Ancient Trash or Gamer's Dream Display? Let's talk CRTs

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Today, CRT Monitors and TVs might seem like ancient artifacts of another millennia, but some people (myself included) still cling to them. Why would someone want to use such boxy, heavy beasts as computer monitors? What benefits do they have to offer?
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@EposVox 5 лет назад

I was quoted in a VICE article on the subject! www.vice.com/en_us/article/kz4gqm/why-this-20-year-old-crt-monitor-is-better-than-a-4k-lcd? Some have expressed unhappiness with the current offerings of CRT communities in my video, and I get why. I've made a channel for it in my discord server! I'm as welcoming as I can be! (which might not say much) eposvox.com/discord

@EposVox 5 лет назад

I live in a small apartment with an extra room which my wife suggested be dedicated to my collection. I'm nothing close to rich. But hey, congrats on handling your own insecurities by being negative and toxic about other people's passions! That'll get you far in life!

@Addition2 5 лет назад

EposVox A quick question, aside from response time and input lag, how does a CRT monitor compare to a VA LCD monitor?

@fuzzywzhe 5 лет назад

A CRT is an electron accelerator, they don't actually have pixels, they are extremely inefficient, they are blurry. You're making the same sort of argument that "audiophiles" make with the supposed superiority of vinyl records over CDs. I used to work for RCA. Audiophiles don't know what they are talking about when they discuss audio quality, and you don't know what you're talking about when you are claiming a CRT is underappreciated compared to it's completely digital counterparts.

@rudder3084 5 лет назад

yeAH i DO NOT REMEMBER THE BRAND OR NAME OF THE MONITOR i HAD BUT IT WAS HUGE, FLAT SCREEN, CRYSTAL CLEAR, GREAT COLOURS AND VERY HIGH REFRESH RATE... oops capslock, Anyway I still miss that monitor to this day and its a shame it blew with a big time BANG!, I am currently Running a 1440P IPS widescreen display "Asus VX24A" , sharpest flat panel I have ever had and I would dare say would give a lot of the high end CRT monitors a run for there money when it comes to colour reproduction... the damn thing best do since its full sRGB compliant.

@scotshabalam2432 5 лет назад

Tech was shittier but more interesting in the 90s. If you go to a tech show now it's mostly smartphone cases and phone gadgets. In the 90s there were robots, lasers, cyborgs, airships, hoverboards, holograms, x-ray vision, AI, CRT, and VR except none of it worked well or at all sometimes but it was exciting!

@geraldundone 5 лет назад

I miss the static electricity that would make my arm hair stick to the screen and make that fun Pop Rocks sound.

@IronRAVENxvx 5 лет назад

I flashed back for a few seconds to my old Win 95 PC when I was four...

@moomah5929 5 лет назад

You might mix up CRT TVs with Monitors. No static with my Monitor and I don't remember my old CRT Monitors (at least the one I was using from 2001 to 2009) being staticy.

@aemerox5773 5 лет назад

Don't forget about the little high pitch rig.

@dmcemmet 5 лет назад

@@moomah5929 I think newer ones did not build so much static electricity as older ones. I remember having CRT monitor from around 1996 and it built a bit of static electricity, enough to have some fun with it. Newer ones I had did not do that though.

@moomah5929 5 лет назад

@@dmcemmet You could be right, it's been a long time since that time and can't really remember the feel of my old old monitors. This Philips 107E seems to be from around 2000, at least it's the earliest information I could find about it. We also had a Monitor for the C64 (a Commodore 1084 I believe) in the early 90's, where I can't remember it being staticy but then again it had a removable glass panel (tinted/filter?) in front of the actual screen, if I remember correctly.

@Jazztifier 4 года назад

I know you're trying to find an FW900. My tips would be messaging senior photo editors and graphic designers. They used FW900 back in the days and might have them laying around (unlikely but hey, worth a shot) Try to find an old forum post where they discuss about it and message the ones who are still active and posting. Happy hunting 🤠

@FamilyGuyBob 5 лет назад

Crts are a must for retro gaming. Found a widescreen crt outside my building with a free sign on it. The permanent back injury was totally worth getting it inside since wii games look amazing on it.

@camerahistory 2 года назад

Not difficult to repair these. Only need a little bit of electrotechnical understanding and the fitting tubes. But be careful. You have to open the back and then put it on WITHOUT TOUCHING SOMETHING INSIDE and then take a look at the multiple tubes inside during the start/warmup of your Monitor. If there is a tube that is not glowing up, it likely needs to be replaced. Just plug it off the wall and dont touch the electron-shooter without grounding it and then change the old, not working tube... in the most cases thats it. If thats not the problem, take a look at the circuit diagram and find out in which area your Problem mostly seems to be. Repair Shops are no magicians as well... But dont forget to be careful.

@vladg5216 4 года назад

I love how you're eating pizza that's clearly too hot, lol!

@nrasb 5 лет назад

I used the combo xbox360+nokia crt untill the crt died. Man, it was the best combo. Press F to that CRT. Great vid.

@lastpally 5 лет назад

Nuno Brandao F

@SSC3034 5 лет назад

@presario4255 5 лет назад

@torpedo996 4 года назад

Some will call me a mad lad. I want a CRT because I want old tech(I have a 90s keyboard, a ball mouse and I'm trying to build a sleeper PC). Most CRTs are older than me.

@aretard7995 4 года назад

me too

@wowzer4919 5 лет назад

Question is, if I use a CRT TV that has a component input (Get HDMI to Component) will everything apply to the tv outside of refresh rate?

@YTGuy2006 4 месяца назад

0:53 what's that song?

@michadybczak4862 5 лет назад

There is an issue when playing older games designed for CRT monitors. For example Vampire Masquerade: Redemption. On the beginning, we need to explore mines but on new screens, with maximum brightness (in the game and in system) everything is pitch black and we are moving blindly... I hardly finished that area. Other places are also too dark to play comfortably so CRT would come handy... I remember it playing on the CRT in the past and it was fine. I even had CRT stored till a few years ago but threw it to trash... It was too bulky and taking too much space to store it indefinitely. Who could have thought that this could be useful?

@PaulSebastianM 5 лет назад

A documentary in RU-vid bedroom vlog format. Should have had a damn TLDR in the 1st minute of it!

@EposVox 5 лет назад

I did. I said I loved CRTs and they were better. That's it.

@CALIGS 5 лет назад

Woah... what a trip, I'm passively re-watching GT on my CRT TV while watching this video, as you mentioned flat screen CRTs being sought after I began to consider how my Dragon Boxes would benefit from an upgrade to one of those and looked back to see you had it GT on. I about went outta body looool.

@CALIGS 5 лет назад

Also thanks for reminding me about that Budokai 3 Limited Edition. I wanted that as a kid, I'll Ebay one today!

@tyren818 5 лет назад

man this is just depressing to see this tech die. Its so impressive.

@DavidZappi Год назад

Chicken!

@Warp3326 10 месяцев назад

?@@DavidZappi

@harutechultrasound9461 5 лет назад

It's a shame that you can't find any repair store that will deal with CRTs. I live in Chile and I'm literally the last person left in my city that works on and repairs CRTs if the person's willing to pay for the spare parts to get it back up and running. I even solder back the VGA cables, it's not that hard really.

@pulledtrigger 5 лет назад

i salute you for keeping up with your job

@dangerx69 5 лет назад

Come to my country i need you

@alexiv5249 5 лет назад

Qué ciudad? Da tus datos, todavía uso CRT, en una de esas necesito tu taller algun día.

@JinwooYoon1217 5 лет назад

Very SteinsGate of you

@harutechultrasound9461 5 лет назад

@@alexiv5249 Vivo en Curicó. Si necesitas contactarme por cualquier motivo, puedes enviarme un mensaje privado.

@Jackpkmn 5 лет назад

My grandma said it was insane to hold onto my old Dell P990 19" CRT capable of 180hz at 640x480 but who's crazy now grandma? Oh it's me...

@1_ElFox 5 лет назад

Pandaren Warrior 180hz!?!? That’s fucking awesome!!

@valentinsteam 5 лет назад

A lot of radiation in your eyes? fking awesome!!

@ManOfAttitudeLP1998 5 лет назад

Valentin Rivas They don‘t have that high radiation

@valentinsteam 5 лет назад

@@ManOfAttitudeLP1998 then why did they have anti-radiaton filters ?

@NiceYoutuber 5 лет назад

Valentin Rivas not as much as your phone

@OVERKILL_PINBALL 4 года назад

Finally, someone that actually "gets it" when it comes to monitors. The ONLY reason I switched from CRT to LCD was because of widescreen support... If they made a widescreen CRT today, I couldn't give them my money fast enough!

@tristan6509 4 года назад

they did make widescreen CRT monitors, infact i think SGI made a 1080p 16:9 CRT monitor

@tonivoul1971 3 года назад

My liver take it or leave it

@electrominded8372 2 года назад

I have one, not a monitor but a Panasonic CRT TV. If you can call it widescreen but it's close.

@Warp3326 10 месяцев назад

widescreen crt's exist. also widescreen isnt that big of a deal

@joelpichette 8 месяцев назад

Something is different in the way a CRT displays the picture, the pixels are drawn one at a time, it keeps the brain busy with new information instead of "downloading" a picture 60 or 120 times per second. You can't see the picture being displayed but the brain knows... OLED won't give you that feeling.

@Perfidion 5 лет назад

I just miss the scaling. You could switch to any resolution you liked, provided it was supported, and the CRT was like, "Yeah, not a problem. I can do that." I love my giant LCD display, but I do wish it could scale down from native without looking like someone's smeared Vaseline all over the screen. I still play a bunch of older games on a CRT, because it just looks better.

@capp00 5 лет назад

I no longer have any of my old CRT monitors, but definitely have plenty of experience with them. Worked at Best Buy before flat screens even came out, so I have a LOT of experience hoisting them heavy bastards up a ladder too lol

@kosycat1 5 лет назад

hahah yeah exatly

@kosycat1 5 лет назад

its just like tube amps opposed to solid state....except tube amps really do kick but i will haul those all day

@zodiacfml 5 лет назад

They are great vs. LCDs until recently with better technologies (OLEDs are unquestionable and the extinct Plasma based TVs) My first LCD in 2007 with CCFL has decent color vs CRT but poor contrast. It still works and using it for the kids, only with some water like stains on the screen on some angles. Single LED color (blue) based LCD's appeared and they are highly convenient, low power, low heat, lighter, and slimmer but image quality is almost trash. I know as I have a cheap laptop with that display. These days though, I don't think CRT still has a place except for the nostalgia and getting it for free. Most new LCDs today now have decent contrast (IPS, AHVA, HDR, etc) and color (quantum, nanocell), higher refresh.

@capp00 5 лет назад

Been friends with Adam for a good long while. Did a collab or two with him on the Tech channel too. :)

@XPLOSIVization 5 лет назад

Damn up a ladder, and i thought i had it bad moving them from a truck to the store

@BasiltheBatlord377 5 лет назад

I came into this video as a skeptic, and you converted me to CRT fan. I was quite surprised to learn how advanced this old technology was in the early 2000s. What a great, informative video!

@MetalGamer666 5 лет назад

Digital Foundry recently covered CRTs with modern games. And they have that holy grail you talked about!

@EposVox 5 лет назад

I KNOW I'M SO JEALOUS

@MetalGamer666 5 лет назад

@@EposVox They hinted about making another video about CRTs. I'm really intrigued!

@maryjaygomes4441 4 года назад

Honestly they are so good they make modern monitors look like scams. I wish crt TVs had the same thing too!

@f.m.f962 5 лет назад

I actually asked my school's principal if I could have 5 of the supposedly junked CRTs, 2 fully functional IBM keyboards, and 2 IBM PC cases. (which I did get)

@TheOutsider69 5 лет назад

Don't put a sign that says "Free" on it, no one will take it. You have to put like "$10" if you want someone to take it because they'll just steal it. If you say "free", no one will want it. Trust me, I've gotten rid of enough stuff to know lol.

@Choom2077 5 лет назад

lol good tip! but... kinda sad too. :/

@TheOutsider69 5 лет назад

@@Choom2077 Yeah it's unfortunate but that's how it works lol, and I live in a pretty nice neighborhood too haha.

@JimmiHoevring 5 лет назад

You sir, are brilliant, I'd never thought of this if you hadn't mentioned it... Cheers!

@AtlasUrbex 5 лет назад

I picked up some free stuff because it was labeled as such. I am pretty awkward when it comes to social contact in real life. This way I can pick up stuff without feeling too bad about it while also avoiding personal blunders :)

@GMODIST 5 лет назад

Ahahahaha, would never work in sweden, but I get it should work in amurica XD

@Kodeb8 4 года назад

90s anime on a CRT monitor = peak comfy

@davestout844 3 года назад

This person gets it.

@HalkerVeil 5 лет назад

GTX 980 Ti with a CRT. Once you truly see 240 fps there is no going back. *Edit:* (120hz x 2 interlaced, from Stereo CRT monitors for old shutter glasses.) I also enjoy the extra radiation while playing Fallout.

@wormbagged 5 лет назад

What monitor?

@cprogrck 5 лет назад

That would be so awesome! Unfortunately, I got banned from Fallout 76 for fixing the fps bug where you move like fucking Flash Gordon over 60fps. Let me take a sip of this shitty rum while I tell you all about it... I'm blind! Rock gut no name booze in a plastic un-pourable shrourd of disappointment... I digress radiation sucks and is no laughing matter. Did you know that my last MRI gave me googly eyes? screw Bethesda! I only had that stroke after they ruined the good name of the last good game franchise. Dark humour about the end of the world and an immoral "all American" corporation. How do you fuck that up. Like really? :-/

@photonboy999 5 лет назад

Uh... you imply you have a 240Hz CRT? I'm not aware that those existed or exist. If you just mean 240FPS on a CRT of lower refresh rate then I don't know what your point could possibly be. I get the sarcasm about Fallout though.

@jaxativejax662 5 лет назад

I've never heard of a CRT monitor capable of 240hz, what brand is this mythical beast...more to the point what game are you playing that can give you 240fps on a 980ti,,,Quake 3? You must get sick and tired of swapping out fusion cells on that monitor...

@Justin.Franks 5 лет назад

@@jaxativejax662 _"You must get sick and tired of swapping out fusion cells on that monitor..."_ He's a regular over at Tosche Station.

@ControlAllDa1337 5 лет назад

People forget the best thing about owning a CRT monitor, pressing the degauss button.

@trueKENTUCKY 5 лет назад

Wave of nostalgia

@PSS521 5 лет назад

but if you pressed it too much, you'd get brain damage

@lysol7204 5 лет назад

Someone make small program that will mimic the degauss please!

@ControlAllDa1337 5 лет назад

@@lysol7204 wtf dude I was literally thinking of this 5 min ago!

@jaxativejax662 5 лет назад

The *best* part of owning a CRT was the absolute certainty that the wind will never slam a door shut that has a CRT stopping it, they're also great at making sure that your ocean liner won't float away.

@TripleMoonPanda 4 года назад

Great video, I just recently picked up a nice Viewsonic CRT and I gotta say I've fallen in love with it and I'm starting to get a little obsessed. It's sad how rare even mediocre pc crt monitors are getting. It's like everyone has gotten rid of them and most of them are probably sitting in recycling centers just gathering dust. To bad they don't make them anymore I'm fearing the day mine breaks down and can't be repaired, speaking of which I guess I should start learning how to fix these things so I can keep one as long as possible.

@RyukikuriORI 2 года назад

I picked up a nice ViewSonic Optiquest Q71 recently

@edm3184 5 лет назад

miss the crt days until I remember I held my 27" 4K monitor in one hand while I screwed in the vesa mounting screws with the other to the dual adjustable monitor arms :p

@Kalvinjj 5 лет назад

Here too, I love my 15 year old birthday present CRT TV, 21" with component input. I love it - as long as it keeps there and I don't need to move it from the stand. And that's still just 21 inches (true tho that it's a wall mount so it's a horrible hassle, less the weight and more the position you need to take to move it). Also when we gave away our 29" Panasonic CRT TV, that monster wasn't more than 32 kilos (sorry, ain't converting to pounds) but it was still a hassle to move. What I most miss from CRT TVs tho, was the built-in sound. No LCD I've seen, ever, came close to that 29" Panasonic one that could actually do bass down to the 60Hz or so. PC LCD monitors with speakers are also just there to say they're there. My old LCD monitor had speakers and I never dared even testing them. I bet my laptop would be better, not exaggerating.

@vanillaa679 5 лет назад

why do i have to use adblocker and instantly click forward 1:30 in every single video to actually watch a video.

@aaadj2744 5 лет назад

I remember when I have a gaming PC in 2005 with the CRT monitor and it was a memory

@desotaku5202 5 лет назад

switched years ago from a 40 kilo monster. i can tell ya, no lan party was held without a shopping cart to move that thing away from my place to my buddies

@desotaku5202 5 лет назад

what I miss most is degaussing my screen😂

@RinoaL 5 лет назад

Maybe i should open up a CRT repair shop... hrmm

@InfiniteClouds 5 лет назад

Wish I had one near me -- would pay for your services if they were good. Shipping costs, of course, make it impossible to do this beyond local business.

@KuroOldAccount 5 лет назад

yES

@ManOfAttitudeLP1998 5 лет назад

I would come buy if CRTs were still a thing I would have learned the job of a crt technician

@Term271 4 года назад

Rinoa's Auspicious Travails please

@xymaryai8283 3 года назад

yeah, if you can come up with some really good way to transport crts (maybe some kind of custom built reusable crate) then you might be able to buy, repair, then sell high end monitors, but finding tubes that run well enough to repair is hard. maybe if you get good enough you could salvage and jerry-rig components to make good custom monitors, there might even be some new technologies that make homemade CRTs possible, possibly without the intensive tube manufacturing

@MilkBreakMinecraft 4 года назад

Someone in my neightbourhood left their old CRT by the side of the road. I am now using it to watch this video.

@thomassvedin8701 5 лет назад

I love those Sony GDM FW900 monitors. I found 3 when i visited a CAD company a couple of years ago that they was going to throw away but they hadn't bothered carrying them out of the door. I took all 3 and my back was hurting for a week after. Still worth it :)

@EposVox 5 лет назад

WOW

@AFluffyMobius 5 лет назад

Man i miss my FW9010 so much. Kinda regret throwing it out when the flyback went kaput and wouldn't turn on. But moving it cross country was just too much hassle :/

@wormbagged 5 лет назад

@@AFluffyMobius are you sure it was even the flyback?

@AFluffyMobius 5 лет назад

@@wormbagged I can only assume at this point. Before complete failure, it would sometimes "blink" like crazy with the picture going in and out.

@licentioushowler3400 5 лет назад

I need some peanut butter with my jelly

@HedgehogStudios1 5 лет назад

*laughs from behind OLED display* yes I am aware tubes look better. Unfortunately tubes also weighs 60 lb, take up the entire desk, and make a stupid fucking whine. I fully acknowledge that they can provide a better picture but I also don't care because they were annoying to deal with.

@lastpally 5 лет назад

Laser Lens too bad Oled still can’t touch the motion clarity of a crt. All flat panels use a “sample and hold” technique for displaying each frame while a crt strobes the frame.

@lazertag720 5 лет назад

Laughs in super amoled

@randyortonsbulge 5 лет назад

Laughs from behinf cave painting

@lazertag720 5 лет назад

@@randyortonsbulge laughs from 20,000 BC cavemen fire graphics

@rtf54 5 лет назад

super amoled is one of the best examples of bad motion clarity

@thronritter6295 3 года назад

If you want a good adapter for DP to VGA I suggest the Delock 62967. It only costs 25€ compared to the hdfury and has enough bandwith for 96khz and 110khz monitors. I just wanted to suggest since 250€ is stupid expensive for an adapter, might aswell pickup a 980 at that point

@mikedrz 5 лет назад

Nope, don't miss my massive radiating desk weight. Was an early adopter of lcds.

@Randomizer92mx 5 лет назад

me too...I got an LCD with my first computer in 2006.

@mfbfreak 5 лет назад

They don't actually radiate... The thick layer of lead infused class blocks all radiation. Radiation only was a problem with the first series of color TV's when they got into a fault condition.

@shabazz18 5 лет назад

Didn't realize they radiated stupidity.

@Raivo_K 5 лет назад

Same here. I had experience on CRT's before i got my first computer in 2005 but all my monitors have been LCD since. I totally agreee tho that early LCD-s were pretty poor in terms of image. The main appeal was low power and low size. As time progressed however LCD's advanced. Today i see no reason to get CRT. Yeah it's true LCD has not gotten rid of the signal processing delay and non native resolution issues but in terms of refreshrate, color, contrast and resolution new LCD's are now superior to CRT's. Plus adaptive sync that get's rid of tearing in games is a godsend. This is my list of LCD's i've owned since 2005: 1280x1024 60Hz TN 1680x1050 60Hz TN 1920x1080 60Hz IPS 2560x1440 165Hz IPS with G-Sync.

@TheNikohSan 5 лет назад

@@shabazz18 He's stupid because he was turned off by one of the major problems of CRTs. Okay then, Einstein.

@shadowflash705 5 лет назад

The best part about CRTs isn't very low input lag but no image ghosting at all. If you'll play a game with high contrast fast moving objects most LCDs will give you blurry edges of those objects or some color "shadows" will be there. Which isn't the case for CRTs. No fixed resolution is the second best thing. 320x200 to 2048x1536 with image staying sharp - impossible for LCDs but any decent 21" CRT can do that.

@nestaash 5 лет назад

Well there is something to look forward to oled, recently joled showed of some gaming monitors and sony and panasonic are working together on some oled displays they are probably going to be expensive though.

@shadowflash705 5 лет назад

@@nestaash Main question about OLED monitors is how long will they last. I don't feel like spending 3k on something that will last for 3-4 years. Also i'm not sure if they are better at handling multiple resolutions.

@nestaash 5 лет назад

@@shadowflash705 well you are right about a lot of things they will probably be over $2000 when they release but they will get cheaper as time goes on, oleds are known to burn in but if they are making gaming monitors they will try to implement some functions to help with the problem and the user will have to vary the content they watch and nothing can handle resolutions that are non-native like a CRT can.The reason why i look forward to them is the infinite contrast ratio they have and most of all how well they handle motion i can tell you 60hz gaming on a oled although not as smooth as gaming on a 165hz LCD IPS monitor has less blur. oleds monitors will most likely produce the best overall image quality, who knows they can suck at release or be the best thing since CRT we will just have to wait and see.

@user-zu1ix3yq2w 5 лет назад

It's not just ghosting where CRTs are superior. They have superior motion clarity as well. LCDs use sample-and-hold technology. CRTs are completely different, and because of this they have WAY LESS motion blur. A 60hz LCD will keep a pixel displayed for a full 16.6 milliseconds. A CRT will display a pixel for about 1 milliseconds, thus substantially reducing motion blur. This is referred to as pixel persistence or just persistence; you will sometimes see monitors marketed with 1ms persistence (they use a gimmick to achieve this, it's not good like CRTs). Checkout a site called BlurBusters to read up on this phenomenon and why it happens.

@capNsgt 5 лет назад

The worst thing though is screen tearing if you have vsync disabled and I hate vsync latency. Nothing like g-sync/freesync

@brentboswell1294 4 года назад

I witnessed a CRT implosion in the office one day...as a prank, someone dumped metal shavings through the air holes of a monster CRT monitor. The person turned on their monitor, and PLUNK!

@oooppiikkk 5 лет назад

ray...tubes, ray tracing?

@DragonProtector 5 лет назад

^^^^^

@scarlett5924 5 лет назад

no beam racing as in many 80/90's games were racing the beam

@shmoaeelshmoaeel8319 5 лет назад

Oof

@SelectLOL 5 лет назад

Back then we had high framerate CRTs but not the PCs to run high frame rates and now we have PCs to run high framerates but not the right monitor.

@jaxativejax662 5 лет назад

I've got a 144hz 1440p LCD monitor but I've never in 30 years of computing seen a CRT that can push either of those specs, the bandwidth of VGA just didn't allow for it even if the tubes themselves could drive it, the VGA cable standard maxes out at 2048×1536px (QXGA) @85 Hz amd even thatrequires a really short, high quality cable. Funnily enough, when I bought my 144hz 1440p screen it only came with a VGA cable!

@SelectLOL 5 лет назад

@@jaxativejax662 Hahahhahah rip

@TenebrusI07 5 лет назад

@@jaxativejax662 Crazy! my asus came with a cable for every single connector it had available

@tankermottind 5 лет назад

We do, the question is, are you willing to pay for them? A lot of these CRTs are only "affordable" nowadays, and cost four figures new. The same with a good flat panel--if you want massive refresh rates, ultra-low latency, or OLED, that costs money. A lot of money.

@Bastacat 5 лет назад

Back then we didn't really give a shit, and for those who did - it still cost them a lot of money. Nowadays it's actually easier and cheaper, there are plenty of affordable 1080p monitors with 100+ mhz refresh rates. To think of it, considering the cash this bloke blows on his CRT monitors that let's face it, look ugly as all hell and usually have 4:3 aspect ratio, i don't really see any reason whatsoever to even consider using one, other than for some weird purist reasons.

@reviewyourownadventure2083 4 года назад

I do miss the old days of having a monitor that could do any resolution and refresh I wanted to throw at it. 75Hz was considered the bare mininum normal and now the basic normal is only 60Hz. I don't miss the weight and the square screen but so much else about the CRT was actually better. I absolutely noticed blur and lag when I switched to LCD all those years ago. No matter what kind of fancy flat screen I use now nothing ever seems to be as smooth as the CRT was. Its like we've spent years and years trying to engineer our way back to what CRTs could do and we're still not really there. Modern flat screens bring many benefits but still...

@reviewyourownadventure2083 4 года назад

Also, I didn't have to run my heater in the winter in my apartment. The Viewsonic kept the whole place nice and roasty.

@autech578 5 лет назад

My problem with CRTs is that they emit an extremely obnoxious high-pitched noise that makes it impossible for me to use them. It just gets too annoying and I can hear it so well that I can sometimes hear them from >30 metres away (eg when used in a museum). I always go like 'Oh, there is a CRT around' and everyone is like 'how did you know that?'.

@crt3275 5 лет назад

The horizontal scan rate of NTSC CRT TVs is about 15khz. This is what makes the sound. Meanwhile, all PC CRTs are 65-141khz, well above human hearing range.

@bobbybologna3029 5 лет назад

Oh yeah I remember that whine, both from CRT TVs and Monitors, most obnoxious things ever.

@bomberman4046 5 лет назад

Not every CRT emit that noise, anyway for me was real when they were running at 60hz. Not only the screen was too bright, but they would usually make that insane noise. Increasing the refreshrate to 75 or 85 was the "fix" to stop that noise instantly.

@BadAndUgly 5 лет назад

It's the high voltage transformer driven at line frequency emitting that noise. Usually TV's are run at ~15-16kHz and some are very loud.

@grabasandwich 5 лет назад

@@BadAndUgly I had a 2005 iMac that often made *the* most annoying high pitched noise. I read that they had bad flyback transformers. I don't miss that.

@1stfloorguy59 5 лет назад

Wow I'm watching a video from the future. The internet is truly powerful

@bagata 5 лет назад

Watching this on CRT :DDD

@ManOfAttitudeLP1998 5 лет назад

nice

@Tailslol 5 лет назад

had a old dell it was a amazing 1280X1024 120hz ofered free by a school. but sadly i had to stop using it it whitened and blured with age. i replaced it but always felt new monitors flat was so bad. took a decade to have a flat monitor as good as it was. but input lag still is a issue.

@n1ghtblur 5 лет назад

The issues you're describing are usually fixable by opening the case and adjusting the pots on the flyback transformer

@Tailslol 5 лет назад

@@n1ghtblur as i said it was more than a decade ago and it is way too late.

@krich106 5 лет назад

If someone made an affordable 16:9 CRT, I'd buy it.

@snooks5607 5 лет назад

are you also good for a small loan of 100 mil to setup a factory of dubious quality in cheap enough country and an R&D lab to re-engineer the various proprietary processes to achieve relatively sharp picture? :) they were really hard to produce, lots of manual labor

@mattking6718 4 года назад

I would too, the brightness of a new CRT still can't be matched with flat panel technology.

@Italian_Isaac_Clarke 3 года назад

Altho the image is nice I prefer the high refresh rate for proper gaming. Maybe for more scenic games it would be nice tho...

@coolelectronics1759 3 года назад

good luck with that. and good luck to your back after having to drag something that massive across the house. ;-)

@stealthysaucepan2016 3 года назад

Shut up and take my money!

@dreamreaver1218 5 лет назад

CRT monitors had the best colors and the deepest black you can imagine.

@listerdave1240 5 лет назад

Was very true but only until OLED came along.

@dreamreaver1218 5 лет назад

@@listerdave1240 Unfortunately we don't have OLED monitors for PC users yet. When we do, i agree.

@listerdave1240 5 лет назад

@@dreamreaver1218 Actually we do, there is at least one I know of by Dell. Besides, a 4K OLED TV does exactly what a monitor would. There no longer seems to be any difference between monitors and TVs nowadays except that TVs have tuners and a remote control while PC monitors don't. I am using a 4K Panasonic TV as my primary monitor for my PC.

@mohamadnasmeer6311 5 лет назад

@@listerdave1240 oled s are unreliable expensive peace of shites

@MildMisanthropeMaybeMassive 5 лет назад

Best colors and deepest black? They did not. You are looking through nostalgia glasses when you should look at specs. They only advantage they have is input latency.

@Republic3D 5 лет назад

I miss that satisfying click and sound of the Degauss function.

@photonboy999 5 лет назад

Ha.. me too. I use to press it just to hear that and see the screen go squiggly even when it didn't need to degauss.

@quackman 5 лет назад

I'm surprised my monitor never exploded doing that so much.

@BlindLibrary 5 лет назад

These monitors were tougher than people gave them credit for.

@JimGiant 5 лет назад

Me to, someone could make a fortune selling a degauss app which imitated the function.

@Vekstar 5 лет назад

Actually i do have that Widescreen sony CRT you are talking about at the 11:50 mark. Im using right now actually. And let me tell you watching this vid made me feel good. The story of how i got that monitor basically getting it for free, long story short, was doing a AC job for this old guy who makes wedding movies for a living. He figured that since i cared about this stuff (I was getting into the AV field at the time) he gave it to me for free. Sadly this one has some yellow tin on the bottom right, and the antistaic wrapping is coming apart. Need to get it repaird, but good luck finding someone who can do that in Hawaii. or the price to ship it.... oh gawd. But im just glad i found this video, cause really. Someone is defending these monitors, and to relish in these old dying tech. But yes, it is a god tier CRT, like i got 1440p with 90htz like dude. yeah once you have one, all other consumer ones seem shallow in comparision.

@trillrifaxegrindor4411 5 лет назад

better to quickly fire it into the garbage and rejoin 2018.

@LostBeetle 5 лет назад

I'm old enough to have grown up with CRTs. Yes, they had good refresh rates, response time, and resolutions. But they somehow still didn't manage to look as good to my eyes, I think it had something to do with looking through a thick layer of glass that also had a higher tendency to have a slight frosty glare, you could just tell the glass was there, hard to explain. With an LCD the text on a screen almost appears like there is no layer in front of it, almost like you could touch it, we're all used to it now but look at a CRT sometime and you might notice that layer of glass in front of everything. All I know is that as soon as I had my first LCD at 18 years old (19" 4:3 60hz 1280x960) I never looked back. Also, at the time I didn't even notice the refresh rate cap at all, it wasn't until I had it for a little while I learned that just because the fps might say 90 fps, I wasn't really seeing 90 fps. Another downside of CRTs is eye strain, I remember getting hooked on Diablo 2 back in the day, and back then playing for three or four hours straight without stopping was considered a lot, and in that amount of time your eyes would be in quite a lot of pain, this has never happened to me on an LCD. Then there is the desk space issue of course, many people were forced to sit them diagonally on their desks so they wouldn't be sitting too close to their screen, of course this can be fixed with a larger desk, but let's be realistic not everyone was able to for one reason or another, or just never got around to it. The one downside I immediately noticed on my first LCD was how it looked like garbage in non native resolutions. I was always used to adjusting my resolution on my CRT to get a good framerate on a game, it was the most important graphics option at the time, once I had an LCD I was forced to leave this option alone. That was the only real downside I remember being a big enough downside to notice.

@honkhonk8009 5 лет назад

Same here. I have no idea why but i remember playing miniclip on my friends monitor, it was a shitty monitor compared to mine

@TheEpicLinkFreeman 5 лет назад

i never felt at any point in time that any CRTs were better than any LCDs that I had tried for any purpose

@MsHojat 5 лет назад

Lost beetle to me it sounds as if you're talking about a scenario with a non-flat screen, and/or a bad light source causing glare. Also I've never had eye strain on a CRT, even when sometimes playing at 60 Hz (2048x 1536. Lower resolutions like 1600x1200 could go higher res), which is not a good refresh rate when the screen is low persistence (60 Hz on an LCD is fine because the pixels stay on and persist, it's not like they're flashing 60 times per second like a CRT is), but I suppose some people might be sensitive

@Senzeni 5 лет назад

You become sensitive to anything if you spend 8+ hours a day every day for 15+ years. Not to mention that you don't fix youself as fast when you're older.

@MrFeupinha 5 лет назад

i Just looked back and feel like playing some snes on an old TV. Lol

@richliew363 5 лет назад

CRT still the best display. My eyes get tired very fast when looking at LED display. Only CRT I can use long hours.

@BavarianM 5 лет назад

Usually the opposite

@dominikf.5100 5 лет назад

@@BavarianM Not at high refresh rate

@TheTca211 5 лет назад

Those things kill my eyes and ears. How can you stand crt

@dominikf.5100 5 лет назад

@@TheTca211 CRT Monitors don't cause Eye Strain cause of High Refresh Rate and either don't make these weird sounds cause of 31khz or higher

@TheTca211 5 лет назад

@@dominikf.5100 hhmmmmmmmmmmmm

@JohnVmc2 5 лет назад

I'm still playing my 360 on a VGA monitor using that cable.

@Che_ster 5 лет назад

Watching this video on CRT Samsung SyncMaster 795mb. It's good that it's black and silver so it didn't get yellow with time. Soldering a new cable is a bit tedious, but there is nothing extraordinary difficult about it - you just solder wires one by one and isolating them with sticky tape and shrink tubes. I repaired my monitor in 2014 after the cable worned out

@swisspeach67 5 лет назад

The difficult part is figuring out which cable stub goes to which pin on the new connector... not the soldering itself.

@Che_ster 5 лет назад

I just cut opened both original and new cables and compared their pinouts using multimeter. Here is what it looks like with some quick gibberish notes of mine: yadi.sk/d/1ZKsLPfVBi4afw Soldering was way more difficult than figuring out what goes where. That's a whole different story if you don't have original cable in place though.

@PixelShade 7 месяцев назад

Man! That last facebook group with the CRT flight simulator at 19:12 .... The CRTs alone drawing more than 1000W. xD I love CRTs though. I recently got a hold of a very simple Compaq V70... 1024x768@85Hz. 1280x1024@60Hz. But even if it is a simple consumer monitor the image is great. I use it for My Commodore Amiga 1200 (using GBS-C scaler for RGB Scart to VGA) Dreamcast 480p VGA as well as Emulation and Retro PC gaming with a GTX750Ti (Analogue output). I will upgrade it whenever I can find a new better CRT, but honestly, they are quite impossible to get hold of locally in Southern Sweden.

@chuntsechien 5 лет назад

ViewSonic CRT was very good

@edsiefker1301 5 лет назад

I used a 21" Trinitron until it died a couple years ago. What a beautiful picture! I'd love to find another one. Worth the power bill.

@dominikf.5100 5 лет назад

@Uranium 235 But TV ts suck Pc Monitors and PVM/BVM are the best among crts

@ninjabofe 3 года назад

I watching this video while dissembling my crt monitor

@Spacecookie- 5 лет назад

I had an old 22" monster until the mid 2000's, but it ate too much electricity, and no-one was prepared to repair it if it went wrong. Then I ended up with a video card installed without any VGA ports, so I had to update and get rid of the old monitor to recycling. I really miss 4:3 aspect ratio and the monster sized screen. Ah, the good ol' days.

@oguz8295 5 лет назад

i still have 4:3 sony lcd monitor

@BlatentlyFakeName 5 лет назад

A big drive towards LCD was power usage and space. Companies wanted lower electricity bills and more room on desks.

@jamessmithandgarrettsmith3623 2 года назад

If only CRTs were redesigned to minimize those issues.

@burzasardaukar 5 лет назад

CRT monitors had much better colours, deeper black and could support many resolutions without loosing sharpness. But usually they were really sharp up to certain resolution below their "native" or optimal resolution. For example, I had a 19" crt wich was advertised as/it claimed to be 1280x1024. It could take a 1280x1024 or a 1280x960 60hz resolution (or even more than 60hz, i don´t remember exactly but i think it was at least 75) without problem. It could even take a 1600x1200 signal fine (i don´t remember whether it could do that at 60hz, 52hz, 47hz). At lower resolutions it could take higher refresh rates, 75, 85, 100, 120, i don´t remember if it was capable ot 144hz. The lower the resolution, the higher the refresh rate available. But the point is, it could only display perfectly distinctively pixels ONLY up to 1024x768, may be 1152x864. If you fed it with a checkerboard patern of black and white pixels, you could only see those pixels up to 1024x768. At 1152x864 and up you started getting a grey mess instead of a checkerboard pattern. The rgb shadow mesh behind the glass (the one that allowed the 3 electron beams to hit the intended R, G or B phosfor dots on the screen in order to light them, had a certain fixed size, and the rgb dots itselves had a certain fixed dot size, that limited the max actual resolution, and that was commonly much less than the max/optimal resolution specified on the manual. And in my example, my 19" monitor was a pretty much better performing unit than the more commonly and widespread 17" ones. I don´t know if far more expensive models had much smaller dot size, but consumer products used to have that problem. You had 1280x1024 or 1600x1200 in a 19" monitor, but it really was like using nvidea´s DSR 1440p or 4k on a 1080p monitor. You could distinguish individual pixels only up to 1024x768, doubtly to 1152x864. For 17" monitors it was even worse, you could only distinguish individual pixels up to 800x600 i think. From 1024x768 and up, individual pixels started blending together. that´s not what I would call precisely sharp. If anybody has more experience on this matter, it would be nice to read their comments. Especially what was the higher resolution those crt monitors had at which individual pixels were still distinguissable from each other. (they could accept higher resolutions perfectly fine, but actually displaying them was a completely different story)

@natefranco3393 5 лет назад

Any recommendations besides the HDfury for using a crt with modern gpu? I have an rtx 2080 so I do have the newest (assuming newest) hdmi and displayport connectors. Right now I have an hdmi to vga like you show in the video but I am having an issue displaying ANY interlaced refresh rate (even at something bizarre like 800 x 600 @ 60Hz) and I'm assuming this is why.

@HyperActivePlayers 5 лет назад

I haven't tried it, but you shouldn't have to buy a $250 digital to analog converter. Just throw in a old video card with a vga connector and enable pass-through from your fast card to the vga card.

@DragonProtector 5 лет назад

wait those exist?

@johnrickard8512 5 лет назад

I personally have an HDMI to VGA and DisplayPort to VGA inline DACs. The HDMI one...isn't very good - tops out at 1600x1200@60hz. The DisplayPort adapter is another story - it seems more than capable of pushing up to 4k to the monitor, though interlacing seems to confuse it so I end up with 4k@40hz😆

@jaxativejax662 5 лет назад

Some people want more performance and OS and system compatibility than using an ancient AGP POS that would at best restrict you to Windows XP. A last gen card like a GTX 980 has a DVI port with the analog connectors so you only need a $5 adapter for that or you could use a an Intel CPU with 𝐈𝐍𝐓𝐄𝐋 𝐄𝐗𝐓𝐑𝐄𝐌𝐄 𝐆𝐑𝐀𝐏𝐇𝐈𝐂𝐒 and a motherboard with a VGA port as long as you don't plan on playing any decent games from the last 10 years.

@HyperActivePlayers 5 лет назад

@@jaxativejax662 you don't get it do you? By passing through to an older card with vga connector you keep the performance of the fast card. But yes a AGP card would probably be incompatible.

@BeatByBit 5 лет назад

How do you do that? Is this a Windows 10 feature?

@guser436 5 лет назад

I feel so bad. Last year I had to throw away a 200hz flatscreen CRT (I think) probably even was Sony. Just that I didn't know who would buy it and they so heavy to ship. Now I want it back. Any idea how much it would have been worth now?

@eggyrepublic 5 лет назад

Probably $300 if in good condition.

@duskmarksman3129 5 лет назад

I have found a sold eBay listing of a 17" Sony CPD-200SX monitor that went for $312 USD, no box or manuals.

@wormbagged 5 лет назад

That is definitely not a great example. Most people are not buying a low end monitor for that much.

@duskmarksman3129 5 лет назад

@@wormbagged well someone did purchase that monitor for 312 dollars. Make of that what you will.

@crt3275 5 лет назад

@@eggyrepublic 300 is unbelievably delusional. 150 at best (nearly perfect condition)

@Ecki_Meerschweinchen Год назад

Fr like back in the days, humans built gigantic heavy blocks of technology, just to get a small, low resolution, glimmering display, then they built some thick slices of power guzzlers to get an absolutely beautiful looking display, and now we made energy efficient, super thin high resolution TVs and notice, that our previous techniques had so many advantages! I'm glad that we have some CRTs and a plasma tv!

@doplere6364 3 года назад

I use to repair and calibrate CRT monitors from the 747 and 767 aircraft years ago...

@bmwolgas 5 лет назад

To this day I still use a CRT on my main computer. Been through TWO holy grail Sony 24" monitors since about 2005, but each died a very similar death and each only lasted me about 5 years. I'm now on a 21" Philips 202P flat screen model. Vertically it is virtually identical in height to the Sony, it is just not as wide. I run mine at 1152x864 @ 100 hz. Picture on this is at least as good as either of the Sony's I had and in the 4 years I've had it I haven't noticed any degradation whatsoever of the image quality. Also like the Sony, this has dual inputs including a RGBHV BNC connector which I have connected to a Micomsoft XRGB-3 (which has native VGA output via line-doubling mode) for my Sega Genesis (over JP-21) and my RGB-modded NES (also over JP-21). Picture quality is amazing on this setup for both of my game consoles.

@LordLab 5 лет назад

I am on OLED playing @ 120hz and I am not going back RIP CRT , used them from 1985 to 2005 I think .....

@wormbagged 5 лет назад

Your OLED tv still has poor motion resolution compared to a CRT, but 1080p@120hz is pretty nice on an OLED.

@LordLab 5 лет назад

@@wormbagged OLED pixel speed is 0.01ms ( response time ) this is 1000 faster than LCD also CRT won't give you a better numbers , too bad your Leobodnar tester not worked ( I have it too but not have CRT to try ) , CRT screen is very fast but can't say this about its image processing when you on high resolution, try to put a black paper with a hole on white test area in dark room , maybe sensor will see it. CES19 next week ! hope to see OLED 4K @ 120hz asap :) HAPPY NEW YEAR EVERYONE!

@LordLab 5 лет назад

@@NintendoDude888 trying to be a smart ass ? you own equipment to measure the input lag ? I do and I know exactly how much input lag each my monitor have, and looks like you have no idea what you talking about . regular CRTs have about 10ms input lag and OLED about 20ms high end gaming LCD monitor is about ~4ms input lag , for example www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/acer/predator-xb271hu#comparison_1426

@crt3275 5 лет назад

@@LordLab "OLED pixel speed is 0.01ms ( response time ) this is 1000 faster than LCD also CRT won't give you a better numbers" Does not matter. The screen needs to strobe or motion clarity will be garbage compared to CRT. Also no, CRTs do not have 10ms input lag. CRTs have maybe a few microseconds of input lag, that's why the Atari 2600 is able to synchronize it's rendering with the CRT at the pixel level, it races the electron gun. In any case, 10ms more lag than a CRT is still unacceptable, I can easily feel even 8.3ms lag (1 frame vsync on at 120hz).

@danwager781 5 лет назад

YES, GREEN HAM GAMING MADE IT IN THIS VIDEO

@ChrisD__ 5 лет назад

And we was playing the Wice - Star Fighter music video in the background for a bit!

@mikestewart9088 5 лет назад

I rewound it 3 times to make sure. Glad I wasn’t the only one. I hope he starts making videos again

@danwager781 5 лет назад

@@mikestewart9088 ikr, we never seem to know if he's alive

@mikestewart9088 5 лет назад

@@danwager781 he literally just released a new video 17 hrs ago lmao!

@danwager781 5 лет назад

@@mikestewart9088 wtf

@macdaniel6029 5 лет назад

I remember going to LAN partys with my 21" CRT in 2000 ^^ HEAVY! I still enjoy my 2 CRTs that I got recently.

@coolelectronics1759 3 года назад

people actually had to drag those things around?

@skullsoftheearth1366 5 лет назад

CRT monitors are the best for everything including photo treatment. The photos as you see on CRT monitors are exaclty the same on everything when you see it printed.

@adamcboyd 5 лет назад

Take it from an older PC kid. We don't say 1024 (spelled out). We say "ten twenty-four by seven sixty eight." Good video! Keep it up.

@EposVox 5 лет назад

I also grew up in that time and those around me said it both ways :P

@adamcboyd 5 лет назад

@@EposVox Alright. I see your 1024 and raise you a "En Ee Ess" and not "NES". (Also really liked your SDK video on the StreamDeck. I hope you do a tutorial series for it)

@daltonsleeper 5 лет назад

@@deus_ex_machina_ Never 1080p (ten-eighty pee) or 720p (seven-twenty pee)? Twice as fast, but not that accurate if you are not running 16:9 (or somewhat similar) aspect ratio...

@metatechnocrat 5 лет назад

All you young whipper snappers, In my day we had the specs "three twenty by two hundred and six forty by four eighty" memorized and we were glad for it by gum. Nowadays my 1080Ti won't even list a resolution below 800x600. No respect for the older resolutions I tell you. *shakes fist*

@smackerlacker8708 5 лет назад

We never called it the NES. It was just "The Nintendo".

@alfaalex101 5 лет назад

What I miss about CRT monitors were how they managed to soften every pixel and make them glow almost. If anyone has played any old DOS or SNES games on LCDs they'd know that everything looks super blocky. I've tried pixel shaders that attempt to mimick the nice glow from CRTs onto LCD but they just look pretty bad.

@todesziege 5 лет назад

This is one of the reasons I have trouble letting CRT's go. Pixels just look "dead" on an LCD...

@abyssstrider2547 5 лет назад

I still have a CTR monitor in my basement but a rat sprayed blood over it... Yeaaah. luckily it didn't pour inside though. Tbh I don't even want to know what the rats were doing in my basement on my CTR monitor.

@BlackieNuff 5 лет назад

I still use the same CRT monitor from my first (decent) computer from 2002. I liked it so much that when it got wrecked from a power failure (or whatever causes a horizontal "wrinkle" to form), I went out of my way to find another on eBay in 2010. Needless to say, I paid precious cos if its weight and size which made the shipping more expensive than the monitor itself. But so worth it. Still running it today.

@aivalentim5419 5 лет назад

Same here. Still using my CRT monitor. My older one got damaged, so a friend offered me this one, since he didn't use it and takes a lot of space to store it. Best decision ever :D Got a little brightness problem (can't go up a certain value) and crops a little of the upper right corner... But totally worth it :)

@NicksRfactorMods 5 лет назад

Melee anyone?

@spongechair 5 лет назад

yes

@miguelborges7913 5 лет назад

@eduardoavila646 5 лет назад

No only firearms

@DragonProtector 5 лет назад

better we can do it on my lg 27 uk650 monitor and it looks amazing

@roysrevengefgcstreamdumps1891 5 лет назад

@@eduardoavila646 right over your head....

@pierrekuchmann3944 5 лет назад

How human brain works: I see crt in the background on his video ME: Wow look at those nice deep colors. WAIT.🤔 Im looking at this trough my lcd monitor lel rip logic

@y-o-u-b 5 лет назад

it may sound counter-intuitive, but you CAN judge color characteristics of the crt despite its recorded with a camera and viewed on an lcd, its like an "analog intermediate". its the same principle like when you film a scene with an anlog film camera (16mm etc), digitalize it (telecine, scanner, digicam etc) and view it on an lcd, it still has the analogue "look", looks organic, beautiful colors etc. the analog film, or also the crt does something to the image, give it distinct characteristics, which can be recorded again and then still be noticeable. crt displays and anlogue(chemical) film have some aesthetic and technical similarities, thats why also a modern pc game looks so beautiful on a (good, well adjusted) crt

@theprophet2444 5 лет назад

The camera picks up the better quality anyway, so yes you aren't seeing the truth but you get a glimpse of it.

@___xyz___ 5 лет назад

Basically, no camera is perfect. Pictures taken by any camera will be saturated. Thus, even if you could see the true contents of a camera, they still would not reflect reality. However, since images sensors work differently from the human eye, and things like Moiré patterns and IR bleeding are unavoidably different, details that we are not able to see get picked up. The distortion of those details during processing may amplify subtle differences (e.g. computer screens) in the finished result, regardless of whether that result is viewed on a CRT or an LCD monitor. Since we aren't seeing the "real thing", we have to rely on comparing the things we _can_ see. Apart from the video being obviously processed the shit out of, what our eyes are able to pick up is approximately equal to the "real thing". Another example of this is comparing audio equipment. If the sound sensor (microphone) is even _reasonably_ good, one should be able to tell significant differences in the real equipment from a digital sample. The human brain is simply that proficient in picking out differences. Of course, there are situations where one might say that a sensor simply sucks too much to even be compared to a human sensory system, as is the case with old phone cameras and dynamic microphones. But most professional/high end equipment such as what's used in this video is certainly comparable.

@y-o-u-b 5 лет назад

@@___xyz___ i think you mean, we humans with our chemical + neuronal seeing LEARN the errors and distortions from typical digital cameras and lcd screens, and with this knowledge we unconciously GUESS quite well how the real thing must have looked. that seems correct. it does not depend very much on the quality of the camera, monitor, as long as we know this kind of equipment and what it usually does to reality.

@mattking6718 4 года назад

But then you have to scale the image for each resolution change and it's annoying.

@whydoihavetodothisannoying 5 лет назад

This is great, I remember how a buddy snatched up a 30 inch CRT they phased out at his workplace with some unheard of resolution back then, that freaking behemoth needed its own table but boy was it awe-inspiring, most monitors CRT or early flat panel back then were 15 inches. He sure enjoyed the heck out of Diablo 2 on that thing.

@rossuk123 5 лет назад

made me laugh when mates at school were so amazed when the first "HD" consoles came out when I had been play games like quake 2 at 1280 x 1024 at 80hz for years before on PC. It was at this point I became pc master race ;D

@IAm-zo1bo 5 лет назад

well console has it's own advantages

@BITCOIlN 5 лет назад

@@JPX64ChannelThe biggest advantage they have is that they are written in one specific way that makes them much easier to emulate on a PC, even Windows 7 games are becoming pain in the ass to run on Windows 10, with a console you just download the emulator, load the iso/rom and youre good to go.

@BITCOIlN 5 лет назад

@@JPX64Channel "good pc", I emulated GTA VCS, LCS 7 years ago no problem on my Phenom II x3 I didn't follow PS2 emulation since then but I guess the emulator regressed somehow over the years?

@lemons2300 4 года назад

Resolution isn't everything. But computer monitors certainly weren't limited by NTSC 480i like TVs did.

@CRT_lover 2 года назад

Watched this on a CRT monitor, looks great

@EposVox 5 лет назад

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@Matlockization 5 лет назад

What a quirky interesting video.

@StrongOaker 5 лет назад

20 minutes on this topic is too long, stopped at 6 min

@bobbybologna3029 5 лет назад

He doesn't actually get to the point either, just waxes poetic about old hardware.

@drag7703 3 года назад

Recently, my laptop LCD screen broke, and due to covid, I'm unable to fix the screen, rendering me without a monitor, until I found an old, 17 year old crt monitor, and I love it, playing games and shooters on it feels better, I love the crt monitor, and I'm not sure if I want to fix the screen now.

@drag7703 3 года назад

It's an LG studio works 500g if anyone is curious

5 лет назад

Watching this video on a CRT xD (Core i7 3930K, GTX970, 32GB RAM)

@VictorMarczak 3 года назад

TL;DW, all CRT's (especially the Trinitrons) are display treasure.

@Demetrius900000 5 лет назад

I was using a Samsung CRT till this year, decided to buy an IPS. It is better in only one regard - colors are brighter. CRT indeed had tons of resolutions (I used 1600x1200 85Hz), had MUCH deeper blacks, greys were seamlessly blending into one another (instead of a "ladder" of different shades), and it was sharper and had no visible "cubes"\pixels. Also I loved how when you turn the brightness lower CRT made the blacks and greys much darker, but left whites and bright spots as they were. IPS just tones down everything, and thus I can't get as realistic a picture as on CRT.

@jacekjagosz 5 лет назад

Remember that you can use your older GPU that has an analog output just as a display out. It works the same as in your laptop with 2 GPUs, you just set a "High performance GPU". Also this is how you can use Freesync with your Nvidia GPU, just output it through and AMD card or APU. Or soon maybe through Intel iGPU, they should bring the support.

@photonboy999 5 лет назад

I believe it's APU only, not via an AMD card.

@jacekjagosz 5 лет назад

@@photonboy999 Nope, it also works with an external card

@RFLCPTR 5 лет назад

Just Emulate the Game Consoles on the PC

@bobbybologna3029 5 лет назад

Yup and you can even turn on AA :OOOO lol

@cramsa 5 лет назад

Did he just say that "the early 2000s was a much cooler time for tech" than today??? Good luck for the average person to get a screen OVER 19".... My 19" CRT monitor was over 35+ LBS!!! And the larger CRTs could weigh as much as 75+LBS and took up massive desk space, and forget 4k resolutions. I was playing Counter Strike on a 19" CRT monitor back then, and my computer was considered "advanced" with 128MB ram and 750Mhz athalon with 32Mb video ram on a nvidea gforce... only very fortunate people even had access to broad band internet, most people still was using DIAL UP!!! And my "smartest" phone was a green screen flip phone that could NOT PLAY VIDEO OR MUSIC... and it cost me $400+ I defiantly disagree with that statment... next thing you will tell me next, is how Atari 2600 gaming was at a "cooler time" than today...

@Octamed 5 лет назад

You missed the best part. Viewing angles! They're perfect, with no colour or contrast banding and shifting. Also no blur. I've tried 144hz monitors and they're NO WHERE NEAR as smooth as a 100hz crt. The only monitor I've seen that I would consider is one with 'backlight strobing' to simulate the technical reason crts look so smooth. It was an Acer at 120hz and apart from much worse blacks/viewing angles, seemed very nice.

@Imgema 5 лет назад

He also didn't mention anything about motion resolution or how CRTs don't get blurry while the image is in motion.

@TheGrandWizardKing 5 лет назад

exactly! +1

@SemlerCrafter 5 лет назад

My flat screen monitor is fine, does everything a CRT can do but better, also, CRTs are way to big

@duffysullivan2794 5 лет назад

This really is an excellent review and introduction to the late, great CRT. I hung on to CRT tech for both my PC monitor and HDTV until just recently. I had both the Sony FW900 and the Viewsonic P225F 21 inch. But like EposVox says, once they give up the ghost there is no one to fix them. They are old displays with tons of hours on them. I recycled my PC monitors when they quit working, but still have my CRT HDTV, the Sony XBR910.

@mauricehinton5889 3 года назад

It's 2021 and I'm looking for an old CRT monitor to play my old WIN95/98/XP games.

@dr3w399 3 года назад

check ebay

@infinitecanadian 5 лет назад

Definitely treasure! CRTs are awesome!

@jihadao 5 лет назад

You've convinced me. Ok. I've worked in front of CRt monitors for some years when I was a kid but never knew a thing about refresh rates.

@xXFalloutFan77Xx 5 месяцев назад

Im impressed. It was so advanced for its time. I thought you couldnt play modern games on it but you proved me wrong.

@TheMorc 5 лет назад

CRTs were great

@herbstwerk 5 лет назад

The GDM-FW900 was/is a beast. I retired mine after 10+ years due to the brightness going down and the focus starting to pulse from time to time. But I can't bring myself to abandon it. :)

@my.playlists 5 лет назад

The dimmed tube can actually be revived, although the process can either kill it or restore it to it's previous glory. It involves electrocuting the cathode with a capacitor, look it up, there should be some info in english about that.

@pabloxd1239 5 лет назад

probably you need a recap, just change every electrolitic capacitor

@TesserLink 5 лет назад

ill stick with my 4k 60fps and 1080p 240hz monitors. both with 1ms latency.

@retroman3075 5 лет назад

I still use CRT Tvs for retro gaming. I have a 34" Sony Trinitron Wega XBR955 HD w/HDMI & widescreen for more modern games and an old Curtis Mathes 27" for older games. I also have an NEC multisync monitor and a Viewsonic like the one in your video. However the viewsonic no longer works as one of the VGA pins broke out somehow when I moved last. I also have an older trinitron monitor that has a brightness issue. When it and the viewsonic were working properly, they both had amazing picture quality, better than any of my other CRT monitors. Great video btw!

@S0liD4CE 5 лет назад

all the things in your room.. the nostalgic old games... old school runescape. Truly a man of culture. Subbed

@EposVox 5 лет назад

Haha thanks! :D

@mikafoxx2717 Год назад

Speaking of the inferiority of LCD for ages.. why not have a look at plasma tv's? they get up to 1080p or more commonly 1080x768, are flat, are self-emissive, glass sreens.. and they cost a fortune when new. I've seen Professional Plasma TV's for broadcast and they took as much power as asSpace heater - that thing could get bright for a plasma.

@lutyanoalves444 5 лет назад

People love to hate on things. Even if i particularly wouldn't use something, why would i hate on the guy or the video for something that OBVIOUSLY he likes?

@DJEasyGryphon 4 года назад

9:00 god I love gauntlet dark legacy. I found my Xbox just to play it

@rollyaponte2281 5 лет назад

I actually work at an electronics recycling facility so this is hilarious to see. Last year (2018) we recycled 35 million pounds of CRTs. I designed the demanufacturing line that dismantles them a few yeas back, and last year I designed the processing line that separates the clean (panel) glass from the leaded (funnel) glass. Check out dynamic lifecycle innovations (previously named dynamic recycling) on RU-vid, its pretty neat to see