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ANTM is MAD They Couldn’t FOOL This Model 

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@rianaserfontein531
@rianaserfontein531 7 месяцев назад
I have so much respect for Shannon. She refused to pose nude in cycle 1 and she stuck by her morals and convictions here. They said she's confused - no, she knows exactly who she is and what she believes. They are confused, since they don't understand the difference between underwear and swimwear.
@Joee003
@Joee003 7 месяцев назад
They think it's about coverage; it isn't. It's about the clothes' purpose. It's crystal clear to all of us...
@bebe44144
@bebe44144 7 месяцев назад
@@Joee003 I get what you're saying, I think to Shannon it's more than just about coverage, it's the significance/meaning behind the garments. I personally am not a conservative person, and wouldn't find an issue with wearing the lace shorts, but I will always advocate for respecting peoples boundaries and letting people wear what they feel comfortable in. It's all about the consent.
@myliza700
@myliza700 7 месяцев назад
Fr. It’s actually hilarious that they think that SHE is the joke when they can’t comprehend consent. Ik it’s “difficult “ to grasp for people that don’t like being told no but it’s really not that hard of a concept to grasp. “ I think she’s still a little confused “ no jay honey I think you’re lacking a few upstairs. 😂 tf Good for Shannon. She has a career without them so
@nartyteek
@nartyteek 7 месяцев назад
I've posed nude, and you have to be okay with your junk being OUT THERE forever. I am, I don't care about nudity, but most people care. It's totally normal and I don't know why people harass "prudes" who practice their own goddamn bodily autonomy. Freedom to be nude includes freedom to be clothed.
@sthefanimattos654
@sthefanimattos654 7 месяцев назад
​@@Joee003It's such a stupid way of thinking that it's difficult to understand
@FaithRoswell
@FaithRoswell 7 месяцев назад
AAAAAAAAAgh!!! As a former professional model it drives me bonkers when people don't understand where Shannon is coming from. It's not the level of nudity she's uncomfy with- it's the context! Bathing suits are made to be seen in public, while lingerie is not. Therefore, the only person who would usually see her in lingerie would be her husband. I refused to pose topless because I hated the 'lads mag' style of modelling, but posed fully nude in the classical painting style. Most people understood the difference. Some photographers simply refused to, and got pretty nasty about it.
@Who-en2vo
@Who-en2vo 7 месяцев назад
Ohmygod I think we posed together in NYC with Paul W 😂 hope you’re doing well!!
@FaithRoswell
@FaithRoswell 7 месяцев назад
@@Who-en2vo omg it's a tiny little world!!! I actually have a print of one of our pictures on my wall!! I'm doing great thanks- I still model a bit but I teach self defence and cage fight now. 😁🖤 How the heck are you??
@Emo_Squirtle
@Emo_Squirtle 7 месяцев назад
But I’ve seen swimwear cover less than underwear? Like I don’t mean to be mean or rude but I don’t understand, maybe because I’m not married but I have been with my bf for over a year and I would rather keep a certain percentage of my body covered regardless of context because seeing/knowing what my body looks like belongs only to my boyfriend and me. Like I would never wear just shorts and a sports bra to the gym, and I wouldn’t wear a bikini to the pool/beach.
@Girlofpages
@Girlofpages 7 месяцев назад
​@@Emo_SquirtleI understand why you'd be confused but I understand somewhat why the comfort level would be different. I feel like swimwear is often (but not always. Looking at you Kylie swim) double lined, not sheer, it stays in place well of it fits. Lingerie is just less *sturdy* it feels like less is covered even if the same amount of skin is showing. Posing in undies feels more vulnerable to me.
@FaithRoswell
@FaithRoswell 7 месяцев назад
​@@Emo_Squirtle It's because it's not about coverage at all- it's about who the garment is intended for. A little bikini that is made to be seen by the public is fine. But the only person who will see her wearing lingerie is her husband. So she's not happy wearing something that in her opinion only her husband should see.
@raigenhuss7030
@raigenhuss7030 7 месяцев назад
Most people would be more uncomfortable being seen in their underwear than a bathing suit. It comes down to consent. Typically people in bathing suits are consenting to people seeing their bathing suit. Underwear is typically not seen. It’s worn underneath our clothes so we don’t typically consent for people to see that item. It’s not that complicated ANTM 🤦🏼‍♀️
@malkam.7543
@malkam.7543 7 месяцев назад
exactly! and even if someone's personal boundaries make no sense to you, it doesn't give you the right to violate those boundaries. You must respect peoples personal boundaries regardless of whether you agree. It's that simple. Just respect people.
@riel4553
@riel4553 7 месяцев назад
I literally had this fight with a coworker. I told him that if he catches someone changing, that is NOT the time to stay there arguing "you wear less for the beach, blah blah blah!!!" in his mind everybody wears a thong or a string bikini, so what's the big deal??? I told him that the big deal is that bathing suits aren't usually see-thru.
@whisperwillows
@whisperwillows 7 месяцев назад
also underwear tends to be more see-through as well, and made for the purpose of only your chosen person/people seeing you in it. I believe Shannon also said at some point that underwear is reserved for her husband
@Mialc01
@Mialc01 7 месяцев назад
41:55 they probably hired them to say that
@Mialc01
@Mialc01 7 месяцев назад
42:55 that's BS. Britnnay was the most memorable of the show
@graemhoek
@graemhoek 7 месяцев назад
You don't have to understand someone's boundaries to respect them.
@ewjrejesdffdki87
@ewjrejesdffdki87 7 месяцев назад
The point. Thank you
@DiMagnolia
@DiMagnolia 6 месяцев назад
Precisely!
@curiositypiqued6573
@curiositypiqued6573 Месяц назад
What's that in reference to???
@Grande-Dame
@Grande-Dame 7 месяцев назад
So Tyra yelled at a model for posing for playboy (even though she pressures others to pose nude) because she doesn’t like what Playboy portrays… But she doesn’t understand why Shannon doesn’t want to pose in lingerie?
@not_you_i_dont_even_know_you
@not_you_i_dont_even_know_you 6 месяцев назад
Well no one can accuse Tyra Banks of having critical thinking skills
@margarethmichelina5146
@margarethmichelina5146 4 месяца назад
That is the same woman who's always asking "Why are you crying?" Whenever she or the other judges just bullying and humiliating a girl and making her losing her self esteem. She is the type of person who will ask you "Why are you crying?" Or "How does it feel?" In you family's funeral.
@sleepy-peepy
@sleepy-peepy 7 месяцев назад
Shannon’s boundary makes perfect sense, it’s so good she was mature enough not to be gaslit into believing she was being unreasonable. You wear a swimsuit to the beach, they’re made to be seen. You wear underwear in private, it’s made for you and your partner. Someone you’d be okay seeing at the beach walking in on you in your underwear would naturally still make you uncomfortable. There’s only a “double standard” when you wrongfully believe it’s about skin showing.
@lizstyla88
@lizstyla88 7 месяцев назад
Exactly, I think Jay made the assumption it was about skin showing and being covered up but it was more an intimacy issue. Regardless if Jay 'understands' or not the show runners should have respected her wish.
@Jennifer-pb9nd
@Jennifer-pb9nd 4 месяца назад
if someone was in the office or an airplane or any other setting in a bikini, I would be equally uncomfortable as if in underwear because they are the same damn thing.
@chelseachelseabun
@chelseachelseabun 7 месяцев назад
All Stars was more like a Black Mirror episode than a modelling show. It was just Tyra narrowing each girl down to one personality trait, then judging them based on how well they lived up to that label
@MariaPaula-uw3ds
@MariaPaula-uw3ds 6 месяцев назад
It would be much better if the girls chose the concept based on what they want to show from their personalities
@margarethmichelina5146
@margarethmichelina5146 6 месяцев назад
Also, if you look at the ratings, ever since All Star Cycle, the ratings are going down. Then, Tyra double down by giving social media score and also putting male models. Putting social media score to modelling is just stupid because Tyra let the people who knows nothing about modelling to give vote! Those people only vote because they feel the picture is good or not in their eyes.And the worst part is, it all happened before the show even premiered so the models who has higher score on social media score always come out for having ugly personality on the show later. It's like looking at the menu on the restaurant and you see the picture of the menu looks good but when you taste the food, it's below your expectations. And putting male models is just copying Big Brother or The Bachelor/ Bachelorete and those male models are mostly simping to female models and the show becomes "Who's sleeping with who?" Cycle 16 is the peak of ANTM.
@lizabethhuntley9360
@lizabethhuntley9360 7 месяцев назад
I would love to see a contest for Americas Next Best Photographer where multiple photographers shoot the same professional model to see who comes out with the best photograph. They have to work the stylist, set design, retouches, and give the model directions to see who best captures what the client wants.
@Heroesfullyalive
@Heroesfullyalive 7 месяцев назад
Knowing reality TV though, they'd deliberately choose the worst pictures for some to make them look bad before eliminating them. P.s. Sorry, this show has made me jaded.
@alyssamarescalco1431
@alyssamarescalco1431 6 месяцев назад
She used to have a series where multiple photographers shot one model, obviously not a whole tv show but it was interesting to see
@nealbrook4226
@nealbrook4226 6 месяцев назад
@@HeroesfullyaliveCould just have the photographer pick the photo, since they’re probably the one editing it too?
@MariaPaula-uw3ds
@MariaPaula-uw3ds 6 месяцев назад
Omg this is actually SUCH a good idea!
@Heroesfullyalive
@Heroesfullyalive 6 месяцев назад
@@nealbrook4226 Yes, but where would the made up drama come from is everyone gets along? These reality TV shows ALWAYS have drama. Real or made up. ANTM did personality and psychological evaluations to pick the best people to cause drama. And when there weren't any they cut the scenes to make it that way.
@p1rat3ch1ck
@p1rat3ch1ck 7 месяцев назад
I hate Jay saying Shannon is still a little confused. She's not confused. She has never changed her stance of swimsuits can be worn in public and underwear can't. They keep trying to trap her in every season she's in and she's been so clear.
@donnahuang5567
@donnahuang5567 7 месяцев назад
It's literally mansplaining her boundaries.
@biljam972
@biljam972 7 месяцев назад
they always gaslit models, nothing new, they did it many times.
@vlo4829
@vlo4829 6 месяцев назад
@@donnahuang5567 It wasn't mansplaining. That line was straight from the producers/Tyra. Tyra and the panel repeated it at judging like they always do when they snared a girl in a set-up. The outfit was chosen to get that response, and Jay either didn't know what she was wearing and was tipped off on how to confront her OR he was aware of her outfit specifically because it was planted to cause drama. If he had been asked about the top/pants/dress/accessory/etc of ANY of the other models prior to them walking out, I don't believe he would have known. But SOMEHOW, he was keenly aware of those lace bottoms.
@elysemorgan1854
@elysemorgan1854 7 месяцев назад
It’s just crazy how the judges would on one hand say “we’re teaching how to become models in the REAL world” but then also act like the predators in the real world trying to persuade models to wear under or shoot nude when they aren’t comfortable… so messed up
@politereminder6284
@politereminder6284 6 месяцев назад
It's grooming for abuse
@andrearace1168
@andrearace1168 5 месяцев назад
I can imagine girls who maybe wanted to be models deciding not to because they think that's what's "normal in the industry"
@JJ-jh6dk
@JJ-jh6dk 5 месяцев назад
this def doesn't justify their actions but the actual modeling industry can be extremely predatory as well
@TheFeminineLinguist
@TheFeminineLinguist 7 месяцев назад
it's very obvious the more morals and boundaries you have on ANTM, the more they're going to try and break you. Almost nobody was styled in underwear/bikinis, but Shannon is the one they knew would have a problem with that, so they constantly feel the need to call her bluff and she proves time and again she will not be moved.
@vlo4829
@vlo4829 6 месяцев назад
Right? The other models get dresses, pants, gowns, skirts, shorts, etc. but with Shannon they're like "All we have is lingerie. Or what if you model nude, breasts to breeze?"
@Girlhead
@Girlhead 7 месяцев назад
Concerning the booing that Alexandria got, I think it was real, and this is why. Her season had just happened (she was in season 16, and All-Stars was 17) and she got a REALLY bad edit. I watched all of the Oliver Twixt interviews with other girls from her cycle. All the girls said though she was a bit extra and annoying at times. but despite that they all liked her. They said that she was actually nice most of the time though, and their words were edited to make it looked like they all hated her. They would say things like "Alexandria is such a drama queen- but I love her." But the show cut out the "but I love her" part. If you remember how shocked Alexandria was when Brittani Kline went off on her, it was because she was shocked- the girls were friends. All the girls who were interviewed pretty much agreed that Alexandria got a terrible edit. With that being said, because she got the villian arc, I think a lot of people (myself included) did not like her at the time. And like I said, her season had JUST happened, so it was fresh in everyone's mind.
@lloydneal3137
@lloydneal3137 7 месяцев назад
correct!
@Girlhead
@Girlhead 7 месяцев назад
@@lloydneal3137 Did you see Molly's Oliver Twixt interview? It really goes over everything I said. Molly even admitted that she was also annoying and moody, but that Alexandria was by far edited the worst.
@biljam972
@biljam972 7 месяцев назад
Yes, they always make random girl a "villain" of the season. They edit her to look as bad as possible, they did that in every season, so gross! Poor girls!
@bulbasaur232
@bulbasaur232 7 месяцев назад
Lol the amount of pr spin. No. Just no. The edit can only do so much. Clients, photographers, directors, hair and makeup people ON TOP of 13 other girls who ALL collectively have a negative experience with you. Alex fighting over the raw chicken and talking down to others = edit. Omg the gaslighting.
@bulbasaur232
@bulbasaur232 7 месяцев назад
@@Girlhead oh please, seemed more than anything (since the diary incident) like pr cleanup and not wanting to get canceled by the wokiest of the wokest woke.
@CaulkMongler
@CaulkMongler 7 месяцев назад
While some of us can say “oh they knew what they were signing up for”, Lisa has been on podcasts and interviews where she said a lot of the girls were still working gigs and saw this as a good opportunity to get paid. When you live paycheck to paycheck, it’s hard to look at opportunities and be stingy. Plus, I’m sure they felt like since they’d been on and experienced it firsthand it might be easier, but no… production will always find a way to terrorize the girls.
@chelseachelseabun
@chelseachelseabun 7 месяцев назад
Tyra to the girls who haven’t changed: We want to see another side of you! Tyra to the girls who have changed: Where’s that girl? We love that girl, why did you change?
@MariaPaula-uw3ds
@MariaPaula-uw3ds 6 месяцев назад
THIS
@afrosamuraiwarrior
@afrosamuraiwarrior 5 месяцев назад
The hypocrisy is everywhere …
@svc464
@svc464 6 месяцев назад
Antm really pushed the narrative that if you want to be a model you have to give up any boundaries or hang ups you may have and just be an avatar for the industry
@seviregis7441
@seviregis7441 7 месяцев назад
You are 100% correct about how terrible every one of those photos were, the outfits, lighting, scenery, bottom basement, fire the photographer level.
@samanthafairweather9186
@samanthafairweather9186 5 месяцев назад
I know a professional photographer. He always says, "There is never a bad Model. Only a bad photographer"!
@bulbasaur232
@bulbasaur232 5 месяцев назад
I also know a professional photographer. He always says, "Candle Jenner has the best runway walk and Donald Trump won the 2020 election"!
@Miumiu0404
@Miumiu0404 7 месяцев назад
That "fan" who cussed at Alexandra was so planted by production 😂
@RachMonPhoebs
@RachMonPhoebs 7 месяцев назад
The audience wasn't booing Shannon's photo, they were going "wooooo" like "oh wow, interesting" noises.
@danakscully64
@danakscully64 6 месяцев назад
I agree. I don't think it was booing, I think the fans liked it.
@MalloryNewcomb
@MalloryNewcomb 4 месяца назад
Oh yeah I think this was good whoaaaa
@MariaPaula-uw3ds
@MariaPaula-uw3ds 6 месяцев назад
The outfits the girls were wearing on live was MUCH MORE beautiful than the ones they were using in the actual photoshoot! It's insane that they themselves could style their outfits better than the people that are PAID to do that!
@eleanoraquitaine2966
@eleanoraquitaine2966 7 месяцев назад
Thank you for shining a light on this exploitive industry. It's truly a public service because it makes people rethink the way young people are treated by this degrading, destructive business and perhaps stop it from happening anymore.
@bulbasaur232
@bulbasaur232 7 месяцев назад
Lol nah
@kellydee1057
@kellydee1057 7 месяцев назад
Not Tyra telling Alex “the opposite of love it’s not hate, it’s indifference” RIGHT in front of Brit immediately after explaining to Brit how nobody had known/remembered her 💀
@triciadevereaux9601
@triciadevereaux9601 7 месяцев назад
You know if Shannon had worn the lace panties they would have said "Oh, you didn't stand firm in your convictions!"
@Lynsey17
@Lynsey17 5 месяцев назад
15:47 I'd LOVE to know what these women were told when they were casting for this show to convince some of them to come back. Shannon and Bianca have the energy of people realizing they've been lied to. Also, love Shannon saying "my agency respects what I will and won't do." The returnees bring a level of meta awareness that what happens on the show doesn't reflect professional modeling.
@MalloryNewcomb
@MalloryNewcomb 4 месяца назад
That last part- I think about all the time with this show. That this statement should turn off anybody with some modeling experience, that this ain’t SOP in the actual industry. Baby, Shannon talked with Adrienne about this one time actually! That they called her about All Stars and that it was going to be broader than just modeling & she was wanting to get into hosting on television. So she thought this would be a good opportunity to get into that line of work. They were fine with her not shooting in underwear and she told them that from the first call. If they had said that wouldn’t work for them, she would have backed out and there would have been no problem. The problem is she was brought there under false pretenses.
@santefeaster460
@santefeaster460 7 месяцев назад
I feel like, they push the stereotypes /exaggeration of each model in their season. They also had Kayla work closely with male models knowing her trauma from the previous season she revealed
@emoo2342
@emoo2342 7 месяцев назад
They did so many girls dirty--from how they cut the footage to the unrealistic challenges with which they presented them. I'm really happy for the ones who gamed the system and used the show for exposure and are now doing very well with their careers. They may not be "household names" like Naomi, Twiggy, Grace, Tyra, etc., but they are doing well. Thanks for these videos!
@Souten66
@Souten66 7 месяцев назад
Mr. Jay saying Shannon is “A little confused” in just such a patronizing way made me want to punch him. She articulated herself very clearly that it wasn’t about what was or wasn’t covered but that underwear/nudity is reserved for her husband. She’s wear a swimsuit to the beach but she wouldn’t wear underwear to the beach. Pretty simple
@MalloryNewcomb
@MalloryNewcomb 4 месяца назад
Lol it makes me so angry too. The tone of his voice that she is “a little confused”…. Ugh She’s a good model Jay, why don’t you get over yourself? We know she’s a beautiful lady but that don’t mean we gotta see all the goods.
@J3scape
@J3scape 7 месяцев назад
I think it's so so sweet how you always defend the models. You seem like a really kind girl's girl. Like everyone's cool big sister vibes
@Brooke_Corbyn
@Brooke_Corbyn 7 месяцев назад
The lack of consent from these people for pressuring the models to wear something they arent comfortable in and the strange physical touch that they try to cut away from is real gross
@itsdangeroustogoalone-takeme
@itsdangeroustogoalone-takeme 7 месяцев назад
I’ve always loved Alexandria; she’s hands down my favorite. Those who hate her probably base that hate on how production edited her during her season. They write their own narrative for each of the girls regardless of their true personalities.
@abcdefg2174
@abcdefg2174 7 месяцев назад
I love her too. I feel like she was so misunderstood
@ledwards273
@ledwards273 7 месяцев назад
She is ..I luv her too but she was acting oddly fake on All stars ..maybe I’m missing something @@abcdefg2174
@bulbasaur232
@bulbasaur232 7 месяцев назад
No we can write that narrative ourselves. Alex is our patron siant of virtue who NEVER EVER did anything wrong. Fits perfectly for this outrage channel. Alex, ridicules, talks down to people laughs at them, fights with them, disparaged them (just the models, not talking about the clients, photographers, directors and crew she upset) You people: she's wonderful, they're just trying to edit her that way Alex makes Jaclyn cry: You: it's the edit Sky green grass purple. Gaslight gatekeep gurlboss!
@Mirani.
@Mirani. 6 месяцев назад
@@bulbasaur232talk about gaslighting
@bulbasaur232
@bulbasaur232 6 месяцев назад
@@Mirani. we're all in good company then :D
@bottleblonde8170
@bottleblonde8170 7 месяцев назад
They really expect us to believe that they don't understand that she doesn't want to pose in underwear but does want a bathing suit 'cause the former is meant for UNDER YOUR CLOTHES AND THAT SHE WANTS TO KEEP IT PRIVATE?
@michelledawn7446
@michelledawn7446 7 месяцев назад
Yeah I don’t think it’s about skin showing for her but they didn’t get that. Shannon sees the lacy panties as something intimate. It is a pretty well known thing that lingerie is meant for private time with a partner. Bathing suit bottoms are for the beach. That’s the difference.
@1omarella
@1omarella 7 месяцев назад
She shouldn’t have to spell it out that you were swimwear out, you wear lingerie to bed. It’s not about how much it’s covering. She doesn’t want to put the “bedroom image” out there. For her, that’s the boundary. It’s simple.
@TheKitehh
@TheKitehh 7 месяцев назад
Plus they "styled" her a in way she was never comfortable to begin with and leverage that bikini choice on her. They deliberately put her in that situation and then gaslighted her!!! And bringing that topic to live audience while everyone listens made me uncomfortable, it's not your business to question her boundaries. This show is on another level.
@1omarella
@1omarella 7 месяцев назад
@@TheKitehh exactly, and she was already an established model with a successful career. Going against her brand, that she is known for, could hurt her career in the long run. This show was unethical sabotage.
@MalloryNewcomb
@MalloryNewcomb 4 месяца назад
@@1omarellaespecially since she had it worked into her contracts that she wasn’t going to do lingerie. There’s a lot of money that you can make shooting lingerie so the fact her agencies still wanted her despite fewer options of what they’d send her to… means they had faith in her that she could still book. Some of these women have a brand of how their known in the show. Shannon has a brand in the larger sense where she doesn’t pose nude. Kind of like Coco Rocha. If Coca Rocha posed naked I would be like “what happened?!” Tbh
@amberspecter
@amberspecter 6 месяцев назад
I don't understand why they are hell bent on making Shannon wear underwear. I don't even agree with her philosophy of drawing an arbitrary line bewteen bathing suits and lingerie, but I still wouldn't insist on it, because, like she said, it's about her image and how she wants to be portrayed. Why do they choose to act as though models don't have a say in the types of jobs they do?
@lucyfurr777
@lucyfurr777 7 месяцев назад
"Did we make a mistake" "Yes, for 17 seasons"😂😂😂
@adaywithroandkay5532
@adaywithroandkay5532 7 месяцев назад
The irony of them forcing these women into uncomfortable situations in a photoshoot that is supposed to show off their own personalities and what they are known for 🤦🏼‍♀️
@JaceySpacey
@JaceySpacey 7 месяцев назад
I remember watching this as it aired and being SO disappointed and underwhelmed by the shoots and low budget vibes, especially because this cycle was directly after the high fashion cycles
@kaylahuntington7059
@kaylahuntington7059 6 месяцев назад
All the budget went to Nicki Minaj 😅
@ArtemisPearl
@ArtemisPearl 7 месяцев назад
Even when studying for my photography degree NO student would ever do something this horrible. This set and styling is embarrassing. We had no money but did way better than this. They know better
@eglop5841
@eglop5841 7 месяцев назад
11:00 idk if anyone else noticed Mr Jay telling Iris “you can do all the way bikini now “ or wtv it’s a reference to her gender change because on her initial season Iris had struggled with this problem due to her personal journey and they made her feel bad about it all
@michelledawn7446
@michelledawn7446 7 месяцев назад
Cycle 17 aired in 2011 and cycle 9 (which Bianca was on) aired in 2007. So only about 4 or 5 years but it probably feels like 10 years. They went through cycles so quickly.
@birdsinparadise3113
@birdsinparadise3113 6 месяцев назад
I think they did two a year normally. I think survivor did the same but I'm not a survivor watcher
@skoo4221
@skoo4221 7 месяцев назад
I think it's so interesting that Shannon was supposed to portray an innocent and "angelic" persona yet they wanted her to wear skimpy clothing and no pants: whether it was underwear or swimwear it wouldn't have made sense for the shoot in my opinion. Seems like they just wanted a dramatic moment where she refused to wear underwear so they could yell at her for it. And sure I agree that not wanting to wear underwear but being fine with a smaller swimsuit is pretty hypocritical, but the thing about boundaries is that they don't always make sense: you can't always explain why you're not comfortable with something, and you shouldn't have to! The models' boundaries should be respected even if they're contradictory because making your models feel safe and comfortable is more important than winning a stupid little debate about lace underwear.
@alliepenaherrera1976
@alliepenaherrera1976 7 месяцев назад
I feel like it's not even hypocritical tbh. Like I wouldn't wear a dominatrix suit to my office even though it covers everything, you know?
@skoo4221
@skoo4221 7 месяцев назад
@@alliepenaherrera1976 Oh yeah that's a good point! I guess I was thinking more from a cultural standpoint, like the fact that society views those two things as so different, but that's not Shannon's fault lol so it's really not hypocritical coming from her.
@baydiac
@baydiac 7 месяцев назад
@@skoo4221It wasn't a contradiction if they were going for a Victoria's Angels concept. Angelic = skimpy in that case. ...but like, it's giving copyright infringement. It's giving unoriginal. I would've lived and died for her angelic outfit concept to be like, grecian drapery with golden accents/accessories. Can you imagine? It only takes a little effort to come up with a gorgeous concept. They definitely wanted to single her out!
@skoo4221
@skoo4221 7 месяцев назад
@baydiac Oh that's a good point too! And yeah legit there were lots of other ways to do an "angelic" photoshoot that would have been both original and comfortable for Shannon, but apparently that's not what the show is about. 😅
@Katya_Lastochka
@Katya_Lastochka 6 месяцев назад
No, shes right. A bathing suit and underwear are completely different. Some male swimming trunks are smaller than boxers, but tou dont wear boxers in public.
@animalmombie
@animalmombie 7 месяцев назад
I just saw the door cracking open and I was like.."what the hell..?" Then I remembered you had a cat 🤣😅
@JessicaKobeissi
@JessicaKobeissi 7 месяцев назад
My cat runs things around here 😪
@animalmombie
@animalmombie 7 месяцев назад
@@JessicaKobeissi As they usually do, lol 🤣
@jenniferbond7073
@jenniferbond7073 7 месяцев назад
@@JessicaKobeissiI wish we could see kitty morrrrrreeeeee!
@its-MK...
@its-MK... 6 месяцев назад
The bar was on the ground and ANTM said, "hand me a shovel!"
@julsweaver
@julsweaver 7 месяцев назад
Id love to see you review and talk about Jay Manuel's book about being on ANTM. I don't think he'd be the arbiter of truth, but it'd be fun to see you break down his stories and compare to what you've noticed about the show - just throwing that out there bc I love your commenary on this show the most! ❤️
@kelsiemcveety999
@kelsiemcveety999 7 месяцев назад
Yes!!!! I feel like I learned a lot but of course he has his own bias
@PHSDM104
@PHSDM104 7 месяцев назад
His book was messier than Kitchen Nightmares.
@xm2895
@xm2895 7 месяцев назад
Have her read model land
@kai_winchester_66
@kai_winchester_66 7 месяцев назад
Good on Shannon for standing her ground and upholding her boundary.
@kingarthurscat
@kingarthurscat 7 месяцев назад
I had to pause at the Shannon part to say this. "You don't have to understand or even agree with my reasons for a boundary, you just have to respect them."
@kyleecronin2089
@kyleecronin2089 7 месяцев назад
The Alexandra hate wasn’t planted, she was coming off the most insane season where they turned Alexandra’s every breath into an angry sigh… she would have been out there only a few weeks after the finale aired and people HATED her.
@M33PSTER
@M33PSTER 6 месяцев назад
I have so much respect for Shannon. ANTM makes it really hard for the girls to say no so kudos to Shannon for standing her ground.
@byohazrd13
@byohazrd13 6 месяцев назад
The underwear vs. bikini thing is about consent and the intention of the garment. Underwear is meant to be a private piece of clothing that most people have the reasonable expectation that it will not be seen in public except by accident or violation. Bikinis are something you put on with the intent to go to a public place in. This model has made a personal decision that she does not want to be an underwear model, for her own personal discomfort with herself in intimate attire being viewed by the public. Good for her for standing her ground and holding firm on her boundaries about her bodily autonomy and consent. It doesn’t matter if it shows less, it’s about the context of the garment, and the associated consent for public viewing of the garment on her body.
@nartyteek
@nartyteek 7 месяцев назад
Allison always looks like she's lit like a Caravaggio painting wherever she goes.
@12Kyra121
@12Kyra121 7 месяцев назад
They could have gone to walmart and find way way better clothes than they did for this photoshoot.
@cecee3480
@cecee3480 6 месяцев назад
Walmart didn’t sell stylish clothing back then at all.
@donnahuang5567
@donnahuang5567 7 месяцев назад
I haven't seen this show in a decade so I'm not sure what's changed. But it's so nice to see these accomplished, confident women who know their ability and worth. They no longer cower to the ridiculous, half-baked critique
@majinneda
@majinneda 7 месяцев назад
I've been waiting on you to review this one for sooo long because of the abuse Alexandria received. I may not remember everything from the show, but I do remember feeling terrible for Alexandria being bullied for just existing. They tried to make her seem like a bad person, and unlikable, but she never behaved in a way that warranted it. She deserved so much better. It reminds me of the even more HORRENDOUS transphobic abuse Isis experienced from the other contestants during a photoshoot. It sickened me. And Tyra just had to bring up her gender and body again in front of a huge crowd of strangers. Isis handled it like a rockstar, but she shouldn't have to. She seemed uncomfortable. Just treat her like the woman she is.
@billliealim
@billliealim 6 месяцев назад
Well technically, Isis is still a man but is suffering from Gender Dysphoria and presents herself as a woman and there is absolutely nothing wrong with that as long as she’s not a narcissistic SJW using the oppressed marginalized victim card to get away with anything. If anything, she was graceful
@Opkiksdhkzo
@Opkiksdhkzo 7 месяцев назад
they specially invited Alexsandria from season 16 here to create drama. If ANTM had a task to call celebrity models, they would have called Hannah
@nicoleackerman205
@nicoleackerman205 25 дней назад
Molly was original suppose to do all stars but they said it would give away that she lost because this started filming a couple weeks before cycle 16 finale aired. According to interview Molly gave.
@Iwantcandyyyyy
@Iwantcandyyyyy 7 месяцев назад
Your roasting of the styling made me laugh so many times. You are my inner voice lol. 😂😂
@TheTatumness
@TheTatumness 7 месяцев назад
The reason the background is the same is that it was actually composed into a group shoot for the promotional images for the show- and yes, real fans of the show probably did yell at Alexandria because she was not received well by fans during her season because she was given the villain edit (but a very unlikeable one)
@anthonyclayton8051
@anthonyclayton8051 7 месяцев назад
When I saw the first photo shoot then Brittany being the 1st eliminated for crap reasons I knew this cycle was going to be a mess 😂
@zarrabaw9672
@zarrabaw9672 5 месяцев назад
Right how can no one remember her she was so energetic and fun
@WillSing4TP
@WillSing4TP 7 месяцев назад
I had no problem posing nude for art classes. However, I would NEVER wear underwear out in public. I'm not an exhibitionist, fer fook's sake. Their reasoning is beyond bizarre. I admired Shannon's stance.😎
@dd6325
@dd6325 7 месяцев назад
This season was the biggest letdown and disappointment in ANTM entire history and franchise. It was SO overly gimmicky, NONE of the challenges made any sense, the photoshoots weren’t elevated. It’s like you know Tyra was setting these girls up not to surpass her. The sad part is Bianca and Kayla were the ones that really got how the show wasn’t elevating them and they got booted instead of listened to. This could have been HIGH fashion, the girls had the talent and personalities, but instead it was a mess, including the finale and crowned finalist.
@patriciaschiro2659
@patriciaschiro2659 7 месяцев назад
There was cute tutu skirt on the rack that would have looked great instead of the lace panties but they just wanted drama. I bet they put down on their forms what they were not willing to do and they tried to choose things that would try to push those boundaries. The difference with this season and others is these girls are actually working in the industry now so they have nothing to loose.
@BUIjee-BUItifullyNailed
@BUIjee-BUItifullyNailed 7 месяцев назад
wow , I’ve watched every ANTM video you post and i would have never been able to watch these without hearing my thoughts out loud. AKA Jess Jess roasting these judges and all the crap they have been doing all these years. Thank you for calling it out
@foxbuns
@foxbuns 5 месяцев назад
are we not going to talk about how they called Bre's theme "ghetto fabulous"😭
@zoevokes6406
@zoevokes6406 7 месяцев назад
The location was the major problem for me, not the styling. I can’t imagine any photos would look great in such a bad location. They obviously had no money this season if they’re doing it in the back garden. I’m sure there was somewhere in the garden that had a better background than that mess. In the water, or at nighttime, lit with harsh lights to give contrast or using different colour lights… anything more artistic or creative than this. These photos could have been taken by their friend by the pool. Not sophisticated or fashionable at all.
@lizstyla88
@lizstyla88 7 месяцев назад
Even if Mr Jay thinks it's trivial it's important to Shannon, she is communicating to Mr Jay that she does not want to be in underwear and the show runners need to respect that.
@alexandraphelps4020
@alexandraphelps4020 7 месяцев назад
I agree about the “fan” who booed being planted by producers and I like your photographer’s POV.
@storytimewithyaz
@storytimewithyaz 6 месяцев назад
I mean, my question is if the photo shoot was supposed to be representing the models style/career/persona, why would they even try to get her into something that she had clearly expressed makes her uncomfortable. Their idea failed & their stylist failed, it’s quite simple.
@jess__rodriguez
@jess__rodriguez 7 месяцев назад
I will die on the hill that Allison should have won her season and even this season tbh like they never appreciated her
@birdsinparadise3113
@birdsinparadise3113 6 месяцев назад
I agree, but they knew who she was and what she did. I don't think they could trust her to represent antm in a way they'd want.
@mindybunny
@mindybunny 12 дней назад
​@birdsinparadise3113 what did she do?
@Escalated401
@Escalated401 9 дней назад
@@birdsinparadise3113.
@MackenzieNerdyEMT
@MackenzieNerdyEMT 7 месяцев назад
Swimsuit and underwear have completely different energies behind them. I'd be fine in a swimsuit around people outside of my husband. Underwear? Not at all.
@Black_mocha1
@Black_mocha1 6 месяцев назад
I feel bad for Bianca because this cycle was a mockery cycle. Bianca was working hard on her modeling career after her initial cycle (even Tyra acknowledged that) and she hoped the show would help increase her portfolio and get her foot into the fashion industry a lost faster and all it did was turn her into a bad reality tv star.
@birdsinparadise3113
@birdsinparadise3113 6 месяцев назад
For return they get paid, at least much better than their original seasons. I don't think it is a lot, the information is hard to get because they get NDA of ten years in their contract. Anyone just getting by, not making big model money, and their age, if antm only paid them 500 a week, it's a nice pay out at the end.
@alexandrehernandezalvarado8032
@alexandrehernandezalvarado8032 7 месяцев назад
They were working so hard to try and portray Shannon as a hypocrite.
@patriciaschiro2659
@patriciaschiro2659 7 месяцев назад
I remember when the show first came out and as a young model myself at the time I was so excited about it. I then watched it and was so disappointed that they belittled the girls. I was hoping it would be inspiring.
@sega_sistarz
@sega_sistarz 7 месяцев назад
Swimsuits aren't intimate, Underwear is...don't understand what's so hard to understand, Jay, Nickie. They do look like swimsuit bottoms. Definitely different texture and look. Come on. And why we always hating on natural hair?
@meganh4011
@meganh4011 7 месяцев назад
All of these women should be proud of who they are, and remember the brighter you shine. The more people will try to bring your shine down. By doing immature things by yelling names at you, etc. shine bright like a diamond all y'all.💫💞
@addkeifspsdcvl
@addkeifspsdcvl 7 месяцев назад
That mean girl segment with Jessica was hilarious. I love these videos so much lol
@GothBratJinx
@GothBratJinx 7 месяцев назад
I’ve seen all of your videos on ANTM and for some reason I could have sworn I’ve seen you react to this one! But I love this series of yours 😁
@TabbyWithMittens
@TabbyWithMittens 7 месяцев назад
I’m still mind blown why it’s such a big deal if she doesn’t want to wear underwear for photos. I personally wouldn’t want to wear underwear or panties for photos either let alone for other people to see. Hell more power for the models that do wear those and lingerie for photos because I wouldn’t be comfortable myself, but at the same time they deserve respect if they don’t want to wear it either. 😵‍💫
@KrystalReanna11
@KrystalReanna11 7 месяцев назад
With Shannon it’s context and verbiage because as soon as the stylist said “panties” she changed her mind but she’s wearing the lace top. If they would’ve called it lounge wear or pajamas it could’ve been a different outcome. I don’t fault Shannon for her standing I just think this situation came down to semantics.
@deanfmofficial
@deanfmofficial 7 месяцев назад
Love you Jessica thank you for uploading! 👍🏽
@yorozuyasilver6034
@yorozuyasilver6034 6 месяцев назад
my soul almost left my body when I saw the door open by itself and you remained unnoticed for a good couple of seconds there
@PedroBenolielBonito
@PedroBenolielBonito 7 месяцев назад
Lisa being Lisa is always the best part of these episodes. Especially in the All-Star season after she already has a career and can afford to have zero f's to give.
@sushmitabiswas6325
@sushmitabiswas6325 6 месяцев назад
When you say 'I better be crying seeing those pictures' - I am like, you are going to be crying seeing the pictures anyways because they're going to be so bad and you know it LAMO 🤣🤣🤣
@zoelafontaine8146
@zoelafontaine8146 7 месяцев назад
About Isis’s dress, I know she designed dresses that she wore later in the show, and I think she did the green one also!
@KivaDigs
@KivaDigs 5 месяцев назад
You and your kitty was my favorite part! Keep shining, Jessica!
@rethie
@rethie 7 месяцев назад
Brittany wasn't going to make the content that Alexandria would so of course they got rid of her. And you nailed it on the head with the consent issue for Shannon. I know the ANTM people think they own these girls and their bodies but that is not the case, even when you're signed onto reality TV hell.
@chelseachelseabun
@chelseachelseabun 7 месяцев назад
Creative direction - play up to your ‘character trait’, go BIG! Judging - it’s almost TOO big These girls were set up to fail for ‘entertainment’
@MarioRamirez-gm4vn
@MarioRamirez-gm4vn 7 месяцев назад
3:50 Jessica, with Bianca on her original season, she originally had Black and Red hair. However, the judges hated it and wanted to give her blond, but they ended shaving her head. But exactly, why are we going back to the past? Especially if they didn’t like it back then. And now as an adult, Bianca doesn’t like it. I think she was 18 her original season but yeah the judges were getting a reaction from these girls. It’s similar to Shannon and the underwear
@ckilbarger01
@ckilbarger01 7 месяцев назад
They literally had so many options and many other models were wearing more clothes (short but not mini dresses, shirt and pants, things like that) and yet for "angelic" they went with a lingerie set? Ok. Try telling me it's not about pushing her boundaries and trying to cause drama
@juliakeler8234
@juliakeler8234 6 месяцев назад
There was a model in "Germany's Next TopModel" who quit the show and her mananger said to her after looking into her portfolio from the show, that all those photos are junk and she should throw them away. So yeah
@jessie9627
@jessie9627 7 месяцев назад
If I submitted pictures like that in my photography class I’d get a bad grade. Idk where they found this photographer. 😂
@softeyesworld
@softeyesworld 7 месяцев назад
The way jay said “I can do a bikini all the way now” felt really off to me.
@rainydays9967
@rainydays9967 7 месяцев назад
Jessica’s cat is exactly the same as mine every time I film, I love it 😻
@miap6844
@miap6844 5 месяцев назад
Haha, I saw your door open around the four minute mark and thought ‘yep, that’s a cat. Where’s the cat?!’ So happy you brought them out.
@emilyfournier4869
@emilyfournier4869 7 месяцев назад
“ that was a lie, I just lied there”😭😭
@theheartofthestone
@theheartofthestone 6 месяцев назад
One of my favorite quotes is "the bar was on the ground and yet you found a shovel."
@JONSTERLEE
@JONSTERLEE 7 месяцев назад
I feel like the only photo they could put in their portfolio from this season was the Express campaign photoshoot. It's the most commercial, I suppose. All the other photoshoots were gimmicks or used for "branding" purposes. Everything seemed so cringe-worthy, like production was really hamming it up for TV versus actually wanting to help the models with their careers. I still can't get over the music video episode. You honestly need to react to it. It feels like a fever dream. Tyra was soooooooo messy, I swear.
@birdsinparadise3113
@birdsinparadise3113 6 месяцев назад
And they would not get the best photo or group of photos they'd be getting the one they use in the show. And you know they select for drama not necessarily the best one
@freshsansidk7302
@freshsansidk7302 6 месяцев назад
the crowd booing and people swearing was definitely staged it is way too convenient that supposedly none of the judges heard it, but the microphones picked it up perfectly fine enough for the audience watching to hear it loud and clear.
@linnhuman
@linnhuman 7 месяцев назад
I love these videos so much ❤
@Brittanysplittany
@Brittanysplittany 7 месяцев назад
Jessica you look so beautiful! In love with your outfit with the necklace and the hair bow 🩷
@jbartlet827
@jbartlet827 7 месяцев назад
Honestly, I've never seen this show, but I found your commentary to be really interesting. Great job! I suppose I'll have to check out the show now : ) Thank you for a really fun watch!
@Jalil-wx7rh
@Jalil-wx7rh 7 месяцев назад
Nigel: "I remember you doing the hammer dance for me". Yeah, and you looked terrified. Don't try to be amused now. Lol
@DiMagnolia
@DiMagnolia 6 месяцев назад
Whether the person heckling was planted or not it’s still on the production for not finding and kicking out that person immediately and for painting Alexandria out to be a villain in both seasons.
@grasshopperye3593
@grasshopperye3593 5 месяцев назад
The way Shannon was staring at Jay when he was trying to pressure her to wear the underwear lol. She saw right through him and wasn't having it, and he was being so manipulative about this. His smile at the end too says he knows what just happened. She's so self-possessed in that scene. I think her experience modeling must also help her be this confident--she's not as vulnerable as someone new to the industry who can be tricked into thinking like this is the norm, you must adapt to it.
@sstjohn96
@sstjohn96 7 месяцев назад
The judges just scramble to be able to have a "ha, gotcha!" moment and it never actually works.
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