Apparently... "Anime is Objectively Terrible Now" 

I'll join you in cloud yelling, it's a good stress reliever-

And "literally" used to refer to something that is literal

Nowadays it feels more like a way to justify an opinion

@@Alorso_you’re onto something there

@@alfanscholz8663 People who misuse literally drive me figuratively insane.

Exactly! There is so much anime now. While we still get a lot of great shows we get way more bad ones which in return can ruin companies quality.

Isn't that true for every form of media out there though. I mean we are also getting more TV shows and cartoon compared to years ago. It's not a problem exclusive to anime only.

​@@matts5164Yeah and so many people forget that. As the days goes by companies tend to get greedy and not care about employees. Great things don't just appear suddenly , it's meticulously crafted first

And the thing is that these higher-ups dont' realize that most of their consumers aren't prompted to check their low quality products, anyways.

You’re not wrong but we have objectively better anime now than we did back in the 80s/90s, even if you withhold animation as a deciding factor. True there’s too much mid coming out every season but thanks to the sheer volume out now there are some shows that just come out of nowhere to become some of the best ever.

maybe in terms of popularity, but a lot of old anime still holds up Artstyle is subjective but actual quality can be seen in stuff like how often stuff is on model, the detail in the designs and backgrounds, effects have gotten better but there's far more still frames nowadays for stuff so they can save budget for bigger scenes while a lot of older anime had more character animation in even little scenes

Since the 60s maybe, but the quality now is similar to the quality in the 80s.

@@sdbzfan1 I find myself able rewatch older anime much more easily then newer ones and even my children enjoy older ones better as well, they don't have bias or nostalgia I have.

I think it depends on preference. I won’t deny that anime has come a long way, and there have been many quality shows in recent years, but I can’t help but love the old art style anime used to have (sharp edges, bleaker colors, etc.)

@@thomasffrench3639i don’t what anime u were watching in the 80s

Muh hyperrealistic Saber Marionette J

Agree : (((

I refuse to watch remakes of classics. I rather just watch originals. Remakes always seems to not understand what made original so great and why people loved them.

​@@aj.j5833eh, people loved Spice and Wolf for the story and characters and they're doing that just fine. The animation was never its big selling point

​@@Ash_Wen-li Animation and art direction helped sell the story and characters. When done right like music in shows, people don't notice it because it doing it job properly. They are supporting elements and help sell the story and characters. In new one animation is fighting the story and character. Also Holo doesn't even look like a wolf she looks like a Shiba Inu in the new one.

By sheer amount of anime that release per season...3 4 shows being good and 19 being mid is not a good sign.

It's really not getting worse. We have gotten more anime shows with mediocre production value/writing than people think anime is going downhill.

​@@aritrasaha441That is a matter of opinion people have different tastes and that influences their opinion. Primary example a large audience are overjoyed that there are new seasons of Konosuba, Mahouka and Mushoku Tensei I personally couldn't care less those three shows I just couldn't really get as invested in them as other people but I love Misfit of demon king academy.

We also had Apothecary Diaries, A Sign of Affection, My Happy Marriage, Grimm Variations, Shangri-La Frontier, Undead Unluck, so many good to great shows

@@aritrasaha441 How so? This is pretty normal. There's no medium where most stuff released is good and anime never was exception from that. People just remember only the good stuff. Spice and Wolf released in winter 2008/2009 season. Aside from it there were like two more good new shows released in that season and handful of good continued ones. Vast majority of released in that season were crap or mid.

Minus the strobe lights that show up during the sakuga bits.

yes

U won’t get that unless $$ and time

Holy shit I love that studio so much,I really can't imagine if they want to remake Megaman NT warrior in that animation

127%

unique sure (debatable actually) detailed??? nah

@@makimasupremacy9945 You definitely don't know anything about art and animation lmfao.

@@makimasupremacy9945 ya, their definitely just as much detail if not way more now than back then.

@lucienolongerhuman8298 I disagree to a point, i think there is just so much more anime that the very unique ones get passed by. If anything there is just as many unique ones as back then its just harder to find or they don't get the spot light because the 10000th isekai just came out lol.

No there is a considerable downgrade cause it’s all about consumption more than ever now. Peoples portions are all over the place like it’s really apparent in some anime.. like quality control was cut out to make it for deadlines

Anime shouldn’t have gone so mainstream now all the western companies will milk it.

Anime has been always underground and keeps it as it is, even they are mainstream now, just look the viberant doujin and manga light novel scene in japan they have been always strong and keep pushing further and always innovating, grassroots is always the right word

Also there are always studios who bring some anime to the spotlight even some b tier ones that are still good you have to find it

It’s weird because it is hard to produce a greater number of great shows when talent is spread thin.

Today we have like 200+ animes each year. In the 90s the number was not even 50. But back then you have the best animes ever. Monster, Cowboy Bebop, Akira. No we no longer have classics but we have a lot of good anime.

@@Javier-rm6ql they're classics because they're old

​@@Javier-rm6ql"We no longer have classics" Well that gets decided in the future. Not now. But it's harder for things to be regarded as classics because of sheer volume. I'm sure AoT, Demonslayer and JJK will be regarded as classics in 15 years (regardless of how you may feel about them)

@@Javier-rm6ql idk i think we have quite a few recent anime that can rival the classics in quality

I think this is the best take I've seen on the subject. Mood vs. action. I think that we've recenly (last 5 years) some amazingly animated action scenes that look better than almost everyhting from the 2000-2010 era. But on the other hand, the mood that old anime had (think 80s ciberpunk), I don't think has been matched.

the original spice and wolf was also also digital. The 2024 spice and wolf looks plastic like, kinda fake. The reason for this is that everything is done in 3d with a 2d layering. In 2008 it was just pure 2d digital animation. What the difference is between 2008 and 2024 is that 1080p was just starting out and we had jsut normal HD resolution of 720p. Also in 2024 HDR /4k lighting and the number of lumens on a screen are taken into account for video production. All colors are much more vibrant now in general. THE HDR technology and over saturation of colors with the advent of 2k and 4k has well...kinda changed the way we see colors. Also another reason for color shift palette to brighter colors was when Toei animation switched directors for One Piece Inpel Down arc. Toei is a studio that kinda likes to advertise for younger audiences. As anime becomes more and more "kid friendly" the color palettes become brighter. That's another thing if you notice. Brighter animation palettes also exist in shows for younger audiences. when anime tries to reach a "wider audience" the color palettes become brighter.

@@Haiyami I've done a few animations for college projects, but I've never got much into it. Great insight. But I was talking more about the palette used in 90's anime, it tends to be more muted because it has to be coloured using ink. It's done in CMYK instead of digital RGB

@@kamikaze5528 You are absolutely correct. Food for thought CMYK is more for printing. And RGB as a color palette that been around since the 1938 used in televisions. It was used in in computers in the 1970s as well. If you are talking about a color palettes from analogue to digital that would be the YPbPr which seperated gama frequencies and colors into two separate channels. This eventually lead to the digital standard of YCBCR. Interesting fact is RGB colors palette is definitely used for video usage. I remember in graphic design if I had to export something i did digitally on screen or was viewing on screen for print, I had to convert the color palette to CMYK. This was back in 2008 and still persists today in some cases. Similar when doing color matching for the screen. If you take something printed to be in a video, it had to have the CYMK colors converted to their RGB color tone equivalent. The Introduction of YPbPr HD during the analogue days and YCBCR for when television moved to full digital, completely changed the way color palettes are viewed on a screen. All in all it's very muddy. It's one of the large headaches I've noticed in color palette conversion as every digital monitor is different in gamma frequency, brightness and lumens settings while back in the day, most CRT tvs and monitors had the same setting. So color conversion was much easier. Sorry for the history lesson. I really geek out when I talk about this kind of stuff.

​@@kamikaze5528and older anime still did more hue shifting which modern anime has basically abandoned for some reason.

This is indeed true. However as far as art and animation goes, I will argue that the 2000s was the weakest period, at least after the 70s.

@@thomasffrench3639 What part of the 2000s exactly? Or you mean where the giant eye syndrome got to it's peak and characters looked like aliens?

@@NoahToledo-xo5pj I mean most anime from 2000-2009 looked really dull

​@@thomasffrench3639I agree. Personally it's my least favourite era in anime in terms of art style. A lot of anime looked kinda awkward too due to the transition to digital

And none of the people making the argument actually watch anything, ever.

Indeed : (((

That is exactly what I thought as well.

​@@aj.j5833Both are colored like a fox and don't look like anywhere near to a wolf to me even in the OG with the ear fluffs you mostly see that long eared foxes or desert types

@@pauloazuela8488 In original she least look like American Red Wolves or Coyote, that look like smaller wolves but red.

It does suck, to add finding anitubers who are more laid back and not a possible anti or tourist is a factor.

Yup. I'm watching more anime now than I did 10-15 years ago.

That’s not true tho. Use ur eyes objectively.. u will start to notice portions, faces, etc are not consistent like old anime. It feels like they are being rushed and there is no final quality control. Not all anime but a lot u can see now. Don’t look at style etc.. just look at porprotions, number of middle frames, etc.. I’ll see it.

This feels normal I remember people complaining about 2010s anime were 00s or 90s anime fans

To a guy who told me that anime now all sucks, I replied that 5 to 10 if not more episodes of different anime come out every day, does he watch them all to say that they suck? He never answered me again.

And that's just the very tippy tippy tip of the iceberg LOL

In teams of quality and quantity anime is way better now.. Just this season we have shows banger show like tensura, kaiju no 8, windbreaker mha and more Counting last three anime will be overkill even you compare it with likes of Hollywood.

Because in that time wolves were an actual threat and he's had to run for his life and see friends torn apart by wolves. So it's not surprising seeing a giant one would make him scared

you see a big fluffy bear and you think its adorable?

@@SirEggNog From a distance? Yeah. From the other side of a television screen? Yup. I am not dumb enough to enter their territory, but yeah, bears are cute. Most furry wildlife is adorable. People keep cats. Cats are psychopathic predatory murderers. They eat their babies if they think they will not survive. The only reason they do not kill their humans is because their humans provide them food and entertainment; and it is great to have a slave clean up your poop. They bite our hands; they scratch our faces; they barf in the most inconvenient places almost constantly; they attack us for no reason if we pass by them when they happen to be in a particularly sour mood. Before he died, mine had a tendency to slash at, not just my, but everyone in the house's Achilles tendon, guests included. And despite all that, we still keep cats as pets because we think they are cute.

remember that lawrence is just a merchant who has experienced wolf attacks before and seen people die from them. He isn't saitama who just one punches anything troublesome, of course he would be scared of a massive wolf, tbh I would probably be spooked too but it's a hard situation to imagine yourself in, having a girl turn into a mega wolf in front of you lol

That is a fitting view. I have watched anime most of my life but mainly since late 90s/early 2000s to now with breaks. Have dabbled into 90s and earlier anime, need to expand the list.

Not wrong.

True

Atmosphere? Madoka Magica is a good example of audiovisual atmosphere done right

​@@Kyouma. And Madoka is an anime original that structured itself on older magical girl stories with a focus on increasing the spectacle and subverting it. It's like comparing its quality amd circumstances to Edgerunners, it's an outlier.

I completely agree with you, I love the old version and I'm loving the new adaptation too, I have been comparing the episodes old and new with a friend, and as you said in this episode I think the old one did a better job with the shots and direction of the chase scene but in terms of animation is ridiculous to think the old one is better, in the new one they can make subtle movements that the old one couldn't (like Lawrence rubbing Holo's back when she gets hangover, in the old one he just puts his hand in her shoulder because they couldn't animate that kind of details) and that helps a lot in this type of story were a lot of the scenes are just the two of them talking, they also made very small changes to some of the dialogue that helps scenes have more tension and being less info dump and feel more natural for the characters talking even if the original didn't have a lot of those moments because it had good dialogue too. Both the old and the new one have things I like. I like the new version of the wolf form better, but I agree that the old one is scarier

​@@ana24cit funny that i agree with you to a certain point. Animation now is a bit more beautiful. But at the same time older Animation for me had a lot of me letting my imagination running wild. I didn't even realize he only put his hand on her when to me i pictured him rubbing her back. Evem before i read the source. Same with the censorship of one piece by 4Kids. I never saw someone pointing a finger or throwing a lollipop. In my child mind. In my imagination. I saw a gun because Pirates, i saw a cigarette because a lot of people I knew at the time smoked. I don't remember the censored stuff. And i didn't have the internet to bootleg shows. So when i saw old anime. My imagination added so much. And to me Lawrence always rubbed Holos back. I didn't realize he never did there.

@@JoseLopez-gi9sf Wow that's an interesting way of seeing things, it sounds great, like I said I love the old one, I saw it 11 years ago and I read the novels 6 years ago, when I first saw it I wasn't particularly looking at those types of details to be honest but I love animation and even if I don't have a job as an animator I studied animation so it's something that I notice , I think you're imagination is awesome but in the way I see it is that I think the animators of the original would have liked to animate more details but they didn't have the time and the money to do it, and now the new show have this opportunity, technology advanced and I think they have more money for the project, something that a lot of people confuse a lot or put in the same categories is style , one thing is style and the other is the animation, it happens also with lighting and direction. They say things like I don't like the animation, but they talk about the style the old one had a particular style from early 2000s and a lot of people prefer that style, I like it too and that is completely subjective and everyone is free to like the style of their choosing but I like this new style too, the only thing that I don't like about this new style and this goes for modern anime in general is that it all looks so polished and clean and it doesn't seem natural. I know that a lot of people say all anime now looks the same and in a sense they are kind of right, but it is because it is the style of the present day a lot of early 2000sanime shared a common style too and it is okay it is normal that this kind of things happens. Another thing that the style and times change the story is the tone, for example the scene with Holo joking with Lawrence about the "beard" and she makes a sign to signify whiskers, in the old one they show with pointed lines the whiskers and it gives a much more cartoonish type humor, if you see the new version is still funny because Holo is making fun of him but it is in a more realistic way and she uses her hands to make the whiskers, the old type of humor was more of it's time, and I'm waiting to see how are they going to adapt other types of scenes that uses that type of humor especially in Holo's tsundere moments. I'm sorry this is so long jaja XD

I think that a very personal thing as opposed to anime and anime culture itself. Also hate to be nitpicking, but Japanese pop culture is more than just anime and it’s adjacent mediums.

@@thomasffrench3639 Yeah, I agree with you there on that. I only mentioned a couple of the specifics

@@thomasffrench3639 Agree. If people ask younger folks who are still at school, a lot of them will find this to be the best era for anime.

@@matts5164 Well yeah, because it's the only stuff they watch.

​@@sinew1000 "I respect the taste of people who have the same tastes as me"

​@@sinew1000Character models are off a lot in the older version. I do prefer the art design and backgrounds there but the animation is better in the new one

@@sinew1000 That's like saying One Piece's art style has gotten worse as it went on.

id argue some of the panels look better in the new one. this is coming from someone thats never seen either versions of the shows. and ive only seen the few clips and images here the new one shows better understanding of focus. the older one seems to put equal detail everywhere which makes scenes have more information than needed basically what im trying to say is, shot composition is much better in the new one

Good POINT

Agreed

No it’s getting better ofc there’s gonna be bad anime coming out but movies are worst rn especially marvel movies

@@stillkountinAbigail and Civil War were pretty good tho

I can't believe the one guy who commented on this video saying anime is more like American cartoons now lmao.

@@ChibiReviews I'm with ya two as anime will always be amazing and exciting. Anime will aways get back up on its feet and improve. Anime is immortal and will always keep on showing how incredible its new series are no matter what not even Disney could stop it from being amazing.

Then I guess Berserk 2016 and Ex-Arm are Masterpiece

It was incomplete with cut content. Unfortunately a remake was the only way to continue the series

And then you'll have to jump back in for when they adapt the cut light novel for the last quarter of the season

The original cut a whole arc and changed some stuff around so you'll end up coming back to the new one anyways, besides it's not all that bad, my only real issue is the fact that they made holos wolf form so floofy but that's not really much of a big problem since the old one made her looks more like a raccoon crossed with a Disney style fox lol

As a guy who has watched the sub and dub of the first verison, It is a good idea to watch it. Then time continue with the new one, based on how its falling the light novel. Up to you in the end fallow. Now as for the light novel I started it later and have to time when to get volume 7 to 16, before the spring logs. Best regards and enjoyment of the 2000s Spice and Wolf along with the rest of 2024 and beyond.

Same. I don’t have nostalgia.. when I first watched horimiya, aopedal o thought those came out this year.. not 10 years ago.. then I watched new shoujo and the porprotions are insane and inconstient.. faces are pretty one frame hedious the next. There has been a huge dip u don’t need nostalgia.. and it has to do with the main audience is no longer, Japanese.. but western.. short deadlines, small budgets, a lot of outsourcing and no quality control.

You may have hit the nail on the head there.

The audience for anime has shifted as well. Now everything that isn't constant action is 'boring', even when they are building side characters and setting up future arc

@@rya1701 Like I said it's the Tiktok crowd that has zero attention span. The tiktok crowd is the demographic that consumes short term content. I hate it. I really do.

​@@rya1701 idk if it is just them the manga editors are the same way if the series doesn't grab you by the throat and don't let go then it gets cancelled

That it has, now its a matter of when not if there will be a downward trend. I have seen on one anime sight calling one anime slop, unsure how much anime of today is deemed as Slop. Next to how people view anime of the past is the best.

It gotten worse all the way down

Takeo Takahashi was the director for the original anime, and he returned to be chief director on the new adaptation.

This sucks bcz I wish there was more money more people more time and more creativity

To be precise , old anime do have production problems but modern there's more of it today that's why it's like that . But if we talk technology today is advance

@@pauloazuela8488 technology truly did push the boundaries, but sadly it also seems to be used as a crutch and not a creative solution.

"Back when the studio had more time to polish shit" Red Dead Redemption 2, God Of War PS4. The Modern Spiderman games, HiFi Rush, Elden Ring etc. totally are bad games. I'm not surprised to see a capital G gamer say this about both anime and gaming because anything modern is "bad" lmao. Get nostalga out of your ass. Because "back then" Ride To Hell: Retribution Sonic 06, and Superman 64 came out.

Saying modern remakes and new shows don't have as much as soul as older anime is just straight up bullshit. Just cos a remake does something differently, doesn't mean it has less soul. Off course it's completely different if the remake or adaptation of any manga/LN is just straight up trash.

@@anonisnoone6125 I believe one of the reasons is how people have watched remakes of movies, while anime remakes vary in quality. Am missing specific things, not sure which parts are in my view.

@@anonisnoone6125 Not all but some. As chibi showed the lighting for example can make a huge difference in atmosphere. Look up Kurapika scarlet eyes 1999 vs 2011 looks completely different due to the composition. I do think modern anime can do it right it just requires a bit more work especially because of digital output.

I remember that shit