Andre Iguodala & Evan Turner Go In On The 2017 Warriors vs. 1996 Bulls Debate 

They will never be another MJ,pipen,rodman,

The Pistons did a good job

Wayyyyyy more talent nowadays

​@@ImadogGarcia For a while, then they got swept and that was it.

​@cynkendricdonte1782 I don't really know what you mean by more talented. There are only 9 active players that are in the top 100 all-time leading scorers. Of the top 100 All-Time scorers 25 of played in or are from the Golden State Warriors or LeBron James era of basketball. The other 75 are from the Bulls era of basketball or older. This means that even with ALL the "more skilled" players you're claiming, they're still not putting a dent in the main or leading stat category. The only thing that has really changed is the shot selection and maybe the skill @ shooting that shot that is more preferred now which is the 3pt shot but that still has not created more prolific scorers. The last prolific scorers were Wilt Chamberlain and Michael Jordan. They are the only two top 10 all-time leading scorers that did not play 19 or 20 years in the NBA. Wilt played 14 years and Jordan played 15 years. They both also are the only 2 in the top 10 that played less than 1100 games all other players in the top 10 played 1200 or more games. The only active player that is threatening and probably will crack the top 10 in scoring in less than 1100 games is Kevin Durant. He sits at 13th all time right now with 986 games under his belt. That in and of itself shows that Durant is a, or rather, the prolific scorer of the Golden State Warriors and LeBron James era though he still will take more than 16 years to pass up Wilt and Jordan. The precedence I am trying to set is that with all this skill they got today it is taking them quite a lot of time to pass up the "plumbers" of yesterday since that's what they call them in this era AND they shoot the 3pt more and a lot better than the "plumbers." Really the only reason why most of them look like they're scoring more is they are just playing longer. Imagine if Wilt or Jordan played 19 or 20 years also. What kind of scoring conversation would we be having. Again I'm emphasizing the skill of scoring because that is what ultimately determines who wins the game. 1. LeBron James 2. Kevin Durant 3. James Harden 4. Russell Westbrook 5. Chris Paul 6. Stephen Curry 7. DeMar DeRozan 8. Damian Lillard 9. Rudy Gay These are the active 9 that are in the top 100 of scoring from greatest in points to the least. I suggest you look @ how many years they've been playing. Then possibly if you let go of your bias you'll realize that the players to today are not as great as they're making them out to be and to stop disrespecting the players sorry I mean "plumbers" of yesterday.💯🔥🔥🔥

Always. It's literally a mental game. Jordan's mentality was ALL and there was no such thing as nothing. Where as LeBron was ALL but nothing was still an option.

Exactly.

Rodman on green 6'7" v 6'7" Scottie on durant 6'9" v 6'11" Harper on klay 6'6" v 6'5" Jordan on steph 6'6" v 6'5" Man to man D. Bulls player can guard the gsw player.. the question is who guard MJ on offense. 90s rules or rules now no one can guard MJ..

Warriors were 16-1

​@@railroadjesus49- and yet, they didn't play the Bulls!

Exactly. KUKOC GETS A MASSIVE GLOW UP!!!!

Facts!!!

He would be something similar to Lamar Odom. Maybe better with these rules

Idk why it's so hard to understand that

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You caught that too ...obviously before me. He literally said "he held KD to 50" 😅😅😅

​@@joelopez59822 REPLIES

People tend to forget Rodman could shot the ball. Like he really could score. He did it in Detroit and from time to time did it on the Bulls.

The fact is rodman can score too😅

​@@ktpbd21974 REPLIES

Even better, double Mj and leave Kerr open for 3 all day haha. Kerr would drop 50

@@datravelinman He never had more than 23 in any game in the playoffs, and he only got to 23 in one season. The most he had in any playoff game with Chicago was 15, and reached that in only one post-season.

We appreciate that

​@@pointforward2 REPLIES

He didn't keep it real though. He picked the 2012 dream team over the 1992 dream team. 😂

@@Bob-te3leKobe, Lebron, and KD on the same team? Magic and Larry were at the end of their careers 😬 I might have to lean 2012 but wtf do I know that’s tough lol

Omg it would be a massacre! Bulls sweep or it goes 4-1

PIPPEN WAS BETTER THEN KUKUC

@@jwick1215 nah warriors sweeping shit

@@jaylonsadler5641 you must not have ever watched basketball with a comment like that, but I get your loyalty

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MJ struggles against quick guards so guarding Curry isn't going to work for him! Chris Jackson, Allen Iverson both would cooked MJ, Pip had to guard those players. NBA skills are to great, 2017 shooting more 3s while Bulls are shooting 2s. No chance!

@@mcdiesel7505 Who would Steph guard? Whether Jordan, Ron Harper, or Pippen he's getting cooked. All 3 of em would back Steph down and post him up over and over. All 3 would shoot over Steph easily. On offense Steph would get some shots but he'd be doing a lot of running around to get free while being guarded by bigger players. And on defense he'd be worn out.

@@roboninja3194 You obviously don't understand basketball, they could go zone. Steph is not guarding none of those guys. KD, Dray, 2 way Klay, Iggy will be the 4 guarding that 4. Curry is cooking Kerr buddy!

@@roboninja3194 Granted Steph can only be matched up against Harper. But to say he'd be worn out, you do not know Steph's workout regiment. It's legendary. He won't be worn out. And his moves off the ball would give any defender fits because they'd have to account for him even without the ball. I'm not saying the Warriors would win hands down. I'm saying any of these 2 teams could beat each other in 7 game finals. I'd give the slight edge to Jordan's Bulls cuz of Jordan alone. But they never had to guard the star power of Curry, KD and Thompson when it comes to their movement and their ability to shoot. And this Warriors defense is nothing to sneeze at either. They were # 2 overall in the Playoffs. Their 16-1 Playoff record is the best in NBA history. It would be a great series no doubt.

Klay is torching Harper lol

You're right I don't see anyone locking down Mike and that's where the difference lies for me

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Rodman is 6'6 and Pippen is 6'8.* The better argument is Rodman and Pippen are two of the top defensive forwards all-time who can lock up multiple positions and switch between Steph and KD. Jordan can guard Klay and Harper will guard Draymond. The Bulls had four superior defenders and a big body center in the middle with Longley/Wennington or they can go small ball for Kukoc and just run the break and be aggressive on offense.

yup i bellive that bulls win not only they are the grater team but also a better one starting five as well as the bench dont get me wrong gsw was amazing but those bulls match up pretty well with them if u want anyone to try to stop kd rodman and pippen are collectivly caould at very least slow kd down and make him have bad shooting nights they were that good and for steph u would have jordan and harper they would make it real tough for them on the other hand no one is guarding mj and rodman dominates the boards easy bcz there is no real big in the paint even if it was hes outrebounding him too

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@@dustfid Sounds good but the Warriors spread the floor by shooting so well, Igs is a great defender and has offensive as well, pic and roll the bulls to death! GSW could also play zone! GSW are going to shoot 20 plus 3s more than the Bulls so it's just going to be difficult for 2s from the Bulls to outrun 3s from GSW! 3 of the top 10 shooters of all time with the top 2 in Klay and Curry. Defense is different now, you can guard space and cheat which you couldn't do in the 90s. Pick and roll the center and power forwards to death and get wide open shots!! GSW all day!!

Hell, even Rodman could score if he wanted.

You don't want Steph on Ron Harper. Ron would be a problem.

@@jasonjamieson1690 Bulls don't need to play 1 on 1. They can switch from 1 to 5 with Buechler or Toni. GSW doesn't have players that penetrates.Their style of play evolves around pick and pop or roll. They'll just force them to play iso with kills teams momentum.

@Lovechie4life That's true, but that wasn't the point being made. We're talking about Ron Harper scoring, and Steph is not able to guard him.

@@jasonjamieson1690 Curry don't even have all team defense on his resume. Yes, Ron will eat on Curry's watch.

Yea clippers let him go.

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With Cavs

Everybody always underestimate Ron bro look it up he was the difference in a lot of games MJ didn't have a good game ever and Tony was no joke neither

Also

He can play point too. And he is 6"10 6"11 guy. Like bulls are dynasty. Their players are stars in their own positions. Like look at rodman, look at kerr.

To me, the only mistake of this conversation is the sentence "Kukoc would be a Gallinari of this time". No way. Kukoc was faaaaar waaaayyy better than Gallo. Kukoc was a winner on Europe, a winner with his national team and a winner in the NBA. Today, Kukoc would be scary monster of stats.

Borderline all star? 🤦‍♂️ Kukoc is a lot better half of all stars this past years.

Kukoc would be Doncic on coke without the flop

You do realize Kukoc is HOFer?? How do you think he got there??

Not to mention the 2018 Rockets almost beat Golden State

ALLFacts

Yes that bulls team could win games at over 100 points or one that was on the 90’s cause of there defense

@@christianmorgan5956the rockets better than the bulls what

Umm...what are you talking about. Kerr shot 51.5% from three in 96. His entire role on the Bulls was literally sniping from beyond the arc. And Kukoc was shooting it at 40.3% that year

Andre pick the 2012 Over the 1992 dream team! Why do I waste my time with this bs

Nah he’s not wrong at all, our squad tends to have problems with bucket-getters and no one was as great at that as Michael Jefferey Jordan. Plus we have trouble w/ physicality & athleticism (‘19 Raptors, ‘22 Grizzlies, etc.) and MJ/Pip/Harper/Rodman were some dogs, picking up full court and everything. Couple that w/ the triangle system, a generational bench piece in Kukoc and you have arguably the only team in NBA history I’ll willingly admit could beat that ‘17 Dubs team….

Jordan ain't not God... He's a regular person ...

@@chezzlito 22 grizzly we beat and 19 raptors we was hurt and almost forced a game 7 and kuckoc not making no difference

@@brianzhou171 ain’t not talk 😂☠️

They were not that big of a team and we double mj who gonna score

​@@jaylonsadler5641The double teams won't stop Jordan. Jordan never wasted time with the basketball.

​@@jaylonsadler5641they were still way bigger than the midget warriors

Rules not gonna matter rules don't stop the warriors from shooting.

@@kevben706 thats what you think, but how can they shoot if they are guarded by the best defenders?

​@dnbr vinsmoke they were getting cooked by abdul rauf sorry but none of them are staying in front of Steph.

@@kevben706 if the warriors shoot 50% every game then it's a chip for them but below that, Bulls will just bully them in the paint and freethrows.

@@thenorthremembers728 if Steph will be consistent and shoot 50% then Bulls lose, but if not, Bulls will use the rules today as an advantage and drive all day with and one and warriors don't have an answer to that because kerr is not coaching them fro sure

distract rodman with girls

Maybe don't pay attention to the background, though?? What? 😂

You’re not Bulls fan. We don’t believe you. Just knowing that MJ, Pippen, Rodman, and Ron Harper can all tightly guard the perimeter and switch off with each other let’s us know that the Warriors would have to work extremely hard for their shots.

@@parkermudsen1063gotta take into account the rules changes and the amount of illegal screens GSW has been getting away with for years

People really don't how Good Scottie Pippen was MJ was the best player on the court Scottie was the second best player real talk and that's the reason they was that good

@@parkermudsen1063 my sentiments exactly. He doesn't know basketball with that opinion. This is a Phil Jackson coached team. Adjustments will be made when needed dog.

Ron Harper was a perennial allstar that shot better than Pippen before he joined the Bulls. Tony Cucoch was a really good shooter as well. And Scottie by 96 was a good shooter to. The difference is the defensive pressure. Guys from this are know little about real physical Defense. They can't apply it and definitely couldn't deal with it. Dennis held a prime Shaq mote than once to very low scoring. Holding KD would be easier plus he was a masyer at getting in your head with mind games. The warriors had a roster full of talented shooters that have thrived in the soft era of defense. The Bulls were sharpened in the toughest defensive era of the league. It wouldn't even be close. 4-2 if the Bulls slacked up a couole games. Remember, they swept a prime Shaq and Penny. Even their coach (Steve Kerr) said it.

🤣 facts it would be a massacre brutal

Draymond would definitely run his mouth and that would be the end of the series.

Yet get a lose on that season. Mj team didnt choke. They always dominate.

If he said the other way around they would be blacklisted and shamed...smh

😂😂😂😂stop doing drugs