be a big deal when riding, just when putting a foot down (I’m ~5’10”)
@FragFreak0
@FragFreak0 6 лет назад
LOVE my DRZ. I change oil every 800-1K miles. 16k miles on the bike, valves still in spec. Another popular mod (If you don't want to shell out the cash for a FCR39 carb) is the CVK40 carb from a klr650. I bought the carb and rebuilt/jetted it for around $150.
@donlopez3185
@donlopez3185 4 года назад
My 2005 has over 26k miles, oil every 2.5k, never checked valves, new stator 2 years ago. Maintenance free machine!
@chicosuave2966
@chicosuave2966 7 лет назад
France has the new CRF 450 Sm..that thing is bad ass. But we cant get here in the States. I wish Honda would make it available for us b/c I would buy one for sure.
@HeroRR
@HeroRR 7 лет назад
+chico suave it makes no sense why they wouldn't. Our emissions standards are much more relax than Europe. Sigh... I guess Honda believes the market isn't big enough for it here. I wish Americans would see the value in Sumos!
@E2Moto
@E2Moto 7 лет назад
HEROrr Sadly yeah. We Americans only know that there are only cruisers, and sportbikes. However, naked bikes have been becoming steadily popular for the past year or two.
@aubreybertrand3755
@aubreybertrand3755 5 лет назад
Jesus even Canada has the new crf step up your game merica
@motomtbingg9588
@motomtbingg9588 5 лет назад
And America says we are the best😔
@anonymousranter2583
@anonymousranter2583 4 года назад
@@motomtbingg9588 Yah, why don't yall just move up north with us. We got some pretty chill laws, like we don't have any exhaust decibel laws here (At least in MB) so long as you don't ride and make noise past 19:30.
@norincobrocapri46
@norincobrocapri46 4 года назад
I bought my DRZ400SMK5 new and have owned it coming up 15 years now. It's the perfect bike ! Putting 2nd hand E Cams in only, is the best mod you can do for virtually no money. It's only this year that I have fitted an FCR40, 434cc, E header, RMZ450 muffler, open airbox and 2 x E exhaust cams, (yes that IS correct !) 16:38 gears. The thing is an animal ! 👍 It must be close to 60hp, as I can out-drag an XR650R... and they have 61hp ???
@FabricatorFactory
@FabricatorFactory 5 лет назад
I got a 95 Dr350 and still love it.
@Northern_Frost
@Northern_Frost 7 лет назад
I'm new to the DRZ world (bought a 2016 in April - just over 2800 KM's on it with some farkle and an extended 4 year warranty still in place) but not new to dual sport/adventure. Last bike was the KLR650 but am really enjoying the lighter and "much less expensive to operate" DRZ-SM. As well much more nimble off-road - it's an absolute blast on the paved twisty's too. Both the KLR and DRZ could use many of the upgrades you mention especially the lighter material, EFI and improved electronic display. Still I think the DRZ is the go-to bike for running dual-sport, but an upgraded 400/450 if released and as reliable as the current model would fly off the shelf.
@jcoats5529
@jcoats5529 5 лет назад
WR250R is NOT discontinued. Best bike in its class by far.
@greylyons816
@greylyons816 4 года назад
J Coats no supermoto 🙁 and you would be surprised how expensive it is to turn it into a supermoto
@jcoats5529
@jcoats5529 4 года назад
@@greylyons816 oh I have no doubt it would be very expensive
@knives01ng
@knives01ng 4 года назад
The DRZ400E came with electric START.
@fastdude2002
@fastdude2002 3 года назад
Early models had kick starter?
@daredevilike378
@daredevilike378 7 лет назад
Agreed I owned a DRZ400sm and all of this is true. With $2,000 of aftermarket support it was a beast though.
@DominicanOps
@DominicanOps 7 лет назад
I would LOVE to own a supermoto! Great video! I would never get a DRZ only because it's too expensive for what it is at the end of the day and it's not fuel injected. As for "people have been asking for it", its hard to say they have because if that was the case SOMEONE in Japan would make one. I know I have been asking for one but generally speaking most aren't (which is an absolute shame, I have learned its more fun to ride these bikes on the street than it is to ride my 600RR). Anyways, keep up the great content!
@bmp72
@bmp72 6 лет назад
KTM 390 SMC or Husqvarna 401 Supermoto based on duke 390 motor would also be ok :-)
@dj.sauerkraut9022
@dj.sauerkraut9022 6 лет назад
why would you go for a 401 when you can have a 501 ? :D
@xGxPhantomZzz
@xGxPhantomZzz 6 лет назад
Cheaper, less weight, less fuel consumption, better economy
@wheelieschulz1204
@wheelieschulz1204 6 лет назад
bmp72 Yes i think it would sell like casy
@paulambry
@paulambry 6 лет назад
Each point you make is correct. But your conclusion is wrong. The DRZ is perfect as is. Why? Because you can't kill it. I don't want an alloy frame - I want the unbreakable chrome-moly frame. I don't want fuel injection - I want the easy to tweak and fix carby. I don't want extra gadgets like a fuel gauge (though I concede a tacho would be nice) - that's just more stuff to go wrong. My SM is perfect - for the commute, for a Sunday fang and even off road. Don't change a thing thanks Suzuki.
@tirmikj5
@tirmikj5 6 лет назад
i agree.)
@iFigo8
@iFigo8 6 лет назад
lol just have the old one, while they make a new model which includes all the things he listed in the video ... you keep what you like, others buy the new one if they like it more. everybody wins
@awright27
@awright27 5 лет назад
By doing nothing they are resigning the 400 to a continued slow death and the moment a competitor introduces a bikes in this range with the upgrades listed in the video. The DRZ is done, sales will slow down to the point Suzuki pulls the plug. FI is way more reliable these days and aluminum frames are well proven.
@awright27
@awright27 5 лет назад
Bunnyshooter 223 If a well engineered aluminum frame is strong enough for Supercross bikes landing 100ft jumps they are plenty strong enough for dual sports.
@hotvidblack
@hotvidblack 5 лет назад
What about the Honda cfr 450l
@bradleycooper9129
@bradleycooper9129 4 года назад
Yessssssss! What we are all thinking!!! You hit all the markers right on point! Great video! Please please Japan, deliver!! 🤞🤘✌️
@bradl45
@bradl45 3 года назад
We have the drz400 replacement 2019 + Honda crf450x (wish it was lighter, can't wait to see longevity #s) OH My!!!! older 690s and 701s make great SMs too This time of year, DRZ400Es are selling for $2k in my neck of the woods(SLC, UT)
@buch6577
@buch6577 7 лет назад
100% agree with everything you mentioned. I feel like the market for supermotos is here so I don't understand why they wont just start producing a bike we all actually want. I know If they started selling a bike with fuel injection, aluminum frame, and more up to date technology I would definitely buy one.
@MrKidkiller159
@MrKidkiller159 Год назад
Price would double. Leave us alone. Go buy a ktm fool
@MrKidkiller159
@MrKidkiller159 Год назад
Wr250 sucks, girl bike
@MrKidkiller159
@MrKidkiller159 Год назад
I bought mine. 3200$$ 1000$ into it . Cherry perfect reliable. Carb is the way better. Efi is not a hp gain. Frame is same weight in aluminum or steel.
@elbacanreal
@elbacanreal 5 лет назад
Keep it the same, drop the price a grand, im sold.
@DaddySizeIt
@DaddySizeIt 4 года назад
best comment
@blacksheep6821
@blacksheep6821 7 лет назад
Awesome video. You're SPOT ON!
@barrymacocknher3720
@barrymacocknher3720 6 лет назад
Nice TopGear feel, quality content.
@Sprice93USAF
@Sprice93USAF 4 года назад
Honda made it, the CRF450L
@edwinkarani5593
@edwinkarani5593 4 года назад
CRF can't beat Suzuki, maintenance and reliabity.
@cazgerald9471
@cazgerald9471 4 года назад
CRF450L service intervals: 600 miles for oil changes and 1,800 miles for a valve check
@bradl45
@bradl45 4 года назад
450x, the new drz for the next 20 years maybe
@mblake0420
@mblake0420 7 лет назад
"Extra tech never hurts" George Orwell never said. Fk tech
@dirtbikeplug
@dirtbikeplug 4 года назад
Don't forget the E base gasket which adds a full compression point & with all the mods like the FCR and pipe it will really wake it up. The steel frame is nice for keeping the vibrations down and the best in the biz for performance are still using steel with the 230lb fe501. We have one with 30 miles on it lets see how it holds up!
@NotALizardPerson81
@NotALizardPerson81 4 года назад
But I like how aluminum gets bent out of shape so easily. With steel I have a pesky frame that just lasts forever. Who wants that?
@AwkwardStarfish7
@AwkwardStarfish7 4 года назад
Looking to get one of these as my first motorcycle... A lot of good points to consider here. I was looking at Yamaha XT250s but wanted more power. It's lame there isn't anything dualsport 400cc around aside from the Suzuki (just because I'd like to have more options.)
@Relinquish8t
@Relinquish8t 7 лет назад
Really sick of ktm having the reputation of being "unreliable" I honestly dont know where this came from, the old RFS engines are gone as of 2008 all the valvetrain issues have been gone for almost 10 years now. I have owned 3 ktm's and haven't looked back ever since.
@HeroRR
@HeroRR 7 лет назад
+Relinquish8t it's not that they are unreliable as much as they have shorter and more expensive maintenance intervals.
@Relinquish8t
@Relinquish8t 7 лет назад
HEROrr that I can agree with, to me it's worth every penny tho.
@tkcota5869
@tkcota5869 6 лет назад
Yeah dont know where they get all that nonsense at...
@anywordiveverread
@anywordiveverread 4 года назад
@Bunnyshooter 223 good to know ,,, thanks
@jonnyontwowheels4312
@jonnyontwowheels4312 7 лет назад
Ktm still uses steel frames and they produce the lightest dirtbiker on the market...
@toyotafj4579
@toyotafj4579 4 года назад
jonnyontwowheels yes, as ktm has perfected their designs on bikes so an old 90’s ktm 300 is still going to as light as an 2018 model as ktm always kept shedding weight and keeping them reliable in the sand dunes of south australia as the only other bikes to get through the dunes without screaming their heads off in pain are the old clapped out 2 strokes
@Henry-ok6cd
@Henry-ok6cd 6 лет назад
As always, a great video
@T21-TwentyOneTrailers.
@T21-TwentyOneTrailers. 5 лет назад
Nice...you are right, thanks for sharing your opinion and good continuation.
@keanedavis6151
@keanedavis6151 6 лет назад
Hello, ever heard of the 2019 CRF450L Honda's answering the call.
@kungfuzing966
@kungfuzing966 4 года назад
Yes, and pricing in Australia means you can buy a CBR600 for less. $15990, plus onroads from the dealership. The CRF makes a KTM look like a midrange priced bike. I could buy a new Ducati for less!!!!!
@Raythe
@Raythe 4 года назад
The price of the CRF450L is a joke. Its a KTM wearing a pretty red dress.
@dj.sauerkraut9022
@dj.sauerkraut9022 4 года назад
yea... turned out to be a pretty bad bike
@stunt_niklas452
@stunt_niklas452 4 года назад
It doesnt come as a supermoto though
@cazgerald9471
@cazgerald9471 4 года назад
CRF450L service intervals: 600 miles for oil changes and 1,800 miles for a valve check
@ThankUYoutubeForChangingMyName
I have driven a DRZ and I own a 690 SMC-R (2016) and I can tell the DRZ is _nothing_ compared to the 690. We once had a race with my 690, which was restricted to 30 kilowatts (otherwise it was stock), against a DRZ that had a 480 kit and double carbon fiber yoshimura exhaust system (2:36 that's same system), and long story short the DRZ lost. I was really amazed of the result, but I can't deny the facts. Also if you're thinking that it was all the drz riders fault, I can tell it was not. We changed bikes couple of times and results were still the same, the drz came in second every time no matter how brilliant the rider was. And about the reliability, there's over 12 000 kilometers in the clock of my 690, and the only big maintenance that has needed to be done to the bike has been the 10 000 kilometers service. So it actually is *_a super reliable_* supermoto and still a really fun bike :) ps. Please don't be a dick and delete my comment just because this proves you're wrong, it took me some time to write this and I want people to know the truth.
@KiL1withSkiL1
@KiL1withSkiL1 6 лет назад
but you have to say the drz got 39 hp and a open smcr 69 hp so a drag race is completly bullshit you have to go around some corners then the drz is probaly going to win
@BobbyBadFinger
@BobbyBadFinger 6 лет назад
you seriously think the drz is going to out corner the 690??? That is entirely up to rider skill level, but with equal riders no the drz will continue to lose. it doesnt have near the power or torque the ktm does to come out of the corners swinging.
@a.whiteman4182
@a.whiteman4182 6 лет назад
the 690 weighs no more than the DRZ, so...no.
@ThankUYoutubeForChangingMyName
Len polistina Well it kinda does, at least for me, and I'm talking about the acceleration, not the top speed. I would take that unreliable shitty KTM 500 any day, If I had to pick between a Yamaha WR125 and KTM 500 EXC, I would loose my f****ng mind if I had to go back to a 125 4-stroke. 0-100 km/h > 15-18 seconds :DDD That's just pure cancer. (Don't get me wrong I don't have anything against 125 riders!! I have owned one, but I would never want a new one)
@TheCharillz23
@TheCharillz23 6 лет назад
HMMMMM 690ccs vs 480ccs no chance
@clarkpitts5393
@clarkpitts5393 3 года назад
I want one.. Mostly for dirt road rides to work.. Nice Video. Take Care,
@MxMax-iu9dt
@MxMax-iu9dt 6 лет назад
Great video short and gives a lot of information. Left a like
@Jakalwarrior
@Jakalwarrior 7 лет назад
Just buy the KTM. Its pretty darn reliable. Occasionally they destroy rocker arms but they're not expensive or hard to replace. Maintenance intervals the same as the DRZ.
@MRBIGCOHONEZ
@MRBIGCOHONEZ 6 лет назад
Jakalwarrior same maintenance as the DRZ, really? You're smoking crack.
@Jakalwarrior
@Jakalwarrior 6 лет назад
Conker for some reason i thought the DRZ had 6k valve checks. Anyhow, the DRZ goes a lil more than twice as long as the KTM between valve checks. Meanwhile the KTM goes about twice as long on oil. Technically valve checks are dirt cheap and good oil is expensive... :P , but valve checks are more of a PITB.
@sdqsdq6274
@sdqsdq6274 6 лет назад
ktm are a high compression bikes , lol how can it be same as drz
@MRBIGCOHONEZ
@MRBIGCOHONEZ 6 лет назад
Jakalwarrior You know sometimes is best to keep your mouth shut if you dont know what you're talking about. The KTM oil change interval is in hours. The DRZ is 3500 miles between oil changes. If you don't know what you're talking about at least do some research first. Other wise you look like a dumbass.
@janm7611
@janm7611 6 лет назад
Why is the SMCR and the Husky unreliable in Europe almost everyone rides it without any problems they are expensive tho haha
@Nightdare
@Nightdare 4 года назад
Everyone rides them because they can afford the maintenance , not because of reliability
@johanwirf6501
@johanwirf6501 4 года назад
first vavle check on a 701/690 is at what 10000KM or 6000 miles? and useally they dont need to touch it that early thats just a check.
@socalmoto714
@socalmoto714 7 лет назад
Really good points that are all extremely valid and relevant. Thanks for the honest vid. I love my Suzuki but it's time they revamped it no matter how many people think enduros are a dying breed. They're a dying breed because no ones making a new model that everyone wants
@a.whiteman4182
@a.whiteman4182 7 лет назад
In my town they are a flourishing breed. Depends where you live.
@liberty5565
@liberty5565 6 лет назад
I would say, be happy that they still make the SM model and grab a used one. I just passed on a 2016 for $6200 because the same dealer had a 2015 for $5500, but it got snatched up before I could call. I do agree with you, would be nice if they would upgrade it, but as long as they keep selling out and they have zero competition there isn't a need to.
@dylaneagleton3090
@dylaneagleton3090 5 лет назад
Lol I got my road legal 50hp stock Suzuki rmx250 2 stroke
@thevideogamer0mg99
@thevideogamer0mg99 4 года назад
not bad not bad
@RideOrangeKTM
@RideOrangeKTM 6 лет назад
People taking trash of the 690 never own one and never rode one. I never knew what was an effortless wheelie until i rode one of these. Harley boys can't understand how powerful that single cylinder is. Not taking anything from the 400's but they are slow and unresponsive to me.
@motomtbingg9588
@motomtbingg9588 5 лет назад
But most people dont want to do valve checks every 2 weeks or change the oil every 5 hours
@smoothedblock8553
@smoothedblock8553 4 года назад
Very true. I used to ride sport bikes and switched to off-road. Now I want a dual sport. The selection is quite limited on good options.
@Dan-hm1dx
@Dan-hm1dx 5 лет назад
I own a '08 DRZ400SM, and you are right, an extra gear would be great, a fuel gauge would be helpful too instead of using the trip all the time.
@stupidmoto
@stupidmoto 6 лет назад
not ONCE did you bring up EPA regulations which is the number one reason why they have not updated theses ROAD LEGAL bikes, or why any manufacturer AT ALL has came out with a fast, light weight 450 supermoto. Its not the manufactures fault, its the US government, I hate the DRZ for the same reasons you do, but I still own one, and its also why I bought a 2017 RMX450Z, which is a aluminum frame, EFI 450, that in my state, can make street legal whit ease
@Steve69419
@Steve69419 6 лет назад
Husky makes a 450 supermoto my dude
@bigredactionsportsstuff1245
@bigredactionsportsstuff1245 6 лет назад
Why does this law apply to only supermoto/dualsport? Seems like street bikes should be held to the same standard.
@maughmoto8874
@maughmoto8874 6 лет назад
And now we have the crf 450l
@YocoWheelin
@YocoWheelin 6 лет назад
THANK YOU! I use to own a '13 DRZSM and I loved it. But I sold it for pretty much all of these reasons. If they gave it 50 more cc's, a 6th gear, and an updated gauge cluster. (Fuel gauge and Tach) I'd buy another one. I would prefer EFI and a aluminum frame, but those are as big to me. Sold it in 2015 with 7500miles for $5k and bought an FZ-07. I love my FZ, but still can't smash the twisties like my SM could. :/ maybe someday they'll hear us. Anyway, nice video.
@sirlaowery
@sirlaowery 7 лет назад
I think you should get one anyways! Hopefully you could find a deal. I got lucky my brother sold me his for $1000, although i spent almost 2k rebuliding the motor and trans. Now i have a fresh DRZ for $3k and I love it. Loved your video, keep posting!
@CanzZz
@CanzZz 6 лет назад
i think the dr650 is better because more torque, heavier and if you put a big bore on it with around 800cc you have the biggest single cyclinder i know so far and so much power... why beeing heavier is a pro? because most people who buy a dr want to travel and on highway weight and engine capacity are what counts to ride with comfort
@HeroRR
@HeroRR 6 лет назад
Boring out an engine reduces reliability, especially when it's a big bore like you suggested. Not sure why a person looking for touring needs would want to ever sacrifice reliability.
@CanzZz
@CanzZz 6 лет назад
+HeroRR yeah i know but if you buy one from procycle for example it should work perfectly... so many people have done that i actually bought 2 DRs and one of them im gonna build up with big bore and all the power parts as supermoto and if it works fine i will do a big bore on the other dr too which i use for traveling
@zakathzakath6184
@zakathzakath6184 6 лет назад
HeroRR Dr 650 bigbore kit 800.It is the same bike like dr800 no problemo.Check Adventure oz he is beating dr all the time and show how to tune it best way.
@kyoakland
@kyoakland 5 лет назад
i agree I got a dr650 Supermoto and sold my DRZ400 Supermoto and ask for a commuter and just pure fun the dr650 Supermoto is where it's at
@Frhhbbjjj
@Frhhbbjjj 7 лет назад
U forgot about the wr450
@KgiMedia601
@KgiMedia601 7 лет назад
elias S not sumo or street legal from the factory. He was talking about from the factory
@aaronjeffries7172
@aaronjeffries7172 6 лет назад
elias S valve adjustment intervals are atrocious aren't they?
@TheIJoystick
@TheIJoystick 6 лет назад
elias S opening the valve cover and mmeasuring your valves every season bothers you?
@sun6v546
@sun6v546 3 года назад
Well said n Projected.... Good job, Mate.
@ranchhandrandy3213
@ranchhandrandy3213 5 лет назад
I still prefer carb but I don't hate you for your difference of opinion. Everything else is spot on in your intro is spot on 😁
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