AoE3 vs AoE3 DE Graphics Comparison 

very sad that you don't have 1tb ram or 1 petabyte of pcie 5.0 nvme storage and rtx 3090 with nvlink

really sad that you don't have 50k dollar gaming pc

So the in game video is more crips ?

@@kyle259 because that's its base clock?

fairly good...... focking fight me m8 :p

Ikr, considering how long we wait for 4K capybara.

Or as we cultured people call them Carpincho

@@thessop9439 my Brazilian girlfriend didn't know this word. Is it from Spanish speaking Latin countries?

@@Lucius4992 Thanks

@@GreenTimeEagle In Brazil, it is called capivara. I have also never heard of "carpincho", the Spanish word, but wikipedia says it is also used in some parts of Southern Brazil, due proximity to the border of Spanish speaking countries.

Lol yeah

AoE3 was a genuinely great looking game for it's time. Especially the water.

Yeah, that was what they were upgrading. They definitely pulled it off but I don't really feel like they needed to, but ok cool. Colors are more vivid now, that's for sure.

1:56 there original look SO Much better than DE

@@GarfieldRex If you have a fetish for overdone bloom, sure.

I think it's probably a performance thing.

Iron shot exploding as it hits masts and hull also looks very stupid The particle effects are all a downgrade

100% Downgrade

Looks downgraded yep, this confirms it. Less chunks of ships should get damaged and i think this would be the same to buildings

My older computer (for some reason) would grind to a halt if a ship piece broke. Only in ships, not buildings. Also, deactivating the feature (i believe the option was 'High-poly models' or something like that) would eliminate this weird performance bug. I had to literally move the screen to a mill or something for it to recover the framerate over about 30 seconds. I'm guessing they downgraded it because they could not fix this problem, whatever it was

I dont agree, overall it looks more like a downgrade, like any DE so far. You cant even play a TG in aoe2 DE without a drop in 33% of all games, or you simply have to play maps you dont want to play or get unfair teams

@@WhiteSharks-wz6kn that's totally not what OP was talking about

The way ships get destroyed now makes me feel like they wanted it to be clear that the ship is destroyed. That's what I dislike about AOE2, destruction time takes so long and while it lasts the building is still considered "alive".

@@kesiazezebajki1982 I loved the slow building destruction in Aoe2DE. It's GOLD!!

@@Cra3ier From the artistic point of view sure, but not when you play a fast paced game, especially on higher level. You want things to be as clear as possible.

I prefer the new sped up animations because I always have difficulty determining exactly when a ship is destroyed. To me this makes it way more obvious which is a nice QoL change when it matters in those close navel battles

@@wolvbeast1849 its a change of 1 second

Which is what?

@@ishanp3196 Solid. Not bad nor out standing.

Amen to that

Nah, believe me I was close beta tester, when you have it in your hands you will know... It feels like a downgrade in many ways in the graphic section... You would be re-buying the game just for some "DLC's" with some new factions and modes like "Art of war" and such...

@@MagoGuitarrista Agreed now that I have it. They need to smooth out the graphics and performance. It’s kind of trash right now.

LMAO I THOUGHT THE SAME THING do they???

i think its the case

I refunded the game after my first match. The definitive edition is underwhelming

@@EngelOCE pathetic....

The effect of the explosion should have just been used for fire ships

Its for clarity during multiplayer.

i think it has something to do with realism imagine losing your sales, how will the ship move on water? there are no motors or paddles... unless they add a mechanic that makes the ship unable to move until repaired, i see why they did that

I believe it's just temporary. They'll probably add it in the future. AoE 2 also had vanishing arrows when they hit the ground. But later, they fixed it that the arrow is still sticking on the ground when they hit no unit.

they do break apart, it's just that the breakage isn't as visible due to the explosions covering them up, but you'll see that the bits are still missing and flying off etc

It's a graphics setting

@@flaviosobbin8274 no it isnt

It's much better for me hahahhaha For some reason when I play AoE III ships and buildings just turn transparent and fade, I had no idea gradual destruction was a thing

@@ruthswann88 That was caused by a setting. :)

@@ruthswann88 wow i feel bad for you. At least now you can *see something* with this edition

This 1000 times. I feel like the ship getting damaged was the real thing back in 2005 and really showed how Havok engine was an amazing feature. I was hoping ships would get 10x the detail (eg. getting hole exactly where projectile went) but they really skimped on that. I genuenly feel this game didn't need DE in the first place.

Noticed that too, there are still some destruction, but to a much lesser degree in DE. Although I'd like to point out that it might be done deliberately to decrease on-screen clutter. Notice how the graphic styles in DE seems to be less "cinematic", (see: 1:47) and how DE graphics looks crisper with less bloom effect. One thing I never really liked AoE3 for, was the lack of "contrast" of on-screen detail, as compared to the simplistic AoE2 design. For example, the fog of war blends in too easily, and I find it hard to tell where my LoS ended. Another thing is getting units lost on-screen. While it doesn't happen that often, I very much prefer the higher contrast of AoE2 units / buildings to the environment -- they just give a better RTS gameplay experience. So removing these clutters *might* have been done intentionally. That being said, I'm willing to bet there will be mods to restore (and maybe even amplify) the destruction effects.

@@ceremonious_houseplant I doubt there will be mods that will achieve that (and be compatible with online play at the same time). What I do hope, is that the devs will integrate the destruction physics back as an OPTIONAL feature, for those like me who seek it.

@@Gajaczek93 Yeah, this game didn't really need DE except for some Card changes like allowing all cards to be accessed at Level 1 in MP

feel some modder gonna fix that for some reason

I think the TAA is at fault here

@@Knorrkator You're correct. Eaglemut recently released a mod that disables TAA and the game looks much better.

@@mitoe0 pls where

the old graphics is way more modern than this de shit

if some one make custom textures the graphics of the old will rock

yea it looks like they've just added a ton of bloom which just makes everything muddy and simplified the graphic effects on stuff

I bought aoe3 on sale a while back but never played. I’ve been binging over the last week and only now at 30 hours I’m realising it’s not the definitive edition. After playing Warcraft 3 reforged I realised remakes / remasters aren’t needed for games we already loved! Sure, it’s a welcome addition if it’s a game we’ve never played, but for those games that hold nostalgic value, the originals are great. I’ll be refraining from buying DE. AoE 4 next week baby!

I'll be honest, I would watch anything sotl puts out.

Wow everyone asks about tree hp. Sounds so important

It’s what the fans want

I’m with @Raspootin, tree hp vid.

Villager: your free trial of living has expired, prepare to be chopped.

I pray it's sarcasm...

@@manupainkiller how is that sarcasm, its just true xd

When it's not zoomed in i dont even see the difference. Which means in game i never will. Huge question for me is whether they nerfed iro (whatever they are called now) and if spain's age 3 shipments got buffed to vanilla levels again

This happened to me and aoe2, i feel like the charm has been reduced

yeah, I dont like the cartoony art directions most games are going for nowadays but I can respect it

nirvana

yup thats right.

Bro they are making a remaster for it

I just played a few games in aoe3 with camera set in very far, some maps have higher elevation so there are times it does feel like you are close still

@@jayztar25 Yeah, like that snowy-map where the players start each on a mountain ridge, and there is a valley between them.

@@manupainkiller siberia

Yeah, I really didn't like the change. WTF?

That's not what nerfing means. It's a downgrade.

@@jakubSwaps you don't get it

@@leofwulf268 Aha, using non applicable words is definitely humour

@@jakubSwaps yet, visuals can be very important peripheral information, especially for more experienced players. At some point it becomes functional benefit

Same here. I see that a lot of people in the comments didn't like it, but one of my favorite aspects of the AoE3 look was how bright and sunny everything was. It gives the game a nice, cheerful atmosphere that I really enjoyed. They really dialled that back in the DE to the point that the game looks too dark and gloomy for my taste now (e.g. I much prefer 4:40 vs 4:45).

@@tibor29 this exactly!! DE looks so gloomy and for me it makes it harder to tell which unit is which. I liked AOE3 because it's easy to differentiate units.

@@tibor29 it's a different place...

The old graphics were more yellow and had more light in them. Also there was a tender fog in the AOR 3 Original that the DE doesn't have. Also in the DE the colors are darker. The blacks part of the draws and shadows are way deeper, so much that it feels not real. The colors of the players are very satudared in the DE so much to the point they feel artificial, but in the Original the colors of the players were a little paler almost like if they blended with the buildings themselves. Also the fact they added 3d grass is a massive downgrade instead of an upgrade, because when you get too far from the floor the grass disappear and when you get closer it appears back, bad animation there. Also the Tabs, Menus, mini map and key codes are harder. to play and less appealing in their presentation. I like more the original menu because it was like a rusty old wood table, instead of the new that is like a Excel MAtrix that feels off in this game really.

Same thing with aoe 1 de. Siege engines in that game feel weaker as well

@@zeroomega3781 At least they (the engines) project greater power, as seen through the building's destruction animations, in AoE 1 DE. In AoE 3 DE, buildings and ships fall straight into the ground like they multiplied the gravity by 100 times. They really fucked it up. Starcraft 2 is competitive as ever, and you don't see them disabling destruction physics and animations "for gameplay purposes". And I have yet to hear asians complain that "it ruins the competitive aspect of the game".

@@manupainkiller I still don't get why they replace the bolt that explodes on impact from a ballista with a... small crater. Feel so underwhelming.

when?

@@Amphok idk maybe in 2021

Yep, it's definitely meant for people playing in 4k.

Well the thing is, AOE3 had incredible shaders, I'd say it's safe to say there's no game out there that can compare with Shader Quality from 2005. That's what made it look so great, it made the game atmospheric and bright, vivid. So with DE they have improved on the shaders but there's only so much you can improve on something that's already good, where the game excels is the close-up details, as those are the only places where the new details can be properly seen. Everything is much higher poly and much more detailed, the textures are a higher resolution, the particle FX are all higher quality and now we have actual grass and foliage models rather than a muddied-up texture as seen at 1:50. The reason why the jump here isn't as prominent here as in AOE2 and AOE1 are because those two had no shaders whatsoever, no atmospheric value and the units weren't even polygonal characters, they were pixel-characters. So we went from no shaders and pixel-models to high-detail 3D models with HD Textures and Atmospheric Lighting and FX, that's why the difference was so prominent.

Yeah as an avid campaign player I'm happy I love the AOE 3 campaigns so much :p

yeah, I'm not missing much in terms of campaigns (unless they plan on actually adding proper ones via expansion)

I never understood why people play w/ a soundtrack it's the first setting I change when I first install the game. Just not my preference but to each their own! Cheers all and stay safe!

@@CraigH999 I played a huge chunk of my childhood of Age 2 without knowing it had music. Only started using the music during the HD edition, prefer it either ways. The first AoE though, I had music on, it was cheesy but fun mixed with the game's other sound effects.

the OST is kinda repetitive

You are right, the original game looks better. The colours in the DE version does not blend really well. You can see the Japanese town centre from the original one and the DE version, it just looks cartoony. They should have gone with darker tones in the game which would have made everything look nicer.

A lot of the new sound effects are garbage too

@@mehmetylmaz758 cartoony?? Aoe always was cartoony lol

The DE looks blurry in an odd way when zoomed out

@@gentlesirpancakebottoms6692 It might be the TAA implementation. I think there's a mod on the mod page that lets you toggle it on and off.

thats because it didnt really have "great graphics" it has great shaders, it has the graphics of warcraft 3 really xd

​@@comandantethorn9929 Shaders are a part of graphic though? Also, yeah, unit are quite cubic if you look at them close, but you never do so and buildings and ships are quide detailed. Also, 'for a RTS of his time'. Among the RTS of that year, you find Warhammer 40k Dawn of War: Winter Assault, Empire Earth II, Stronghold II and Cosac II: Napoleonic Wars. . Yes, you can say that in Dawn of War that the unit themselves are more detailed, but they are also closer and NEED to be more detailed, even more so because of the targeted customers. But just look at the units of Empire Earth 2: you can find unit whose arms arent even properly attached to the body, and most unit are even more cubic than that. Stronghold 2 doesn't have as mush details ont theirs units. As for Cosac II: Napoleonic Wars, I never played it but looking at the image, I'm not even sure it's 3D models. . Thus, I maintain my affirmation: for a 15 years old game, it HAS great graphic.

They could fix so many thing they didn't xD.... (IA pathfinding is as stupid as it was then also, you may still found situations where villagers are going all around to get to something that was right next to them)

wdym the graphics are absolutely 100% better, the original literally had the same texture level as warcraft 3, it only had really good shaders that make them look good, look at any specific unit and youll see te real difference

To be fair, he says fairly good. Ram has also lowered in price recently as well as being a necessity for video editing and the like. I'm more surprised the 2080 Super is considered only "fairly good". I'm sitting here trying to render on my 1060 lamo

It's funny people who aren't necessarily into hardware always notice the ram amount first. That's not meant to be a jab, I just see it a lot. RAM is really not that important for games and the 32GB isn't actually very telling about his PC anyway. He's got a really solid system in general either way.

Cries in 8 gb ram old laptop

@@seribelz 8 gb ram is enough for even moderate gaming. Graphics card is the main bottleneck in that.

I mean at this point 16 GB of RAM is rapidly becoming the new standard... It is weird though, we're at the point where 4GB Ram laptops are still commonly available but the high end is at 32gb. I guess his CPU is an 8 corer though... I'm an AMD guy so I don't keep track of the Intel/Nvidia side of things

wasn't that only in age of mythology ? Either way it was really cool.

@@longethdayv770 Nope. It was in AoE III as well, but it makes sense since it both runs on the same or almost the same engine.

I hope so but the original HUD had that but the minimized HUD from the option menu that many play now doesnt have that so idk

Yes, its still in the game :)

Yes, there's an encyclopedia in-game.

100% they didnt do it for performance issues

@@galliman123 it did lag a little in the original when you had big naval fights so it makes a little sense

Looks like a lot of people agree. I never quite understood having a sharp, crisp image and then willingly blurring it to shit with 16x anti-aliasing at a high cost to fps. Clarity for me was always preferable to cluttering the scene with as many polygons as you can, especially for strategy games.

@@excuseyou1526 precisely, well put!

It's different game

Now I'm instantly reminded of the "Mexico in Hollywood movies" meme

Bloom makes me vomit

True, bloom is crucaial part of the game atmosphere, but i can't find any complains on that besides your comment :( What's also bad is that bloom is in settings, but even if its enabled in options, game still has no bloom.

Its true. They seem rather blurry. The orginal ones are actually sharper-looking. But hey, high def makes that a thing.

@@oom-3262 i think its because of the ground texture that is much more detailed or something like that

Yeah, my guess is also on the ground. The detailed grass especially is very distracting for the eyes. It might be smart to turn down some of the graphic settings, at least when playing online.