my sim racing journey has gone like this: g29, t300, TGT, csw v2.5, DD1, simucube 2 pro... csl dd pro 8nm. i spent so much money buying gear for the wrong reasons, i wanted the best because i thought it would feel better and make me a better driver but the sacrifice i made in doing so was not being able to play the games i wanted to play, was all well and good having a simucube 2 pro but i always knew the day would come when a game like GT7 drops and i wont be using the simucube 2 pro and id have to pretend i didn't want to play GT7 anyway because i was a ''real sim racer'' truth was, i did want to play it and i didn't give two shits about being a hardcore sim racer so i sold the simucube and ordered a csl dd pro, im happier now knowing im racing for the right reasons, because i actually am playing the game i want to play and not pretending i never wanted to anyway. what a crazy hobby though. thing is, now i have to go to bed and ask myself did i mean what i just said or do i wish i had kept the simucube really.
I'm on the same journey. G29, t300, then T3PA pedals, then Ferrari rim, then sparco 33cm rally rim. Then on Friday was TGT2 servo base and T-LCM pedals. I'm sure I'm done now. The TGT is plenty smooth and strong, the transducer is awesome for interpreting under and oversteer and the loadcell pedals are awesome.
I borrowed a G29 from a friend and bought a Playseat challenge. I really enjoy it with GT7. Would you say it is worth getting the GT DD Pro? Is it that much better if I mainly play GT7?
@@Alex-HD the G29 honestly feels like a toy compared to something like the thrusmaster T300 with a good rim like the Ferrari alcantara or sparco. The jump to DD will be insanely impressive. But it's quite a commitment, because soon you'll want the 8nm power system, then some decent loadcell pedals, shifter, hand break. And then also a bigger wheel rim. All depends on how seriously you're going to take the hobby. I have the TGT2 wheelbase with a big sparco wheel, it's amazing, even compared with the t300. I'll definitely upgrade to a thrusmaster DD base when it's available, and keep all my accessories.
This torque issue is something marketing shoves in our minds... a mkt war... we have now bases with 25nm of torque. A REAL CAR usually have a max torque in it's wheels of 7nm. Some cars have more, up to 12nm. 8nm is perfect. It's like a real car. Also, people fell happy with stuff like G29 and similar (much cheaper, ok), some of these entry wheels are well below 1nm of torque, like 0.3nm. And most people fells it like very good torque. 5 is a LOT.
None of us need stupid levels of torque but it is nice to have some spare so that you don't get clipping when racing. Low power wheels always end up ditching force feedback data due to clipping.
Thank you for a detailed look into the GT DD Pro wheel base, accessories, price points, set up and compatability. I feel a lot of wheel racing RU-vidrs seem to forget these nuances and just make racing videos.
Ended up ordering one in part due to your video. Coming from a T300 and a T150 before that with TLCM pedals. After an evening with it I'm surprised its as big of a jump as it is from the T300. Across the board from build quality to the feedback you get from Gran Turismo 7. Nice surprise is how absolutely quiet it is. The biggest surprise for me? I actually love the pedals. I've got the load cell coming next month but could easily survive without it. These pedals are far better than the cheap stuff you get from Thrustmaster (maybe the TGT pedals are better but my buddy with the TGT is dieing to take my TLCMs off my hands which were a huge upgrade over my other Thrustmaster pedals that I could now easily live without with the CSL pedals sans the load cell kit). I'll note for anyone looking at this I went straight for the 8nm boost kit. I can't speak to anything about the 5nm, I just went all in though I did lose the $20 discount ordering the load cell separately so everything else would ship immediately. If you're thinking about it and can afford it do it, you won't regret it but probably go for the boost kit out the gate, that seems to be the consensus from just about everyone.
699.99 is not a low cost wheel! Why is it $300 more than the non PS edition? Is it only because of the actual wheel? Then have a bundle that comes with a more basic wheel.
This was a great video. Showing so many different closeups actually gives us a good idea of what the product looks like. Plus your style of editing is entertaining
I had the CSL 2.5 wheel base which was a bit more expensive (whole package with shipping to Canada cost about $1400+ with duties) and had the load cell and CSL pedals, rally wheel, and clamp. It eventually hurt my weak ass wrists with too much use because it was so much damn fun playing Dirt Rally 2.0 (still the best rally game) and a bunch of other games. Gran turismo was ok.. but felt very Arcady compared to a lot of other games. Try rally 2.0 if you haven’t.
7:20 "T-Nuts can also be inserted on the bottom or side of wheelbase" ... proceeds to show how not to mount t-nuts. sorry dude some people just get triggered (yes i think i have ocd). still good video thank you. the thing is ordered.
8:03 really? Yes, a strong force is needed if you insert it this way. shove it in straight and you won't have to use much force and you wont damage it overtime...
Just wondering: you are used to high level DD wheels. so to you the differnece in force is very noticeable and will leave you wanting vor more very very quick. For me however, using a T300 it feels like I will have a longer period that it will satisfy me, so to me it really makes sense to start with this base and slowly upgrade, especially because of budget reasons. In the end I will have spend maybe a little more, but the investment is spread out over a longer period of time, so it is not a big hit on my day to day spending.
I use the T300 also. Is good for now, but am considering to buy a Direct Drive. Just because you don't have the belt and DD is more accurate. Also you can put in corrections faster when you're about to apin.
I just got my DD Pro coming from a T300 and its a huge upgrade. I went straight for the 8nm boost kit. Would definitely recommend it but if you couldn't afford it I could easily see you still finding the 5nm probably a big upgrade. Personally I'm finding the 8nm to be really strong even on just a 2 sensitivity in GT7. Its kind of hard for me to wrap my head around there being wheels that are 2-3x stronger. I would still suggest going straight for the boost kit out the gate but if you can't you can't and you're still going to find this a big upgrade over the T300. Evening having TLCM pedals, which was my one hang-up going this route since the load cell kit can't ship until next month, I'm surprised by how good the regular pedals feel.
I appreciate this video a lot! Just ordered a newly offered standalone version of the base which is automatically bundled with the 8nm powerpack. Im happy to be hyped for it haha!
I had my standalone DD Pro (8Nm), CSL Pedals LC and CSL WRC rim delivered a few days ago. Wow. It's in a different league to my T300 setup. I ignored the base GT bundle as it lacked the LC pedal, lacked the 8Nm power, and also I don't think that much of the official GT rim. I didn't like the Thrustmaster GTS version either.
@@gladtidings3 It's better - much better. Smoother and much quieter. It just feels more immersive and can maintain 100% FFB all of the time unlike the T300 which always ends up in reduced power modes due to overheating. The speed of a DD wheelbase in comparison to something like the T300 makes also it easier to catch slides etc meaning you get to keep it on the track more of the time. Does it make you faster? No.
You provided just enough criticism to make this review seem vaguely plausible. So as a reviewer you'll gain more free stuff from Fanatec. From Fanatec's perspective it was well worth sending you a free sample because your conclusion not only validates their product, but then suggests a user spend a few hundred dollars more on their already VASTLY over priced products to be really happy. Way to go Fanatec!
im seriuosly considering getting this wheel now, i was considering a t300rs but i think this vid has made my decision nowm this wheel will be the one i will be going for
Awesome! Feel free to use my affiliate links (linked in video description) if you do end up making the purchase. At no extra cost to you it gives me a small cut which helps me keep making these videos :)
I don't know it it's the DD Pro or the FFB coding in GT7 but it's not worth it at all. You get more control and feeling from the gamepad than from the wheel.
Tomorrow is my birthday. I always watch your product reviews to gauge what I should buy and get good quality information. I was going to just pull the trigger on this but my girl literally just had me open the T300 RS GT. I’m very happy
I am trying to find a direct-drive bundle that is for both PS4 and PC and I can't find a cheaper than this. I am seriously thinking about T300 even if it is not direct-drive :(
Ok so here is my question.... on this review I pretty much saw 90% Asseto Corsa and not GT7.... I read on another review that Asseto Corsa on PS has very subpar feedback on this particular wheel (not an issue on Xbox supposedly) so I'm a little bit hesitant on trusting the feedback part given I THINK he's making this review based on AC and not GT7... any thoughts?
Quite tempted to finally pull the trigger and buy one. Have had a T300RS for years… was scared with how many people claim theirs had broke but mines soldiered on. Amazing quality video!
So, upgrade, upgrade.......... think you may have just sold me on the logitech G pro wheel. Was hoping this would sway me to the GT DD. This shit is stressfull...... haha, want it for PS5 (and PC of course)
Fanatec has so many logistical problems and customer service problems that i will never ever order from those crooks again. Fix it or good bye. In fact, i went Logitec DD Pro, and I will never ever look back. What a dream.
Good information, but one little detail was not mentionned - end price. More specificly, the UPS service costs to get any FANATEC products delivered to you, because they don't sell in shops. If the kit cost is 500, the buyer will have to spend another 3 to 5 hundred to get it delivered, in questionable condition as UPS are known to be a bad item courrier yet very expencive. FANATEC will remain out of reach for all potential buyers in the future as well.
This is the reason I won’t buy Fanatec at the moment, I can buy Thrustmaster anywhere and know what I am paying with next day delivery. Fanatec is direct from the factory with hundreds in unknown charges and taxes after purchase with unknown delivery times.
@@S41t4r4 it just isn't very consumer friendly. The buying experience is awkward, not really about the final figure, it would just be much more enticing if I could buy it, know exactly what I am paying and know when I will receive it. Paying for something when I have no idea when I will receive it, it proving a sticking point. That's why I haven't purchased yet.
Hello amazing video great review 👍 I would like to ask you please I live in the UK how much was the total price£? And how long did you have to wait from the time that you clicked to buy to delivery to the house 🏘️ I have an Xbox Sirius x and a PlayStation 5 as well watch would you recommend thank you 😊 I subscribed to your wonderful channel and smashed that like
I ordered the €700 kit on the 8th March to the UK and it is supposedly arriving tomorrow morning by UPS. So far the base kit has cost £505 and I'm expecting to pay VAT (20%) and import fees (2.5%) so I've worked out this will be roughly £620 delivered.
Good overview. I like the DD Pro hub and even the pedals but finding the wheel too small, crushes my thumbs and the rubber coating is already showing signs of wear after only a couple of weeks. If you buy I'd suggest you need to budget for a replacement wheel at some point.
I’m just going to say this now, if you’re coming from a g29 or something similar, you will NOT Be disappointed. At this price point you will not want more. I mean of course we all want more ;) but it is seriously such a good wheel! I’ve been using it for about 2 months now and I can say I’m very pleased with the 5 nm that comes out of the box!
I'm not a simracer, but I'm looking at a second hand set in the future. I have bus/truck sim setup complete with dashboard and have been using a heavily modified G27 for it. It works, but I have to help it autocalibrate because there's a truck wheel on it which the G27 can't move quickly enough all on it's own. I got it for free so I definitely can't complain about that, but I got it solely because a colleague asked me to check it out because it suffered center-drift in games (encoder disc was fractured in like 10 places and slipped as a result, I was surprised it was still on the motor axle actually). It turned out to have more than just a broken encoder disc and suffered a massive crack in the gear and steering axle housing, along with a broken encoder sensor PCB that had 2 cracks running through some traces. The broken encoder disc and it's sensor PCB were both solved with some DIY'ing, but the crack in the housing has not been. Because of the heavy truck wheel that is on the G27 (separated from a direct connection by having it rest on an old bicycle headset) it is big, very heavy and difficult to calibrate because of the angle the G27 sits at (Made some DIY brackets that angled the wheel upwards on the piece of wood it sits on so the connection is as straight as possible. Recently I noticed that with every time the truck wheel hits the endstop during autocalibration (I modified the rotational range, it is capable of about 2290 degrees of rotation lock to lock) the crack in the gear and axle case widens for a short moment due to the stresses on it which made me decide to look for a good second hand offer. So for me it's definitely not about setting new records, it's mostly all about solving some very physical, real-world problems with my current setup :P . I am interested to see though how it holds up with the truck wheel.
Thank you for a great review. Based on this (and a few others) I bought this bundle and I agree with everything you said. Coming from a Logitech G923, this bundle costs about twice as much but it is exponentially better. In other words, 100% worth the extra cost if want more realism, functionality and performance. And I also agree that the added loadcell and power supply are worth the expense and will be added by many purchasers. Including them makes this package more than triple the Logitech which would have been off-putting for me as I didn’t know what I was missing. If you’ve never drive a DD rig it might seem excessive. Once you have experienced DD you will understand the added value. Just my 2 cents. Thanks for your thoughtful reviews and keep up the great channel!
Bought the GT DD PRO with 8nm power supply and load cell pedal kit. Have had nothing but problems. It has never worked out of the box. The wheel isn't seen in the software, the quick release is flimsy, support has a stated 7 day reply time. In talking with support, its back and forth about drivers, make and model of your computer, what happens when you do this? Finally they sent out a new plastic QR adapter (cant send the metal one, but you can buy it) and now the base sees the wheel, but the wheel continuously disconnects. No improvement really. I would think long and hard about Fanatec, their quality control, their lack of meaningful support. Yes its a direct drive wheel base, but if it doesn't work? I've asked for a full RMA at this point. I'm done beating my head against a wall.
Can someone please help me out here? If I were to purchase the GT DD Pro base, with a different wheel, say the BMW GT2 or Formula for example. How do I go about changing all the settings for FFB etc? This one has the clear screen with all the dedicated knobs and buttons, I was wondering if it was any different on their other wheels. Thanks!
I am strictly a PlayStation player when it comes to racing Sims. Do I have to hook this wheel up to a PC to download updates for it or is it just plug-in play for the PlayStation console?
Great quality video, but an honest review that's sponsored you by supplying the equipment free of charge? no such thing. this is an advert pure and simple. it's made me want one though. this marketing sucks
Low cost entry level... also 700$, then again you see some full rigs go for 20k ddo I guess it's all relative lol. Also I think it look nice, the internet complains about any and everything 😂
Is there something wrong with my DD pro , oscillation even on straightaways, losing control of car for no reason (on controller would never happen) and firmware and settings are all updated.
p.s you say Logitech pedals are mainly plastic but in fact they are quality metal pedals set onto a steel plate with just a plastic cover on top .The pedal plates are really well made and ground aluminum where it counts the plastic is saved for where it doesn't matter .Fanatec are still good pedals but very noisy tho.
I got one in 8nm with the load cell kit day one, but that just because I wanted a clutch pedal. I went from floppy thrustmaster pedals to the load cell. Oddly enough, that was way more of a game changer than the awesome wheel.
I’m hoping you can help. I just got mine in and it’s the same as you reviewed. I feel it load up going into turn and as I apply gas it starts to shake it almost feels like cars tires are hopping
I prefer to save my money buy a real DD and stay on my csl elite why I do so it’s more than adequate for now I know how to set mine up for the best FFB experience
I just bought the 5nm dd pro today and looking forward to it upgrading from T150. Only using for gt7 on ps4 do I need to update firmware or can you just plug in and play. Also how long did it take to come in mail? Hope you answer love your videos bro keep up great work.
So, can console players not hook the dd up to a pc and adjust the settings on fanalab and then have it save to the dd? Or does it just go back to default settings once you unplug it?
Thinking about buying this package but my main concern is the brake. Since i dont have a sim rig the pedals have to be on the floor, will i to apply 100% brake pressure since you cant adjust the resistance like on my current g29. Thanks for any help
So to be 100% if I get this base with the nascar rim and the Xbox button set it’ll work on Xbox and pc correct? I’m sorry i want to be sure before I spend all this money on it lol
If you’re using this wheelbase with an Xbox-compatible wheel, then yes, you can use it on PC, PlayStation and Xbox. Feel free to use my affiliate links (found in the video description) when checking out if you want to support my channel at no extra cost to you =)
@@OCRacing same here, I bought the csl dd and the clubsport v3 cause the dd pro package is not as convincing with the plastic wheel and way weaker pedals. Is there no option to use the csl dd with a ps5?
@@Gelangweilter Nope. It lacks the certification chip from Sony. Not a firmware issue... BUT - you can adapt it with a specific piece of hardware - google is your friend.
I'm thinking of getting the 700€ bundle when they become available once again. At the moment they are sold out. I've only had the T300rs and it broke down after 5 times of using it. No power anymore so I had it refunded. After doing some research I found out they have a lot of problems :/ It seems these Fanatec products are pretty reliable :)
