I accidentally spoiled for myself that Gavin would be the "final boss" so the entire last case I just kept wondering what his stake in the Gramarye drama was. When I found out it was just that his pride had been snubbed, I was actually impressed. It's not only unconscionably petty and evil, it's...well, it's actually frighteningly realistic. I've worked with some attorneys IRL who are so prideful that I honestly think they'd let the world burn to ash before they'd admit they'd made the mistake that started the fire.
From what I've read, the writers watched countless trials before coming up with the story, too. And then people call these games out for being "unrealistic".
@@zad_rasera the rules and procedures of court are unrealistic here, though. However, the crimes and psychology are close to realism (although exaggerated at some times for humor's sake).
@@aikamatsunaga1678 While they are exaggerated to see extent, they are based on the real Japan legal system, which is less "innocent until proven guilty", and more "guilty until proven innocent", which is why Japan has (according to google) a 99% conviction rate. There's a handful of reasons for that, but overall...The bs power the game allows prosecutors to have isn't as exaggerated as I'd like it to be. (As in, it's really sad it's more accurate than not-)
Same I kept trying to link him to the Gramaryes somehow. I was like... maybe he knows about their power and wants to figure out how to harness it for himself or something but then the truth was revealed and I was like oh... that's it??? But I actually prefer the motive they went with ngl. He reminds me of Manfred von Karma bc of how extreme both of their revenge plots were vs how stupid and petty their initial motives for said revenge were. In the end they were just two really terrible people who took everything WAY too seriously for their own good.
I know I'm a bit late to this comment, but I agree with you 100%. I think people often overestimate just how arrogant people can be in real life, and just how powerful pride (the vice) is when it comes to warping a person's perception of what is good and then driving their subsequent actions. This is one of the reasons why I like Kristoph so much as a character--he embodies the true depths of ugliness that can lie within a person and forces us to confront it (even if we might not want to see it) Also, and this is completely unrelated, I noticed you have the word "Angband" in your username, and I wanted to ask: are you a Silmarillion fan, by any chance?
The first time I reached Gavin's focus sequence, I was persuaded the twitch would be in his eyes. It was weird to see his pupils through the glasses, it *had* to be for something. So I watched his murderous stare the whole time until I found nothing. Then I started watching his hands. It was terrifying. To a level that no other Ace Attorney has reached for me since.
Kristoph is easily smartest character in franchise they literally had to create an entirely new law and didn't tell him about its existence to convict him
The interesting thing is that at that point, pretty much everyone knew that he'd done some incredibly horrible shit, and they were just looking for a way to properly convict him. I always thought that the jurist system never showed up again because while this trial did get Kristoph convicted, the dark age of the law was still ongoing, and a "fair" system just couldn't survive.
I would say that Gant can possibly be able to reach that status as well. He had a whole authoritarian hold on the justice system for 2 whole years bc of his jovial facade and manipulation tactics like fabricating a crime scene to blackmail his own partner-in-crime's sister. Not to mention that he easily could've beaten Pheonix if Lana didn't give him what he needed + got rid of the missing items report since Goodman had to have given it to Gant.
@@Cy-Fi The funny thing is, it's people like Kristoph that convinced Gant to be the way he was, because the law couldn't put them away. I liked how this theme runs through most of the final cases.
@@Hadaron i' m aware he' s called the devil in universe. but if you are talking specifcially about his hand it looks more like skeleton, sunken eyes and cheek and teeth
About that, I saw once a headcanon that the Gavin family was involved with witchcraft (therefore, Kristoph himself), and that would explain the devil in his hand
In the original Japanese version Phoenix Wright is named Ryuichi Naruhodo. Naruhodo is Japanese for "I see" "I understand" or "indeed". So in the Japanese version of this Gavin's line would've sounded something along the lines of "So, everything was leading to this. Of course. Naruhodo (I see). Naruhodo (lawyer). Naruhodo! NAAAARUUUUHOOOODOOOOOOOO!!!!!!" Presumably with each syllable punctuated for emphasis and timed alongside each time his head tilts back.
@@adorluigi Guy is probably Japanese or some other Asian country, I know this because I would use Google Translate a lot before knowing English fluently.
Makes sense. Phoenix has Psyche Locks, Mia has the whole spirit medium thing, Apollo has his bracelet, Athena has the Mood Matrix, Gregory has Logic Chess (presumably, I don't think he plays with anyone in-game)... and Kristoph has telekinesis! Makes me wonder what magic Raymond Shields and Diego Armando had.
honestly his breakdown combined with telling the truth is just so spot on, the jurist system is the only way kristoph can actually be convicted, but if it doesn't sit right with you since both cases lacked evidence (well there was technically a circumstantial one to actually convict kristoph but it didn't count) -spoiler alert- you have the final part of deciding vera's fate, guilty or not guilty, nick got probably got tired of hearing "evidence is everything" from the prosecution so he made the this jurist system
@@TheBanishedWind Source that it's semi-canon? Phoenix says at the beginning of TGAA that being a lawyer runs in the family...and then the game starts.
@@David-ku9li Spin-offs tend to be either semi-canon or non-canon. Or do we treat the Layton crossover as canon? Either way, burden of proof is on if it IS canon.
@@TheBanishedWind "On if it is canon???" Why does it matter if it's canon or not? If someone talks about an event from TGAA are you gonna say "it never happened! why talk about it?" Get a life.
@@TheBanishedWind I can see why it never comes up again. It's a very very biased system that I'm surprised it went past planning stage in the gamedev meeting. In GAA they did see the case for themselves, but in AJ they were fed Phoenix's POV that might or might not be true
I thought about that and It makes sense. Athena’s locks broke properly because Phoenix was actually seeking out the truth locked behind them. Mix that in that Athena was willing to open them, too, and bam! She’s safe. Kristoph, though. Phoenix (and Apollo) tried but Kristoph wasn’t ever willing to cooperate. Phoenix had an alternative, though. He created the Jurist System to remind Kristoph he isn’t in control. The moment it hit Kristoph that he lost *again* to the man he tried destroying the life of for being so lucky, the locks broke… and so did his mind. Phoenix just didn’t care about trying the safe way. Kristoph was too much of an alien to try anymore. Idk. That’s just how I see it.
kristoph's breakdown is the only one that's actually felt chilling to me so far. so many others just kinda seemed like goofy fun accomplishments for winning the case, but this one was genuinely disturbing to watch as it happened
The way the artists contorted the human face into something so scary, especially coming from someone who usually looks so calm, is just fantastic. Matt Engarde's is one I can also apply this to.
The ending of Trials & Tribulations kind of comes close near the end of the case, though it does change very quickly when the twist reaches its conclusion.
@Zalkova Dude, how is he overrated ? Literally most of the fans do not like him because of his reasons. But there are intelligent people in real life who are so arrogant and insecure to the point they would actually do insane stuff to satisfy their ego
Kristoph, imo, was the most realistic and one of the best villains in AA. He “masked” himself to appear he could do no wrong, was truly prideful but deep down was a coward and possibly used by the devil himself due to the creepy looking “skull” that appeared upon his hand; a *true* narcissist. People like this do exist in the real world, so I say be careful who you *trust* or come across.
@@marioluigimario6413 ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-btO3LjqxdN8.html I believe we can hear his voice in another line except "Objection" too (his voice in this one sounds good for me). But yeah you are right, it doesn't sound like Koyasu sadly....
at least Klavier didn' t get the whole gallery gossiping about your brother ruins the entire family legacy( yes, that happened to someone else in AA franchise)
2:02 Ah yes, the side-effect of forcing Black Psyche-Locks to break - instead of them opening when memory returns (Pearl explains what Black Psyche-Locks are in "Dual Destinies")
Phoenix in AJ:"Apollo,you have to suspect your mentor Kristoph to find the truth." Phoenix in DD:"I don't understand…How Could you suspect your co-worker Athena?"
@@Mr.bluer9999FINALLY SOMEONE ELSE THAT REALIZES THIS the reason Apollo still doubted people he trusted dearly is because he'd been betrayed once before. if his first ever mentor could turn out to have committed horrible crimes, his coworker/friend(/crush if you ship that) could too, no matter how much he wishes it wasn't true
@@darkacadpresenceinblood And That's why i ship Justicykes more than Cykesquill (Some fandom promoted Blackquill And Athena are "The only lovers who cares and want to rescue each other",But I prefer them to be brother and sister)
@@Mr.bluer9999 i 100% agree, cykesquill is weird they have such a familial relationship to me... i ship her either with Apollo, Junie or Sasha although i'm not seriously invested in either ship for her tbh
Thing was, I believe he was going to use the forged evidence against his brother originally. Then when was replaced, used it to get back at Phoenix by manipulating his brother. All around a great guy don't you think?
Fucker went Super Saiyan and proved Pearl's point a year before Nick had the opportunity to ask her about it, regarding the breaking of black Psyche-Locks.
Okay this may or may not be my favorite breakdown from all the series (at least from the main ones) Kristoph almost turned to a super sayan after that breakdown lol 😂😂
Moral of the story is don’t fuck with Phoenix Wright. Seriously every final case villain does so and they get royally fucked. (Spoilers) In the first game Phoenix gets tased by von karma and what does Phoenix do? Get him convicted of murder. In rise from the ashes, gant threatens to end wrights career and instead gets his entire image ruined. Matt engarde used maya to try to screw Wright over but instead got an assassin who wants him dead instead. Dahlia basically made him feel like complete shit and Caused the tragedy that is case 3-5 and he alongside Mia got her to break into an excorscisim. Then in this game, he loses his law badge and waits 7 years just to ruin one dudes life.
I love in how in trials and tribulations, once dahlia is finished she screams “MIA FEY” and in Apollo Justice, Kristop screams “PHEONIX WRIGHT.” I always just thought that was pretty cool how they had the main antagonists scream their greatest enemy’s name at the end. Edit: I forgot about von Karma screaming “EDGEWORTH” at the end of AA1
What an awesome and incredibly written villain. Although just like the shark guy and godot for that matter, i hate how anticlimactic the final presses are
What do you mean Godot’s final press was anticlimactic? It was absolutely awesome what’s with Cornered 2001 making a return, Godot’s running blood and Mia’s spirit pointing with Phoenix. It’s one of the best moments in the series.
@@dunadan1995 the aesthetic, the case in general and godot's story were perfect, i agree. But i felt like the very final part was a little too easy, for me atl: hardly any questions and the ones that were present were kinda obvious like eg where godot hid the wound. But imo it was still pretty neat
My literal complaint was the music during the breakdown, it felt too cheery for me. Yeah, we finally got the main antagonist, but the music didn't make it feel satisfying. Some hyped up or a sad music could've given the "It's over now!" vibe or the "It's now over, you're done." vibe.
You know the most ironic thing... Gavin took away Phoenix Wright's badge using fake evidence. And now using fake evidence, Phoenix Wright took away Gavin's badge.
@@demy1393 he was found guilty of one murder. Without a motive no less. I'm not sure japanese laws but if it's anything like Yakuza, he could get parole.
@@Chaud31423 Well, I'm speak from what I see in AA games. Daliah, Manfred and the dude from SL-9 were all executed, and Blackquill was in death row. The others are never mencioned again, so death row is the only punishment for murder in AA I'm aware of
@@demy1393 Very minor AAI2 spoiler ahead: Sawhit wasn't executed and was training to become a pet groomer, so he most probably wasn't even serving life sentence.
As disturbing as it is, nothing beats the final breakdown in Dual Destinies. Its kind of got an advantage because its in 3D though, I'm sure if they did a Kristoph breakdown in a 3D game it would easily be the best in the series
I just noticed this, but when Gavin starts laughing, his sprite looks much better kempt. Like he cleaned himself up in-between frames. It's kinda funny.
I wonder if his last breakdown, while he was laughing, wasn't his black psyche-locks broken by the verdict. Seeing how twisted he is, I can't shake the idea that it's a litteral mental breakdown, and showing us the consequences.
OK so the breakdown is from a different case. My mind confsued the heck out of me when I saw it in the gallery and didnt remember him freaking out THAT mucj
I could picture a malignant narcissistic character subtly degrading everyone in court and, in spite of this, he/she would still go on with their insidious abuse on the claim that "decisive evidence" was not there. Also, this character could just distort whatever was being told him/her as harassment. It'd be a pain in the ass to deal with. Good thing they added Athena later, with her emotion-analyzing tools.
This game was such an interesting premise chock full of contrivances and plot holes and contradictions. From Kristoph's motives, to how Phoenix even got to head this new Jurist system as a hobo who lost his badge, to the entire Grimarye case, to even the conception of the MASON/Jurist thing with a biased jury member hand-picked at the end. But hey, at least Apollo was a great addition to Wright & Co.
He said he had some friends in prison, that’s why he had all his books and that fancy chair in his prison cell. They were probably able to get him decent clothes as well.
@@alishaanimations3058 The point of the game is to set up Apollo justice as a new main character and yet Phoenix Wright does everything for him and the only reason Apollo is there is because he is a lawyer and Phoenix is not.
@@professorlayman523 I'm just glad Apollo got to come into his own as a lawyer in the next game, even if he was still a bit short on spotlight. Granted, that was partially because he was investigating on his own...
Phoenix in AJ:"Apollo,you have to suspect your mentor Kristoph to find the truth." Phoenix in DD:"I don't understand…How Could you suspect your co-worker Athena?"
The y don’t play the pursuit theme here. They play the “telling the truth” theme. And that’s because the facts are finally being revealed. About this case. About Phoenix. About Kristoph. The world is finally told the truth about everything
